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Title: The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, it's also evil.
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URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/754882/posts
Published: Sep 21, 2002
Author: Jim Robinson
Post Date: 2005-09-10 09:19:08 by Phaedrus
Keywords: Democrat, corrupt,, beyond
Views: 2250
Comments: 78
The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, [i]t's also evil. And what is this evil that triumphs when good men do nothing? What are we really talking about here and is it worth fighting for? Is it worth turning our heads and allowing evil to continue on while we do nothing? (and I count voting for a third party candidate when knowing that he has absolutely no chance of defeating the Democrat, and worse, actually planning and hoping to knock out the Republican candidate who otherwise might have defeated the Democrat, as doing nothing). Corruption is accepting campaign cash from the Chinese in exchange for military hardware. Corruption is accepting campaign cash as bribes from Indonesian power brokers, from Buddhist Monks, from corrupt corporate moguls. Corruption is defined by the myriad criminal acts and practices of the Clintons and the Gores and their corrupt Democrat minions. Corruption is the land grabs, the power grabs, the gun grabs, the bribery, the shady deals, the high crimes and treason. Corruption is the theft of campaign dollars through forced labor union deductions. Corruption is the systematic indoctrination of several generations of our youth with socialist dogma via government school systems. Corruption is the removal of God from public life and substituting in the evil homosexual/feminist agenda and the destruction of moral society. Corruption is lying to the public about global warming and the selling of the Kyoto treaty. Corruption is giving up our national sovereignty to the United Nations. Corruption is the abuses of office, obstruction of justice, lying, perjury and subornation of perjury. Poster Comment: "Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um and it too often takes the form of published lies, slurs and exaggerations. This current FreeRepublic repost by Jim Robinson is intended as a partial antidote reminding us that the Democrat alternative may be worse, although I do not share JimRob's "evil-Democrat" vehemence. He's right on the facts. I resigned FR a year and a half ago because JimRob would not allow exploration there of voting for a Democrat as way to straighten out the Republican Party and set the nation back on a path toward small-government conservatism. The two-party system is now, however, utterly beyond hope IMO ...
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#38. To: Phaedrus (#34)
Still no rational response huh? Throwing - yet another - tantrum are we? Maybe you need to change your tactics. How can you be a successful shill if people think you are a laughing stock?
Good point and I agree it's a possibility he's here to squelch discussion.. However, his actions may have a more strategic value. I've seen a tactic like this before. Consider: You get some flaming douchebag (No offense, Phaedrus) to come on and post something inciteful.. and to be reasonably polite. He does this over and over, trolling. Now, before long the heterosexuals become upset over the repeat trolling and scold him.. All is well, right? Well here's the good part. Then the polesmoking troll's friends (No offense, Phaedrus) start Pm'ing and decrying the lack of "civility" the "personal attacks" etc, etc, etc..
Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.
Many here once posted on FreeRepublic. Then we watched JR ban anyone who brought up a 3rd party around the 2000 election. Then we watched him ban anyone who spoke out against what is passing for "free trade". Then we watched him ban anyone who spoke out against this administration's open border policies. (BTW, JR and his brother have a business in Mexico. They complained once about not being able to get enough labor because by their own explanation, all the Mexicans had gone north - a link was posted on LP). Many of us left FR for LP. When Neil left, Goldi began banning people she disagreed with and allowing disruptive posters stay who agreed with her. There are/were many examples of how unevenly she moderated. This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable. It shouldn't, it has always been the right of every American to speak his or her mind about politics and the govt. "Bashing" the current administration has been going on FOR 200 YEARS and counting. The "bashing" here is the result of analysis of the facts and current events. Except for Katrina, MSM and Congress are not doing this, so it is left to the alternative media to be more objective. This forum is not Fox News, to be sure.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
What?
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
Encore! Encore!
The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up
Right, which is stupid because everybody knows that all the problems we have now are the result of Jimmy Carter not nuking Iran back into the stone age when they took those hostages back in the 70s. Kill, kill, kill the towelheads! IMPEACH JMMY CARTER! IT'S ALL HIS FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!
Sarcasm...
Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.
Good post, thanks.
Thanks, I forgot to mention that I don't look at FR anymore so I'm not sure what they are up to. But I heard at the time, that Kristinn held a "support vigil" for "Jeff Gannon", who once posted there! I wonder if it was good for his more lucrative "part-time" business. Gannon/Guckert was "outed" to be a paid GOP shill (among other things). He may even have played a part in the outing of Plame/Wilson. His info, as one newswoman reported "was always golden". From whom did he get this 'golden' information? Supporting someone like Gannon, is what FR has sunk to. If JR hadn't banned so many good people, I probably wouldn't even mind. It's a still a free country. But, JR clearly had a new agenda and purpose.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Yes, exactly, and thanks. Great tag line BTW ...
Good post. I agree with you in principle, but the stories posted lately have been decidely leftist in my view. So much so that I have almost deleted 4UM from my favorites list twice in the last couple of days. It would be nice to see some stuff posted on the corruption of Louisiana State gov't, and how that made the disaster worse - instead it is FEMA/Bush ad nauseum. That said, it is pretty cool to see a post of Tom Beardon's stuff, which I think would get one banned on FR.
Bravo Robin !
"Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um and it too often takes the form of published lies, slurs and exaggerations. Bush deserves and has earned all the bashing and criticism he gets here. He's the biggest traitor to ever live in the White House. Rimjob and his forum are nothing more than a wholly owned subsidiary of the GOP and the neocons. Quoting Rimjob is quoting treason, you might as well start quoting Benedict Arnold, at least he won the day at Saratoga. Good for you, I resigned about 3 years ago. That's the smartest thing to even come off your keyboard. Why don't you do what I do and start voting Libertarian? The Republican party cannot be fixed, but IMO neither can this country
No doubt. I took a lap through FR last night to see what they had to say about the firearm confiscations going on in N.O. Nobody seemed to be too upset about it, some going as far as to call any remaining citizens criminals, who deserve what they get, because they won't abandon their homes and put themselves at the mercy of the government. Free Republic? Yeah, right. It's funny what's passing for freedom these days, and it damn sure sure doesn't smell like freedom.
Balance is good, and sorely needed in the last few weeks.
In what way? How about we post a slew of government lies, will that make you happy?
Rothbard, in my view, is the best economic mind of the 20th Century (not to short Von Mises) but the Libertarian Party is so focused on ideological purity that their preferred "solutions", if implemented, would bury the economy more quickly than either the Democrats or Republicans can do (although they are striving mightily to do so). The offsetting factor is that the Libertarians would not be allowed to implement their agenda if, say, they were successful in electing a President. But I agree that the country has moved quite beyond 2-party politics and is headed for a brick wall. Both major parties are going to be a thing of the past in the not-too-distant future IMO ...
Free Republic? Yeah, right. It's funny what's passing for freedom these days, and it damn sure sure doesn't smell like freedom. From the 1st to the 2nd Amendment, hey why not? No it smells really fishy to me.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
No income tax, no WOD, no WOT and no gun laws would bury the economy? You're smoking the good stuff....maybe your already a Libertarian? Not every Libertarian supports every plank in the agenda but, overall a Libertarian government would be freedom from the tyranny we live under now. And the difference between them is nothing more than lip service, so keep voting for the problem. BTW What's going to replace them?
If that's what you really believe, I don't understand why you object to Bush-bashing.
Thanks, I don't consider it forsaking principles to stand next to liberals at anti-war protests. That's the way I feel about posting articles by liberals right now. I may not agree with how they intend to change govt, but I can agree with them that this administration needs to go ASAP. It's the job of the opposition to bring out what is wrong with the current administration. That's how the two-party system should work. IMO, the two-party system is now broken; together, they are taking our nation down. I don't agree with every idea on this forum. Usually I just ignore the posts I don't care for, sometimes I take a swing. And, this forum has a bozo filter and a category filter. It think these filters work fairly well.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
I think that's what the problem is that's causing this latest nut-up. We have been posting the government's lies and exposing them for what they are. The people of this country have become so feminized and pussified, that at the first sign of trouble, the first thing that 99.9% of the people do now is piss or shit themselves and throw themselves at the feet of the government begging for their "safety" at the expense of their rights. Cowardice, plain and simple. Somebody needs to direct me to the part of the Constitution, BoR, or DoI that guarantees everybody's "safety".
Good question, but it ain't gonna be pretty IMO and maybe not right away. But if I saw the future clearly, would I be posting here?
The anti-Bush tirades filled with emotional falsehoods only mislead. Venting is seldom informative and, if believed, can lead one to think that the Democrats offer a viable, positive alternative. They don't. But if Bush must be bashed (you know I'm not a fan), Ron Paul does it better.
Bump..
Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.
I agree completely. BTW You should visit Canada if you want to see a bunch of emotionally arrested middle aged children. That's what socialism does to you after a generation or two. It doesn't, ultimately you've got to be able to take care of yourself and assume responsibility for your actions. In the old days, they called that being a man.
Well, I would applaud any contributions anyone can make to prove and correct any falsehoods. Venting may not be informative, but it nice to have a place that allows for some. Also, I would be happy to read about viable alternative solutions to socialism or corporate fascism or whatever it is we may be facing.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
It's interesting to me that otherwise sound-thinking self determined people fall into the trap of separation through the means of the most effective psychological means of preventing unity, and that is dichotomy- Dems/ republicans, liberals/ conservatives, male/ female, white/ black, straight/ homo, rich/ poor, christian/ muslim and so on. These are tools that tyrants over the ages have used to cement hatred and discontent, serving to disempower those who desire to seek change by distracting from the more valid core arguments. When will we realize that we will never attain Freedom by focusing on the artificial dichotomy presented to us as our only choices? The Truth, as some know, is that virtually all political, religious and commercial enterprises are corrupt beyond repair. In this context arguing about whether the dems or repubs are to blame is a fruitless exercise of certain frustration. The outcome will always be the same... separation. Without unity there will be no revolution, no solution, just more of the same insane march to destruction that now seems unavoidable. Yes, the democrats are to blame; yes, the republicans are to blame. But after all, are they not fruits from the same tree? They nurture from the same roots, and derive their authority from a common agenda. They thrive as no less than parasites while we are slowly sucked dry of the last bit of honor, decency and self-determination that we have left. There's good people and there's bad people in all walks of Life. It's a shame we sometimes cannot tell the difference. And it's a damn shame when we ignore the Truth.
Well said.
Very well said.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
That is also a dichotomy we must deal with. I agree with eveerything you said, just wanted to point that out. I don't know that anyone is completely good, although there are without a doubt some that are intolerably bad. The two parties are the same because they are both chasing money. Find out who's putting up the money and you'll find out why a politician cares about an issue.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S. Burroughs
Unless of course you are Phaedrus, Hannity, Fox News, Limbaugh, Free Republic, Karl Rove, the RNC, Michael Savage, Britt Hume, Anne Coulter, Tom Delay or an AM Clear Channel station. In this case all of the evils in the world can be traced to this mythical class of strawmen known as "liburals". A conspiracy of vast power and scope who really do want to destroy America for some unstated reason.
Oh come on Crack, you mean a 180 degree opposite POV contains nothing of the same??? It's a hard debate when one sides evidence or links are always the word of God and any dissention is "paid shill", "bot", etc...
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Hell, Ron Paul is one too, does that make him lame? The labels become increasingly irrelevant. We had a woman run for congress against that witch Tauscher a cycle or two back as a Libertarian, a "Libertarian" who wanted to force employers to hire temp labor as permanent after 6 months among other things. The funniest part about it was that, if she was a true Libertarian and had thrown a bit of advertising and education into the mix, she might have won, she took 27% as it was and there was no Republican opponent.
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What the hell is a guy pushing a damn desk going to do anyway? All his job involves is telling the underlings to get the job fucking done regardless and that he'll take any heat they generate. In our current state, it is antithetical to have anyone in a superior position that does this. ALL of the bureaucrats stay in CYA mode constantly and as a result, any D or R appointed to a high level position is going to jack off when faced with making decisions and getting shit done.
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IMO, the problems with Libertarians is that they don't adopt the incrementalism that Socialists and Communists have always used to such good effect. As an aside, I don't count the Libertarian I mentioned in the post to Crack Monkey as trying to do this, because she was inserting socialist ideology in her platform. I'm talking dropping things like drug legalization and open borders from the platform until the country can be stabilized to the point that at such time they can be explored. A particular instance is the open borders issue, right now as it stands that is national suicide, but if we had a period of assimilation (NO immigration) and followed it with a policy of 0 aid to immigrants, the ones to follow would all be the type we actually want, hard workers who don't leech off the system...
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The boot on ones neck while the boot owner takes one of those little zip tie thingys off his belt to tie around ones wrists...
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JimRob is a thief, running a scam.
Didn't, don't know why ... Check your setup settings. You have the option to hide/show the poster comment box.
"Louisiana is a city that is largely underwater" -- Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security
Thanks.
You are right of course. They may sound different, but both are just branches of a larger corrupt criminal organization. Like the power changing from one hand to the other and back again. Richard W.
Thank you, Crack. Over and out.
#39. To: crack monkey (#37)
What you have is a shill with an agenda. The agenda is to keep rational discussion of Bush off the board during this tough period. Notice how Phaedrus dodges all the rational responses to his position? Notice how every effort past the original post is directed towards inciting childish bickering? Read through the posts above and count how many factual and/or rational responses have been made to the original article. Now count how many factual replies Phaedrus has made..
#40. To: Phaedrus, forester (#0)
#41. To: Jhoffa_ (#35)
Exactly.. Or slamming the Jews like the uncontrolable, anti-semitic collective Christine has allowed us to become through her lax moderation and lack of objectivity.
#42. To: robin (#40)
#43. To: crack monkey (#31)
I think they would prefer to have us arguing about Clinton right now.
#44. To: wbales (#41)
Exactly.. Or slamming the Jews like the uncontrolable, anti-semitic collective Christine has allowed us to become through her lax moderation and lack of objectivity.
#45. To: robin (#40)
#46. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#42)
#47. To: robin (#40)
This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable.
#48. To: robin (#40)
This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here.
#49. To: robin (#40)
A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable.
“kol Yisrael areivim zeh b’zeh"
#50. To: Phaedrus (#0)
This current FreeRepublic repost by Jim Robinson is intended as a partial antidote reminding us that the Democrat alternative may be worse, although I do not share JimRob's "evil-Democrat" vehemence. He's right on the facts.
I resigned FR a year and a half ago
The two-party system is now, however, utterly beyond hope IMO ...
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#51. To: robin (#46)
Supporting someone like Gannon, is what FR has sunk to.
#52. To: Phaedrus (#22)
I did not intend to trigger a move. I intended to add some balance.
#53. To: forester (#52)
Balance is good, and sorely needed in the last few weeks.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#54. To: Flintlock (#50)
Why don't you do what I do and start voting Libertarian? The Republican party cannot be fixed, but IMO neither can this country
#55. To: Esso (#51)
Nobody seemed to be too upset about it, some going as far as to call any remaining citizens criminals, who deserve what they get, because they won't abandon their homes and put themselves at the mercy of the government.
#56. To: Phaedrus (#54)
the Libertarian Party is so focused on ideological purity that their preferred "solutions", if implemented, would bury the economy
Both major parties are going to be a thing of the past in the not-too-distant future IMO ...
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#57. To: Phaedrus (#54)
#58. To: forester (#48)
#59. To: Flintlock (#53)
How about we post a slew of government lies, will that make you happy?
#60. To: Flintlock (#56)
BTW What's going to replace them?
#61. To: aristeides (#57)
If that's what you really believe, I don't understand why you object to Bush-bashing.
#62. To: aristeides, Phaedrus, Crack Monkey (#57)
#63. To: Esso (#59)
The people of this country have become so feminized and pussified, that at the first sign of trouble, the first thing that 99.9% of the people do now is piss or shit themselves
Somebody needs to direct me to the part of the Constitution, BoR, or DoI that guarantees everybody's "safety".
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#64. To: Phaedrus (#61)
The anti-Bush tirades filled with emotional falsehoods only mislead. Venting is seldom informative and, if believed, can lead one to think that the Democrats offer a viable, positive alternative. They don't. But if Bush must be bashed (you know I'm not a fan), Ron Paul does it better.
#65. To: Phaedrus (#0)
#66. To: lightmind (#65)
#67. To: lightmind (#65)
#68. To: lightmind (#65)
There's good people and there's bad people in all walks of Life.
#69. To: lightmind (#65)
In this context arguing about whether the dems or repubs are to blame is a fruitless exercise of certain frustration.
#70. To: crack monkey (#19)
If you want respect here, stop talking like a dogmatic shill.
#71. To: crack monkey (#25)
LOL!!!!! You must be a Republican.
#72. To: crack monkey (#31)
I think Phaedrus and his buddies are a little uncomfortable with the Brown matter.
#73. To: Phaedrus, Flintlock (#54)
#74. To: Flintlock (#56)
BTW What's going to replace them?
#75. To: Phaedrus (#13)
JimRob is sincere but he's fallen into zealotry.
#76. To: Phaedrus (#4)
The "Poster Comment" should have appeared as a separate paragraph below:
#77. To: PnbC (#76)
#78. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#6)
IMO, BOTH parties are not worth a pot to piss in.
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