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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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#607. To: All (#606)
Airplane Contrails vs Airplane Chemtrails
I think you're right, for the reasons you list. Calculations would only be a SWAG, which defeats the point of calculating something. That pic is interesting. It was shopped! LOL!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or But atmospheric studies by NASA and NOAA - including TARFOX, ACE-Asia, ACE-I and II, INDOEX and Project SUCCESS - confirm that artificial clouds and contrails can be manufactured under conditions of low humidity by dispensing particles from aircraft. The smaller the size of the nuclei introduced into the atmosphere, the greater the rate of artificial cloud formation. Controllers across the United States know from their professional training that these chemicals fall to the ground. Without exception they expressed their concern to Deep Sky about possible risks to human health, "They want to know what the heck is in there," S.T. Brendt reported. "One of them said, 'Aluminum or barium' that's not something you want to be breathing." This bears looking into, no?
yeah, i'll get right on it just as soon as these reptilian alien motherfuckers quit probing my anus. rense
Sounds painful. I make it a practice to avoid riding around in alien spacecraft. Get you some Dermolate.
i looked around for some way to figure out the volume occupied by a gallon's worth of water vapor at ...say, 30,000 feet, but i didnt come up with much. It will take about 15,965 cubic feet of air at that temperature and humidity to hold 1 gallon of water. maybe, after my anal probe is done and i finish looking into rense's reptilian controllers, i'll get back to it.
Why not appeal to reason? A little bit of capability towards the physics of the observations can show that much can be explained away for the apparent observations.
Chemtrails stay in the sky. Contrails don't.
Wrong answer. The difference is variations in dissipation rates over time. Even your "chemtrails" eventually dissipate to the point that the observations from ground can not distinguish a "chemtrail" from the sky's background.
I'll try and do it. It's out of my comfort zone though, and I might make mistakes. I'll go with an arbitrary -40F temp, which is 233 Kelvin. www.allmeasures.com/temperature.html Plug that 233K here: users.wpi.edu/~ierardi/FireTools/water_vapor.html and you get a density of 0.925446331910432 kg/m3 A gallon of water weighs 3.7854118 kg www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/subsection1_4_2_0_7.html A cubic meter of vapor at that temp. then holds .2444 gallons of water vapor. ( .92544 / 3.7854 ) Where to go from there? I don't know ;). For all I know, I am entirely wrong about this.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or me, neither. maybe after a nap i can deal with it... not now. poor ol' wudidiz has turned my brain to hamburger.
I don't care if they call them chemtrails or if they insist that they are contrails. Whatever they are they did not use to be there and whatever is causing them should be made known to the public and any adverse affects it may have on us. If they were open and above board we would all know what is causing them and be able to view the impact study. I think that the major concern is that they are there whether it be from cloud seeding, a fuel they are using, or any other chemicals being sprayed in the air. The bottom line is what is causing them and why don't we ALL know. I am sure we would agree on that.
what if they're being caused by the 1700 gallons per hour per plane of water that's being injected into cold air that's the right humidity?
Sorry, didn't see this post. I saw the chart. You know, this topic reminds me of one of the things my mom used to say to me all the time. It was that I had a "one track mind". Once I decided on something, that was it. Now I know what I put my poor mother through. Karma: It's a bitch!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or I just had a brilliant idea! Using that chart you posted, and weather forecasts from the FAA(?), I could write up a "Chemtrail Warning Alert" for a some major cities! Imagine the possibilities! I could even come up with something similar to the Fujita scale! I could be a VIP!!!! Perhaps, over time, I could charge money for this information! I could be a millionaire! Those that take this shit seriously will then stay indoors and out of traffic, easing congestion! Imagine the fuel savings! Think of the smog reduction! Oh I am definitely on to something here! This is good! Real good!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or You and wadosy/groundresonance both lost this argument before you started.
Wrong answer. The difference is variations in dissipation rates over time. Even your "chemtrails" eventually dissipate to the point that the observations from ground can not distinguish a "chemtrail" from the sky's background. Chemtrails stay in the sky for a long time. Contrails don't. Better?
Uh huh. Sure we did. I'll leave it up to other people to decide. Perhaps THEY will be able to talk specifics instead of regurgitating the same old crap time after time. At least in this thread. Do you keep a dossier on all members here? LOL! Especially from someone that last posted over a year ago? And you know they are the same person somehow? Too bad you cant put forth the same effort in making sense in your posts in this thread.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Exactly.
I agree with you. The willfully blind won't but that is their problem.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. what if they're being caused by the 1700 gallons per hour per plane of water that's being injected into cold air that's the right humidity? If that is the case then why didn't they cause the skies to emit clouds and change the skies before. That is a big what if and the whole thing is we SHOULD KNOW not a bunch of what ifs. Do you think that if the government did decide to spray sulfa into the air they would inform the public? I don't. And therein is the problem no openness and no accountability to the public. There should be records and we should be allowed to view them.
That serves you poorly in how it exacerbates your brutally ignorant and hateful racial bigotry.
I think what makes it look like a metallic haze is aluminum oxide. That and a bunch of other things. Barium, copper, magnesium, mercury and more. edit: forgot the comma after copper
I like pancakes! I like Aunt Jemimah maple syrup! Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Some people just do not want to believe that the government would do ANYTHING that would bring harm to the citizens. Some people desire to believe that the government is generally good. It is a nice romantic notion of an honest, open, and government that actually was for the people, by the people. Unfortunately that government no longer exist. One example is the FDA. For a buck they would give us poison. I am thinking about after I see them really working the skies and those things turn into clouds the next rainfall I might capture some of the water and take it down to have it analyzed. I will have to go down and find out the different prices for the different contents but I know they do have independent water testing for wells up here.
I think catching some water and having it tested for the different medals would prove interesting. Air testing is too difficult but water testing is not.
"and more" huh? And how did you reach your conclusion? You forgot the red blood cells, bacteria, virus, the kitchen sink, pixie dust, etc. This just keeps getting more and more surreal!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or People have done it. www.rense.com/general79/chemm.htm There's more I can show you later if you like.
Clean up the oceans! Kill dolphins! They're ugly! They foul tuna nets! And I like tuna!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Here's another...
One example is the FDA. For a buck they would give us poison. And for another buck refuse to allow you to have drugs already proven effective in other countries. I am thinking about after I see them really working the skies and those things turn into clouds the next rainfall I might capture some of the water and take it down to have it analyzed. I will have to go down and find out the different prices for the different contents but I know they do have independent water testing for wells up here. Sounds like a good plan.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Better? No. Your observations do not critically differentiate between the two "independent" phenomenons. Essentially all you are saying is that water is wet and air is dry; it is nearly meaningless.
You bring up an excellent point. Maybe government has nothing better to do but obfuscate the difference between chemtrails and contrails to begin with? Maybe the government is intentionally keeping our eyes on the sky wondering what is going up there so we don't see what is happening in Washington DC. Just a thought.
Has anyone ever told you that you have a comprehension problem?
I suppose... what on Earth do you think this means relevant to little plumes of water vapor to larger plumes of water vapor emitted by relative high altitude jets as witnessed from the ground?
A flight plan over the the whole of the US over a 24-hour period. Google employee and artist Aaron Koblin uses data from the US Federal Aviation Administration to create maps of air traffic over a 24-hour period UK telegraph The week in pictures: 18 December 2009
That's a loaded question. You're arguing like a little girl, Buck.
I can't breathe. I need help.
So?
I have been "nice" and "kind" to this moment. Now, my bearing and demeanor is changing. You don't answer any questions; you don't support your own thesis with facts, figures and demonstrable technical details to convince me or anyone that you are just yammering.
Modern art? A flight plan over Atlanta over a 24-hour period. The focus is Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport in Georgia Striking kaleidoscopic images capture flight paths over America UK daily mail 17th December 2009
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“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#608. To: groundresonance (#602)
you cant make any calculations, i dont think, without knowing the temp and humidity... altitude isnt so critical.
die kill ~~ Me
#609. To: wudidiz groundresonance (#606)
Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails
#610. To: randge (#609)
This bears looking into, no?
#611. To: groundresonance (#610)
#612. To: PSUSA (#608)
Calculations would only be a SWAG
How Much Water In Gallons Per Cubic Foot Of Air At 74 Degrees F And 40% Relative Humidity?
#613. To: wudidiz (#604)
Appeal to Ridicule
#614. To: buckeroo (#613)
Why not appeal to reason?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#615. To: wudidiz (#614)
Chemtrails stay in the sky. Contrails don't.
#616. To: groundresonance (#612)
die kill ~~ Me
#617. To: PSUSA (#616)
Where to go from there? I don't know ;)
#618. To: James Deffenbach (#544)
It seems that the naysayers can't tell us why the chemtrails hang on and on while contrails dissipate rather quickly and don't make a hazy mess of the sky. They deny the evidence seen by their own eyes. Willfully blind and you can't help them.
#619. To: MiracleRose7 (#618)
The bottom line is what is causing them
#620. To: buckeroo (#578)
Did you see post #565 from groundresonance? He introduces the Appleman Chart. You can follow one link here ....
die kill ~~ Me
#621. To: groundresonance, all, all chemtrail believers, wudidiz, buckeroo (#619)
die kill ~~ Me
#622. To: PSUSA (#620)
You know, this topic reminds me of one of the things my mom used to say to me all the time. It was that I had a "one track mind". Once I decided on something, that was it.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#623. To: buckeroo (#615)
Chemtrails stay in the sky. Contrails don't.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#624. To: wudidiz (#622)
You and wadosy/groundresonance both lost this argument before you started.
die kill ~~ Me
#625. To: MiracleRose7, James Deffenbach (#618)
Whatever they are they did not use to be there
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#626. To: MiracleRose7 (#618)
The bottom line is what is causing them and why don't we ALL know. I am sure we would agree on that.
Lord Acton
#627. To: groundresonance (#619)
The bottom line is what is causing them
#628. To: PSUSA (#620)
"You know, this topic reminds me of one of the things my mom used to say to me all the time. It was that I had a "one track mind". Once I decided on something, that was it."
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#629. To: MiracleRose7 (#627)
(Edited)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#630. To: Ferret (#628)
That serves you poorly in how it exacerbates your brutally ignorant and hateful racial bigotry.
die kill ~~ Me
#631. To: James Deffenbach, wudidiz, groundresonance, buckeroo, ALL (#626)
I agree with you. The willfully blind won't but that is their problem.
#632. To: wudidiz (#629)
#633. To: wudidiz (#629)
That and a bunch of other things. Barium, copper magnesium, mercury and more.
die kill ~~ Me
#634. To: MiracleRose7 (#632)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#635. To: Ferret (#628)
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die kill ~~ Me
#636. To: MiracleRose7 (#632)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#637. To: MiracleRose7 (#631)
Lord Acton
#638. To: wudidiz (#623)
Chemtrails stay in the sky for a long time. Contrails don't.
#639. To: MiracleRose7 (#631)
Some people just do not want to believe that the government would do ANYTHING that would bring harm to the citizens. Some people desire to believe that the government is generally good. It is a nice romantic notion of an honest, open, and government that actually was for the people, by the people. Unfortunately that government no longer exist.
#640. To: buckeroo (#638)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#641. To: wudidiz (#640)
#642. To: All (#619)
#643. To: buckeroo (#641)
I suppose... what on Earth do you think this means relevant to little plumes of water vapor to larger plumes of water vapor emitted by relative high altitude jets as witnessed from the ground?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#644. To: groundresonance (#642)
#645. To: groundresonance (#642)
Google employee and artist Aaron Koblin uses data from the US Federal Aviation Administration to create maps of air traffic over a 24-hour period
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#646. To: wudidiz (#643)
#647. To: All (#642)
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