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Title: The Constitution Does Not Protect Our Property
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URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/mullen-t1.1.1.html
Published: Mar 9, 2010
Author: Tom Mullen
Post Date: 2010-03-09 13:33:19 by christine
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The U.S. Constitution is widely believed to have been written to limit the powers of the federal government and protect the rights of its citizens. Inexplicably, this belief is held even by those who acknowledge that the constitutional convention was called for the express purpose of expanding the powers of the federal government, supposedly because the government under the Articles of Confederation was too weak. That this was the purpose of the convention is not a disputed fact. Nevertheless, most people who care at all about the Constitution continue to believe and promote the “Constitution as protector of rights” myth.

To the extent that the Constitution enumerates certain powers for the federal government, with all other powers assumed to be excluded, it does set some limits on government. When one includes the first ten amendments of the Constitution, it also protects certain rights. Indeed, the ninth amendment makes the very important point that the specific protections of certain rights does not in any way deny the existence of others, while the tenth amendment makes explicit the implied limitation to enumerated powers in the Constitution itself. At first glance, the so-called “Bill of Rights” seems to confine government power within an airtight bottle, rendering it incapable of becoming a violator of rights instead of protector of them.

However, this theory does not hold up well under closer examination. To begin with, the Constitution itself does not protect a single right other than habeas corpus, and that comes with a built-in exception. What the Constitution does do is grant powers, and not just to a representative body, as the Articles of Confederation did, but to three separate branches. That leaves it up to the Bill of Rights to serve the purpose of protecting our rights. Generally, those ten amendments protect our rights under extraordinary circumstances, but not under ordinary circumstances. More specifically, the Bill of Rights provides protections for the individual during situations of direct conflict with the federal government, such as when one is accused or convicted of a crime, when one is sued, on the occasion of troops being stationed in residential areas, or when one speaks out against the government or petitions it for redress of grievances.

Make no mistake, these protections are vital and have provided protections for the people against government abuse of power many times in U.S. history. However, they have proven ineffective against the slow, deliberate growth of government power under ordinary circumstances, when the specific conditions described in those amendments do not exist. This is primarily due to the absence of protection, either in the Constitution or in any subsequent amendment, of the most important right of all: property.

By “property,” I do not mean exclusively or even primarily land ownership, although land ownership is one form of property. By “property,” I mean all that an individual rightfully owns, including his mind, body, labor, and the fruits of his labor. It is specifically the right to the fruits of one’s labor that the Constitution fails entirely to protect. In fact, it makes no attempt to do so whatsoever.

In the Constitution itself, the word “property” appears only once, and that is in reference to property owned by the federal government (an inauspicious start). Nowhere does it make any mention of property owned by the citizens.

The document does grant the federal government the power to tax “to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and the general welfare of the United States.” This is a strikingly unlimited scope for which the federal government may tax its citizens. Arguments that taxes may only be collected to underwrite the subsequently enumerated powers have been struck down. Sadly, those decisions have probably been correct. While the power of the Congress to pass laws is explicitly limited to those “necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers,” no such language binds the power to tax. The fact that the explicit limitation exists for lawmaking (which Congress ignores anyway) but not for taxation lends further weight to the argument that the Constitution grants Congress unlimited power to tax its citizens.

One can certainly make the argument that in 1789, the term “general welfare” would have been interpreted much differently than it is today. Indeed, one might assume that the term “general welfare” meant the general protection of each individual’s rights. Perhaps that is what many of the founders believed at the convention. However, it is clear that Alexander Hamilton and his Federalists, the driving force behind calling the convention, had far different ideas about what the term “general welfare” meant. Remember that for Hamilton, the purpose of government was not the protection of rights, but the realization of “national greatness.” This could only be achieved at the expense of individual rights, primarily property rights.

So, the Constitution itself grants Congress unlimited power to tax and does not even mention, much less protect, the individual right to keep the fruits of one’s labor. Certainly the Bill of Rights addresses this deficiency, doesn’t it?

It does not. Like the Constitution itself, the Bill of Rights is virtually silent on the central right of property. Out of all ten amendments, the word “property” appears in only one of them:

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Unlike the congressional power to tax granted in the Constitution, the constitutional protections codified in the Fifth Amendment are severely limited to specific, extraordinary circumstances. The entire Fifth Amendment is set in the context of criminal law, granting certain protections to the accused and/or convicted. The phrase “due process of law” is a specific legal term that refers to those accused of a crime being given notice of the charges, opportunity to face their accusers, call witnesses in their defense, etc. This was obviously the intent of this protection of property, rather than a general protection of property rights against taxation.

Even if one discards the clear intention of this clause of the Fifth Amendment and interprets “due process of law” more broadly, the amendment offers no more protection of property than if one interprets the clause narrowly. Since the power to tax is an enumerated power, Congress would be following due process of law simply by levying the tax in the first place. The last clause of the Fifth Amendment, regarding property taken “for public use,” is similarly limited to extraordinary circumstances. This clause undoubtedly refers to eminent domain, which is a grievous abuse of property rights, but certainly not one that affects a large percentage of the population. Even here, no right is protected. The clause merely requires the government to give the victim “just compensation.” There is no mention of the primary component of the right of property, consent.

Furthermore, there is no mention of how “just compensation” is to be determined, although history has shown that the government itself determines what compensation is just arbitrarily. In a free society, the value of property is determined by the price at which the owner is willing to exchange it. However, since there is no requirement here of the owner’s consent, no such price determination can occur.

As for the remaining protections of property in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, there are none. These two phrases, protecting property under only the most extraordinary circumstances are the length and breadth of the Constitution’s involvement with this most fundamental right. It is this deficiency that has allowed the federal government to grow into the monster that it is, concerned with virtually nothing but the redistribution of wealth.

If you believe the official myth about the Constitution, this might seem shocking. After all, the document was drafted by the same people that had seceded from their nation and fought a long and bloody war primarily to defend their right to keep the fruits of their labor. How could they draft a document to recreate their government, which they said only existed to secure their rights, and not only fail to secure the most important right, but actually empower their government to violate it with impunity? Certainly this was history’s most colossal error.

However, when you consider the political platform of the Federalists, which included corporate welfare, monetary inflation, deficit spending, government debt, and militarism, all designed to maintain the wealth and power of a privileged elite at the expense of the rest of the citizenry, the unlimited power to tax and lack of protection of property seem less like error and more like deliberate intention.

Whenever the subject of “constitutional rights” (a problematic term itself) comes up, people reflexively refer to the right of free speech. This is an important right, and one defended across the political spectrum. However, free speech, freedom of the press, and the other rights protected by the Bill of Rights, without property rights, are inconsequential – the mere window dressing of liberty. It is property that enables one to determine the course of one’s own life. Without it, the right to life is no right at all, but rather a privilege granted by those who own your labor.

George W. Bush was an enthusiastic supporter of the right of “free speech.” During a town hall meeting, an average American who opposed Bush’s policies rose and began hurling insults at the president, eliciting boos from the Bush-friendly audience. Bush reprimanded the crowd, reminding them that this man had a right to speak his mind, even if they did not like what he had to say. It was not the only time that he stood up for free speech. This was no accident. A government that has the unlimited power to seize the property of its citizens can afford to be magnanimous when it comes to free speech. Yet, for the citizen who no longer owns the fruits of his own labor, the right to complain makes him no less a slave.

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when you consider the political platform of the Federalists, which included corporate welfare, monetary inflation, deficit spending, government debt, and militarism, all designed to maintain the wealth and power of a privileged elite at the expense of the rest of the citizenry, the unlimited power to tax and lack of protection of property seem less like error and more like deliberate intention.... for the citizen who no longer owns the fruits of his own labor, the right to complain makes him no less a slave.

I agree the floundering fathers were elitists, and they were in cahoots with the king to deprive the people of their property and labor, but the unlimited power to do this has evolved to this point by trickery and fraud. We ARE slaves today, in spite of the thirteenth amendment we supposedly fight a war to achieve, as our birth certificates are bundled up and sold on the STOCK market. [There is a remedy for that].

Thirteenth Amendment [not the original one, which was the one they absconded with during the War of 1812 regarding Titles of Nobility and Honor]:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]

We, through their deception and our ignorance, VOLUNTEER to be slaves.

Addressed at around 2:17 minutes in:

14th Amendmendment Citizenship: Citizen or citizen. Which one are you?

Truthtrekker
January 01, 2008

"Prior to the alleged ratification of the 14th Amendment, there was no legal definition of a "citizen of the United States", as everyone had primary citizenship in one of the several states. The Constitution referred to the sovereign state citizen, and no one else. Those who went to Washington, D.C. or outside the several states were commonly called "citizens of the United States." In the Constitution for the United States, the term was used to identify state citizens who were eligible under the suffrage laws to hold office, and they were required under the Constitution to have primary allegiance to one of the several states.

Since that term was not specifically defined in the U.S. Constitution, Congress in 1868 took advantage of this term and utilized it in the so-called 14th Amendment to describe a NEW type of "citizen" whose primary allegiance was to the federal government, i.e. Washington, D.C. and not to one of the several states of the union. Thus, using the term as used in the U.S. Constitution to mislead and confuse the people as to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution.

Many people have mistaken the citizen as denominated in the 14th Amendment to mean the same one in the original constitution, this is in error. The "citizen of the united states" as used in the constitution is not the same as the citizen of the United States used after the 14th Amendment. So all the elected officials are NOT sitting in the office constitutionally, they are merely impostors created by the 14th Amendment. The current President Clinton, is a U.S. citizen, and therefore not the "citizen of the united states" defined in the Constitution for the United States, neither the federal senators nor any congressmen are seated constitutionally. These facts being true, then all the federal laws are invalid for want of constitutionality.

The 14th Amendment creates and defines citizenship of the United States. It had long been contended, and had been held by many learned authorities, and had never been judicially decided to the contrary, that there was no such thing as a citizen of the United States, except by first becoming a citizen of some state. United States v. Anthony (1874), 24 Fed. Cas. 829 (No. 14,459), 830.

We have in our political system a government of the United States and a government of each of the several states. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of its own who owe it allegiance, and whose rights, within its jurisdiction, it must protect. The same person may be at the same time a citizen of the United States and a citizen of a state, but his rights of citizenship under one of these governments will be different from those he has under the other. U. S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875).

In other words, you do not have to be a citizen of the United States in order to be a state citizen. This was held to be true by the Maryland Supreme Court in 1966 wherein the state:

Both before and after the Fourteenth Amendment to the federal Constitution, it has not been necessary for a person to be a citizen of the United States in order to be a citizen of his state. Crosse v. Bd. of Supvr,s of Elections, 221 A.2d. 431 (1966)

The federal government was never given any authority to encroach upon the private affairs of the citizens in the several states of the union, unless they were involved in import or export activity, neither were they given authority to reach a citizen of Germany living in Germany. In fact, the states could refuse to enforce any act of congress, that they felt was outside the intent of the granting of limited powers to the federal government. This is called interposition or nullification. Several state supreme courts have in the past refused to uphold federal laws within their states.

- Richard McDonald's state Citizen
political-resources.com/jurisd... " - www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4xV4MTnCdc

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UNITED STATES is a Corporation - There are Two Constitutions

The UNITED STATES of AMERICA is a corporation.Go to the UNITED STATES CODE (note the capitalization, indicating the corporation, not the Republic) Title 28 3002 (15) (A) (B) (C). It is stated unequivocally that the UNITED STATES is a corporation.

Please Check out http://www.commercialredemption.com and http://www.statusisfreedom.com to learn how you were decieved and how to attain freedom from this corporation. Freedom is real and attainable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0

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More:

Good little test here, and a light at the end of the tunnel:

How You Became Liable For the Income Tax

http://howyoubecomeliable.com

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-09   14:57:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1) (Edited)

Example of trickery:

From: "Dave Champion"
Subject: The problem with W2's

The W-2 represents "presumptive evidence" that you have been paid "taxable wages". The presumption arises because you initially provided a SSN (TIN) to your employer and signed that form (W-4) under penalty of perjury.

The presumptive logic goes like this:

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Dear Foolish Citizen,

If you did/do not owe a tax, why did you provide a Taxpayer Identification Number to the source of your pay? Only a person who is receiving "taxable wages" would ever provide a number used (in this application) exclusively for purposes of taxation. If your provided the number, then you must have believed that you were under a legal duty to pay the tax. Since we're here to serve you, we respect and support your belief 100%! Also, you have never filed any of the proper forms that we make available to the public to "correct" W-2's that you feel are "faulty". Accordingly, by both your action, and inaction, you have demonstrated that you must be liable for the tax and that you are well aware that you are liable for the tax. Of course, we have received some

less-than-friendly letters from you. Letters are real nice and the next time you're vacationing in the Bahamas, please send us a post card. However, presumptive evidence is not "overcome" by "chit chat". We do not speak "chit chat"; we speak "IRS procedure". Too bad you didn't know we have a language barrier! Anyway...thanks for all the real cool money!

Yours in oppression,

IRS

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Getting the perspective?

Dave"

[edit: Dave Champion's website:

http://www.nontaxpayer.org

"The Revenue laws are a code or system in regulation of tax assessment and collection. They relate to taxpayers and not to nontaxpayers."
Economy Plumbing and Heating Co. v United States, 470 F.2d 585(1972)

Mr. Champion provides telephone and in-person consulting services to private Citizens and private firms that are nontaxpayers, as well as to those who believe that under the law they should be non-taxpayers. Mr. Champion is available for group presentations, public speaking, and media appearance.

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Excerpt:

"...How You Keep Making Yourself Liable

Although the average American doesn't know it, they repeatedly declare themselves liable for state and federal income tax. This is a classic example of "what you don't know will hurt you!"

Whenever a person who is in control of paying you money asks for an "identifying number" (e.g. SSN, TIN, EIN, ITIN; see 26 CFR 301.6109-1(a) for definitions) what that person is really doing is asking you to declare that the money he is about to pay you is subject to federal and state taxing jurisdiction. Because there is no law that allows a third party to determine your tax status, the person who will be paying you is asking a reasonable question (especially if they are a taxpayer). Of course the problem is that the practical application of the process has been perverted into a "demand" as opposed to a "request". This is particularly odd in light of the fact that the Secretary of the Treasury, in his own tax regulations, states that the requester may only request the number.

26 CFR 301.6109-1(c) - If the person making the return does not know the taxpayer identifying number of the other person, such person must request the other person's number. A request should state that the identifying number is required to be furnished under authority of law. When the person making the return, statement, or other document does not know the number of the other person, and has complied with the request provision of this paragraph, such person must sign an affidavit on the transmittal document forwarding such returns, statements, or other documents to the Internal Revenue Service, so stating.

Let's make a few observations about this section. First, the word "request" is used three times; "demand" is never used. Second, the requestor must request a number from you in writing. Although the request must say that the number is required under law, one must remember that the tax code presumes that all transactions are taxable. A non-taxable transaction is never addressed by the code. The reason for the "request" (and not a demand) is that the IRC must give a nontaxpayer the opportunity to refuse to give an identifying number. If it were otherwise, the IRC would be found unconstitutional by the courts. If a Citizen asserts his nontaxpayer status, and refuses to give a number, the Secretary's own regulations limit the requestor's response to one thing, and one thing only - the submission of an affidavit.

One should take special note that the regulation does not permit the requestor to fire a person for refusing to provide a number, or to withhold payment on goods received or services rendered until a number is provided. Such actions are not lawfully permitted under the regulations. People who engage in such conduct are acting outside of and beyond the regulations of the Secretary (which they purport to be the motivation for their actions). Is it not disingenuous (as well as illegal) for the requestor to claim that you must provide a number because he claims to have a fervent desire to obey the regulations of the Secretary, but then turn around and fire you, or withhold a payment owed, even though such an action is not the remedy specified by the Secretary in his regulations? What such people are really saying by their actions is that they want to obey the regulations only when it suits them, but are willing to completely disregard the regulations when it does not.

In our minds such people are not only criminals, but they are the very worst kind of petty tyrant - they would hold a person's earnings or livelihood over that person's head until the person submits and changes his lawful status to that which the petty tyrant thinks it should be. For the sake of good manners we will refrain from commenting on what we think should be done to a person who blackmails an American Citizen out of his lawful and legal status and coerces him into the unlawful confiscation of his property. Having said that, let's continue.

There is no provision in law for the person making the payment to demand a number and more importantly, unless the payments are in the form of interest, dividends, or patronage dividends, or unless you are an alien, there is no law that permits backup withholding. However, since so many Americans give out their SSN (or other identifying number) at the drop of a hat, we need to understand what it means to give out the number.

First, we need to distinguish between giving the number out for identification purposes (such as for a credit report) and giving it out for tax purposes. Giving the number out for identification purposes may not be advisable, but since this discussion is about taxation, we will address only that aspect. How can you tell when an identifying number is being requested for tax purposes? The common thread is that if you asked the requestor why he wants the number, he would tell you that he needs it because IRC requires him to get it. If his motivation is from the IRC, he's asking for tax reasons. ....."

Read the rest of the article in regards to WHO is required to file [most of us are not]... http://www.originalintent.org/edu/fedincometax.php

Even if you are required to file, there is no real money to PAY the debt, and that leaves the ability to DISCHARGE the debt [or at least that's what I'm understanding].

See http://www.truthsetsusfree.com / http://www.redemptionservice.com / http://www.discharge-debt.com for example.

Read about CRACKING THE CODE - The Author is Under Attack....here's why: HE'S RIGHT!!

http://www.losthorizons.com/

Readers of 'Cracking the Code- The Fascinating Truth About Taxation In America' have already retained or taken back well over $10 Million from the federal and state governments-- including Social Security and Medicare 'contributions'-- and kept it in their own pockets where it belongs, simply by knowing what the law actually says. These Americans have gotten back every penny they've paid or had withheld from them during the year in connection with the "income tax", and have secured written acknowledgements that they owed nothing-- many for several years in a row now.

YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH, TOO!!

The Lost Horizons Bulletin Board

In the table below you'll find links to those of the thousands of victories won for the Rule of Law by readers of 'Cracking the Code- The Fascinating Truth About Taxation In America' since 2003 which have been generously sent to me in order to be shared with you.

http://www.losthorizons.com/BulletinBoard.htm

The Rule Of Law Under Assault

A Final Escalation In The Government's Corrupt Efforts To Keep More Americans From Learning The Liberating Truth About The Income Tax
http://www.losthorizons.com/LastShotForTheLawDefiers.htm

[Pharaoh doesn't want to let the people go.]

Edit:

I suppose, before we embark on disentangling ourselves from CorpUSA, we should put a copy of this in the hands of family, friends, neighbors, etc., and tell them if we disappear, their US Government should be the #1 suspect:

Dissenters To Be Detained As "Enemy Belligerents"?

New bill allows U.S. citizens to be kidnapped and detained without trial indefinitely based on "suspected activity"

Since the establishment media is convinced that tea party members, 9/11 truthers, libertarians, Ron Paul supporters, and basically anyone with a dissenting political opinion is a likely domestic terrorist, they should be celebrating the fact that a new bill would allow the government to detain such people as "enemy belligerents" indefinitely and without trial based on their "suspected activity".

The "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010," introduced by Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman on Thursday with little fanfare, "sets out a comprehensive policy for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected enemy belligerents who are believed to have engaged in hostilities against the United States by requiring these individuals to be held in military custody, interrogated for their intelligence value and not provided with a Miranda warning," writes the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder.

The full bill can be read here (PDF).

The bill does not distinguish between U.S. citizens and non-citizens, and states that "suspected belligerents" who are "considered a "high-value detainee" shall not be provided with a Miranda warning."

A person is considered a "high value detainee" if they fulfil one of the following criteria.

(1) poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the U.S. or U.S. facilities abroad; (2) poses a threat to U.S. military personnel or U.S. military facilities; (3) potential intelligence value; (4) is a member of al Qaeda or a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda or (5) such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

Now that the Southern Poverty Law Center and the federal government, via the MIAC report and innumerable other leaked documents, now consider virtually anyone with a dissenting opinion against the state as "posing a threat," millions of peaceful American citizens could be swept up by this frightening dragnet of tyranny....." http://www.propagandamatrix.com/...0_dissenters_detained.htm

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#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#3)

Well done.

PatrickHenry  posted on  2010-03-09 17:52:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#3) (Edited)

Thirteenth Amendment [not the original one, which was the one they absconded with during the War of 1812 regarding Titles of Nobility and Honor]:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, *** except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

US Supreme Court: "We are of the opinion that there is a clear distinction in this particular between an individual and a corporation, and that the latter has no right to refuse to submit its books and papers for an examination. The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the state or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the state, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are the refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under a warrant of law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights . . . An individual may lawfully refuse to answer incriminating questions unless protected by an immunity statute . . ." (Hale vs. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43)

Justice William Douglas declared, "The Fifth Amendment is an old friend and a good friend. It is one of the greatest landmarks in man's struggle to be free of tyranny, to be decent and civilized."

Justice Miller said, "To lay with one hand the power of government on the property of the citizen, and with the other to bestow it on favored individuals . . . is none the less robbery because it was under the forms of law and is called taxation." (Loan Assc. vs. Topeka, 20 Wall (87U.S.) 664, 1874)

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Well, let's see. The legislation signed by the whores in Congress and the Presidency said the property taken from the people in the "health care" fraud is "not a tax" [4um: Health Care Bill Explained.]

[Many Americans have wised up to the tax fraud. They realize that most Americans are not liable, and have been coming out of that scheme in droves. And many have chosen to cancel their contracts with the government. Many have become secured party creditors and discharged taxes and "The Attitude is 'Everything is done for our benefit. If they are not acting for your benefit, they are in violation of their fiduciary duty. They are the Trustees in Bankruptcy'."]

Yet, payments for the "not-a-tax" will be lifted from one's bank account by agents of the IRS. Let's see, if it's true the legislation states this is not a tax, and it's not voluntary, it must be called what it is: THEFT and INVOLUNTARY SLAVERY. Last I looked, theft and slavery were still crimes. They are guilty according to their own signed legislation. Let their punishment according to the 13th Amendment begin, IMO.

Isaiah 14:2..... and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

bible.cc/isaiah/14-2.htm

Psalm 141:9 Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity.

10 Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-25 12:13:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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