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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#2. To: wudidiz (#0)

There is nothing in the volume or color of the visible gases that is unusual in these trails. I've seen them many times aloft and from the ground. At one point the trails flair out dramatically, but if you look closely, you can see that this is because the aircraft is descending.

If there a sinister forces involved in this at all, it may be to the extent that the chemtrail story is aimed at exciting fear at the most primitive level. It may be part of a psyop to keep the population off-balance.

Have a Camel. Relax.

randge  posted on  2010-03-13   16:36:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge (#2)

There is nothing in the volume or color of the visible gases that is unusual in these trails. I've seen them many times aloft and from the ground.

I really don't know how to argue with that, except that it's not condensation. I've seen them many times too in the last 10+ years.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-13   16:48:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wudidiz (#4)

How do you know that?

randge  posted on  2010-03-13   16:51:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5)

My Dad was a fighter pilot. He went on to be an airline pilot. I went to many airshows and he told me a lot about airplanes. I had a habit of always watching the sky as airplanes went by and knew my planes quite well. That's not to say I'm an expert by any means. But I knew what a contrail was from an early age. They would follow the airliners across the sky only a few lengths behind. They are condensation from engine exhaust. Therefore the name 'con-trails'. They would always dissipate quickly as contrails do. There's simply not enough condensation from the exhaust for them to remain visible for long. Beginning in the mid to late 90s these chemtrails started appearing. They increased in number much after 9/11. There's not a chance in hell that those long trails we see left in the sky by some airliners now are condensation. Simply physically impossible.

I don't know how I can explain it any better really. If you honestly want to know about this with an open mind, I suggest you research it on the Internet. There's no shortage of information about chemtrails. Not all of it true of course.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-13   17:03:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: wudidiz, randge (#6)

My Dad was a fighter pilot. He went on to be an airline pilot. I went to many airshows and he told me a lot about airplanes. I had a habit of always watching the sky as airplanes went by and knew my planes quite well. That's not to say I'm an expert by any means. But I knew what a contrail was from an early age. They would follow the airliners across the sky only a few lengths behind. They are condensation from engine exhaust. Therefore the name 'con-trails'. They would always dissipate quickly as contrails do. There's simply not enough condensation from the exhaust for them to remain visible for long. Beginning in the mid to late 90s these chemtrails started appearing. They increased in number much after 9/11. There's not a chance in hell that those long trails we see left in the sky by some airliners now are condensation. Simply physically impossible.

I don't know how I can explain it any better really. If you honestly want to know about this with an open mind, I suggest you research it on the Internet. There's no shortage of information about chemtrails. Not all of it true of course.

I was interested in planes and aeronautics from the time I was in diapers, and as well my father was pilot. Because of that I used to look at the contrails when I was a kid 30-40 years ago and was always disappointed when they were not visible. You see the air conditions have to be just right and the plane at the right altitude for them to form.

A standard contrail forming from natural physical processes has only a short persistence - maybe 20 minutes - 30 tops.

The Chemtrails we see today, which first began in the late 80's to early 90's are qualitatively different from a standard contrail.

A standard contrail is formed from water vapor and temperature and as such quickly dissipates with temperature and time.

A Chemtrail by contrast has the characteristic of persistence i.e., they will persist well beyond the 20 to 30 minutes of a standard contrail and will spread to create a thin haze. When they are really busy at it I have seen them horizon to horizon counting a minimum of 13 Chemtrails. For an uncommon phenomenon, contrails, that is rather phenomenal.

Here is a website where the phenomena is thoroughly documented and explored: Clifford Carnicom

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-13   17:33:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#13)

The Chemtrails we see today, which first began in the late 80's to early 90's are qualitatively different from a standard contrail.

how do you tell a persistent contrail or contrail cirrus clouds from "chemtrails"?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-13   17:39:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: groundresonance, wudidiz, randge (#14)

A standard contrail looks more vaporous to begin with and as you watch the plane move across the sky you will see the trail disappearing before it makes the full circuit horizon to horizon. Only very rarely will a contrail aid in the formation of a clouds of any kind - generally they just rapidly fade. I would suggest that the "Contrail Cirrus" is a term inserted into the debate as disinformation to attempt to discredit the observers who have been blowing the whistle on Chemtrails. You will find very little if anything about "Contrail Cirrus" prior to the advent of people noticing the existence of Chemtrails.

What's the difference between a jet contrail and a chemtrail? Link to Source - "Your Life As A Human Test Subject"

According to the U.S. Air Force, jet contrails form above 33,000 feet when hot engine exhaust momentarily condenses ice crystals into pencil-thin vapor trails that quickly vanish like the wake behind a boat.

Chemtrails (CTs) look like contrails initially, but are much thicker, extend across the sky and are often laid down in varying patterns of Xs, tick-tack-toe grids, cross-hatched and parallel lines. Instead of quickly dissipating, chemtrails expand and drip feathers and mare s tails. In 30 minutes or less, they open into wispy formations which join together, forming a thin white veil or a "fake cirrus-type cloud" that persists for hours.

In August 2000, chemtrail watchers began to report "more normal" appearing or nearly invisible jet sprays. However, these reports go on to include cloud formations dripping the feathers and mare s tails just as the chemtrails do. It s our belief that the operation has adjusted the chemtrail mix as word about the phenomenon is spreading and as more and more people are looking up. Observant chemtrail watchers continue to see the "fake cirrus-type clouds" on top of and surrounding real cumulus clouds.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-13   17:52:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#17)

if winds aloft are 100 mph, and two planes, flying crosswind on the same heading, cross through the exact same airspace at 15 minute intervals, what's gonna happen to their contrails?

how many miles will their contrails be apart...

hint: what's 100 divided by four?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-13   17:59:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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