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Title: The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, it's also evil.
Source: FreeRepbulic
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/754882/posts
Published: Sep 21, 2002
Author: Jim Robinson
Post Date: 2005-09-10 09:19:08 by Phaedrus
Keywords: Democrat, corrupt,, beyond
Views: 2541
Comments: 78

The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, [i]t's also evil.

And what is this evil that triumphs when good men do nothing? What are we really talking about here and is it worth fighting for? Is it worth turning our heads and allowing evil to continue on while we do nothing? (and I count voting for a third party candidate when knowing that he has absolutely no chance of defeating the Democrat, and worse, actually planning and hoping to knock out the Republican candidate who otherwise might have defeated the Democrat, as doing nothing).

Corruption is accepting campaign cash from the Chinese in exchange for military hardware. Corruption is accepting campaign cash as bribes from Indonesian power brokers, from Buddhist Monks, from corrupt corporate moguls. Corruption is defined by the myriad criminal acts and practices of the Clintons and the Gores and their corrupt Democrat minions.

Corruption is the land grabs, the power grabs, the gun grabs, the bribery, the shady deals, the high crimes and treason. Corruption is the theft of campaign dollars through forced labor union deductions. Corruption is the systematic indoctrination of several generations of our youth with socialist dogma via government school systems. Corruption is the removal of God from public life and substituting in the evil homosexual/feminist agenda and the destruction of moral society. Corruption is lying to the public about global warming and the selling of the Kyoto treaty. Corruption is giving up our national sovereignty to the United Nations. Corruption is the abuses of office, obstruction of justice, lying, perjury and subornation of perjury. Poster Comment:

"Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um and it too often takes the form of published lies, slurs and exaggerations. This current FreeRepublic repost by Jim Robinson is intended as a partial antidote reminding us that the Democrat alternative may be worse, although I do not share JimRob's "evil-Democrat" vehemence. He's right on the facts. I resigned FR a year and a half ago because JimRob would not allow exploration there of voting for a Democrat as way to straighten out the Republican Party and set the nation back on a path toward small-government conservatism. The two-party system is now, however, utterly beyond hope IMO ...

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#1. To: Phaedrus (#0)

IMHO the country was in better shape after 8 years of Clinton than it is now after 5 years of Bush.

I might add that the problems that we are now facing, i.e., the war, the upcoming consumer debt crises, the loss of liberty due to the patriot act, the destruction of our emergency management forces, the outsourcing of jobs, etc. All seem to be a direct result of Bush's policies.

Your Freeper chant of "Democrats are doing unspecified evil things to the country" rings a little hollow in these circumstances.

Personally, I would trade the world of 1998 for the current day in a second.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   9:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you really want to shill for Bush by using vague, non-specific smears, why don't you publish a screed saying that Hillary Clinton caused hurricane Katrina with her HAARP ray?

You could fool some of the goobers with this and it least it would be funny.

The NRO style unsupported ramblings you published above are just tedious.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   9:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You might check into why the silent majority of this country don't like Bush. The 65% of the country that has now turned their backs on Bush, a good portion of this being the educated and well informed portion of the population, might just have a point.

Remember, Rush and Hannity don't have your best interests at heart when they are filling your head up with their garbage. They work for Bush and his corporate elite buddies. Things go best for this group when they can get goobers like you to buy into their bullshit.

The last thing that your information sources want is for you to get the whole story - you wouldn't shill for them if you had this.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   9:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The "Poster Comment" should have appeared as a separate paragraph below:

Didn't, don't know why ...

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   9:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you've got to be kidding. bush deserves all he gets here and more, imo. jimrob is just trying to cover bush's a$$. he's nothing but a [paid] shill for the GOP. his kneepads must be wearing thin about now. at least with the dems, they're upfront about their socialist agenda.

"You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here."~~New Orleaner

christine  posted on  2005-09-10   9:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

IMO, BOTH parties are not worth a pot to piss in.

The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-09-10   10:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

IMO, BOTH parties are not worth a pot to piss in.

Yes they are, and that's about all.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-09-10   10:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

... the gun grabs ....

Are you implying that Clinton behaved like Bush in New Orleans? Did Clinton send troops house to house to collect guns from citizens like Bush is doing as we speak?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you ever get the impression that Phaluseris is just sort of a whiney, inflamed uterus who doesn't belong on political forums, and would probably be more comfortable wrapped in cotton, sitting a shelf someplace?

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Corruption is the systematic indoctrination of several generations of our youth with socialist dogma via government school systems.

Here I assume you're speaking of the propaganda put out by Fox News, Hannity, Rush, Newsmax, the Washington Times, the Clear Channel Radio network and the rest of Ailes' sleazy tabloid publications.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

... the high crimes and treason ...

I assume you prefer a President who lies about the reasons for war over one who lies about an affair with an intern.

By the way, what's going on with the Plame matter these days? I assume that the RNC is as outraged over this Federal Crime as it was over the silly BJ.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Corruption is the removal of God from public life and substituting in the evil homosexual/feminist agenda and the destruction of moral society.

What's up with Jeff Gannon and Mary Cheney these days? Are the Bush twins sitll getting drunk and doing the butt dance for the crowd over in Georgetown?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

jimrob is just trying to cover bush's a$$.

Why would he do that? No, JimRob is sincere but he's fallen into zealotry.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Corruption is lying to the public about global warming and the selling of the Kyoto treaty

I think corruption is putting an incompetent buddy like Brownie in charge of disaster recovery when you know there is an enhanced danger of high category hurricanes.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you ever get the impression that Pha[edrus] ...

When you don't have anything worthwhile to say, attack the poster ...

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why would he do that?

Because he gets paid very well to do that.

He also gets invited to nice parties and gets to meet important people. All the perks that are normally doled out to immoral shills by the Bush team.

Why would you even ask a silly question like this?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um

I have noticed that. I see you are now being personally attacked. Hey Richard, any chance of moving the Wrap to another site?

forester  posted on  2005-09-10   10:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're just beside yourself, aren't you Crack? Just can't stand it. LOL

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When you don't have anything worthwhile to say, attack the poster ...

Stop acting like a whiney inflamed uterus.

Tull was just making an accurate observation.

You just confirmed his observation.

If you want respect here, stop talking like a dogmatic shill. We can see where you are coming from and that's why we treat you the way we do.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When you don't have anything worthwhile to say, attack the poster ...

Exactly.. " "Bush Bashing" seems to be the daily sport of choice here on 4um..."

A few weeks ago, we were a bunch of drooling Anti-Semites.. Now, we're all "Bush Bashers"

Make up your mind.

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're just beside yourself, aren't you Crack? Just can't stand it. LOL

Translation:

I don't have an answer to any of the seven posts above. They all hit home and so I need to distract the readers from this fact. Hence, I will conduct a personal attack against the poster and ignore the messages.

Pretty transparent.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hey Richard, any chance of moving the Wrap to another site?

I was aware this post would inflame some here but I did not intend to trigger a move. I intended to add some balance. I can handle the ad hominem nonsense. It's best ignored, for the most part.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have noticed that. I see you are now being personally attacked.

No, no, no.. Not so fast.

I'm sick of him coming on here with some ridiculous broad-brush accusation.

First we're all Anti-Semites because of what two or three posters put up, and now we're all "Bush Bashers" because Clinton was a corrupt prick.

It's tiring.. I'm sick of it.. Beating the Clinton horse and tossing labels around is his stock in trade.

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Would you care to comment about the facts or the article? I'm not the least bit interested in your views about me, for that's all they are.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're just beside yourself, aren't you Crack? Just can't stand it. LOL

Is that the best you can do? Take stupid cheap shots?

LOL!!!!! You must be a Republican.

Better stick with the herd and let Hannity do your talking for you. He already does your thinking for you.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Democrat Party is beyond corrupt, [i]t's also evil.

And, after 4 1/2 years of Bush, you can seriously maintain that the Republican Party is not more corrupt and evil?

aristeides  posted on  2005-09-10   10:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Would you care to comment about the facts or the article?

I made multiple serious comments and you came back with a cheap shot worthy of a nine year old. Nothing else.

Would you care to comment on my responses in an adult manner? Or would you rather continue your propaganda games?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Would you care to comment about the facts or the article? I'm not the least bit interested in your views about me, for that's all they are.

Sure: Fact, I'm sick of you asking tlike a whinely, inflamed uterus and pissing and moaning that we're all horrible somethings or other.

It happens allot..

I'm beginning to think you just like the attention.

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bush Basher!

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And, after 4 1/2 years of Bush, you can seriously maintain that the Republican Party is not more corrupt and evil?

Yes, but I am out of patience with this "either/or" thinking. We're in the soup and it should be obvious to all that both parties are serving only themselves.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think Phaedrus and his buddies are a little uncomfortable with the Brown matter. Bush appoints his incompetent friend to head his new disaster recovery program, they guy is unfit for the job and thousands die as a result. Bush must them fire the guy (admit to a mistake) in full view of the nation.

I don't think Phaedrus and his pals want us discussing this. I think they would prefer to have us arguing about Clinton right now.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm beginning to think you just like the attention.

I think it's a deliberate distraction. It's happening on other boards this morning too.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I could not care less what you're sick of. Grow up -- you've got serious maturity issues. End of discussion.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you, Crack. Over and out.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-09-10   10:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't think Phaedrus and his pals want us discussing this. I think they would prefer to have us arguing about Clinton right now.

Exactly.. Or slamming the Jews like the uncontrolable, anti-semitic collective Christine has allowed us to become through her lax moderation and lack of objectivity.

Yes, but I am out of patience with this "either/or" thinking. We're in the soup and it should be obvious to all that both parties are serving only themselves.

Oh look! Phaedrus is an independent now! Why do you suppose a non-partisan guy like that get so torqued off about "Bush Bashing"

?

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I could not care less what you're sick of. Grow up --

LOL!

What's the matter? Surely you've got more names to call us..

Come on, you're just getting warmed up.

Concept idea for you: Maybe we can all be "Commies" next week.

?

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It happens allot..

I'm beginning to think you just like the attention.

What you have is a shill with an agenda. The agenda is to keep rational discussion of Bush off the board during this tough period. Notice how Phaedrus dodges all the rational responses to his position? Notice how every effort past the original post is directed towards inciting childish bickering? Read through the posts above and count how many factual and/or rational responses have been made to the original article. Now count how many factual replies Phaedrus has made - precisely zero.

If people are aguing about Clinton they are not discussing stuff that is extremely harmful to Bush.

Go over to POAC and take a look at this morning's Republican Talking points. Poac gets them. All discussion of Brown is to be discouraged.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you, Crack. Over and out.

Still no rational response huh?

Throwing - yet another - tantrum are we?

Maybe you need to change your tactics.

How can you be a successful shill if people think you are a laughing stock?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-09-10   10:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What you have is a shill with an agenda. The agenda is to keep rational discussion of Bush off the board during this tough period. Notice how Phaedrus dodges all the rational responses to his position? Notice how every effort past the original post is directed towards inciting childish bickering? Read through the posts above and count how many factual and/or rational responses have been made to the original article. Now count how many factual replies Phaedrus has made..

Good point and I agree it's a possibility he's here to squelch discussion..

However, his actions may have a more strategic value.

I've seen a tactic like this before. Consider:

You get some flaming douchebag (No offense, Phaedrus) to come on and post something inciteful.. and to be reasonably polite. He does this over and over, trolling.

Now, before long the heterosexuals become upset over the repeat trolling and scold him.. All is well, right? Well here's the good part.

Then the polesmoking troll's friends (No offense, Phaedrus) start Pm'ing and decrying the lack of "civility" the "personal attacks" etc, etc, etc..

Bush's favorability rating is now lower than Nixon's during Watergate.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-09-10   10:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Many here once posted on FreeRepublic.

Then we watched JR ban anyone who brought up a 3rd party around the 2000 election.

Then we watched him ban anyone who spoke out against what is passing for "free trade".

Then we watched him ban anyone who spoke out against this administration's open border policies.

(BTW, JR and his brother have a business in Mexico. They complained once about not being able to get enough labor because by their own explanation, all the Mexicans had gone north - a link was posted on LP).

Many of us left FR for LP. When Neil left, Goldi began banning people she disagreed with and allowing disruptive posters stay who agreed with her. There are/were many examples of how unevenly she moderated.

This is a more open forum. A great many ideas are allowed and explored here. This makes some people uncomfortable.

It shouldn't, it has always been the right of every American to speak his or her mind about politics and the govt. "Bashing" the current administration has been going on FOR 200 YEARS and counting.

The "bashing" here is the result of analysis of the facts and current events. Except for Katrina, MSM and Congress are not doing this, so it is left to the alternative media to be more objective. This forum is not Fox News, to be sure.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2005-09-10   10:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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