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Title: Withdraw Consent
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URL Source: http://southernnationalcongress.org ... w_consent_brower20100103.shtml
Published: Mar 12, 2010
Author: Jeff Brower
Post Date: 2010-03-12 14:30:52 by X-15
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Comments: 13
It’s well known throughout the land that the South is the most Christian region of America. People call us “The Bible Belt,” either with affection or disdain. It’s equally well known that the South is the most openly patriotic region as well. But what happens when our patriotism trumps our Christianity? What happens when worship of God becomes perverted into worship of the state? What happens when we allow humanistic law to supplant God’s law as the foundation of civil government? I'll tell you what happens—corruption, injustice, and tyranny—exactly what we have today in America. When that happens, moral and just people must withdraw their consent. Otherwise, we become accessories in the crimes and abuses of the state. Many Christian Southerners are deeply confused over this simple, self-evident truth. Many pastors, who ought to be our spiritual leaders, are the worst offenders. You can often tell who they are. They’re the ones whose churches fly the American flag atop the Christian flag—that is, in a place of sovereignty. It would be wrong to symbolize the sovereignty of the state over the sovereignty of Christ even if our government were moral and just. But when government has degenerated into anti-Christian despotism, this practice is even more intolerable. Yet these are the same pastors who most often demand, “As a Christian, how can you advocate withdrawing consent? Romans 13 tells us to obey the governing authorities.” A correct reading of Romans 13 would pose the question, “How can we not withdraw our consent?” Romans 13 tells us the civil magistrate, or governing authority, is a minister of God. The civil magistrate receives his authority from God and, as His representative, has no other authority. If the magistrate operates outside of God’s authority, he is no longer a minister of God and His Law, but a minister of Satan. God established the civil magistrate to be His servant or representative on Earth to uphold just law and restrain evil-doers. What do we do when he does not espouse the law of God as his standard? Such a magistrate has declared himself to be autonomous, which means he seeks to be a “law unto himself.” For such a magistrate, legislation simply becomes a means to realize his personal ambitions, greed, and lust for power. Such a magistrate would be exhibiting the very definition of tyranny—ruling apart from the sanction of God. If we obey this earthly ruler absolutely, then we have established him as the ultimate sovereign in place of God’s sovereignty. Blind obedience to a magistrate who rules autonomously, even if our submission tries to assume a position of moral superiority, is a sin. (“I am obeying the wicked ruler as an act of sacrifice.”) God requires us to fear and obey the civil magistrate only insofar as the ruler himself fears and obeys God. In I Peter 2:13-15, we are again instructed to submit to the civil magistrates. However, we find in verse 17 the guiding principle under which this instruction is to be carried out—we must fear and obey God first. Here’s a classic illustration of the principle from the Old Testament: the Hebrew midwives were commanded by Pharoah, the civil magistrate of Egypt, to put to death the male children being born of Hebrew women. Exodus 1:17 tells us the midwives refused to obey the Pharoah’s direct command. They feared God and knew His law was sovereign over the command of the Pharoah. In contrast, today we tolerate the forcible murder of thousands of innocent children protected in the womb, arguably the most sacred place on earth. Is our tolerance seen by God as tacit approval? Should we obey such a wicked practice by paying taxes to the state responsible for this holocaust? Yet we do it. Why? Out of fear of punishment? Yet whom should we most fear? They midwives answered correctly, and we see that God showed His approval of their brave obedience in Exodus 1: 20-21: So God was good to the midwives and the people multiplied, and became very mighty. Because the midwives feared God, He established households for them. The Scriptures give us many other examples of God’s people disobeying the civil magistrates who have ceased to be servants of God or who issue commands in opposition to His Word. A principle is established that is consistent with every act of righteous disobedience to a wicked civil magistrate. The people of God didn’t just quietly sit on the fence to avoid having to make a choice. They did the exact opposite of the unGodly commands! To do less is to fear man rather than God. God is not fully obeyed unless we also do the complete opposite of tyranny. In Daniel 6, King Darius decreed that no one could pray to any god but himself. Daniel refused to obey because he knew Darius had no such jurisdiction. But Daniel went further than quiet disobedience. He immediately went to his rooftop, made sure all the windows were open for anyone to see, and prayed three times a day to God. In I Kings 18, Jezebel commanded that the prophets of God should be destroyed, yet Obadiah preserved a hundred prophets alive in a cave. He did not stop there in his resistance. He not only refrained from slaying them, but also cared for them with meat and drink. In Acts 4, the Apostles Peter and John were arrested and ordered by the rulers and elders of the people to stop preaching in the name of Jesus. They replied boldly, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to heed you rather than God, you be the judge; for we cannot stop speaking of what we have seen and heard.” Upon their release they immediately resumed leading worship and publicly preaching Christ with all confidence. In Acts 5:29, they are heard saying, “We must obey God rather than men.” It’s clear in Scripture that God not only holds individual men accountable for ignoring the evil acts of civil magistrates, but also holds His Church accountable. This is not good news for the “Obey the authorities in all things” crowd. Look at Leviticus 20:1-5 for a crystal clear example of how God responds to people who tolerate sin. Verse 5 says, “Then I Myself will set My face against that man and against his family, and I will cut off from among their people both him and all those who play the harlot after him, by playing the harlot after Molech.” We become harlots of the state when we choose to remain silent, thinking there is nothing we can do and voting for the lesser of two evils. Examples abound in Scripture of collective responsibility when the people tolerate unGodly rulers. We see that whenever Israel failed to oppose their king who had abandoned the service of God, He chastised them for their negligence, ignorance, and stupidity. All of King Saul’s men died with him on the battlefield. Judgment fell upon these men because they did not oppose Saul when he violated the Law of God, but instead applauded his wicked persecution of David and the priests of the Lord. When the evil King Manasseh defiled the temple (II Chronicles 33), God afflicted all the people as well as Manasseh. Why? To warn Israel that if they did not keep the king within the limit of his authority, they would all be guilty and suffer because they offered no resistance to tyranny. In Jeremiah 5:30 the prophet exclaimed, “The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule on their own authority; and My people love it so!” God promised terrible judgment, including the absolute destruction of Jerusalem because His people tolerated sin from the prophets, priests, and princes. In verse 4:22 God called His children “stupid” because they tolerated sin. Ultimately God holds his people accountable for the acts of evil rulers because of the principle of implied consent—thus their complicity—in the rulers' outrages and abuses. How far does the principle of withdrawing consent extend in Scripture? Even to the separation of a whole people from an unjust regime. II Chronicles 10 records the story of the new, inexperienced, and self-centered King Rehoboam, son of Solomon, and his reign of folly. As he applied the heavy hand of tyranny, the people rejected his reign. In verse 16 we see that “all Israel departed,” splitting the ancient kingdom into Judah and Israel. When King Rehoboam sent his deputy, Hadoram, to coerce them back under his authority, the sons of Israel stoned Hadoram to death. Verse 15 makes it clear this revolt was approved by God. Yes, Romans 13 instructs us, “Let every soul be subject to the governing authority.” Every soul. That means all men and necessarily includes the civil magistrates themselves. They are just as subject to the authority of God’s law and civil law as any other man. The President and Congress are just as subject to the rule of law as any private citizen. If they rob the governed, they are thieves and ought to be punished as thieves, the same as any private person. If they commit murder in the name of the state, they are murderers just the same. They are not exempt from God’s laws simply because they hold public office. Why do we tolerate the special privileges these tyrants grant themselves? Who is to blame but the politically lazy citizen unwilling to do the hard work of sustaining the republic? If we do not withdraw consent from such governments, we must suffer the same fate as tyrants’ subjects around the world who tolerate corruption for a handful of crumbs from the oligarchs’ table, and whose consent forges the chains of their servitude. I am not advocating that we take up arms and rush out in violent rebellion. Someday, someday soon in fact, it may be necessary and morally justified to defend ourselves in arms against the criminal state, but that day is not yet. If it does become necessary, it will not be we who are in rebellion, but the ruling class which has rebelled against the civil covenant and violated the declarations and laws which guarantee the basic rights of Southerners. The Scripture has much to say about how we should resist tyranny as well as making it clear that we should resist. But that must remain the subject of another article. First, we have to get our hearts and our minds right before the Lord. When the civil magistrate rules outside the sanction of God by violating His laws, we are no longer constrained to obey him. We must choose to obey God rather than men. We can hide from this responsibility behind a false teaching of Romans 13, or behind false teachers and preachers who ought to know better. Let us heed the call of the Southern National Congress, kneeling in intercession before a mighty, just, and sovereign God who holds the fate of our Southern nation in His hands. Then, as we continue in repentance and prayer, we must begin to Withdraw Consent from a government which has forfeited our allegiance by its rebellion against God; and which moreover has abrogated its own laws, the Constitution of the United States, refusing to be bound by it and to govern under its constraints.
Poster Comment: Overlook the parts about Israel, the gist of the article is about whether or not we should obey an unholy government.
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#1. To: X-15 (#0)
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
Old Testament Israel has no ethnic relationship to modern Jewry.
The World is being held hostage by an international terrorist organization best described as INTERNATIONAL (JEWISH) BANKERS. Their willing accomplices in government and media should swing from the rope just like the banking elites.
Great article. Another good example of righteous civil disobedience is the case of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. 1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon. 2 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. 3 Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. 4 Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages, 5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up: 6 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. 7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. 8 Wherefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and accused the Jews. 9 They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live for ever. 10 Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image: 11 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. 12 There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. 13 Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Then they brought these men before the king. 14 Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up? 15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands? 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. 17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. 18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. 19 Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated. 20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace. 21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. 22 Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flames of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. 23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. 24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. 26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire. 27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them. 28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God. 29 Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort. 30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I am more concerned with when foreign powers trump our nation's sovereignty. This article is a attack on the people, attempting to guilt trip people into forsaking love of ones family, culture, community, religion and nation. While trying to force people to support globalism. So, X-15, you talk about what you are against. But what do you stand FOR? And so not to be a hypocrite, I am for my family, culture, community, religion and nation. In that order.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Pet peeve! Baptist churches are a big offender. Picture this on the altar. The Cross on the left [representing Ezekiel 17:1-6 (God as the First Eagle as in Exodus 19:4)/John 15:1-2] and this abomination of desolation??? [Ezekiel 17:7-10 (second eagle)/Matthew 15:13] on the right: [ Get That Gold Fringe (AND ROTHSCHILD EAGLE!) Off My Flag! http://www.apfn.org/_private/flag.htm AND GET THE FLAG OFF MY ALTAR!] What Is The Abomination Of Desolation As all scripture is given for example, something for the churches to consider: 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) ...... 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Hear hear! Biblical history is replete with examples otherwise. yup, and God said there would be days like this. 1 Samuel 8:4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah, 5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations. 6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD. 7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. 8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. 9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and show them the manner of the king that shall reign over them. 10 And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king. 11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots. 12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots. 13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers. 14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants. 15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants. 16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work. 17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants. 18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day. 19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us; 20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles. 21 And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD. 22 And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city. Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. 2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion. 3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money. 4 For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause. 5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed..... Ezekiel 33:10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live? 11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? .... bible.cc/ezekiel/33-11.htm
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
My top priorities are God, family, friends.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. A correct reading of Romans 13 would pose the question, “How can we not withdraw our consent?” Romans 13 tells us the civil magistrate, or governing authority, is a minister of God. The civil magistrate receives his authority from God and, as His representative, has no other authority. If the magistrate operates outside of God’s authority, he is no longer a minister of God and His Law, but a minister of Satan. Romans 13 Home Page i think you'll appreciate this.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
At least we know where each other stands.
Wrong, go to the source. So, X-15, you talk about what you are against. But what do you stand FOR? First, an independent Texas that eschews Federal tyranny.
_________________________________________________________________________ That is always a good thing to know. I figure God deserves top priority since he is the Creator. To say God comes first does not diminish the love you have for your family and friends. It is just a recognition that he is in charge and created you, your family, and your friends. And he deserves top priority.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
#2. To: X-15 (#0)
Overlook the parts about Israel, the gist of the article is about whether or not we should obey an unholy government.
#3. To: X-15 (#0)
(Edited)
Lord Acton
#4. To: X-15 (#0)
But what happens when our patriotism trumps our Christianity?
#5. To: X-15 (#0)
#6. To: X-15 (#0)
(Edited)
Many pastors, who ought to be our spiritual leaders, are the worst offenders. You can often tell who they are. They’re the ones whose churches fly the American flag atop the Christian flag—that is, in a place of sovereignty.
He explains the wing (“overspreadingâ€33;) of abominations to be the Roman ensigns ( eagles) brought to the east gate of the temple, and there sacrificed to by ... www.abomination-of-desolation.com/
#7. To: Eric Stratton, X-15 (#5)
But what happens when our patriotism trumps our Christianity? What happens when worship of God becomes perverted into worship of the state? What happens when we allow humanistic law to supplant God’s law as the foundation of civil government? I'll tell you what happens—corruption, injustice, and tyranny—exactly what we have today in America.
#8. To: PaulCJ (#4)
And so not to be a hypocrite, I am for my family, culture, community, religion and nation. In that order.
Lord Acton
#9. To: X-15 (#0)
It would be wrong to symbolize the sovereignty of the state over the sovereignty of Christ even if our government were moral and just. But when government has degenerated into anti-Christian despotism, this practice is even more intolerable. Yet these are the same pastors who most often demand, “As a Christian, how can you advocate withdrawing consent? Romans 13 tells us to obey the governing authorities.”
..... whatever government you are under, you need to just go along with the program. Well, is that really what Romans 13 is teaching? ... romans13.embassyofheaven.com/
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#8)
My top priorities are God, family, friends.
#11. To: PaulCJ (#4)
This article is a attack on the people, attempting to guilt trip people into forsaking love of ones family, culture, community, religion and nation. While trying to force people to support globalism.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: PaulCJ (#10)
At least we know where each other stands.
Lord Acton
#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)
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