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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#466. To: groundresonance (#463)

sorry, but they do...

so metimes

and sometimes they spread out enough to form an overcast

Not in the real world.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: wudidiz (#464)
(Edited)

read through the comments at the bottom of this 'debunking' site.

Reeks like carefully crafted Psyops.

you've been caught, redhanded, posting lies.

so the only thing left for you to do is go on the offensive, seeing as how you've been unable to post any evidence.

what does that reek of?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   20:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: christine, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, all (#465)

It's refreshing and reassuring to see we're on the same page here, Christine. :-)

A guy'd go nuts if there wasn't anyone else to validate this obvious observation with.

I LOVE Freedom4um!!


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   20:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: wudidiz (#462)

I was asked to show pictures of chemtrails equipment so I searched for 'chemtrail equipment' in Google images and posted them here.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   20:57:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: wudidiz (#468)

obvious observation

if you cant prove the altitude of the airplane, and prove the temperature and humidity of the air mass at that altitude, you have no idea whether or not contrails are possible.

a photo or an "observation" is not proof of altitude, temperature or humidity.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   20:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: groundresonance (#461)

well, i'm not gonna argue about it, but i will post one more reference, from the CIA, which puts america pretty far down the list, 49th, to be exact.

Country Comparison :: Life expectancy at birth

Not Found

The requested URL /cgi-bin/Country Comparison :: Life expectancy at birth was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at freedom4um.com Port 80

Got Link?

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   21:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: buckeroo (#469)

You're really asking for it, Bucko!! :-)


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   21:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: buckeroo (#471) (Edited)

here's the link

Country Comparison :: Life expectancy at birth

sorry for the bad url.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   21:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: wudidiz (#472) (Edited)

I remember everything my good friend. Now, also remember that these threads are a gift of life to all of us. Great stuff!

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   21:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: groundresonance (#473)

sorry for the bad url.

No problem at all. Ever see the countries basic mortality rates above America? Most of those socialists come to the US for medical care.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   21:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: buckeroo (#475)

Most of those patients in search of the best care, including 38% from Latin America, 35% from the Middle East, 16% from Europe and 7% from Canada, are heading to the United States.

U.S. Hospitals Worth The Trip

so how many people are traveling for medical care?

a report from 2008 found that a plurality of an estimated 60,000 to 85,000 medical tourists were traveling to the United States for the purpose of receiving in-patient medical care.

Medical tourism wikipedia

doesnt seem like those numbers are big enough to skew the life expectancy of whole countries.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   21:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: groundresonance (#476)

so how many people are traveling for medical care?

I think you need to review the US Congress in the attem0pt to give away free benefits for the 30,000,000 illegal aliens.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   21:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: buckeroo, wudidiz, Jhoffa_, nolu_chan, Fred Mertz, war, Rotara, TLBSHOW, BadJoe, christine (#420)

To be the man, you gotta beat the man...

Oh cool...it's nice bucky...WooHOOO!! I usedta like nice bucky. Sure, I'll help out when I can. Good to see y'all in good spirits...MUD

BTW...anybody seen JimmyH or Mr. Chan lately? They owe me fer a bet...

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: buckeroo (#477)

"I think you need to review the US Congress..."

Hey Bucky (er, Bill)...yeah, you can just call me "Steve"...I was wondering...

Would you agree with a Constitutional Amendment that made Congressional AND EXECUTIVE BRANCH Federal Golden Parachutes ILLEGAL--and, yes, TREASONOUS!!

My point, of course...DESTROY the PENSIONS and the RATS/RINOS will starve...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: buckeroo (#469)

Heh heh heh...yeah, nice bucky usedta be a HOOt...regards, dude.

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: buckeroo (#480) (Edited)

BTW...have you ever had a nice "Muddy Barry"?! Probably not, since MUD is the ONLY person HOO knows how to make them ZACKLEY RIGHT!! Fer the record, I'm enjoying said toddy as we speak, and she is MUCH BETTER than advertised, my friend.

Me and my buds are hittin' the Outer Banks next weekend...if'n ya wanna, I'll give ya the Milepost and you can come and check out "Mudboy Slim and the Syntaurs" LIVE and in action...LOL!!

Bill, I'm a gonna git ya front-row tickets fer MUD's inevitable performance upon the steps of the Lincoln Monument. It wouldn't be as fun if'n you weren't my buddy again by then...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: Mudboy Slim (#481)

Mudboy Slim and the Syntaurs

Sounds way gay.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-15   23:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: James Deffenbach (#482)

It is what it is, JimmieDee...we're actually a quite self-actualized group of accomplished individuals, my friend...MUD

Plus, some of us really, REALLY like tequila.

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: Mudboy Slim (#483)

Do a lot of that "self-actualizing," do you? Do y'all do it at the same time in a group or just individually?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-15   23:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: James Deffenbach, Rotara (#482)

Then again, no TEQUILA tonite...this evening, it's all about gittin' the "Muddy Barry!!" recipe ZACKLEY RIGHT!! BTW...I sent a private message to our mutual friend, Rotara, and thanked HIM again fer recommending Edward Griffin's "The Creature from Jekyll Island"

I'm still sloggin' my way thru it--yeah, my attention span SUX, I know--but it's defintiely an eye-opener...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: James Deffenbach (#484)

A FAGGOT joke from you, JimmieDee?! I'm disappointed...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   23:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#487. To: Mudboy Slim (#486)

A FAGGOT joke from you, JimmieDee?! I'm disappointed...MUD

I wasn't the one who brought up that "self-actualizing" mess. Just thought it was funny.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-15   23:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#488. To: All (#481)

Dagnabbit...nuthin' hotter than a chick in a uniform, willin' to defend her country...yowzah!!

Palin fer POTUS 2020...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   0:16:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#489. To: James Deffenbach (#487)

Just sayin'. JimmieDee...yer little lib'ral buddies like to toss the homo jokes out liberally...dude, sorry, can't help ya, MUD AIN'T GAY...LOL!! Doth I protesteth too loudly?!

Whatever, JimmieDee...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   0:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#490. To: James Deffenbach (#487)

I'm very sorry, JimmieDee...I've apparently WAAAY over-estimted yer intelligence...

"Maslow's "Theory of Self-Actualization!!"

Sincerely, I DO apologize...I often fergit how STOOOPID, nay, mis- educated, you Publik-Skewl- educated RATS really are...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   1:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#491. To: JimmieDee (#490)

"Maslow's "Theory of Self-Actualization!!"

Not everything is about masturbation, JimmieDee...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   1:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#492. To: All (#491)

Physiological needs include:

Breathing
Food
Sexual activity
Homeostasis
Air, water, and food are metabolic requirements for survival in all animals, including humans. The intensity of the human sexual instinct is shaped more by sexual competition than maintaining a birth rate adequate to survival of the species.

"The urge to have sex is so powerful that it can drain psychic energy away from other necessary goals. Therefore every culture has to invest great efforts in rechanneling and restraining it, and many complex social institutions exist only in order to regulate this urge. The saying that "love makes the world go round" is a polite reference to the fact that most of our deeds are impelled, either directly or indirectly, by sexual needs."
—Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience!!"

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   1:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: Mudboy Slim (#490)

Sincerely, I DO apologize...I often fergit how STOOOPID, nay, mis- educated, you Publik-Skewl- educated RATS really are...MUD

LOL! Everyone who makes a joke you don't like or disagrees with you about whatever politician you happen to worship at any given moment is a RAT. At least that is how you come off. Keep on talking that stupid $#it and digging that hole. Most folks have sense enough to stop digging when they find the hole they are in is getting over their head but you keep on going.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-16   8:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: christine (#465) (Edited)

Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.

exactly

No, not exactly.

Did you see this link from post 444 depletedcranium.com/are-these-chemtrail-planes-no/ It is a great page.

Then there's posts 447, 449/450

This is a hoax that took on a life of its own.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-16   8:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: wudidiz, christine (#494)

Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.

So you had them analyzed and they were found to be "mineral compounds"?

GOOD WORK! BRAVO! Someone give him a cookie!

Tell me, what kind of mineral compounds were they? What lab were they tested at? How did you get those samples?


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-16   9:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: James Deffenbach (#493)

MUD's been diggin' fer years...no desire whatsoever to stop now...LOL!!

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   11:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: PSUSA (#398)

It costs about $100 per year to put up a website. Once that is paid, it just takes time and effort. You don't need funding. Now, do you have any specific disagreements about the info presented there?

I'm talking about the amount of research and effort needed to explain away the phenomona, similar to how NIST explained the collapse of the WTC towers as being due to heat and pancaking.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-03-16   12:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: PSUSA (#398)

It costs about $100 per year to put up a website.

PS: Web designers make anywhere from $25 to $80 or so per hour. I doubt it took just several hours to put that altogether, and that's not even considering the bandwidth and hosting expense.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-03-16   12:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: FormerLurker (#498)

You don't need a web designer to put up a website. There is absolutely nothing special about depletedcranium.com/ other than he did a great job at debunking chemtrails and he did it on one page. The page itself is very simple. If you can use a browser, you can design a website.

It could easily be done in several hours.

Or you can be a dumbass and pay someone to set it up for you. The people that make that kind of money are doing it for businesses, not personal websites. You can buy templates if you're really desperate.

Here it is again in case you missed it. depletedcranium.com/are-these-chemtrail-planes-no/ . Now about the info presented there: what sayest thou?

Have you ever put up a website? It sounds like you are making assumptions about a topic that you don't know anything about.

You get a tremendous amount of bandwidth per account. It comes with your hosting account. It's not a separate thing that you have to pay for. If you run out of bandwidth, then you are on par with Rense and congratulations are in order, or bots are sucking it up.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-16   13:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: FormerLurker (#497)

I'm talking about the amount of research and effort needed to explain away the phenomona, similar to how NIST explained the collapse of the WTC towers as being due to heat and pancaking.

Really, how much research would it take someone with some smarts, to put up that page? It took effort, but not some kind of superhuman effort. And, nothing is "explained away". It's all laid out, nice and neat.

Now, what exactly did he "explain away" again???

And dont compare this to the WTC towers and the NIST. It takes much more effort to lie than it does to just tell the truth.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-16   13:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: groundresonance (#463)

So groundresonance are you saying that you believe there is no cloud seeding going on? Do you not believe that they are spraying chemicals in the air?

MiracleRose7  posted on  2010-03-16   13:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: MiracleRose7, gruntresonance, groundresonance, all (#501)

So groundresonance are you saying that you believe there is no cloud seeding going on? Do you not believe that they are spraying chemicals in the air?

That is exactly what gruntresonace is trying to maintain. That you can't believe your eyes, that the government never has secret programs, that they have never engaged in human experimentation, and that the Easter Bunny is going to hop right in and give him a bunch of candy eggs.

Everything is normal, don't believe your lying eyes, go back to sleep, all is well. The government luvvvvvvvs you and Big Brother is looking after your best interests. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve!

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-16   13:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: All (#501)

To deny that cloud seeding takes place is just plain silliness. The real questions are what are they using? How much of this substance comes to the ground surface and what is the impact of such chemicals upon the surface and humans?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/20...loud-seeding-efforts.html

http://proliberty.com/observer//20071108.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/sci...12-02-cloud-seeding_x.htm

Novelist Kurt Vonnegut's brother, Bernard, was one of its pioneers in the 1940s. So was Henderson, who used to sit in a surplus P-38 warplane and dump granules of dry ice out the hatch to coax more snow from clouds over California's Sierra Nevada range.

Hydroelectric utilities, ski resorts and irrigation districts in California, Nevada, Colorado and other states have been seeding clouds for decades. Most use furnace-size propane burners on the ground. Some also fly aircraft into clouds and drop chemicals from above. They track storm fronts like TV meteorologists. Using radars, satellite views and mountaintop weather stations, they gauge when temperature, wind and other conditions are best.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2010-03-16   13:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: MiracleRose7 (#503)

No one denies cloud seeding. But, when you understand the gist of the thread from top to bottom this action is not at issue.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-16   13:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: PSUSA (#500)

Now, what exactly did he "explain away" again???

And dont compare this to the WTC towers and the NIST. It takes much more effort to lie than it does to just tell the truth.

Someone went to great effort to put up the disinfo in the first place, then put up a site to discredit it, AFTER the disinfo had been out in the wild for some time.

In other words, the flow is as follows;

  1. Problematic activity is obviously seen by many
  2. Setup false info and "proof", allow the public to take the bait
  3. Setup a site such as contrailscience.com to debunk the info that had been planted, making ANYONE who speaks up about the problematic activity to appear foolish

Funny thing is, the registration info on contrailscience.com appears to be private, and nobody is listed as a technical contact or anything. Hmmm.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-03-16   13:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: PSUSA (#500) (Edited)

Now, what exactly did he "explain away" again???

Images of aircraft leaving chemtrails obviously, along with images of equipment claimed to produce those chemtrails.

You've been to the site, you don't need to play dumb with me here.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-03-16   13:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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