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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#298. To: groundresonance (#297)
Howard, big burley sort of guy. This happened near Allegany Oregon way up into coastal Weyco forest a ways into the 5000 line. They later replaced the 214 with used one. They are a nice version of the Huey, but that's a tight fit for that twin pack of a opair of free power turbine engines. And the pre-coned, underslung and semi rigid main rotor is dry, and like the 540 rotor of Colbras. The biggest gripe I had with our grips was how the seals would degrade, oiling out the top of the bird. teflon bearings is definately the best way to go with those birds.
This is one of the best threads I have ever read; I have it bookmarked which is very rare for me. Thank you, all.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
that's what you apparently believe, but there doesnt seem to be any evidence. and you're so dead set on believing in "chemtrails" that you're willing to believe every doctor in the world is willing to sweep "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. that seems to be kinda unlikely, to me. It took nearly 9 years for Architects and Engineers to begin speaking up in any volume on all of the impossibilities of the government's 911 Fairy Tale, and they are nowhere as near as dependent on the good graces of government as are Doctors. As well Doctors live in a very insular world and if it is not published in one of their journals, or told them by a Big Pharma Rep., most of them simply will not see or acknowledge anything outside of their, in many ways, limited world view.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
All of what you say is true, but the websites that some of you have posted say things like "testing for barium was carried out," but it doesn't say by whom or under what auspices. The footnotes contain references to encyclopedia articles and such. That doesn't inspire much confidence. When someone like Mr. Dirt makes a positive assertion like "There were Arabs on those planes," or "The hijacker's names are on the flight manifests," I look for positive evidence to support the claim. I really don't see it here. I have an open mind, but I want to see more than what I see here. Instead of pushing the gov't shill button, you guys need to work a bit harder on presenting solid evidence.
educate-yourself.org/ct/goodbyects10jan02.shtml You call this loony tunes?!?!? LOL! The fix only requires some copper pipe, crystals and resin. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or I remember when the sky was a much clearer color of blue. Where there's no evidence, is there no crime?
you believe doctors everywhere are so corrupt that they are, in violation of their hippocratic oath, sweeping "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. you must have a very low opinion of humanity. yet you say your wife is pregnant again, seven months after she gave birth to a child. what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future? have you no self-control?
I know what a contrail looks like and I know what I have seen. You are free, and welcome, to dispute any chemical analysis of the residue. However, I trust my own awareness and observational abilities and I am neither undeducated nor stupid. So, agree or disagree as is your prerogative, but do not try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. Some planes produce contrails, and some produce that phenomena we call Chemtrails. That something is going on, and that there is a program of spraying "something" is in my mind undeniable as I have seen it on more than one occasion. Some of those occasions have literally covered the sky from horizon to horizon with wispy persistent trails that spread and combine into a hazy layer setting in the atmosphere for hours on end. That is not a known or normal characteristic of a normal contrail which consists of ice crystals only which rapidly dissipate as the crystals melt. The phenomenon known as Chemtrails does exist, and it appears to be part of an ongoing program/project of some kind. I am not privy to the inner workings of such, apparently, government sponsored and produced programs, but I can observe that it is taking place. Make of it as you will, believe the denials and the so-called debunkers and disinformation specialists if you please, but that does not change the reality one whit.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
you believe doctors everywhere are so corrupt that they are, in violation of their hippocratic oath, sweeping "chemtrail" deaths under the rug. you must have a very low opinion of humanity. yet you say your wife is pregnant again, seven months after she gave birth to a child. what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future? have you no self-control? You have learned well young Sith. Crush their spirit, make them feel worthless and in awe of your magnificence. Destroy that which is good, and seek to increase your power on the wreckage you hope to create. Begone back to the Hell from which you have sprung. Your evil and vileness are not welcome.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I haven't read anything by any debunkers or disinfo artists on this topic, mostly because I haven't really had much interest in this subject and haven't really thought about it much. Don't see to much in the sky where I live to cause me alarm or suspicion, but I'll be looking skywards now and then to see what I can see. I ain't here to dis you, and I look forward to anything more you have to post on this topic.
Thanks. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The longevity of both men and women in the US has been increasing. So, what on Earth are chem-trails all about beyond just water vapor?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
now all you got to decide is what the "chemtrails" are about... are they intended to shade the planet and reduce the effects of global warming? ...oh, but global warming cant be the reason for "chemtrails", because global warming, despite the hundreds of billions of tons of extra greenhouse gases deposited by humanity, doesnt exist. so the "chemtrails" must be intended to kill us off... ...except that nobody's coming forward with evidence of increased mortality due to "chemtrail" spraying... so what is your massive "chemtrail" operation intended to accomplish? or maybe a better question would be: does this "chemtrail" phenomenon even exist outside the imagination of people who are making money by selling patent remedies for "chemtrail sickness", or are hyping their fringe websites?
Good post, O_I. You know, that clown filter Neil put on here really does work. Just sayin'.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I have drawn no final conclusions other than that you are pathologically dishonest - as witnessed by your attempt to put words in my mouth. I have said that I do believe Chemtrails to be a phenomena unique from contrails, and the body of empirical evidence, no matter how hard you try to wiggle, supports that. At no point have I offered even a speculation as to what their purpose might be. Since I am not privy to the inside workings of the program I have no firm conclusion as to their purpose. I could speculate, but will not. Speculation I reserve for sharing with minds that are open, honest, and inquisitive. That leaves you out.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
why is there no "empirical evidence" of "chemtrails" from reputable scientific bodies, doctors, mechanics, pilots and "chemtrail" infrastructure support people?
why, if you are so dead sure you're able to tell the difference between "chemtrails" and contrails, are you unable to estimate the number of "chemtrail" flights out of the maybe 90,000 flights per day in the US?
Show me where I said my children are facing a dismal future?
Leave my wife and children out of this. And... Fuck off you low-life piece of shit scumbag before I begin to obsess over making your life a living nightmare.
ah. good. so you think the evil "chemtrail" conspiracy will be overcome by the forces of good in time for your children to lead normal, healthy, happy lives. in view of the complete absence of traction the "chemtrail" theory is getting in government, what makes you so optimistic?
Young friend, the one who goes by the designation groundresonance posts purely for the purposes of agitation and aggravation. Hie thyself off to the setup page and avail thyself of the wondrous clown filter. Posts of said varlet will disappear as if by magick.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Thanks. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
Lets say there are intentional trace materials/compounds and so forth placed into "chemtrails." What is the reason for it in your opinion? This thread is too long not to speculate.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
But none of those other ways work quite as well.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I think it might be just a big scam in order that someone has the contracts to do this work. The amount of profit by a private company to carry out this operation must be an insane amount of money. The aluminum industry stands to benefit greatly from this as well. That and weather manipulation, sophisticated weaponry (scalar wave technology), in my opinion. Others speculate on such things as mind control, drugging the population, etc. I really don't know.
...and I really don't care. I just want it to stop.
what if atmospheric conditions, the laws of chemistry, and airplanes powered by internal combustion engines... what if all that makes it impossible to stop? what if "chemtrails" are a hoax, and short of stopping air traffic, there's no way of stopping contrails?
Data insufficient. We can observe on a qualitative basis that there is an observed phenomena, distinct from normal contrails, but there is insufficient data on the actual chemical composition. Chemicals such as Barium, Aluminum, and Titanium have been reported from private analysis. The composition could offer a suggestion as to the function but there seem to be conflicting analyses which suggests that: 1. The analyses were contaminated. OR 2. There is more than one program or function of the one program. Various speculations have been offered as to why but there is not a clear enough data set to weigh any one over another. The suggestions/speculations have included: 1. Weather Modification. 2. Increasing the power of HAARP by creating greater electromagnetic conduction in the atmosphere. and 3. Mitigation of Global Warming. One thing that sticks in my memory was that about 3, maybe 4, years ago a Congresscritter got motivated to include in a bill the requirement that the programs spraying disclose what they were spraying. Oddly the bill was killed and the Congresscritter, I forget which one, clammed up like nobody's business. That was one of those interesting little blips that make you look up and have a "hmmmmmmmmmm" moment. One of the things I have noticed, after being tipped off by someone else's comment, is that the heaviest spraying often occurs on the leading edge of a weather front. Why that would be I don't know, but it is a datum. However, that something is going on I can observe and note.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
and if these "chemtrails" are so harmless that you believe they wont harm your children, what difference does it make whether they stop, or not?
Oh, as annoying as it may be I like seeing what the disinfo posters are posting. It tells me what their masters are most concerned about. I have noticed that on most forums that there are a few topics that will bring the disinfo posters running as fast their chubby little feet will carry them. Chemtrails is one and some of the others are: 911 - particularly anything to do with the Pentagram bombing. Mind Control and Israel. No doubt that there are others on their list but those seem to be the priority topics.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I suspect you have greater tolerance for bs than I have. I am getting too old to read a lot of it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. what if atmospheric conditions, the laws of chemistry, and airplanes powered by internal combustion engines... what if all that makes it impossible to stop? what if "chemtrails" are a hoax, and short of stopping air traffic, there's no way of stopping contrails? What if your mother had an abortion?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Well, they give away a lot in the meandering dishonesty. That itself is data of a sort, and it tells me things I do want to know. As well I get to see what the latest disinfo line is as they try different ones to see if it "sticks".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
if you had any information with reputable provenance, you might have a leg to stand on... but apparently you're relying mostly on your own personal opinion, buttressed by quotes and urls from fringe websites. for instance... One of the things I have noticed, after being tipped off by someone else's comment, is that the heaviest spraying often occurs on the leading edge of a weather front. Why that would be I don't know, but it is a datum. i dont see a lot of reputable backup for those supposed "facts" or your conclusions.
if you're gonna convince anybody that you've got a case, you've got to give us something to go on, other than personal opinion... ...dont you? or are you somehow exempt from rational processes that eventually lead to the truth... assuming for the sake of argument that you're after the truth.
I am not hung up on having to have an "authority" tell me what I think. I am one of those odd critters you run into who can reach a conclusion based on the evidence alone. Novel idea that. I believe they call it "The Scientific Method".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I am one of those odd critters you run into who can reach a conclusion based on the evidence alone. too bad you cant produce any reputable evidence.
Where there's no evidence, is there no crime? Yeah, on 9/12/01 and about a week or so after that. The skies were blue. There is no evidence. There really isn't. I bet you didn't notice contrails at all until someone pointed them out to you by calling them chemtrails, then you started seeing them everywhere. That's what happened to me. You didn't notice them before because they are so common. That's all right though. I used to believe in them too. I don't anymore. If your mileage varies then that's OK. There's enough out there that we do agree on.
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"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#299. To: groundresonance (#293)
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#300. To: wudidiz, ground resonance, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, randge, Lod, Artisan, Ferret, all (#232)
Wow, I never expected this thread to get more than a few comments.
#301. To: groundresonance, wudidiz (#297)
There is.
#302. To: Original_Intent (#301)
#303. To: groundresonance (#273)
why are "chemtrails" such a loonytunes operation?
die kill ~~ Me
#304. To: randge, Original_Intent (#302)
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#305. To: wudidiz (#304)
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I have a seven month old baby and the wife's pregnant again and is perpetually hungry and I have to go to work to make money to buy food. I'm passing the torch to you ;-)
#306. To: randge, wudidiz, all (#302)
#307. To: groundresonance, wudidiz (#305)
I have a seven month old baby and the wife's pregnant again and is perpetually hungry and I have to go to work to make money to buy food. I'm passing the torch to you ;-)
#308. To: Original_Intent (#306)
Make of it as you will, believe the denials and the so-called debunkers and disinformation specialists if you please, but that does not change the reality one whit.
#309. To: randge (#308)
#310. To: Original_Intent (#306)
I trust my own awareness and observational abilities
#311. To: groundresonance (#310)
#312. To: wudidiz, groundresonance, Original Intent (#310)
Life expectancy for Americans, around 49 years in 1900, has increased over the past century to about 76, thanks to improvements in health care, nutrition, and the overall standard of living for most people. Furthermore, demographic projections suggest that life expectancy for men and women who maintain the healthiest lifestyle patterns will continue to increase. In fact, centenarians (persons 100 years of age and older) are the fastest-growing segment of our population.
#313. To: Original_Intent (#309)
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42 unique top-ten pages selected from at least 4,129,350 matching results - on Chemtrails.
#314. To: Original_Intent (#307)
Lord Acton
#315. To: groundresonance (#313)
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#316. To: Original_Intent (#315)
body of empirical evidence
#317. To: Original_Intent (#315)
#318. To: groundresonance (#305)
what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future?
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#319. To: groundresonance (#305)
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#320. To: wudidiz (#318)
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Show me where I said my children are facing a dismal future?
#321. To: wudidiz (#319)
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Lord Acton
#322. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent (#321)
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#323. To: wudidiz (#322)
#324. To: wudidiz (#322)
Thanks. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
Lord Acton
#325. To: buckeroo (#323)
Lets say there are intentional trace materials/compounds and so forth placed into "chemtrails." What is the reason for it in your opinion?
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#326. To: buckeroo, All (#325)
I really don't know...
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
#327. To: wudidiz (#326)
I just want it to stop.
#328. To: buckeroo (#312)
So, what on Earth are chem-trails all about beyond just water vapor?
#329. To: wudidiz (#326)
I just want it to stop.
#330. To: James Deffenbach (#321)
Young Sith, the one who goes by the designation groundresonance posts purely for the purposes of agitation and aggravation. Hie thyself off to the setup page and avail thyself of the wondrous clown filter. Posts of said varlet will disappear as if by magick.
#331. To: Original_Intent (#330)
Lord Acton
#332. To: groundresonance (#327)
I just want it to stop.
#333. To: James Deffenbach (#331)
I suspect you have greater tolerance for bs than I have. I am getting too old to read a lot of it.
#334. To: Original_Intent (#330)
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disinfo posters
One thing that sticks in my memory was that about 3, maybe 4, years ago a Congresscritter got motivated to include in a bill the requirement that the programs spraying disclose what they were spraying. Oddly the bill was killed and the Congresscritter, I forget which one, clammed up like nobody's business. That was one of those interesting little blips that make you look up and have a "hmmmmmmmmmm" moment.
#335. To: Original_Intent (#333)
#336. To: groundresonance (#334)
#337. To: Original_Intent (#336)
I am not hung up on having to have an "authority" tell me what I think.
#338. To: wudidiz, chemtrail believers (#304)
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I remember when the sky was a much clearer color of blue.
die kill ~~ Me
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