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Title: America The Apostate
Source: The Fire Eater
URL Source: http://www.fireeater.org/Pages/Vol_I_2010/americaApostate.html
Published: Mar 7, 2010
Author: Al Benson Jr.
Post Date: 2010-03-12 00:59:54 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 101
Comments: 5

I can remember talking to a Christian lady several years ago now, back in the 1980s, when she told me she felt that revival was just around the corner. I couldn’t see it then. I still can’t. A short time after the 9/11 situation, I read comments from a former television evangelist, stating that he thought America was in the midst of the greatest spiritual revival in our lifetime. I literally cringed as I read his comments. My first gut reaction was “You’ve got to be kidding, right?” I wondered briefly if he and I were living in the same America. If this man could interpret scads of people running up Yankee flags and singing “God Bless America” as revival, then I’m afraid he and I were and are not on the same page. Moreover, if this man’s thinking is reflective of the Church at large, then we have even more troubles than we thought we had.

Unless I’ve missed the boat somewhere, I don’t think much has changed spiritually in America. People of all religions can get together and sing “God Bless America,” but what (and whose) “god” are they singing to? Unless the one, true God of the universe and His Son, Jesus Christ, are openly acknowledged, all this stuff that has been going on has been in vain. Only last year, I heard a preacher ask the question “Does the God mentioned on your dollar bill have a Son?” It was a good question. If the answer is negative then, again, we are all wasting our time. As the old Southerner says, “It ain’t worth doodly-squat.”

Lets face it, We don’t really know our history. Of course most folks educated in Marx’s government schools don’t-—and that’s one of the reasons for the government schools. America has a lot of apostate history in her background, all manner of things our so-called history books will never bother to touch on. Our “historians” think we are better off if we don’t know this stuff, and most preachers, if they know, won’t touch any of this. lest they offend someone in some apostate group somewhere. And, in many cases, they just flat-out don’t know the history either.

We’ve had lots of apostasy in “high places” in our history. After all, didn’t St. Hilary (Klinton) claim to converse with Eleanor Roosevelt (about cattle futures, no doubt)? Didn’t Nancy Reagan consult astrologers? And wasn’t Mary Todd Lincoln (and possibly her husband, you know, the “honest” one) also into spiritualism?

God warned, in Leviticus 19:31, “Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.” And in the same book, in chapter 20, verse 6, He continued, in regard to those taking part in such practices; “I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among the people.”

Our history, if we bother to check it out instead of taking someone else’s word for it, is replete with documentation showing that by the 1830s and 1840s much of the Northern part of this country had apostasized and rejected the Reformation truths that were our bedrock foundation. Only in the South were things moving in a positive direction theologically (which may give you some indication as to the real, foundational, reason for the War of Northern Aggression. Mostly apostate Unitarianism had invaded the New England states over a generation earlier, and Unitarian thinking had spread to the Mid-Atlantic and upper Mid-Western states. Its adherents tried to make some inroads into the South, but had very little success there compared to other areas. Clergymen in the South had long ago warned their congregations against this sort of thing, and against utopian views of human nature, and so the South was skeptical, thankfully.

Along with Unitarianism came the radical Abolitionist Movement, the Feminist Movement, the Public School Movement, and all manner of movements. In 1848 the Spiritualist Movement hit the United States—ironically in the same year that socialist and communist revolutionaries staged their revolts in Europe. These revolts eventually provided Mr. Lincoln with many major generals for his armies. Were there connections between all these various “movements?” You’d better believe it. They interlocked like a jigsaw puzzle. And the one connection for all of them was apostasy from the Christian faith.

The Unitarians, having rejected Scriptural truth, and being apostate, were not exempt from the effects of spiritualism. One Unitarian minister, Harvard-trained Herman Snow, published a volume on “Spirit Intercourse.” He pastored a Unitarian congregation that was well aware of his spiritualist leanings, but kept him on anyway. Abolitionist Theodore Parker’s Unitarian congregation included a practicing medium amongst its choir members. According to the book “Radical Spirits” by Ann Braude (Beacon Press, Boston) the spiritualists were completely individualistic ( or more properly, completely antinomian—against God’s law). In her book Braude stated: “The emphatic individualism that placed spiritualists in opposition to established religion had social and political implications as well. Dependent for spiritual knowledge on the unhindered autonomy of female mediums, believers vigorously applied the principles of individualism to the role of women. As a result, they became ardent advocates of women’s rights.” Braude further stated: “From this time on, spiritualism and women’s rights intertwined repeatedly as both became movements that challenged the existing norms of American life.” Eventually this produced leaders in the 20th century “Women’s Lib” movement who turned out to be Communists.

In short, America, since the late 1700s, has had a history of gradually growing apostasy, especially in the North, and this apostasy is responsible for many of our national problems.

Contrary to what some televangelists and others may have said over the years, I see few signs of true spiritual revival in America (and I would dearly love to be wrong here). I see, instead, some sort of judgment descending upon America before things turn around. This country rejected the Christ of the Bible and the clear teachings of Scripture, and that process was begun long before any of us alive today had even been thought about. We are awash in multiculturalism, “diversity,” and a whole bunch of other “isms” with little sign of change in sight. During our First War of Independence, in 1776, many preachers had the clear insight to lead their people in our fight for independence—some even carrying muskets on the battlefield. Today, most of our preachers have such a perverted perspective on Romans 13 that they would not be capable of such action—and besides, it might appear “unloving” to resist our enemies! National repentance is our only hope and, in the main, the churches don’t seem to be too concerned about that. Until they are, no real improvement will be forthcoming.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

Revivals have nothing to do with real spiritual development whicj does require at least a minimum of intellect and quite a bit of moral integrity both of which are completely lacking in the evangelists I have seen.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2010-03-12   2:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15, Horse, all (#0)

Excellent sit-rep. Thanks.

Our country is circling the drain.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-12   9:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Thanks for introducing this website. It looks good to this Southerner who never has had rancorous feelings toward Northerners, but who is long- disappointed in realizing theirs toward us......

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick ('uniter' = G.W.)

Bub  posted on  2010-03-12   10:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

Our history, if we bother to check it out instead of taking someone else’s word for it, is replete with documentation showing that by the 1830s and 1840s much of the Northern part of this country had apostasized and rejected the Reformation truths that were our bedrock foundation. Only in the South were things moving in a positive direction theologically (which may give you some indication as to the real, foundational, reason for the War of Northern Aggression. Mostly apostate Unitarianism had invaded the New England states over a generation earlier, and Unitarian thinking had spread to the Mid-Atlantic and upper Mid-Western states. Its adherents tried to make some inroads into the South, but had very little success there compared to other areas. Clergymen in the South had long ago warned their congregations against this sort of thing, and against utopian views of human nature, and so the South was skeptical, thankfully.

Along with Unitarianism came the radical Abolitionist Movement, the Feminist Movement, the Public School Movement, and all manner of movements. In 1848 the Spiritualist Movement hit the United States—ironically in the same year that socialist and communist revolutionaries staged their revolts in Europe. These revolts eventually provided Mr. Lincoln with many major generals for his armies. Were there connections between all these various “movements?” You’d better believe it. They interlocked like a jigsaw puzzle. And the one connection for all of them was apostasy from the Christian faith.

The Unitarians, having rejected Scriptural truth, and being apostate, were not exempt from the effects of spiritualism. One Unitarian minister, Harvard-trained Herman Snow, published a volume on “Spirit Intercourse.” He pastored a Unitarian congregation that was well aware of his spiritualist leanings, but kept him on anyway. Abolitionist Theodore Parker’s Unitarian congregation included a practicing medium amongst its choir members. According to the book “Radical Spirits” by Ann Braude (Beacon Press, Boston) the spiritualists were completely individualistic ( or more properly, completely antinomian—against God’s law). In her book Braude stated: “The emphatic individualism that placed spiritualists in opposition to established religion had social and political implications as well. Dependent for spiritual knowledge on the unhindered autonomy of female mediums, believers vigorously applied the principles of individualism to the role of women. As a result, they became ardent advocates of women’s rights.” Braude further stated: “From this time on, spiritualism and women’s rights intertwined repeatedly as both became movements that challenged the existing norms of American life.” Eventually this produced leaders in the 20th century “Women’s Lib” movement who turned out to be Communists.

In short, America, since the late 1700s, has had a history of gradually growing apostasy, especially in the North, and this apostasy is responsible for many of our national problems.

WAY too much to comment on this piece. I was thinking all these things myself when I got up at 4:30 in the morning to see if there was any good news and ran into this.

I don't have time to do this piece justice [lucky for y'all], but the "Unitarianism" he talks about I believe came over on the Mayflower in 1620 with cryptoJews calling themselves "Pilgrims", "Puritans", "Separatists", and the like. [I think that is why when we hear about the religious founding of America, all we ever hear about is 1620, when the Pilgrims came over. We never hear about 1607 when the first colonists planted a cross at Jamestown and dedicated this country to Jesus Christ. I think that is what is up with something called "Justice 2020", probably when their Noahide Laws, which they claim is the "rock" on which this nation is founded will be in full swing (If God lets it get that far.)].

See

"...The Swiss and German Anabaptists:
The world was not ready for their message. And they were not prepared to compromise. The stand they took during the horrific and bloody Reformation Wars in their refusal to swear oaths of allegiance to political powers or to allow their children to be conscripted into Catholic or Reformist armies often cost them their lives. Their rejection of the sword was quite different from the church-state view embraced by the Roman Church, the Reformers, and the now dominant Anglo-American Puritans. This was truly radical Christianity. Their affirmation of the Kingdom of God in their Christian communion and community life is still seen today in Amish and Mennonite church life. It will be seen again in the 70th Week of Daniel, the final 7 years of this present age. This dramatic and superbly produced video addresses the crucial subject of "the cross vs. the sword" and the issue of "political protection vs. spiritual preservation". Western Christians will face this fork in the road as they come into the end-time drama. Will they stay on the Crusader/Puritan/Victorian path, the way of the sword? Or will they pass up onto the Pilgrim pathway the highway of holiness?....."

endtimepilgrim.org / endtimepilgrim.org/puritans10.htm / endtimepilgrim.org/puritans.htm

[I believe those "pilgrims" and "puritans" and "separatists" et al were different wings of the same bird of prey. George Bush's ancestors came over as Separatists on the Mayflower. The definition of "Pharisee" in the Bible is a religious SEPARATIST.]

Very revealing article:

ANABAPTIST UNITARIANS
It seems there were a significant number of Anabaptists who did not believe the Monophysite heresy but embraced the other extreme of denying the deity of Christ altogether, ... www.watch.pair.com/TR-15-anabaptist-unitarians.htm... [or is it www.watch.pair.com/TR-15-anabaptist-unitarians.html ?]

Several years ago, when I discovered the First Virginia Charter, I was comparing it with the Pilgrims' charter, and other charters, and while I have lost track of all my notes, it seems that there was trouble between the Northern and Southern colony from the get-go. The Northern colony complained about the Southern colony burning their "churches" and what-not. See the First Charter and see why that might have happened. Consequently the Northern colonies ceded themselves [or at least one of them] back to the Crown. I believe that was perhaps the first victory for the devil depicted in the battle in Psalm 2, and YES, I agree wholeheartedly that the real reason behind the war against the South was RELIGIOUS, Satan against Christ and His people. [Christ's people are throughout America, and the South has its share of apostates, but the South IS the Bible Belt, founded on a very different Rock than the North. I have read some Jewish writings where the Jews take credit for the Constitution, even bragging how the Noahide Laws were first written into the laws of the Massachusetts colony.]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. America is the New Israel/New Jerusalem. See Matthew 13 and Luke 13, for the characteristics of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven. America fulfills all of them. The "mustard seed" was planted at Cape Henry, and the "leaven" [Jesus: BEWARE THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES] followed shortly thereafter, and today it has "filled the whole lump", just as Cornwallis predicted to George Washington: A holy war will begin against America...her churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion.... and she will be working for divine government which is the [Judeo-] British Empire under the all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry". [and Freemasonry is Jewish].

Contrary to what some televangelists and others may have said over the years, I see few signs of true spiritual revival in America (and I would dearly love to be wrong here). I see, instead, some sort of judgment descending upon America before things turn around. This country rejected the Christ of the Bible and the clear teachings of Scripture, and that process was begun long before any of us alive today had even been thought about.

He may be right. The battle of Gog and Magog may be upon us [Ezekiel 38-39/Rev.20:7-9]. So many signs point to it.

The Latest:

US MILITARY TRAINS TO CLEAR ‘CIVILIAN’ HOMES
(KILL ALL INSIDE)
INTERVIEW WITH JOE CORTINA - EX GREEN BERET
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2010

www.realzionistnews.com/?p=484

He's talking about IN AMERICA.

[someone might want to start a thread on that one.]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-12   13:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

as Cornwallis predicted to George Washington: A holy war will begin against America...her churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion.... and she will be working for divine government which is the [Judeo-] British Empire under the all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry". [and Freemasonry is Jewish].

Another great article, pics, video at watch.pair.com :

THE SYNARCHY

“JUDEO-CHRISTIAN” THEOCRACY

FRONTS FOR INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL

“Synarchy...is ‘government by secret societies’,

or by a group of initiates who operate from behind the scenes.

It is an analogue of ‘theocracy’, or rule by a priesthood.”

~ Marquis Alexandre Saint-Yves d’Alveydre

PART III

THOMAS G. AYERS & BARACK OBAMA

“Our directorate must surround itself with...persons prepared by a special super-educational training in our special schools.... Needless to say that the talented assistants of authority, of whom I speak, will be taken not from among the goyim... De facto we have already wiped out every kind of rule except our own...” (Protocol 8.1; 9.2)

“The order of Bnai-Brith is an order of international Freemasonry reserved exclusively for Jews... It was founded in New York in 1813 but at present its headquarters are at Chicago... Nobody has cast doubt on the importance of the Bnai-Brith... There is moreover no candidate for the Presidency of the great American Republic who does not court the friendship of this order.” (Vicomte Leon De Poncins)

THE GODFATHER OF ILLINOIS POLITICS

CHICAGO’S JEWISH ELITE

OBAMA’S JEWISH ANCESTORS

BARACK OBAMA: ETHIOPIAN HEBREW..... [Tribe of Dan/Merovingian Bloodline]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-12   13:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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