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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#577. To: groundresonance, buckeroo, all (#576)
Yeah, but it's a completely different kind of fuel. How much water is released? How about other chemicals that are released due to combustion? I barely passed high school chemistry. There is a way to answer this "chemtrail" nonsense scientifically, in one neat tidy package, and not in a topic approaching 600 posts, a good portion of which is nothing but idiotic nonsense. But I can't do it because I don't know what these variables are exactly. We can only address some of them. That is enough to disprove it, but I know there is more. This whole thing is based on deception, that you found, regarding photoshopped pics, and a whole bunch of crap spread on the internet. It's unfortunate, but a big part of the programming we all get from our days in school is that if it is in print, then it's true. Especially if it goes along with what we think our government is capable of doing to us. And if a person sounds authoritative, then that makes it true too. People lie. All the time. And they spread lies. All the time. You can see it here. Chemtrails are a hoax that took on a life of its own.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Did you see post #565 from groundresonance? He introduces the Appleman Chart. You can follow one link here ....
apparently gasoline produces about a gallon of water for each gallon of gas burned... jet fuel produces a little more than a gallon of water for each gallon burned.
I didn't know how to answer FL's point of view on that post. I had previously brought up the point and he seems to dismiss it and then refine the idea in terms of a cylindrical volume of gaseous space. In any event we are not looking at one gallon of water.
A plane of any sort doesn't burn enough fuel to put that much water vapor or condensation into the air. Even if it did (though it can't) it would disappear quickly.
Incorrect. You haven't introduced the various physical parameters of altitude, air speed, temperature and other important technical details into your reasoning.
Yes, I do. By that token even ordinary jet aircraft burning ordinary jet fuel could not produce ordinary contrails without falling from the sky because they would soon run out of fuel. Wonder what keeps them up there??
These spaces where the chemtrails stop and start: Is that where the engine stops and starts running again. To save fuel maybe?
Contrail Chemtrails how bout giving us the altitude, temperature and humidity at those places where the contrails disappeared, so we can plug the numbers into an appleman chart and see if maybe it was too warm or too humid for contrails to form.
Not contrails: how bout shoving yer head in a bucket of shit
what's the altitude, temp and humidity in the air where those contrails are appearing?
Not contrails. can you tell us the altitude, temperature and humidity of the air those planes are flying through? maybe that air is right smack dab on the max persistence line of the appleman chart...
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Wings with a bit of thrust.
That is surprising. I never would have thought it would be a 1:1 ratio, or very close to it! So all it would take is some math and a bit of accurate photo interpretation to measure the actual trail out of each engine, and calculate how much water vapor is in in that contrail vs how much fuel is burned in that sample. I assume that the air would be totally saturated by water vapor at that point? Or, at least at the engines exhaust. Using one of the cherry picked pics of "chemtrails" posted here would actually help disprove chemtrails, since the more water vapor visible the more accurate the calculations would be. I guess it does come down to photo interpretation after all. But not in the same way that the "chemtrail" crowd (mis)uses them.
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Comparison of Contrail and Chemtrail Chemtrail at 1:30
Water vapor dissipates and disappears. Quickly.
Nonsense. It's morse code smoke signals from the Draconian reptilian overlords to their underlings in the illuminati. I bet the poor unfortunate person that took this video is pushing up daisies now... And to those that dare post it... You poor poor man. Your fate is sealed.
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I just want to point out that your video had some AWESOME accompanying music. Thank you.
you cant make any calculations, i dont think, without knowing the temp and humidity... altitude isnt so critical. then there's fuel consumption, which relates to throttle setting, which relates to flight regime... for instance, if you're balls to the wall on climbout, you're gonna be pouring tons of water into the air, and you're only gonna be doing 150kts or so, because that's max rate of climb... low airspeed + max power = dense contrails. if you hang around in canada or alaska or someplace where you can run into -40 temps, or if you're in a chase plane behind the subject plane at max climb at altitude, you should be able to get some great pictures. and your telephoto compresses and foreshortens the image, too, if you're using a telephoto lense. you gotta wonder how come these mysterious substances are invisible when they first come out of the engine. more reptilian meddling, i guess.
I bet the poor unfortunate person that took this video is pushing up daisies now... And to those that dare post it... You poor poor man. Your fate is sealed. Earlier, I awarded you best sarcasm of the thread award. Now, you are going for best sarcasm of the Universe. Does anyone second the nomination?
It's morse code smoke signals from the Draconian reptilian overlords to their underlings in the illuminati. I bet the poor unfortunate person that took this video is pushing up daisies now... And to those that dare post it... You poor poor man. Your fate is sealed. it's not as if you didnt deserve it.
Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails
Airplane Contrails vs Airplane Chemtrails
I think you're right, for the reasons you list. Calculations would only be a SWAG, which defeats the point of calculating something. That pic is interesting. It was shopped! LOL!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or But atmospheric studies by NASA and NOAA - including TARFOX, ACE-Asia, ACE-I and II, INDOEX and Project SUCCESS - confirm that artificial clouds and contrails can be manufactured under conditions of low humidity by dispensing particles from aircraft. The smaller the size of the nuclei introduced into the atmosphere, the greater the rate of artificial cloud formation. Controllers across the United States know from their professional training that these chemicals fall to the ground. Without exception they expressed their concern to Deep Sky about possible risks to human health, "They want to know what the heck is in there," S.T. Brendt reported. "One of them said, 'Aluminum or barium' that's not something you want to be breathing." This bears looking into, no?
yeah, i'll get right on it just as soon as these reptilian alien motherfuckers quit probing my anus. rense
Sounds painful. I make it a practice to avoid riding around in alien spacecraft. Get you some Dermolate.
i looked around for some way to figure out the volume occupied by a gallon's worth of water vapor at ...say, 30,000 feet, but i didnt come up with much. It will take about 15,965 cubic feet of air at that temperature and humidity to hold 1 gallon of water. maybe, after my anal probe is done and i finish looking into rense's reptilian controllers, i'll get back to it.
Why not appeal to reason? A little bit of capability towards the physics of the observations can show that much can be explained away for the apparent observations.
Chemtrails stay in the sky. Contrails don't.
Wrong answer. The difference is variations in dissipation rates over time. Even your "chemtrails" eventually dissipate to the point that the observations from ground can not distinguish a "chemtrail" from the sky's background.
I'll try and do it. It's out of my comfort zone though, and I might make mistakes. I'll go with an arbitrary -40F temp, which is 233 Kelvin. www.allmeasures.com/temperature.html Plug that 233K here: users.wpi.edu/~ierardi/FireTools/water_vapor.html and you get a density of 0.925446331910432 kg/m3 A gallon of water weighs 3.7854118 kg www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/subsection1_4_2_0_7.html A cubic meter of vapor at that temp. then holds .2444 gallons of water vapor. ( .92544 / 3.7854 ) Where to go from there? I don't know ;). For all I know, I am entirely wrong about this.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or me, neither. maybe after a nap i can deal with it... not now. poor ol' wudidiz has turned my brain to hamburger.
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#578. To: PSUSA, groundresonance (#577)
#579. To: PSUSA, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, ground resonance, all (#577)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#580. To: PSUSA (#577)
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How much water is released?
#581. To: wudidiz, Formerlurker (#579)
#582. To: buckeroo, Formerlurker (#581)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#583. To: wudidiz (#582)
A plane of any sort doesn't burn enough fuel to put that much water vapor or condensation into the air. Even if it did (though it can't) it would disappear quickly.
#584. To: wudidiz (#579)
See where this is going?
#585. To: randge (#584)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#586. To: All (#585)
Note the short white line. It disappears because it's made of water. 
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#587. To: wudidiz (#585)
#588. To: All (#586)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#589. To: groundresonance (#587)
how bout giving us the altitude, temperature and humidity at those places where the contrails disappeared, so we can plug the numbers into an appleman chart and see if maybe it was too warm or too humid for contrails to form.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#590. To: wudidiz (#588)
(Edited)
#591. To: All (#589)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#592. To: wudidiz (#591)
#593. To: All (#591)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#594. To: randge (#584)
Wonder what keeps them up there??
#595. To: groundresonance, all (#580)
die kill ~~ Me
#596. To: All (#593)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#597. To: All (#596)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#598. To: PSUSA (#595)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#599. To: wudidiz (#596)
die kill ~~ Me
#600. To: All (#598)
Water vapor dissipates and disappears. Quickly.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#601. To: wudidiz (#597)
#602. To: PSUSA (#595)
(Edited)
Using one of the cherry picked pics of "chemtrails" posted here would actually help disprove chemtrails, since the more water vapor visible the more accurate the calculations would be.
#603. To: PSUSA, all (#599)
It's morse code smoke signals from the Draconian reptilian overlords to their underlings in the illuminati.
#604. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, PSUSA, all (#599)
Nonsense.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#605. To: wudidiz (#604)
Appeal to Ridicule
#606. To: All (#604)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#607. To: All (#606)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#608. To: groundresonance (#602)
you cant make any calculations, i dont think, without knowing the temp and humidity... altitude isnt so critical.
die kill ~~ Me
#609. To: wudidiz groundresonance (#606)
Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails
#610. To: randge (#609)
This bears looking into, no?
#611. To: groundresonance (#610)
#612. To: PSUSA (#608)
Calculations would only be a SWAG
How Much Water In Gallons Per Cubic Foot Of Air At 74 Degrees F And 40% Relative Humidity?
#613. To: wudidiz (#604)
Appeal to Ridicule
#614. To: buckeroo (#613)
Why not appeal to reason?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#615. To: wudidiz (#614)
Chemtrails stay in the sky. Contrails don't.
#616. To: groundresonance (#612)
die kill ~~ Me
#617. To: PSUSA (#616)
Where to go from there? I don't know ;)
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