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Title: A Detention Bill You Ought to Read More Carefully (detention of "enemy belligerent" aka protester)
Source: The Atlantic
URL Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics ... t-to-read-more-carefully/37116
Published: Mar 5, 2010
Author: Marc Ambinder
Post Date: 2010-03-09 21:22:34 by rack42
Keywords: protester, belligerent, enemy
Views: 174
Comments: 10

A Detention Bill You Ought to Read More Carefully

Mar 5 2010, 3:40 PM ET

Why is the national security community treating the "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010," introduced by Sens. John McCain and Joseph Lieberman on Thursday as a standard proposal, as a simple response to the administration's choices in the aftermath of the Christmas Day bombing attempt? A close reading of the bill suggests it would allow the U.S. military to detain U.S. citizens without trial indefinitely in the U.S. based on suspected activity. Read the bill here, and then read the summarized points after the jump.
According to the summary, the bill sets out a comprehensive policy for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected enemy belligerents who are believed to have engaged in hostilities against the United States by requiring these individuals to be held in military custody, interrogated for their intelligence value and not provided with a Miranda warning.

(There is no distinction between U.S. persons--visa holders or citizens--and non-U.S. persons.)


It would require these "belligerents" to be coded as "high-value detainee[s]" to be held in military custody and interrogated for their intelligence value by a High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team established by the president. (The H.I.G., of course, was established to bring a sophisticated interrogation capacity to the federal justice system.)

Any suspected unprivileged enemy belligerents considered a "high-value detainee" shall not be provided with a Miranda warning.

The bill asks the President to determine criteria for designating an individual as a "high-value detainee" if he/she: (1) poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the U.S. or U.S. facilities abroad; (2) poses a threat to U.S. military personnel or U.S. military facilities; (3) potential intelligence value; (4) is a member of al Qaeda or a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda or (5) such other matters as the President considers appropriate. The President must submit the regulations and guidance to the appropriate committees of Congress no later than 60 days after enactment.

To the extent possible, the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team must make a preliminary determination whether the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent within 48 hours of taking detainee into custody.

The High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team must submit its determination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General after consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.  The Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General make a final determination and report the determination to the President and the appropriate committees of Congress.  In the case of any disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President will make the determination.  

Note that the president himself doesn't get to make the call.


Poster Comment:

Here we go: all citizens that object to government unconstitutional laws, regs, whatever, will be labeled as "enemy belligerent." That those stalwarts of civil liberties, McCain and Liberberman, proposed this legislation warms the cockles of my heart. /sarc off

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For Those That Really Care

The Truth Does Indeed Set One Free


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-09   21:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Rotara (#1)

Yah know, I'm amazed at the lack of response to this post.

Perhaps you're post will keep it in view.

(I'm about to spit so I'm out)

rack42  posted on  2010-03-09   23:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rack42 (#0)

The struggle between good and evil is heating up. Choose your side and make your stand. As for me and my house, we will choose the Lord!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-03-10   1:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: RickyJ, Rotara, rack42 (#3)

The struggle between good and evil is heating up. Choose your side and make your stand. As for me and my house, we will choose the Lord!

bump that!

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The High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team must submit its determination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General after consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General make a final determination and report the determination to the President and the appropriate committees of Congress. In the case of any disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President will make the determination.

Note that the president himself doesn't get to make the call.

Meet The IRS, America's Enemy Within...
Dec 23, 2001 ... 22 USCA 286f . According to the 1994 US Government Manual, at page 390, the Attorney General is the permanent representative to INTERPOL, ... www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy6.htm

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Holder Pledges Hate Crimes Cooperation with ADL By Rev. Rev. Ted Pike 11-12-9 ... efforts to help pass the hate bill, as Attorney General he is determined.... www.rense.com/general88/holder.htm

"Modern Militia Movement" Report Written with ADL Assistance
Almost the entire Missouri report is composed of cursorily re-worded documents publicly available on the ADL's web site.
... www.infowars.com/modern-m...movement-report-wr...[not the full url]

Last but not least:

Now the Government Can Legally Kill Christians...By Beheading!"
by Bill Dannemeyer, U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992. Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the "œcrime" of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people... [note: Rev. 20:7-9; Christian America is the "beloved city" - ATKHWDI] www.takebackourrights.org...ristians-full%20page.html

Now the Government Can Legally Kill Christians
Dr. Lorraine Day ... In the [ADL] letter, there is no mention of my website article entitled "Now the U.S. Government Can Legally Kill Christians," exposing the Jews ... www.takebackourrights.org/docs/noahidelaw.html

Will history REPEAT ITSELF? [I don't know if that is in God's plan, but it obviously is in theirs]:

Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

bible.cc/mark/13-9.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-10   6:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rack42 (#2)

111TH CONGRESS 2D SESSION S. ll To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

Mr. MCCAIN introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred

to the Committee on llllllllll A BILL To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. 4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Enemy Belligerent In5 terrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010’’. March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 2 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 SEC. 2. PLACEMENT OF SUSPECTED UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY 2 BELLIGERENTS IN MILITARY CUSTODY. 3 (a) MILITARY CUSTODY REQUIREMENT.—Whenever 4 within the United States, its territories, and possessions, 5 or outside the territorial limits of the United States, an 6 individual is captured or otherwise comes into the custody 7 or under the effective control of the United States who 8 is suspected of engaging in hostilities against the United 9 States or its coalition partners through an act of ter10 rorism, or by other means in violation of the laws of war, 11 or of purposely and materially supporting such hostilities, 12 and who may be an unprivileged enemy belligerent, the 13 individual shall be placed in military custody for purposes 14 of initial interrogation and determination of status in ac15 cordance with the provisions of this Act. 16 (b) REASONABLE DELAY FOR INTELLIGENCE AC17 TIVITIES.—An individual who may be an unprivileged 18 enemy belligerent and who is initially captured or other19 wise comes into the custody or under the effective control 20 of the United States by an intelligence agency of the 21 United States may be held, interrogated, or transported 22 by the intelligence agency and placed into military custody 23 for purposes of this Act if retained by the United States 24 within a reasonable time after the capture or coming into 25 the custody or effective control by the intelligence agency, 26 giving due consideration to operational needs and require- March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 3 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 ments to avoid compromise or disclosure of an intelligence 2 mission or intelligence sources or methods. 3 SEC. 3. INTERROGATION AND DETERMINATION OF STATUS 4 OF SUSPECTED UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BEL5 LIGERENTS. 6 (a) ESTABLISHMENT OF INTERROGATION GROUPS.— 7 (1) ESTABLISHMENT AUTHORIZED.—The Presi8 dent is authorized to establish an interagency team 9 for purposes as follows: 10 (A) To interrogate under subsection (b) in11 dividuals placed in military custody under sec12 tion 2. 13 (B) To make under subsection (c)(1) a 14 preliminary determination of the status of indi15 viduals described in section 2. 16 (2) COMPOSITION.—Each interagency team 17 under this subsection shall be composed of such per18 sonnel of the Executive Branch having expertise in 19 matters relating to national security, terrorism, in20 telligence, interrogation, or law enforcement as the 21 President considers appropriate. The members of 22 any particular interagency team may vary depending 23 on the skills most relevant to a particular case. 24 (3) DESIGNATIONS.— March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 4 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 (A) HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE.—An indi2 vidual placed in military custody under section 3 2 shall, while subject to interrogation and de4 termination of status under this section, be re5 ferred to as a ‘‘high-value detainee’’ if the indi6 vidual meets the criteria for treatment as such 7 established in the regulations required by sub8 section (d). 9 (B) HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGA10 TION GROUP.—An interagency team established 11 under this subsection shall be known as a 12 ‘‘high-value detainee interrogation group’’. 13 (b) INTERROGATIONS.— 14 (1) INTERROGATIONS TO BE CONDUCTED BY 15 HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP.—A 16 high-value detainee interrogation group established 17 under this section shall conduct the interrogations of 18 each high-value detainee. 19 (2) UTILIZATION OF OTHER PERSONNEL.—A 20 high-value detainee interrogation group may utilize 21 military and intelligence personnel, and Federal, 22 State, and local law enforcement personnel, in con23 ducting interrogations of a high-value detainee. The 24 utilization of such personnel for the interrogation of 25 a detainee shall not alter the responsibility of the in- March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 5 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 terrogation group for the coordination within the 2 Executive Branch of the interrogation of the de3 tainee or the determination of status and disposition 4 of the detainee under this Act. 5 (3) INAPPLICABILITY OF CERTAIN STATEMENT 6 AND RIGHTS.—A individual who is suspected of 7 being an unprivileged enemy belligerent shall not, 8 during interrogation under this subsection, be pro9 vided the statement required by Miranda v. Arizona 10 (384 U.S. 436 (1966)) or otherwise be informed of 11 any rights that the individual may or may not have 12 to counsel or to remain silent consistent with Mi13 randa v. Arizona. 14 (c) DETERMINATIONS OF STATUS.— 15 (1) PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH16 VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP.—The 17 high-value detainee interrogation group responsible 18 for interrogating a high-value detainee under sub19 section (b) shall make a preliminary determination 20 whether or not the detainee is an unprivileged enemy 21 belligerent. The interrogation group shall make such 22 determination based on the result of its interroga23 tion of the individual and on all intelligence informa24 tion available to the interrogation group. The inter25 rogation group shall, after consultation with the Di- March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 6 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 rector of National Intelligence, the Director of the 2 Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of 3 the Central Intelligence Agency, submit such deter4 mination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attor5 ney General. 6 (2) FINAL DETERMINATION.—As soon as pos7 sible after receipt of a preliminary determination of 8 status with respect to a high-value detainee under 9 paragraph (1), the Secretary of Defense and the At10 torney General shall jointly submit to the President 11 and to the appropriate committees of Congress a 12 final determination whether or not the detainee is an 13 unprivileged enemy belligerent for purposes of this 14 Act. In the event of a disagreement between the Sec15 retary of Defense and the Attorney General, the 16 President shall make the final determination. 17 (3) DEADLINE FOR DETERMINATIONS.—All ac18 tions required regarding a high-value detainee under 19 this subsection shall, to the extent practicable, be 20 completed not later than 48 hours after the detainee 21 is placed in military custody under section 2. 22 (d) REGULATIONS.— 23 (1) IN GENERAL.—The operations and activities 24 of high-value detainee interrogation groups under 25 this section shall be governed by such regulations March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 7 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 and guidance as the President shall establish for 2 purposes of implementing this section. The regula3 tions shall specify the officer or officers of the Exec4 utive Branch responsible for determining whether an 5 individual placed in military custody under section 2 6 meets the criteria for treatment as a high-value de7 tainee for purposes of interrogation and determina8 tion of status by a high-value interrogation group 9 under this section. 10 (2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVID11 UALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES.—The regulations 12 required by this subsection shall include criteria for 13 designating an individual as a high-value detainee 14 based on the following: 15 (A) The potential threat the individual 16 poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facili17 ties within the United States or upon United 18 States citizens or United States civilian facili19 ties abroad at the time of capture or when com20 ing under the custody or control of the United 21 States. 22 (B) The potential threat the individual 23 poses to United States military personnel or 24 United States military facilities at the time of March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 8 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 capture or when coming under the custody or 2 control of the United States. 3 (C) The potential intelligence value of the 4 individual. 5 (D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a ter6 rorist group affiliated with al Qaeda. 7 (E) Such other matters as the President 8 considers appropriate. 9 (3) PARAMOUNT PURPOSE OF INTERROGA10 TIONS.—The regulations required by this subsection 11 shall provide that the paramount purpose of the in12 terrogation of high-value detainees under this Act 13 shall be the protection of United States civilians and 14 United States civilian facilities through thorough 15 and professional interrogation for intelligence pur16 poses. 17 (4) SUBMITTAL TO CONGRESS.—The President 18 shall submit the regulations and guidance required 19 by this subsection to the appropriate committees of 20 Congress not later than 60 days after the date of 21 the enactment of this Act. 22 SEC. 4. LIMITATION ON PROSECUTION OF ALIEN 23 UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS. 24 (a) LIMITATION.—No funds appropriated or other25 wise made available to the Department of Justice may be March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 9 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 used to prosecute in an Article III court in the United 2 States, or in any territory or possession of the United 3 States, any alien who has been determined to be an 4 unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2). 5 (b) APPLICABILITY PENDING FINAL DETERMINA6 TION OF STATUS.—While a final determination on the sta7 tus of an alien high-value detainee is pending under sec8 tion 3(c)(2), the alien shall be treated as an unprivileged 9 enemy belligerent for purposes of subsection (a). 10 SEC. 5. DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED 11 ENEMY BELLIGERENTS. 12 An individual, including a citizen of the United 13 States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent 14 under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 15 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of 16 Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal 17 charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities 18 against the United States or its coalition partners in which 19 the individual has engaged, or which the individual has 20 purposely and materially supported, consistent with the 21 law of war and any authorization for the use of military 22 force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities. 23 SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS. 24 In this Act: March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 10 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 (1) ACT OF TERRORISM.—The term ‘‘act of ter2 rorism’’ means an act of terrorism as that term is 3 defined in section 101(16) of the Homeland Security 4 Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 101(16)). 5 (2) ALIEN.—The term ‘‘alien’’ means an indi6 vidual who is not a citizen of the United States. 7 (3) APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES OF CON8 GRESS.—The term ‘‘appropriate committees of Con9 gress’’ means— 10 (A) the Committee on Armed Services, the 11 Committee on Homeland Security and Govern12 mental Affairs, the Committee on the Judiciary, 13 and the Select Committee on Intelligence of the 14 Senate; and 15 (B) the Committee on Armed Services, the 16 Committee on Homeland Security, the Com17 mittee on the Judiciary, and the Permanent Se18 lect Committee on Intelligence of the House of 19 Representatives. 20 (4) ARTICLE III COURT.—The term ‘‘Article III 21 court’’ means a court of the United States estab22 lished under Article III of the Constitution of the 23 United States. 24 (5) COALITION PARTNER.—The term ‘‘coalition 25 partner’’, with respect to hostilities engaged in by March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 11 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 the United States, means any State or armed force 2 directly engaged along with the United States in 3 such hostilities or providing direct operational sup4 port to the United States in connection with such 5 hostilities. 6 (6) GENEVA CONVENTION RELATIVE TO THE 7 TREATMENT OF PRISONERS OF WAR.—The term 8 ‘‘Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of 9 Prisoners of War’’ means the Geneva Convention 10 Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, done 11 at Geneva August 12, 1949 (6 UST 3316). 12 (7) HOSTILITIES.—The term ‘‘hostilities’’ 13 means any conflict subject to the laws of war, and 14 includes a deliberate attack upon civilians and civil15 ian targets protected by the laws of war. 16 (8) PRIVILEGED BELLIGERENT.—The term 17 ‘‘privileged belligerent’’ means an individual belong18 ing to one of the eight categories enumerated in Ar19 ticle 4 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the 20 Treatment of Prisoners of War. 21 (9) UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENT.— 22 The term ‘‘unprivileged enemy belligerent’’ means an 23 individual (other than a privileged belligerent) who— 24 (A) has engaged in hostilities against the 25 United States or its coalition partners; March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 12 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 (B) has purposely and materially sup2 ported hostilities against the United States or 3 its coalition partners; or 4 (C) was a part of al Qaeda at the time of 5 capture. 6 SEC. 7. EFFECTIVE DATE. 7 This Act shall take effect on the date of the enact8 ment of this Act, and shall apply with respect to individ9 uals who are captured or otherwise come into the custody 10 or under the effective control of the United States on

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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-03-10   7:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-10   8:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

24 (a) LIMITATION.—No funds appropriated or other25 wise made available to the Department of Justice may be March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 9 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 used to prosecute in an Article III court in the United 2 States, or in any territory or possession of the United 3 States, any alien who has been determined to be an 4 unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2). 5 (b) APPLICABILITY PENDING FINAL DETERMINA6 TION OF STATUS.—While a final determination on the sta7 tus of an alien high-value detainee is pending under sec8 tion 3(c)(2), the alien shall be treated as an unprivileged 9 enemy belligerent for purposes of subsection (a). 10 SEC. 5. DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED 11 ENEMY BELLIGERENTS. 12 An individual, including a citizen of the United 13 States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent 14 under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 15 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of 16 Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal 17 charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities 18 against the United States or its coalition partners in which 19 the individual has engaged, or which the individual has 20 purposely and materially supported, consistent with the 21 law of war and any authorization for the use of military 22 force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities. 23 SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS. 24 In this Act: March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 10 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 (1) ACT OF TERRORISM.—The term ‘‘act of ter2 rorism’’ means an act of terrorism as that term is 3 defined in section 101(16) of the Homeland Security 4 Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 101(16)). 5 (2) *** ALIEN.—The term ‘‘alien’’ means an indi6 vidual who is not a **** citizen of the United States. 7 (3) APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES OF CON8 GRESS.—The term ‘‘appropriate committees of Con9 gress’’ means— 10 (A) the Committee on Armed Services, the 11 Committee on Homeland Security and Govern12 mental Affairs, the Committee on the Judiciary, 13 and the Select Committee on Intelligence of the 14 Senate; and 15 (B) the Committee on Armed Services, the 16 Committee on Homeland Security, the Com17 mittee on the Judiciary, and the Permanent Se18 lect Committee on Intelligence of the House of 19 Representatives. 20 (4) ARTICLE III COURT.—The term ‘‘Article III 21 court’’ means a court of the United States estab22 lished under Article III of the Constitution of the 23 United States. 24 (5) COALITION PARTNER.—The term ‘‘coalition 25 partner’’, with respect to hostilities engaged in by March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 11 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 the United States, means any State or armed force 2 directly engaged along with the United States in 3 such hostilities or providing direct operational sup4 port to the United States in connection with such 5 hostilities. 6 (6) GENEVA CONVENTION RELATIVE TO THE 7 TREATMENT OF PRISONERS OF WAR.—The term 8 ‘‘Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of 9 Prisoners of War’’ means the Geneva Convention 10 Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, done 11 at Geneva August 12, 1949 (6 UST 3316). 12 (7) HOSTILITIES.—The term ‘‘hostilities’’ 13 means any conflict subject to the laws of war, and 14 includes a deliberate attack upon civilians and civil15 ian targets protected by the laws of war. 16 (8) PRIVILEGED BELLIGERENT.—The term 17 ‘‘privileged belligerent’’ means an individual belong18 ing to one of the eight categories enumerated in Ar19 ticle 4 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the 20 Treatment of Prisoners of War. 21 (9) UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENT.— 22 The term ‘‘unprivileged enemy belligerent’’ means an 23 individual (other than a privileged belligerent) who— 24 (A) has engaged in hostilities against the 25 United States or its coalition partners;] [Babylonian Britain/City of London, for sure; is "Israel" a coalition partner?] March 4, 2010 (12:06 p.m.) 12 ARM10090 S.L.C. 1 (B) has purposely and materially sup2 ported hostilities against the United States or 3 its coalition partners;

I guess I'll have to work on unloading some windows and work on defining the legalese within a little further. They never come right out and spell out their treachery in full view. They make you chase down all the rabbit trails and connect the dots.

*** ALIEN.—The term ‘‘alien’’ means an indi6 vidual who is not a **** citizen of the United States.

I tried to warn about this at least a couple of years ago. This term includes those of the SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MOVEMENT. It is "Pharisee-speak" for those who know the difference between a small "c", 14th Amendment [slave, worshipper-of-the-Beast] citizen of the "United States" [a Judeo-Masonic CORPORATION], and a SOVEREIGN-ON-THE LAND AMERICAN [capital "C"] Citizen [Revelation 5:9-10/John 10]:

Sovereign Citizen Movement -- Extremism in America
Yet despite a pattern of violent activity, the preferred weapon of members of the sovereign citizen movement is what has come to be called "paper terrorism. ...

"Sovereign Citizen Movement
Origins: Çirca 1970; fully developed by early 1980s
Ideology: Anti-government, some white supremacist elements
Outreach: Vigilante courts, seminars, shortwave radio, the Internet, "schools of common law"

Notable Episodes: 1996 Montana Freeman standoff; 1997 Republic of Texas standoff Tactics "Paper terrorism," including frivolous lawsuits, frivolous liens, fictitious financial instruments, fictitious automobile-related documents, and misuse of genuine documents such as IRS forms; various frauds and scams
Hot Tactic: "Redemption"
(see below)

The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence. ....."

http://www.adl.org/Learn/ext_us/SCM.asp?xpicked=4&item=20

Anti-Government Extremist Convicted on "Paper Terrorism" Charges
Charles K. Bailey, an anti-government extremist with links to the "sovereign citizen" movement, was sentenced on June 10, 2003 to ten years in prison following his conviction in ... http://www.adl.org/learn/news/Paper_Terrorism.asp

What they refer to as "Paper Terrorism" is what I was advocating over here:

Show Me the Law http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=115577

The Constitution Does Not Protect Our Property http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=115586

So-called "Paper Terrorism" is what GOD hints at as our REDEMPTION from our "Egypt" [Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16,17..29], Coming out of "Babylon" and Taking her ILL-GOTTEN GAIN and dedicating it to God and the healing of the nations.

[That's why the bill might also be called "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and PERSECUTION Act of 2010", because it is aimed ultimately against God's people and His mission for them.]

Isaiah 52-3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought [See Jordan Maxwell - our birth certificates are traded on the STOCK (as in GOYIM/CATTLE) Market] ; and ye shall be redeemed without money. bible.cc/isaiah/52-3.htm

YouTube - Stock Market & Birth Certificates. How much are YOU worth? YOUR birth certificate and mine are [sold] on the stock exchange. ... Jordan Maxwell - You are property of the Rothschild family! ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFXdCH--Gjo

Welcome To The World Of Jordan Maxwell - Videos - Maritime Law ...
CROWN LAND WORLDWIDE LIMITED Certificate Of Incorporation Of A Private Limited ..... Vic Uses The Game Of Monopoly To Explain The Birth Certificate - 44 Minutes ... http://loveforlife.com.au/node/4731

YouTube - The Uniform Commercial Code: UCC = Slavery
JORDAN MAXWELL is on point. We are PRODUCTS of AMERIKA, INC. Thatz the UNITED STATES of (corporate) AMERIKA. Very simple. Your BIRTH CERTIFICATE is your ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oux3wMLdP2U

Zechariah 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon. bible.cc/zechariah/2-7.htm

[see also The Enduring Legacy of the First Landing [the cross] http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=41327 and Ezekiel 17:1-6/John 15:1-2,Psalm 2:6,Micah 4:1-2; and Satan on Our Dollar at http://jesus-is-savior.com and Ezekiel 17:7-10/Matthew 15:13]

Micah 4:13 Rise and thresh, O Daughter of Zion, for I will give you horns of iron; I will give you hoofs of bronze and you will break to pieces many nations." [or HEATHENS, which is what the Banksters and rulers are. Look up "nations" in the Concordance. see Ezekiel 38-39] You will devote their ill-gotten gains to the LORD, their wealth to the Lord of all the earth. bible.cc/micah/4-13.htm / bible.cc/revelation/22-2.htm ["12 manner of fruit" see disciples John 15:15-16]

Isaiah 10:24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. 26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt. 27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.

Note on the ADL page some of the other so-called "extremist" groups : Christian Identity [an Illuminati front. Search Christian Identity British Israel Racism http://freedomdomain.com ], Ecoterrorism, Ku Klux Klan [another Illuminati-created (see Albert Pike, Judeo-Freemason], Militia Movement, and Tax Protest Movement

Word to the Rothshilds and other Banksters et al:

Habbukuk 2:3.....at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry. [ bible.cc/isaiah/10-26.htm /

4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

6 Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay!

7 Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?

8 Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men's blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.

9 Woe to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his house, that he may set his nest on high, that he may be delivered from the power of evil!

10 Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul.

11 For the stone shall cry out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber shall answer it.

12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!

13 Behold, is it not of the LORD of hosts that the people shall labour in the very fire, and the people shall weary themselves for very vanity?

14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

15 Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness!

16 Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD's right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.

17 For the violence of Lebanon shall cover thee, and the spoil of beasts, which made them afraid, because of men's blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein......

20 But the LORD is in his holy temple [ bible.cc/2_corinthians/6-16.htm / http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=41327 ]; let all the earth keep silence before him. http://kingjbible.com/habakkuk/2.htm

Psalm 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. bible.cc/psalms/2-12.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-10   10:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rack42, belligerents (#2)

Yah know, I'm amazed at the lack of response to this post.

It could be because most of us here have already figgered out that we are the enemy, have have been for several years now.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-10   11:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)

STATEMENT BY SENATOR McCAIN ON THE ENEMY BELLIGERENT INTERROGATION, DETENTION, AND PROSECUTION ACT OF 2010

March 4, 2010

MCCAIN PRESS OFFICE

Mr. President, I rise to introduce legislation that sets forth a clear, comprehensive policy for the detention, interrogation and trial of enemy belligerents who are suspected of engaging in hostilities against the United States. This legislation seeks to ensure that the mistakes made during the apprehension of the Christmas Day bomber, such as reading him a Miranda warning, will never happen again and put Americans’ security at risk.

Specifically, this bill would require unprivileged enemy belligerents suspected of engaging in hostilities against the U.S. to be held in military custody and interrogated for their intelligence value by a “high value detainee” interagency team established by the President. This interagency team of experts in national security, terrorism, intelligence, interrogation and law enforcement will have the protection of U.S. civilians and civilian facilities as their paramount responsibility and experience in gaining actionable intelligence from high value detainees.

These experts must, to the extent it is possible to do so, make a preliminary determination whether the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent within 48 hours of a detainee being taken into custody. The experts then must submit their determination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General after consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General make a final determination and report it to the President and the appropriate committees of Congress. In the case of any disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President will make the final call.

A key provision of this bill is that it would prohibit a suspected enemy belligerent from being provided with a Miranda warning and being told he has a right to a lawyer and a right to refuse to cooperate. I believe that an overwhelming majority of Americans agree that when we capture a terrorist who is suspected of carrying out or planning an attack intended to kill hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians, our focus must be on gaining all the information possible to prevent that attack or any that may follow from occurring. Under these circumstances, actionable intelligence must be our highest priority and criminal prosecution must be secondary.

Additionally, the legislation would authorize detention of enemy belligerents without criminal charges for the duration of the hostilities consistent with standards under the law of war which have been recognized by the Supreme Court. Importantly, if a decision is made to hold a criminal trial after the necessary intelligence information is obtained, the bill mandates trial by military commission where we are best able to protect U.S. [A JUDEO-MASONIC-ALMOST FORGOT...BRITISH! CORPORATION - ATKHWDI] national security interests, including sensitive classified sources and methods, as well as the place and the people involved in the trial itself.

Mr. President, it should come as no comfort to any American that nearly eight and a half years after the attacks of 9/11 we still don’t have a clear mechanism, legal structure, and implementing policy for dealing with terrorists who we capture in the act of trying to bring about attacks on the United States and our national security interests at home and abroad. What we saw with the Christmas Day bomber was a series of missteps and staggering failures in coordination among the most senior members of the Administration’s national security officials that have continued to be compounded by Administration apologists who still don’t seem to understand that repeating the same mistakes that were made in 2001 and 2002 is going to lead to the deaths of many more Americans.

The vast majority of Americans understand that what happened with the Christmas Day bomber was a near catastrophe that was only prevented by sheer luck and the courage of a few of the passengers and crew. A wide majority of Americans also realize that allowing a terrorist to be interrogated for only 50 minutes before he is given a Miranda warning and told he can obtain a lawyer and stop cooperating is not sufficient.

Let me be clear about where I think the fault lies with our current policy. I believe that the local FBI agents who were involved with investigating the Detroit attack are patriotic Americans who are experts in the field of law enforcement. I hold the FBI in the highest regard and believe they set the standard for law enforcement professionalism not only in the U.S., but internationally. But it is impossible for FBI field agents to know all the information that is available to the U.S. intelligence community worldwide during the first 50 minutes of interrogation of a suspected terrorist. We must ensure that the broad range of expertise that is available within our government is brought to bear on such high-value detainees. This bill mandates such coordination and places the proper focus on getting intelligence to stop an attack, rather than allowing law enforcement and preparing a case for a civilian criminal trial to drive our response.

Mr. President, deliberate mass attacks that intentionally target hundreds of innocent civilians are an act of war and should not be dealt with in the same manner as a robbery. We must recognize the difference. If we don’t, our response will be hopelessly inadequate. We should not be providing suspected terrorists with Miranda warnings and defense lawyers. Instead, the priority and focus must be on isolating and neutralizing the immediate threat and collecting intelligence to prevent another attack.

In closing, let me say that I hope that Congress and the Administration support this legislation as part of a comprehensive solution for detaining, interrogating and prosecuting suspected enemy belligerents. However, there is a lot more work that must be done. I am continuing to work with Senator Graham, Senator Lieberman, and others to address other crucial aspects of detainee policy.

As part of that effort, I believe we must establish a system for long-term detention of terrorists who are too dangerous to release, but who cannot be tried in a civilian court. While the law of war authorizes detention until the end of hostilities--something the Supreme Court has recognized and which is reinforced in this bill--I believe that a review system for the long-term detention of detainees should be set out in law. Additionally, both the United States District Court for the District of Columbia and the D.C. Circuit Court have urged Congress to provide uniform guidelines to apply in the habeas corpus cases that have been brought by detainees. Currently, the outcomes in the Guantanamo detainee habeas cases are inconsistent because of different interpretations of novel questions of law the judges face in applying habeas to wartime prisoners for the first time in our history. I will continue to work on a bipartisan basis to improve this process to obtain better, more uniform results. I do not believe that we will have addressed all the necessary detainee policy challenges until we do so, and my efforts will not stop until we have addressed all the detainee issues in a comprehensive fashion.

While other detainee policy challenges remain, I believe the handling of the Christmas Day bomber – including the law enforcement focus and the decision to read a Miranda warning after only 50 minutes of interrogation-- demand that Congress and the Administration first address the issue which is most crucial to our national security. For that reason, we must have a clear policy, legal foundation, and mechanism for the detention, interrogation and trial of enemy belligerents who are suspected of engaging in hostilities against the United States. I hope my colleagues will join me in supporting this important legislation.

========================

McCain [how fitting his name should be so close the one one who murdered his brother Abel]

S.3081: Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and ... Mar 4, 2010 ... and to the "Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010" (S.3081), introduced by Senators McCain and Lieberman, ... htpp://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s3081/show

Noachide Judges and Courts will Replace the Existing Court System ...

Ukrainian-born Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, 1902-1994. [ATKHWDI note: Schneerson is believed to be the Jews' Messiah, whom they are waiting to be raised from the dead....I keep reading about how they are able to create clones of people within 1 year....If this is true, I imagine Schneerson's clone is waiting in the wings for "a time of our choosing".]

ABOVE: Vice-Presidential candidate Joe Lieberman with the Lubavitcher Rebbe

"....Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. All economic and technological aid to the Communist Bloc, including the PLO, will be terminated immediately. Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts (the batei dinim of the rabbis) will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts. The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha; in the United States, the emphasis will be on restoring the authority of the Constitution and abolishing all unconstitutional government programs and agencies. The national debt will be foreclosed, probably by paying off creditors with government land holdings, thus averting economic disaster. And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law....."

"...Rabbi Schneerson is cited as teaching that:

* Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different species.
* A non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish, while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is Jewish.
* Two kinds of souls exist — all non-Jewish souls originate from one of three satanic spheres, whereas Jewish souls originate from holiness.
* The universe was created for the sake of Jews, and the role of all non-Jews is to serve Jews.

Also cited by Shahak and Mezvinsky was that Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh, a leading member of the Habad Hasids, proposed that if a Jew needs a liver, it is permissible to take the life of an innocent non-Jew to obtain that liver. "Jewish life has an infinite value," he explains. ....."

www.cephas-library.com/nw...oachide_judge_and_...[not the full URL]

THE MEROVINGIAN ANCESTRY OF THE of 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. PART II ......
Flanked by fellow Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, McCain noted ......McCain received funding from the Rothschilds in England and orders from headquarters—the Prieuré de Sion, aka B'nai B'rith, in Paris.

http://watch.pair.com/dragon-lineage-2.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-10   11:30:50 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rack42, all (#0)

I don't think this is really anything new.


"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-10   17:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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