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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#281. To: groundresonance (#280)
...or are you saying that doctors are so corrupt, worldwide, that they arent raising cain? Yes and... Yes.
you think all doctors are so corrupt, as a group, that not one of them will come forward to protest "chemtrail" poisoning, supposing for the sake of argument that it existed.
Well, if you are testing a big plane, invite a huge weight watcher's group and make sure they are hungry. Then have a fast and fit man with a chocolate cake run up and down the inside of the plane with them in chase. Of course, if they caused the plane to crash due to stampede control problems, you'd have to put survivors on trial and hope the Dan White twinkie defense gets them off with only manslaughter.
i think pumping water back and forth might be easier and maybe even cheaper... unless you could pay the fat folks in chocolate cake.
you ever get hit by a retardant drop?
Heehee, good answer. I used to hve to caculate weight and balance as a helicopter crew chief in the Army. Here is a link to some of the terms used. WEIGHT AND BALANCE TERMS AND DEFINITIONS They are interesting and serve to give a taste of the subject enough to let one know there is a big class in physics involved when you talk about understanding calculating weight and balance on an aircraft. I would feel nervous on any aircraft experimenting with weight and balance that way. Personally I would prefer to be in the ground in front of a screen playing with computer weight and balance software than being up there trusting the computers and equipment were doing everything properly doing that sort of test flight.
Nope. I was a tree planter the same time I fought fires and was in very good shape and am very aircraft aware. I know what a retardant drop plane and it's spotter looks like, and I know the track they run doing drops. I have yelled "RETARDANT!" while diving for a leaner tree where I escaped the drench and watched the green, newbies get a bath. Nasty stuff. No, as an aircraft familiar person I have nearly been hurt at spike camp when a helicopter punched off it's swing load hook and long cable near me when I was ground guiding a craft to drop supplies from a high performance hover, out of ground effect. And I had a Bell 212 crash into a truck I was standing next to scaring the piss out of me as I swam in the road gravel after dropping to my belly as trained in the Army. The main rotor ground into the road eight feet from my legs. That was a Weyerhauser bird, I was working on a forest fertilization contract when that happened
yeah, it's nice to have the load in the right place in the helicopter. there was this driller, must have weighed close to 300 pounds, used to like to sit as far in the back as he could, and i'd be bumping the forward stop on the cyclic when i tried to nose over... s55T then there were the alouette IIIs, and empty with a lightweight pilot, you'd hit the foward stop on the cyclic, too.
lots of iron in the air when a helicopter crashes... or at least, stuff that would feel like iron if it got you at a couple hundred miles an hour. not good.
I enjoyed being a crew chief on a UH-1H and had pilots that I really enjoyed having fly my bird, 70-16450, and others that were scary. Slick ships doing air mobile work are forgiving of load variances. I had the back up command console bird, and it was when I had the equipment and dumb butter bar officers were on board I had to do the DD Form 365-4 figuring out weight and balance. Although, getting the shave tailed Lts not to screw up my radios, and to listen to my instructions as a buck sergeant was a bigger head ache usually. The UH-1H has two positions to mount the 48 lb NiCad battery to adjust the weight and balance, that's about it for that old a bird.
it's a wonder anyone survived.
It was not fun. They have a tractor tail rotor that has a unique sound to my ear more used to standard tail rotor design equiped Hueys. The pilot did too fast a petal turn with a heavy swing load while transitioning from a high hover to forward flight. I heard the roter zip off and hit the ground before I looked. I have had close calls before and I respect what can happen. I am not ashamed to say I pissed in my pants when I thought it was about to hit me. Though in my defense, I was the first on the bird jettisoning the pilot's door, helping him get the inertia reel harness off of him and to help him get out. He was a Vietnam war vet pilot, head of Weyco aviation's pilots. A reall hot dog of a pilot. He got some nice bruises from that. He had crashed OH-6 helicopters a couple of times whle in the service.
dale?
Do you know of one that's come forward to protest?
what if there's nothing to protest?
There is.
that's what you apparently believe, but there doesnt seem to be any evidence. and you're so dead set on believing in "chemtrails" that you're willing to believe every doctor in the world is willing to sweep "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. that seems to be kinda unlikely, to me.
Howard, big burley sort of guy. This happened near Allegany Oregon way up into coastal Weyco forest a ways into the 5000 line. They later replaced the 214 with used one. They are a nice version of the Huey, but that's a tight fit for that twin pack of a opair of free power turbine engines. And the pre-coned, underslung and semi rigid main rotor is dry, and like the 540 rotor of Colbras. The biggest gripe I had with our grips was how the seals would degrade, oiling out the top of the bird. teflon bearings is definately the best way to go with those birds.
This is one of the best threads I have ever read; I have it bookmarked which is very rare for me. Thank you, all.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
that's what you apparently believe, but there doesnt seem to be any evidence. and you're so dead set on believing in "chemtrails" that you're willing to believe every doctor in the world is willing to sweep "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. that seems to be kinda unlikely, to me. It took nearly 9 years for Architects and Engineers to begin speaking up in any volume on all of the impossibilities of the government's 911 Fairy Tale, and they are nowhere as near as dependent on the good graces of government as are Doctors. As well Doctors live in a very insular world and if it is not published in one of their journals, or told them by a Big Pharma Rep., most of them simply will not see or acknowledge anything outside of their, in many ways, limited world view.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
All of what you say is true, but the websites that some of you have posted say things like "testing for barium was carried out," but it doesn't say by whom or under what auspices. The footnotes contain references to encyclopedia articles and such. That doesn't inspire much confidence. When someone like Mr. Dirt makes a positive assertion like "There were Arabs on those planes," or "The hijacker's names are on the flight manifests," I look for positive evidence to support the claim. I really don't see it here. I have an open mind, but I want to see more than what I see here. Instead of pushing the gov't shill button, you guys need to work a bit harder on presenting solid evidence.
educate-yourself.org/ct/goodbyects10jan02.shtml You call this loony tunes?!?!? LOL! The fix only requires some copper pipe, crystals and resin. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or I remember when the sky was a much clearer color of blue. Where there's no evidence, is there no crime?
you believe doctors everywhere are so corrupt that they are, in violation of their hippocratic oath, sweeping "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. you must have a very low opinion of humanity. yet you say your wife is pregnant again, seven months after she gave birth to a child. what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future? have you no self-control?
I know what a contrail looks like and I know what I have seen. You are free, and welcome, to dispute any chemical analysis of the residue. However, I trust my own awareness and observational abilities and I am neither undeducated nor stupid. So, agree or disagree as is your prerogative, but do not try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. Some planes produce contrails, and some produce that phenomena we call Chemtrails. That something is going on, and that there is a program of spraying "something" is in my mind undeniable as I have seen it on more than one occasion. Some of those occasions have literally covered the sky from horizon to horizon with wispy persistent trails that spread and combine into a hazy layer setting in the atmosphere for hours on end. That is not a known or normal characteristic of a normal contrail which consists of ice crystals only which rapidly dissipate as the crystals melt. The phenomenon known as Chemtrails does exist, and it appears to be part of an ongoing program/project of some kind. I am not privy to the inner workings of such, apparently, government sponsored and produced programs, but I can observe that it is taking place. Make of it as you will, believe the denials and the so-called debunkers and disinformation specialists if you please, but that does not change the reality one whit.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
you believe doctors everywhere are so corrupt that they are, in violation of their hippocratic oath, sweeping "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. you must have a very low opinion of humanity. yet you say your wife is pregnant again, seven months after she gave birth to a child. what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future? have you no self-control? You have learned well young Sith. Crush their spirit, make them feel worthless and in awe of your magnificence. Destroy that which is good, and seek to increase your power on the wreckage you hope to create. Begone back to the Hell from which you have sprung. Your evil and vileness are not welcome.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I haven't read anything by any debunkers or disinfo artists on this topic, mostly because I haven't really had much interest in this subject and haven't really thought about it much. Don't see to much in the sky where I live to cause me alarm or suspicion, but I'll be looking skywards now and then to see what I can see. I ain't here to dis you, and I look forward to anything more you have to post on this topic.
Thanks. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The longevity of both men and women in the US has been increasing. So, what on Earth are chem-trails all about beyond just water vapor?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
now all you got to decide is what the "chemtrails" are about... are they intended to shade the planet and reduce the effects of global warming? ...oh, but global warming cant be the reason for "chemtrails", because global warming, despite the hundreds of billions of tons of extra greenhouse gases deposited by humanity, doesnt exist. so the "chemtrails" must be intended to kill us off... ...except that nobody's coming forward with evidence of increased mortality due to "chemtrail" spraying... so what is your massive "chemtrail" operation intended to accomplish? or maybe a better question would be: does this "chemtrail" phenomenon even exist outside the imagination of people who are making money by selling patent remedies for "chemtrail sickness", or are hyping their fringe websites?
Good post, O_I. You know, that clown filter Neil put on here really does work. Just sayin'.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I have drawn no final conclusions other than that you are pathologically dishonest - as witnessed by your attempt to put words in my mouth. I have said that I do believe Chemtrails to be a phenomena unique from contrails, and the body of empirical evidence, no matter how hard you try to wiggle, supports that. At no point have I offered even a speculation as to what their purpose might be. Since I am not privy to the inside workings of the program I have no firm conclusion as to their purpose. I could speculate, but will not. Speculation I reserve for sharing with minds that are open, honest, and inquisitive. That leaves you out.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
why is there no "empirical evidence" of "chemtrails" from reputable scientific bodies, doctors, mechanics, pilots and "chemtrail" infrastructure support people?
why, if you are so dead sure you're able to tell the difference between "chemtrails" and contrails, are you unable to estimate the number of "chemtrail" flights out of the maybe 90,000 flights per day in the US?
Show me where I said my children are facing a dismal future?
Leave my wife and children out of this. And... Fuck off you low-life piece of shit scumbag before I begin to obsess over making your life a living nightmare.
ah. good. so you think the evil "chemtrail" conspiracy will be overcome by the forces of good in time for your children to lead normal, healthy, happy lives. in view of the complete absence of traction the "chemtrail" theory is getting in government, what makes you so optimistic?
Young friend, the one who goes by the designation groundresonance posts purely for the purposes of agitation and aggravation. Hie thyself off to the setup page and avail thyself of the wondrous clown filter. Posts of said varlet will disappear as if by magick.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#282. To: wudidiz (#281)
#283. To: groundresonance (#277)
"how would you shift the center of gravity of an airplane on a test flight, other than having tanks plumbed up to pump water back and forth?"
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#284. To: Ferret (#283)
if you are testing a big plane
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"you ever get hit by a retardant drop?"
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#288. To: Ferret (#286)
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WEIGHT AND BALANCE
#289. To: Ferret (#287)
Bell 212 crash into a truck
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#291. To: Ferret (#290)
butter bar officers
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"lots of iron in the air when a helicopter crashes... or at least, stuff that would feel like iron if it got you at a couple hundred miles an hour."
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#293. To: Ferret (#292)
Weyco aviation's pilots
#294. To: groundresonance (#282)
you think all doctors are so corrupt, as a group, that not one of them will come forward to protest "chemtrail" poisoning, supposing for the sake of argument that it existed.
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#295. To: wudidiz (#294)
Do you know of one that's come forward to protest?
#296. To: groundresonance (#295)
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#297. To: wudidiz (#296)
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There is.
#298. To: groundresonance (#297)
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
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#300. To: wudidiz, ground resonance, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, randge, Lod, Artisan, Ferret, all (#232)
Wow, I never expected this thread to get more than a few comments.
#301. To: groundresonance, wudidiz (#297)
There is.
#302. To: Original_Intent (#301)
#303. To: groundresonance (#273)
why are "chemtrails" such a loonytunes operation?
die kill ~~ Me
#304. To: randge, Original_Intent (#302)
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#305. To: wudidiz (#304)
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I have a seven month old baby and the wife's pregnant again and is perpetually hungry and I have to go to work to make money to buy food. I'm passing the torch to you ;-)
#306. To: randge, wudidiz, all (#302)
#307. To: groundresonance, wudidiz (#305)
I have a seven month old baby and the wife's pregnant again and is perpetually hungry and I have to go to work to make money to buy food. I'm passing the torch to you ;-)
#308. To: Original_Intent (#306)
Make of it as you will, believe the denials and the so-called debunkers and disinformation specialists if you please, but that does not change the reality one whit.
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#310. To: Original_Intent (#306)
I trust my own awareness and observational abilities
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#312. To: wudidiz, groundresonance, Original Intent (#310)
Life expectancy for Americans, around 49 years in 1900, has increased over the past century to about 76, thanks to improvements in health care, nutrition, and the overall standard of living for most people. Furthermore, demographic projections suggest that life expectancy for men and women who maintain the healthiest lifestyle patterns will continue to increase. In fact, centenarians (persons 100 years of age and older) are the fastest-growing segment of our population.
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42 unique top-ten pages selected from at least 4,129,350 matching results - on Chemtrails.
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Lord Acton
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#316. To: Original_Intent (#315)
body of empirical evidence
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#318. To: groundresonance (#305)
what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future?
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
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"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#320. To: wudidiz (#318)
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Show me where I said my children are facing a dismal future?
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Lord Acton
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