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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
Source: [None]
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Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 23648
Comments: 715

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It's obvious that someone devoted a LOT of time and effort in order to debunk chemtrails as much as possible. Now WHY would someone do that, and where do they get their funding?

It costs about $100 per year to put up a website. Once that is paid, it just takes time and effort. You don't need funding. Now, do you have any specific disagreements about the info presented there?

People who feel that they are alerting people to danger do what they do for altruistic reasons, where those who try to debunk those dangers do so for other reasons.

It all depends on whether the danger is real, or a hoax that took on a life of its own because some of us are all too willing to believe our .gov is capable of doing this. Just because they are dirtbags of the lowest order doesn't mean they are guilty of everything attributed to them. Just the things we all agree on are bad enough without going off on these tangents.

There is nothing "altruistic" about lying, intentional or not.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   14:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

More bullshit.

I refer to post 382 where he said, and I quote, " My guess... photoshopped WWII 'chemtrails' from modern 'Truth is Lies' disinfo site: "

I asked for proof of that photoshopping, in post 384, because I don't give a tinkers damn about anyones "guesses". I can guess about things all day long, but it doesn't mean a thing.

I'm allowed to guess and admit when I am. Just as you are and do as well.

I don't know exactly what the site is or how the pictures came to be on the site, so I honestly say that I'm guessing.

I do know they aren't contrails. Simply because contrails dissipate and disappear. Regardless of what anyone says.

I do know that the pictures you presented as proof of contrails in WWII are of chemtrails. Why they are there I can only guess. Maybe it was an airshow.

I don't really care why.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   14:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do know that the pictures you presented as proof of contrails in WWII are of chemtrails. Why they are there I can only guess. Maybe it was an airshow.

I don't really care why.

Very telling. Please remember, this is *YOUR* thread.

"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   14:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do know that the pictures you presented as proof of contrails in WWII are of chemtrails. Why they are there I can only guess. Maybe it was an airshow.

And there we have it.

Damn.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   14:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do know that the pictures you presented as proof of contrails in WWII are of chemtrails. Why they are there I can only guess. Maybe it was an airshow.

Actually - that the contrails were unusually vivid may be one of the reasons the photo survived - as a novelty because it is the exception rather than the rule. Taken up close, from another plane in the squadron, they would look denser than from the ground - but it still does not show the tails of contrails which is what makes is suspect i.e., that if one could see a larger frame one would see the contrails fading as per normal - within 20 to 30 minutes.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-15   15:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The thing is, I only first noticed VERY unusual "contrails" back in the mid 90's, so it wasn't that I was convinced by the Internet evidence,

The devil is in the details. Specific information is required.

I first noticed the emerging police state and the loss of freedoms around that time. Did the police state exist before that? Yes. Just because you first notice something does not mean that is when it started. It just means that is when it caught your attention.

Noticing things is not specific information.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   15:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And there we have it.

And there we have what?

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   15:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I decided to change my tagline providing everyone the actual post of your perspective.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   15:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I should be sporting your famous quote right now.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   15:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As you wish. I do not see any reason to repudiate it or be bothered by your use of it.

I can back up what I say but just didn't bother for this thread.

Repeated experimentation has been done on military and civilian populations. It is just that the MSM will not cover it - except for the very rare acknowledgment buried in some obscure section of a newspaper OR the occasional disinfo piece to provide "plausible deniability" as happened when it got out that the U.S. Military used Nerve Gas in Southeast Asia.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-15   15:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you for your support, Buck.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   15:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can back up what I say but just didn't bother for this thread.

you "didnt bother" to back up what you say because you cant.

you cant post proof of increased mortality rates due to "chemtrails".

you cant post proof of "chemtrail" support infrastucture or personnel.

you cant post proof of "chemtrails" existing in places that are not explained by well-understood chemical and physical processes.

you cant post proof of "chemtrail" chemical composition.

you cant post proof of supposed motive for the "chemtrail" operation.

.

it's not that you "dont bother"... it's simply that you cant.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   15:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you for sharing.

Do we feel better now?

Please post the details and specifics of ANY ongoing Classified (Top Secret or Above) Project.

I'll be waiting.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-15   15:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please post the details and specifics of ANY ongoing Classified (Top Secret or Above) Project.

if this "chemtrail" project is so secret, how come you know about it?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   15:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you for your support, Buck.

You are welcome. I am committed to make this the largest thread on 4um, ever.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   15:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can back up what I say but just didn't bother for this thread.

I would enjoy reading your thoughts ..... assuming you aren't bothered. Just ping me when you have crossed the t's and dotted the i's ... thanks in advance.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   15:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am committed to make this the largest thread on 4um, ever.

Fantastic.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am committed to make this the largest thread on 4um, ever.

Here's your competition.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   15:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's your competition.

Views: 58445 Comments: 19

With just a few remarcks, I challenge the REAL number of independent and distinct views. I wager, that was SKYDRIFTER sitting at home manually "clicking" on the thread for several days in a row.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   16:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

...I wager...

Are you guessing?

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"I am committed to make this the largest thread on 4um, ever." ~ buckeroo, Circa today

Ahem...

We're gonna need some help here...

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am suggesting that the number of replys are too small to warrant the number of views. Most threads (of any serious discussion) have an average view factor to posts of 4:1. This is true EVERYWHERE on the Internet.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   16:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We're gonna need some help here...

Even Mudbot's thread:

Title: "More MUD!!"
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.cagle.com/working/080403/olle.jpg
Published: Apr 15, 2008
Author: Mudboy Slim
Post Date: 2008-04-15 11:33:52 by Mudboy Slim
Keywords: None
Views: 4039
Comments: 796

contains a similar ratio as I was earlier suggesting. And he made the preponderance of posts with very few exceptions.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   16:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please post the details and specifics of ANY ongoing Classified (Top Secret or Above) Project.

if this "chemtrail" project is so secret, how come you know about it?

Gosh that's a real toughie Ninpo old buddy. LOL!

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-15   16:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can back up what I say but just didn't bother for this thread.

Please post the details and specifics of ANY ongoing Classified (Top Secret or Above) Project.

if you are saying you know the details of a top secret project, that must mean you are part of the project.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Still addicted to bad logic and dishonestly trying to attribute to someone something they didn't say eh Ninpo old buddy?

Did I say I knew the details of any such?

NO.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-15   16:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have said that I do believe Chemtrails to be a phenomena unique from contrails, and the body of empirical evidence, no matter how hard you try to wiggle, supports that.

where's the evidence?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And there we have what?

Your admission that you only guess. You made the asinine assertion that they were spraying "chemtrails" in WW2

Here is your quote:

I do know that the pictures you presented as proof of contrails in WWII are of chemtrails. Why they are there I can only guess. Maybe it was an airshow.

You "know" that how???

I guess the alien grays are behind it. Or, that the reptilian shapeshifters are ultimately to blame, I guess, since it is well known (I guess) that the grays are the reptilians servants and have no will of their own, I guess.

I guess.

Don't guess. It only makes you look stupid. Personally I dont think you are, if I did think you were stupid I'd say so, but you do have a blind spot here. Now, I answered your questions. Let's see if you can answer mine. Here they are again:

Photoshopped? Perhaps you can provide proof of that? Your "guessing" means less than nothing.

What is the truth is lies disinfo site?

How is it possible that there aren't contrails on some of your pics, and other show them? Were they airbrushed out? Or airbrushed in? Or did the atmosphere at that altitude and time have an effect on them?

The two that you labeled as chemtrails shows B17s as well as higher altitude fighters. Did they spray back then too? Did they put spray tanks on P51s as well?

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   16:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can back up what I say but just didn't bother for this thread.

where's the evidence?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm guessing (because I don't know) the pictures were either photoshopped or they're chemtrails.

Either way they're not contrails.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess the alien grays are behind it. Or, that the reptilian shapeshifters are ultimately to blame, I guess, since it is well known (I guess) that the grays are the reptilians servants and have no will of their own, I guess.

Best sarcasm of the thread award!

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   16:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's an amazing thing to see, isn't it?

They say that there is proof, but are ... reluctant... to show the evidence. I do hope you aren't holding your breath waiting for this "evidence".

They only offer "guesses".

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   16:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ground resonance = Ninpo?

Isn't Ninpo a vagitarian?

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's an amazing thing to see, isn't it?

amazing, yes.

but also kinda scary.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm guessing (because I don't know) the pictures were either photoshopped or they're chemtrails.

Either way they're not contrails.

Prove it.

You're trying my patience. I'm sure others have me on bozo, and before all is said and done, you will add me to your bozo list. Quit playing your silly fucking games, or I will get vicious. That is a promise.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   16:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

or I will get vicious

LOL!!

Chill dude.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They say that there is proof, but are ... reluctant... to show the evidence.

i dont know which to be most scared of...

...the possibility that the ability to think has deteriorated so badly, or the possibility that the disinfo war has infested every forum on the internet.

it would be nice to be able to write it off as mere stupidity, but it seems to be way worse than that.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Personally, I think he maybe is just looking for an amusing argument. NO one can possibly be so stupid as to believe they were putting chemtrail gear on WW2 fighters, much less on bombers. Anyone stupid enough to believe that is not smart enough to use a computer.

Dumbasses don't know how heavy liquids are, and they needed all the fuel, bombs and ammo that they could carry.

Disinfo is damn near everywhere. Those that don't write it, promote it. They distrust the MSM but trust the alternative media. Both can be full of shit.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   17:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You haven't seen my vicious side yet ;)

You've seen only my mildly irritated side.

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