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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#484. To: Mudboy Slim (#483)
Do a lot of that "self-actualizing," do you? Do y'all do it at the same time in a group or just individually?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Then again, no TEQUILA tonite...this evening, it's all about gittin' the "Muddy Barry!!" recipe ZACKLEY RIGHT!! BTW...I sent a private message to our mutual friend, Rotara, and thanked HIM again fer recommending Edward Griffin's "The Creature from Jekyll Island" I'm still sloggin' my way thru it--yeah, my attention span SUX, I know--but it's defintiely an eye-opener...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, A FAGGOT joke from you, JimmieDee?! I'm disappointed...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I wasn't the one who brought up that "self-actualizing" mess. Just thought it was funny.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Dagnabbit...nuthin' hotter than a chick in a uniform, willin' to defend her country...yowzah!! Palin fer POTUS 2020...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Just sayin'. JimmieDee...yer little lib'ral buddies like to toss the homo jokes out liberally...dude, sorry, can't help ya, MUD AIN'T GAY...LOL!! Doth I protesteth too loudly?! Whatever, JimmieDee...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, "Maslow's "Theory of Self-Actualization!!" Sincerely, I DO apologize...I often fergit how Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, "Maslow's "Theory of Self-Actualization!!" Not everything is about masturbation, JimmieDee...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Physiological needs include: Breathing "The urge to have sex is so powerful that it can drain psychic energy away from other necessary goals. Therefore every culture has to invest great efforts in rechanneling and restraining it, and many complex social institutions exist only in order to regulate this urge. The saying that "love makes the world go round" is a polite reference to the fact that most of our deeds are impelled, either directly or indirectly, by sexual needs." Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, LOL! Everyone who makes a joke you don't like or disagrees with you about whatever politician you happen to worship at any given moment is a RAT. At least that is how you come off. Keep on talking that stupid $#it and digging that hole. Most folks have sense enough to stop digging when they find the hole they are in is getting over their head but you keep on going.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. exactly No, not exactly. Did you see this link from post 444 depletedcranium.com/are-these-chemtrail-planes-no/ It is a great page. Then there's posts 447, 449/450 This is a hoax that took on a life of its own.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or So you had them analyzed and they were found to be "mineral compounds"? GOOD WORK! BRAVO! Someone give him a cookie! Tell me, what kind of mineral compounds were they? What lab were they tested at? How did you get those samples?
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or MUD's been diggin' fer years...no desire whatsoever to stop now...LOL!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I'm talking about the amount of research and effort needed to explain away the phenomona, similar to how NIST explained the collapse of the WTC towers as being due to heat and pancaking.
PS: Web designers make anywhere from $25 to $80 or so per hour. I doubt it took just several hours to put that altogether, and that's not even considering the bandwidth and hosting expense.
You don't need a web designer to put up a website. There is absolutely nothing special about depletedcranium.com/ other than he did a great job at debunking chemtrails and he did it on one page. The page itself is very simple. If you can use a browser, you can design a website. It could easily be done in several hours. Or you can be a dumbass and pay someone to set it up for you. The people that make that kind of money are doing it for businesses, not personal websites. You can buy templates if you're really desperate. Here it is again in case you missed it. depletedcranium.com/are-these-chemtrail-planes-no/ . Now about the info presented there: what sayest thou? Have you ever put up a website? It sounds like you are making assumptions about a topic that you don't know anything about. You get a tremendous amount of bandwidth per account. It comes with your hosting account. It's not a separate thing that you have to pay for. If you run out of bandwidth, then you are on par with Rense and congratulations are in order, or bots are sucking it up.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Really, how much research would it take someone with some smarts, to put up that page? It took effort, but not some kind of superhuman effort. And, nothing is "explained away". It's all laid out, nice and neat. Now, what exactly did he "explain away" again??? And dont compare this to the WTC towers and the NIST. It takes much more effort to lie than it does to just tell the truth.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or So groundresonance are you saying that you believe there is no cloud seeding going on? Do you not believe that they are spraying chemicals in the air?
That is exactly what gruntresonace is trying to maintain. That you can't believe your eyes, that the government never has secret programs, that they have never engaged in human experimentation, and that the Easter Bunny is going to hop right in and give him a bunch of candy eggs. Everything is normal, don't believe your lying eyes, go back to sleep, all is well. The government luvvvvvvvs you and Big Brother is looking after your best interests. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
To deny that cloud seeding takes place is just plain silliness. The real questions are what are they using? How much of this substance comes to the ground surface and what is the impact of such chemicals upon the surface and humans? http://www.idahostatesman.com/20...loud-seeding-efforts.html http://proliberty.com/observer//20071108.htm http://www.usatoday.com/news/sci...12-02-cloud-seeding_x.htm Novelist Kurt Vonnegut's brother, Bernard, was one of its pioneers in the 1940s. So was Henderson, who used to sit in a surplus P-38 warplane and dump granules of dry ice out the hatch to coax more snow from clouds over California's Sierra Nevada range. Hydroelectric utilities, ski resorts and irrigation districts in California, Nevada, Colorado and other states have been seeding clouds for decades. Most use furnace-size propane burners on the ground. Some also fly aircraft into clouds and drop chemicals from above. They track storm fronts like TV meteorologists. Using radars, satellite views and mountaintop weather stations, they gauge when temperature, wind and other conditions are best.
No one denies cloud seeding. But, when you understand the gist of the thread from top to bottom this action is not at issue.
And dont compare this to the WTC towers and the NIST. It takes much more effort to lie than it does to just tell the truth. Someone went to great effort to put up the disinfo in the first place, then put up a site to discredit it, AFTER the disinfo had been out in the wild for some time. In other words, the flow is as follows; Funny thing is, the registration info on contrailscience.com appears to be private, and nobody is listed as a technical contact or anything. Hmmm.
Images of aircraft leaving chemtrails obviously, along with images of equipment claimed to produce those chemtrails. You've been to the site, you don't need to play dumb with me here.
Sure it is - it may have a different purpose but the action is little different - instead of seeding clouds to generate precipitation they seeding something into the atmosphere for an unknown purpose. You may try to deny it as much as you wish but the evidence is there, and some of us are old enough to remember when it was not so. Thus we can compare the skies of our youth with the skies of today and KNOW there is a difference. There IS some sort of program ongoing. What that program is we may not know for sure, but we can observe its traces. Chemtrails are a new and very real phenomena that demands an honest explanation.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I guess groundresonance never read that they use this all the time in Russia to avoid rain during certain parades and other events. Of course, in this article they also point to the fact that the U.S. also does this. As I said it is beyond silliness to attempt to claim that there is no such thing going on.
1. Problematic activity is obviously seen by many Exactly - and it has all the earmarks, given the pattern, of a professional job done by experienced PsyOps people. Anyone so naive as to not know that such operations DO take place is simply ignorant of the real world.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Oh, I agree and one can see the evidence if one but has eyes to see and takes them off of their shoes for a while.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You mean to say a publickly acceptable purpose. Since life expectancy is increasing in the US, could the EBIL doers be spraying us with the majiic elixir that Ponce de León was searching for?
Dont play dumb with me either. That page explains the lies behind this chemtrail nonsense by giving specific information on specific gear. It even got into photoshopping that we also documented on this thread. I am growing weary of this thread. I keep wanting to talk evidence, as do a few others here, and we keep coming back to this crap.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or knowledge.allianz.com/en/...tions_geoengineering.html Yes, I do have issues with it. For one I am allergic to Barium. I know the scientist were also discussing spraying Sulfa in the air to combat global warming this is another thing I am allergic to. The information of what they are spraying in the air should be readily available to the public along with the test of the air and ground and any impact it may have on us. Our government has not been above board on many issues. We should have cameras on them at all times when they meet. We should know what they are doing and they should be held accountable for their actions.
Did I say anything resembling that? NO. So, misrepresentation of my position is dishonest argumentation. It is known under a variety of names but ultimately is a variation on the Strawman Argument. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
There is the webhost, right? You can pay extra to keep your private info private. There is nothing sinister about it. Which you would know, if you ever put up a website. # Setup a site such as contrailscience.com to debunk the info that had been planted, making ANYONE who speaks up about the problematic activity to appear foolish Appear foolish? It is foolish. How twisted does this have to get? We have shown you people proof that this is bogus. Actual proof. You and the others have shown nothing. Fuck this. I'm done with this thread until someone says something serious. There is no serious discussion here.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Since the action or actions are intended (that is to say, purposeful) you MUST restate your post. I attempted to suggest that because you don't know the purpose hardly means that it is "unknown."
Are you aware that they were discussing spraying sulfur into the air. Whether they have begun this or not I do not know. The problem is they are not open about what they are spraying into the air or of the impact it has on humans. Because of their unwillingness to be open and above board regarding spraying we should be concerned. I remember when they were spraying for med-flies in So. Calif. and they said it was perfectly safe for humans. But you should bring your pets inside and cover your vehicles as it may damage or eat the paint off of your vehicles. I told people think about the statement rationally and ask yourself if it is going to eat the paint off of your car it will more or less probably impact a humans health. Sometimes people just don't think.
This thread is awesome. Stay in touch .... as it is showing some very clear considerations.
So do you believe that there is cloud seeding going on? If so, what are the chemicals being sprayed in the air and how much? What is the impact on the ground and were can we get the copies of the studies? What exactly are you attempting to dispute? I mean even in USA Today they have articles regarding seed clouding and that it is occurring.
Where? That would introduce sulfuric acid as you probably know. In the Northeast of the USA, this phenomena is already known and understood based upon factory gaseous release(s).... it typically causes rust and corrosion and is popularly known as acid rain.
What exactly are you guys disputing? You have said you are not disputing that there is seeding the clouds going on. From what I have read on this thread there is a concern regarding the chemicals that are being put into the air by planes. People have come on here and more or less attempted to say there are no such thing as chem-trails and that the planes are not spraying. Now you say no one is disputing spraying and seeding the clouds. So please tell me what the dispute is!
Because of their unwillingness to be open and above board regarding spraying we should be concerned. I remember when they were spraying for med-flies in So. Calif. and they said it was perfectly safe for humans. But you should bring your pets inside and cover your vehicles as it may damage or eat the paint off of your vehicles. I told people think about the statement rationally and ask yourself if it is going to eat the paint off of your car it will more or less probably impact a humans health. Sometimes people just don't think. I was not aware of the sulfur but was aware of the other spraying. Yeah - "it's OK and won't hurt you - bring your pets in and protect your car from having the paint eaten away". "Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." And yes - informed consent means just that. As long as the purpose of the spraying is kept secret, and even denied despite visible evidence, then one must assume on a provisional basis that there is something about it which the general public would object to if it were known. Therefore it is, and becomes, a matter of considerable concern given past misdeeds on testing "substances" on people.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
We're talking 2 differnet things ehre. Seeding is differnet than chemntrails
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or The issue is chemtrails and contrails. Read the thread from top to bottom. You will have ensured that you acquired some new knowledge and opinions.
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Lord Acton
#485. To: James Deffenbach, Rotara (#482)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#486. To: James Deffenbach (#484)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#487. To: Mudboy Slim (#486)
A FAGGOT joke from you, JimmieDee?! I'm disappointed...MUD
Lord Acton
#488. To: All (#481)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#489. To: James Deffenbach (#487)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#490. To: James Deffenbach (#487)
I'm very sorry, JimmieDee...I've apparently WAAAY over-estimted yer intelligence...
STOOOPID, nay, mis- educated, you Publik-Skewl- educated RATS really are...MUD
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#491. To: JimmieDee (#490)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#492. To: All (#491)
Food
Sexual activity
Homeostasis
Air, water, and food are metabolic requirements for survival in all animals, including humans. The intensity of the human sexual instinct is shaped more by sexual competition than maintaining a birth rate adequate to survival of the species.
—Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience!!"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#493. To: Mudboy Slim (#490)
Sincerely, I DO apologize...I often fergit how STOOOPID, nay, mis- educated, you Publik-Skewl- educated RATS really are...MUD
Lord Acton
#494. To: christine (#465)
(Edited)
Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.
die kill ~~ Me
#495. To: wudidiz, christine (#494)
Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.
die kill ~~ Me
#496. To: James Deffenbach (#493)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#497. To: PSUSA (#398)
It costs about $100 per year to put up a website. Once that is paid, it just takes time and effort. You don't need funding. Now, do you have any specific disagreements about the info presented there?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#498. To: PSUSA (#398)
It costs about $100 per year to put up a website.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#499. To: FormerLurker (#498)
die kill ~~ Me
#500. To: FormerLurker (#497)
I'm talking about the amount of research and effort needed to explain away the phenomona, similar to how NIST explained the collapse of the WTC towers as being due to heat and pancaking.
die kill ~~ Me
#501. To: groundresonance (#463)
#502. To: MiracleRose7, gruntresonance, groundresonance, all (#501)
So groundresonance are you saying that you believe there is no cloud seeding going on? Do you not believe that they are spraying chemicals in the air?
#503. To: All (#501)
#504. To: MiracleRose7 (#503)
#505. To: PSUSA (#500)
Now, what exactly did he "explain away" again???
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#506. To: PSUSA (#500)
(Edited)
Now, what exactly did he "explain away" again???
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#507. To: buckeroo, MiracleRose7, wudidiz, FormerLurker, all (#504)
#508. To: Original_Intent (#502)
That is exactly what gruntresonace is trying to maintain. That you can't believe your eyes, that the government never has secret programs, that they have never engaged in human experimentation, and that the Easter Bunny is going to hop right in and give him a bunch of candy eggs.
#509. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA, wudidiz, all (#505)
In other words, the flow is as follows;
2. Setup false info and "proof", allow the public to take the bait
3. Setup a site such as contrailscience.com to debunk the info that had been planted, making ANYONE who speaks up about the problematic activity to appear foolish
#510. To: MiracleRose7 (#508)
As I said it is beyond silliness to attempt to claim that there is no such thing going on.
#511. To: Original_Intent (#507)
.... instead of seeding clouds to generate precipitation they seeding something into the atmosphere for an unknown purpose.
#512. To: FormerLurker (#506)
You've been to the site, you don't need to play dumb with me here.
die kill ~~ Me
#513. To: buckeroo (#504)
No one denies cloud seeding. But, when you understand the gist of the thread from top to bottom this action is not at issue.
#514. To: buckeroo (#511)
Etymology:
"Straw man" is one of the best-named fallacies, because it is memorable and vividly illustrates the nature of the fallacy. Imagine a fight in which one of the combatants sets up a man of straw, attacks it, then proclaims victory. All the while, the real opponent stands by untouched.
Exposition:
Judging from my experience, Straw Man is one of the commonest of fallacies. It is endemic in public debates on politics, ethics, and religion.
The Straw Man is a type of Red Herring because the arguer is attempting to refute his opponent's position, and in the context is required to do so, but instead attacks a position—the "straw man"—not held by his opponent. In a Straw Man argument, the arguer argues to a conclusion that denies the "straw man" he has set up, but misses the target. There may be nothing wrong with the argument presented by the arguer when it is taken out of context, that is, it may be a perfectly good argument against the straw man. It is only because the burden of proof is on the arguer to argue against the opponent's position that a Straw Man fallacy is committed. So, the fallacy is not simply the argument, but the entire situation of the argument occurring in such a context.
#515. To: FormerLurker (#505)
Funny thing is, the registration info on contrailscience.com appears to be private, and nobody is listed as a technical contact or anything. Hmmm.
die kill ~~ Me
#516. To: Original_Intent (#514)
OI: .... instead of seeding clouds to generate precipitation they seeding something into the atmosphere for an unknown purpose.
#517. To: Original_Intent (#507)
#518. To: PSUSA (#515)
I'm done with this thread until someone says something serious.
#519. To: PSUSA (#515)
#520. To: MiracleRose7 (#517)
Are you aware that they were discussing spraying sulfur into the air.
#521. To: buckeroo (#518)
#522. To: MiracleRose7 (#517)
Are you aware that they were discussing spraying sulfur into the air. Whether they have begun this or not I do not know. The problem is they are not open about what they are spraying into the air or of the impact it has on humans.
#523. To: MiracleRose7 (#519)
So do you believe that there is cloud seeding going on? If so, what are the chemicals being sprayed in the air and how much? What is the impact on the ground and were can we get the copies of the studies?
die kill ~~ Me
#524. To: MiracleRose7 (#521)
What exactly are you guys disputing?
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