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Title: The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, it's also evil.
Source: FreeRepbulic
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/754882/posts
Published: Sep 21, 2002
Author: Jim Robinson
Post Date: 2005-09-10 09:19:08 by Phaedrus
Keywords: Democrat, corrupt,, beyond
Views: 2289
Comments: 78

The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, [i]t's also evil.

And what is this evil that triumphs when good men do nothing? What are we really talking about here and is it worth fighting for? Is it worth turning our heads and allowing evil to continue on while we do nothing? (and I count voting for a third party candidate when knowing that he has absolutely no chance of defeating the Democrat, and worse, actually planning and hoping to knock out the Republican candidate who otherwise might have defeated the Democrat, as doing nothing).

Corruption is accepting campaign cash from the Chinese in exchange for military hardware. Corruption is accepting campaign cash as bribes from Indonesian power brokers, from Buddhist Monks, from corrupt corporate moguls. Corruption is defined by the myriad criminal acts and practices of the Clintons and the Gores and their corrupt Democrat minions.

Corruption is the land grabs, the power grabs, the gun grabs, the bribery, the shady deals, the high crimes and treason. Corruption is the theft of campaign dollars through forced labor union deductions. Corruption is the systematic indoctrination of several generations of our youth with socialist dogma via government school systems. Corruption is the removal of God from public life and substituting in the evil homosexual/feminist agenda and the destruction of moral society. Corruption is lying to the public about global warming and the selling of the Kyoto treaty. Corruption is giving up our national sovereignty to the United Nations. Corruption is the abuses of office, obstruction of justice, lying, perjury and subornation of perjury. Poster Comment:

"Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um and it too often takes the form of published lies, slurs and exaggerations. This current FreeRepublic repost by Jim Robinson is intended as a partial antidote reminding us that the Democrat alternative may be worse, although I do not share JimRob's "evil-Democrat" vehemence. He's right on the facts. I resigned FR a year and a half ago because JimRob would not allow exploration there of voting for a Democrat as way to straighten out the Republican Party and set the nation back on a path toward small-government conservatism. The two-party system is now, however, utterly beyond hope IMO ...

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#19. To: Phaedrus (#15)

When you don't have anything worthwhile to say, attack the poster ...

Stop acting like a whiney inflamed uterus.

Tull was just making an accurate observation.

You just confirmed his observation.

If you want respect here, stop talking like a dogmatic shill. We can see where you are coming from and that's why we treat you the way we do.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Phaedrus (#15)

Exactly.. " "Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um..."

A few weeks ago, we were a bunch of drooling Anti-Semites.. Now, we're all "Bush Bashers"

Make up your mind.

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Phaedrus (#18)

You're just beside yourself, aren't you Crack? Just can't stand it. LOL

Translation:

I don't have an answer to any of the seven posts above. They all hit home and so I need to distract the readers from this fact. Hence, I will conduct a personal attack against the poster and ignore the messages.

Pretty transparent.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: forester (#17)

Hey Richard, any chance of moving the Wrap to another site?

I was aware this post would inflame some here but I did not intend to trigger a move. I intended to add some balance. I can handle the ad hominem nonsense. It's best ignored, for the most part.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: forester (#17)

No, no, no.. Not so fast.

I'm sick of him coming on here with some ridiculous broad-brush accusation.

First we're all Anti-Semites because of what two or three posters put up, and now we're all "Bush Bashers" because Clinton was a corrupt prick.

It's tiring.. I'm sick of it.. Beating the Clinton horse and tossing labels around is his stock in trade.

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jhoffa_ (#20)

Would you care to comment about the facts or the article? I'm not the least bit interested in your views about me, for that's all they are.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Phaedrus (#18)

You're just beside yourself, aren't you Crack? Just can't stand it. LOL

Is that the best you can do? Take stupid cheap shots?

LOL!!!!! You must be a Republican.

Better stick with the herd and let Hannity do your talking for you. He already does your thinking for you.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Phaedrus (#0)

The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, [i]t's also evil.

And, after 4 1/2 years of Bush, you can seriously maintain that the Republican Party is not more corrupt and evil?

aristeides  posted on  2005-09-10   10:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Phaedrus (#24)

Would you care to comment about the facts or the article?

I made multiple serious comments and you came back with a cheap shot worthy of a nine year old. Nothing else.

Would you care to comment on my responses in an adult manner? Or would you rather continue your propaganda games?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Phaedrus (#24)

Sure: Fact, I'm sick of you asking tlike a whinely, inflamed uterus and pissing and moaning that we're all horrible somethings or other.

It happens allot..

I'm beginning to think you just like the attention.

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: aristeides (#26)

Bush Basher!

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: aristeides (#26)

And, after 4 1/2 years of Bush, you can seriously maintain that the Republican Party is not more corrupt and evil?

Yes, but I am out of patience with this "either/or" thinking. We're in the soup and it should be obvious to all that both parties are serving only themselves.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jhoffa_ (#28)

I think Phaedrus and his buddies are a little uncomfortable with the Brown matter. Bush appoints his incompetent friend to head his new disaster recovery program, they guy is unfit for the job and thousands die as a result. Bush must them fire the guy (admit to a mistake) in full view of the nation.

I don't think Phaedrus and his pals want us discussing this. I think they would prefer to have us arguing about Clinton right now.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jhoffa_ (#28)

I'm beginning to think you just like the attention.

I think it's a deliberate distraction. It's happening on other boards this morning too.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jhoffa_ (#28)

I could not care less what you're sick of. Grow up -- you've got serious maturity issues. End of discussion.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: crack monkey (#27)

Thank you, Crack. Over and out.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: crack monkey (#31)

Exactly.. Or slamming the Jews like the uncontrolable, anti-semitic collective Christine has allowed us to become through her lax moderation and lack of objectivity.

Oh look! Phaedrus is an independent now! Why do you suppose a non-partisan guy like that get so torqued off about "Bush Bashing"

?

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Phaedrus (#33)

LOL!

What's the matter? Surely you've got more names to call us..

Come on, you're just getting warmed up.

Concept idea for you: Maybe we can all be "Commies" next week.

?

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jhoffa_ (#28)

It happens allot..

I'm beginning to think you just like the attention.

What you have is a shill with an agenda. The agenda is to keep rational discussion of Bush off the board during this tough period. Notice how Phaedrus dodges all the rational responses to his position? Notice how every effort past the original post is directed towards inciting childish bickering? Read through the posts above and count how many factual and/or rational responses have been made to the original article. Now count how many factual replies Phaedrus has made - precisely zero.

If people are aguing about Clinton they are not discussing stuff that is extremely harmful to Bush.

Go over to POAC and take a look at this morning's Republican Talking points. Poac gets them. All discussion of Brown is to be discouraged.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Phaedrus (#34)

Thank you, Crack. Over and out.

Still no rational response huh?

Throwing - yet another - tantrum are we?

Maybe you need to change your tactics.

How can you be a successful shill if people think you are a laughing stock?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: crack monkey (#37)

Good point and I agree it's a possibility he's here to squelch discussion..

However, his actions may have a more strategic value.

I've seen a tactic like this before. Consider:

You get some flaming douchebag (No offense, Phaedrus) to come on and post something inciteful.. and to be reasonably polite. He does this over and over, trolling.

Now, before long the heterosexuals become upset over the repeat trolling and scold him.. All is well, right? Well here's the good part.

Then the polesmoking troll's friends (No offense, Phaedrus) start Pm'ing and decrying the lack of "civility" the "personal attacks" etc, etc, etc..

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Phaedrus, forester (#0)

Many here once posted on FreeRepublic.

Then we watched JR ban anyone who brought up a 3rd party around the 2000 election.

Then we watched him ban anyone who spoke out against what is passing for "free trade".

Then we watched him ban anyone who spoke out against this administration's open border policies.

(BTW, JR and his brother have a business in Mexico. They complained once about not being able to get enough labor because by their own explanation, all the Mexicans had gone north - a link was posted on LP).

Many of us left FR for LP. When Neil left, Goldi began banning people she disagreed with and allowing disruptive posters stay who agreed with her. There are/were many examples of how unevenly she moderated.

This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable.

It shouldn't, it has always been the right of every American to speak his or her mind about politics and the govt. "Bashing" the current administration has been going on FOR 200 YEARS and counting.

The "bashing" here is the result of analysis of the facts and current events. Except for Katrina, MSM and Congress are not doing this, so it is left to the alternative media to be more objective. This forum is not Fox News, to be sure.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2005-09-10   10:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jhoffa_ (#35)

Exactly.. Or slamming the Jews like the uncontrolable, anti-semitic collective Christine has allowed us to become through her lax moderation and lack of objectivity.

What?

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales  posted on  2005-09-10   10:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: robin (#40)

Encore! Encore!

The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-09-10   10:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: crack monkey (#31)

I think they would prefer to have us arguing about Clinton right now.

Right, which is stupid because everybody knows that all the problems we have now are the result of Jimmy Carter not nuking Iran back into the stone age when they took those hostages back in the 70s. Kill, kill, kill the towelheads!

IMPEACH JMMY CARTER! IT'S ALL HIS FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!

One...two...three...four...five...six...seven. Oswald was a fag.

Esso  posted on  2005-09-10   10:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wbales (#41)

Sarcasm...

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#40)

Good post, thanks.

One...two...three...four...five...six...seven. Oswald was a fag.

Esso  posted on  2005-09-10   10:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#42)

Thanks, I forgot to mention that I don't look at FR anymore so I'm not sure what they are up to. But I heard at the time, that Kristinn held a "support vigil" for "Jeff Gannon", who once posted there! I wonder if it was good for his more lucrative "part-time" business. Gannon/Guckert was "outed" to be a paid GOP shill (among other things). He may even have played a part in the outing of Plame/Wilson. His info, as one newswoman reported "was always golden". From whom did he get this 'golden' information?

Supporting someone like Gannon, is what FR has sunk to. If JR hadn't banned so many good people, I probably wouldn't even mind. It's a still a free country. But, JR clearly had a new agenda and purpose.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2005-09-10   10:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: robin (#40)

This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable.

Yes, exactly, and thanks. Great tag line BTW ...

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   11:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin (#40)

This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here.

Good post. I agree with you in principle, but the stories posted lately have been decidely leftist in my view. So much so that I have almost deleted 4UM from my favorites list twice in the last couple of days. It would be nice to see some stuff posted on the corruption of Louisiana State gov't, and how that made the disaster worse - instead it is FEMA/Bush ad nauseum.

That said, it is pretty cool to see a post of Tom Beardon's stuff, which I think would get one banned on FR.

forester  posted on  2005-09-10   11:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: robin (#40)

A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable.

Bravo Robin !

“kol Yisrael areivim zeh b’zeh"

Eoghan  posted on  2005-09-10   11:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Phaedrus (#0)

"Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um and it too often takes the form of published lies, slurs and exaggerations.

Bush deserves and has earned all the bashing and criticism he gets here. He's the biggest traitor to ever live in the White House.

This current FreeRepublic repost by Jim Robinson is intended as a partial antidote reminding us that the Democrat alternative may be worse, although I do not share JimRob's "evil-Democrat" vehemence. He's right on the facts.

Rimjob and his forum are nothing more than a wholly owned subsidiary of the GOP and the neocons. Quoting Rimjob is quoting treason, you might as well start quoting Benedict Arnold, at least he won the day at Saratoga.

I resigned FR a year and a half ago

Good for you, I resigned about 3 years ago.

The two-party system is now, however, utterly beyond hope IMO ...

That's the smartest thing to even come off your keyboard. Why don't you do what I do and start voting Libertarian? The Republican party cannot be fixed, but IMO neither can this country


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-09-10   11:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: robin (#46)

Supporting someone like Gannon, is what FR has sunk to.

No doubt. I took a lap through FR last night to see what they had to say about the firearm confiscations going on in N.O.

Nobody seemed to be too upset about it, some going as far as to call any remaining citizens criminals, who deserve what they get, because they won't abandon their homes and put themselves at the mercy of the government.

Free Republic? Yeah, right. It's funny what's passing for freedom these days, and it damn sure sure doesn't smell like freedom.

One...two...three...four...five...six...seven. Oswald was a fag.

Esso  posted on  2005-09-10   11:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Phaedrus (#22)

I did not intend to trigger a move. I intended to add some balance.

Balance is good, and sorely needed in the last few weeks.

forester  posted on  2005-09-10   11:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: forester (#52)

Balance is good, and sorely needed in the last few weeks.

In what way?

How about we post a slew of government lies, will that make you happy?


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-09-10   11:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Flintlock (#50)

Why don't you do what I do and start voting Libertarian? The Republican party cannot be fixed, but IMO neither can this country

Rothbard, in my view, is the best economic mind of the 20th Century (not to short Von Mises) but the Libertarian Party is so focused on ideological purity that their preferred "solutions", if implemented, would bury the economy more quickly than either the Democrats or Republicans can do (although they are striving mightily to do so). The offsetting factor is that the Libertarians would not be allowed to implement their agenda if, say, they were successful in electing a President. But I agree that the country has moved quite beyond 2-party politics and is headed for a brick wall. Both major parties are going to be a thing of the past in the not-too-distant future IMO ...

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   11:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Esso (#51)

Nobody seemed to be too upset about it, some going as far as to call any remaining citizens criminals, who deserve what they get, because they won't abandon their homes and put themselves at the mercy of the government.

Free Republic? Yeah, right. It's funny what's passing for freedom these days, and it damn sure sure doesn't smell like freedom.

From the 1st to the 2nd Amendment, hey why not? No it smells really fishy to me.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2005-09-10   11:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Phaedrus (#54)

the Libertarian Party is so focused on ideological purity that their preferred "solutions", if implemented, would bury the economy

No income tax, no WOD, no WOT and no gun laws would bury the economy? You're smoking the good stuff....maybe your already a Libertarian? Not every Libertarian supports every plank in the agenda but, overall a Libertarian government would be freedom from the tyranny we live under now.

Both major parties are going to be a thing of the past in the not-too-distant future IMO ...

And the difference between them is nothing more than lip service, so keep voting for the problem.

BTW What's going to replace them?


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-09-10   11:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Phaedrus (#54)

If that's what you really believe, I don't understand why you object to Bush-bashing.

aristeides  posted on  2005-09-10   11:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: forester (#48)

Thanks, I don't consider it forsaking principles to stand next to liberals at anti-war protests. That's the way I feel about posting articles by liberals right now. I may not agree with how they intend to change govt, but I can agree with them that this administration needs to go ASAP. It's the job of the opposition to bring out what is wrong with the current administration. That's how the two-party system should work. IMO, the two-party system is now broken; together, they are taking our nation down.

I don't agree with every idea on this forum. Usually I just ignore the posts I don't care for, sometimes I take a swing. And, this forum has a bozo filter and a category filter. It think these filters work fairly well.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2005-09-10   11:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Flintlock (#53)

How about we post a slew of government lies, will that make you happy?

I think that's what the problem is that's causing this latest nut-up. We have been posting the government's lies and exposing them for what they are.

The people of this country have become so feminized and pussified, that at the first sign of trouble, the first thing that 99.9% of the people do now is piss or shit themselves and throw themselves at the feet of the government begging for their "safety" at the expense of their rights. Cowardice, plain and simple.

Somebody needs to direct me to the part of the Constitution, BoR, or DoI that guarantees everybody's "safety".

One...two...three...four...five...six...seven. Oswald was a fag.

Esso  posted on  2005-09-10   11:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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