Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes Source:
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"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So, what on Earth are chem-trails all about beyond just water vapor?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
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now all you got to decide is what the "chemtrails" are about...
are they intended to shade the planet and reduce the effects of global warming?
...oh, but global warming cant be the reason for "chemtrails", because global warming, despite the hundreds of billions of tons of extra greenhouse gases deposited by humanity, doesnt exist.
so the "chemtrails" must be intended to kill us off...
...except that nobody's coming forward with evidence of increased mortality due to "chemtrail" spraying...
so what is your massive "chemtrail" operation intended to accomplish?
or maybe a better question would be: does this "chemtrail" phenomenon even exist outside the imagination of people who are making money by selling patent remedies for "chemtrail sickness", or are hyping their fringe websites?
I have drawn no final conclusions other than that you are pathologically dishonest - as witnessed by your attempt to put words in my mouth.
I have said that I do believe Chemtrails to be a phenomena unique from contrails, and the body of empirical evidence, no matter how hard you try to wiggle, supports that.
At no point have I offered even a speculation as to what their purpose might be.
Since I am not privy to the inside workings of the program I have no firm conclusion as to their purpose. I could speculate, but will not. Speculation I reserve for sharing with minds that are open, honest, and inquisitive. That leaves you out.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
why is there no "empirical evidence" of "chemtrails" from reputable scientific bodies, doctors, mechanics, pilots and "chemtrail" infrastructure support people?
why, if you are so dead sure you're able to tell the difference between "chemtrails" and contrails, are you unable to estimate the number of "chemtrail" flights out of the maybe 90,000 flights per day in the US?
what on earth possesses you to continue to impregnate your wife when you believe your children are facing such a dismal future?
Show me where I said my children are facing a dismal future?
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
Fuck off you low-life piece of shit scumbag before I begin to obsess over making your life a living nightmare.
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
Young friend, the one who goes by the designation groundresonance posts purely for the purposes of agitation and aggravation. Hie thyself off to the setup page and avail thyself of the wondrous clown filter. Posts of said varlet will disappear as if by magick.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
#322. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent (#321)
Thanks. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
Lets say there are intentional trace materials/compounds and so forth placed into "chemtrails." What is the reason for it in your opinion?
This thread is too long not to speculate.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
Lets say there are intentional trace materials/compounds and so forth placed into "chemtrails." What is the reason for it in your opinion?
I think it might be just a big scam in order that someone has the contracts to do this work. The amount of profit by a private company to carry out this operation must be an insane amount of money. The aluminum industry stands to benefit greatly from this as well.
That and weather manipulation, sophisticated weaponry (scalar wave technology), in my opinion.
Others speculate on such things as mind control, drugging the population, etc.
I really don't know.
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
...and I really don't care. I just want it to stop.
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
what if atmospheric conditions, the laws of chemistry, and airplanes powered by internal combustion engines... what if all that makes it impossible to stop?
what if "chemtrails" are a hoax, and short of stopping air traffic, there's no way of stopping contrails?
So, what on Earth are chem-trails all about beyond just water vapor?
Data insufficient. We can observe on a qualitative basis that there is an observed phenomena, distinct from normal contrails, but there is insufficient data on the actual chemical composition. Chemicals such as Barium, Aluminum, and Titanium have been reported from private analysis. The composition could offer a suggestion as to the function but there seem to be conflicting analyses which suggests that:
1. The analyses were contaminated.
OR
2. There is more than one program or function of the one program.
Various speculations have been offered as to why but there is not a clear enough data set to weigh any one over another. The suggestions/speculations have included:
1. Weather Modification.
2. Increasing the power of HAARP by creating greater electromagnetic conduction in the atmosphere.
and
3. Mitigation of Global Warming.
One thing that sticks in my memory was that about 3, maybe 4, years ago a Congresscritter got motivated to include in a bill the requirement that the programs spraying disclose what they were spraying. Oddly the bill was killed and the Congresscritter, I forget which one, clammed up like nobody's business. That was one of those interesting little blips that make you look up and have a "hmmmmmmmmmm" moment.
One of the things I have noticed, after being tipped off by someone else's comment, is that the heaviest spraying often occurs on the leading edge of a weather front. Why that would be I don't know, but it is a datum.
However, that something is going on I can observe and note.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Young Sith, the one who goes by the designation groundresonance posts purely for the purposes of agitation and aggravation. Hie thyself off to the setup page and avail thyself of the wondrous clown filter. Posts of said varlet will disappear as if by magick.
Oh, as annoying as it may be I like seeing what the disinfo posters are posting. It tells me what their masters are most concerned about.
I have noticed that on most forums that there are a few topics that will bring the disinfo posters running as fast their chubby little feet will carry them. Chemtrails is one and some of the others are:
911 - particularly anything to do with the Pentagram bombing.
Mind Control
and Israel.
No doubt that there are others on their list but those seem to be the priority topics.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
what if atmospheric conditions, the laws of chemistry, and airplanes powered by internal combustion engines... what if all that makes it impossible to stop?
what if "chemtrails" are a hoax, and short of stopping air traffic, there's no way of stopping contrails?
What if your mother had an abortion?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I suspect you have greater tolerance for bs than I have. I am getting too old to read a lot of it.
Well, they give away a lot in the meandering dishonesty. That itself is data of a sort, and it tells me things I do want to know. As well I get to see what the latest disinfo line is as they try different ones to see if it "sticks".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
if you had any information with reputable provenance, you might have a leg to stand on... but apparently you're relying mostly on your own personal opinion, buttressed by quotes and urls from fringe websites.
One thing that sticks in my memory was that about 3, maybe 4, years ago a Congresscritter got motivated to include in a bill the requirement that the programs spraying disclose what they were spraying. Oddly the bill was killed and the Congresscritter, I forget which one, clammed up like nobody's business. That was one of those interesting little blips that make you look up and have a "hmmmmmmmmmm" moment.
One of the things I have noticed, after being tipped off by someone else's comment, is that the heaviest spraying often occurs on the leading edge of a weather front. Why that would be I don't know, but it is a datum.
i dont see a lot of reputable backup for those supposed "facts" or your conclusions.
I am not hung up on having to have an "authority" tell me what I think.
I am one of those odd critters you run into who can reach a conclusion based on the evidence alone.
Novel idea that.
I believe they call it "The Scientific Method".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#338. To: wudidiz, chemtrail believers (#304)(Edited)
I remember when the sky was a much clearer color of blue.
Where there's no evidence, is there no crime?
Yeah, on 9/12/01 and about a week or so after that. The skies were blue.
There is no evidence. There really isn't. I bet you didn't notice contrails at all until someone pointed them out to you by calling them chemtrails, then you started seeing them everywhere. That's what happened to me. You didn't notice them before because they are so common.
That's all right though. I used to believe in them too. I don't anymore. If your mileage varies then that's OK. There's enough out there that we do agree on.
I don't bother playing Research Librarian for Shills. You are not interested in evidence you are interested in presenting disinformation
If you want "Sympathy" you can find it in the Dictionary - between "shit" and "syphilis". May I reccomend the "Oxford New American English Dictionary"? It is really quite good.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Can you clearly show the technical differentiation in a couple of pictures or links?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
and it seems to be getting so personal that we're no longer learning anything.
you're unable to post any evidence, there's been page after page posted that explains the chemical and atmospheric conditions that cause contrails, there's no "chemtrail" that cant be a contrail.
so unless you start producing evidence from reputable sources, we're kinda at a standstill.
#344. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent, randge, PSUSA, FormerLurker, James Deffenbach (#342)
Can you clearly show the technical differentiation in a couple of pictures or links?
If I showed pictures or videos of the twin towers disintegrating on 9/11 to someone who believes they 'pancaked' due to airplanes hitting them would it make a difference?
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
It looks like 2 planes at different altitudes. There are different conditions at different altitudes. I see nothing special about the pic, other than one was labeled as a chemtrail. Saying it doesn't make it so.
Sometimes what I ID in the past as "chemtrails" disappeared quickly, sometimes they spread out and merged. We only remember the whiteouts and forget the times there were no whiteouts.
It would be interesting to get some meteorologists input on this, as well as pilots.
It looks like 2 planes at different altitudes. There are different conditions at different altitudes.
Your saying that means you do not understand what you are talking about.
Normal contrails only form at 33,000 feet and above, and that is per the Air Force, whereas Chemtrails are frequently laid out at altitudes much lower.
However, you did inadvertently swerve into the truth - there are different conditions at different altitudes. Unfortunately for the debunkers that actually works in favor of the Chemtrail Research arguments as contrails will not form at all at the lower altitudes that Chemtrails are often observed at.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.
We only remember the whiteouts and forget the times there were no whiteouts.
I remember when there were no 'whiteouts'. I remember a time 10 to 20 years ago when the sky was sometimes overcast with cloud cover, but never from chemtrails sprayed by airplanes.
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
If I showed pictures or videos of the twin towers disintegrating on 9/11 to someone who believes they 'pancaked' due to airplanes hitting them would it make a difference?
No. Shills and people in debunkers are supremely unconcerned about facts. They have their "minds" made up and do not wish to be confused or even look.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Your picture and YouTube presentation use a similar theme: a very high altitude jet aircraft is emitting water vapor and a relatively low flying jet aircraft has emitted water vapor. In the case of the "contrail" the water vapor quickly freezes changing the reflectivity index, so you don't see the apparent trail for very long based on the angle of the pictures to the craft and the angle of the Sun at that time.
And for the lower flying jet aircraft wherein the "Chemtrail" appears to linger forever.... at the altitude flown, freezing did not occur. And there are other factors as well, air temperature, air velocity, time of day and actual chemical composition of the exhaust since air and jet fuel components need to be factored into the water vapor mixture that has been expelled.
If I showed pictures or videos of the twin towers disintegrating on 9/11 to someone who believes they 'pancaked' due to airplanes hitting them would it make a difference?
The trigger mechanism or ignition of 9/11 about the twin towers collapse was about jet aircraft pounding into the twin towers. Jet aircraft fuel is very flammable which leads us back into Chemtrails. That same combustion mixture (depending on the aircraft) gets transferred (although, very small trace amounts) into the exhausted water vapor. This leads to the variations you see in the sky.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977