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Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
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URL Source: [None]
Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
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Views: 23959
Comments: 715

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#427. To: PSUSA (#425)

I'm guessing (because I don't know) the pictures were either photoshopped or they're chemtrails.

Either way they're not contrails.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: PSUSA (#425)

I guess the alien grays are behind it. Or, that the reptilian shapeshifters are ultimately to blame, I guess, since it is well known (I guess) that the grays are the reptilians servants and have no will of their own, I guess.

Best sarcasm of the thread award!

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   16:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: groundresonance (#426)

It's an amazing thing to see, isn't it?

They say that there is proof, but are ... reluctant... to show the evidence. I do hope you aren't holding your breath waiting for this "evidence".

They only offer "guesses".


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   16:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: Original_Intent, ground resonance (#423)

ground resonance = Ninpo?

Isn't Ninpo a vagitarian?


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: PSUSA (#429)

It's an amazing thing to see, isn't it?

amazing, yes.

but also kinda scary.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: wudidiz (#427)

I'm guessing (because I don't know) the pictures were either photoshopped or they're chemtrails.

Either way they're not contrails.

Prove it.

You're trying my patience. I'm sure others have me on bozo, and before all is said and done, you will add me to your bozo list. Quit playing your silly fucking games, or I will get vicious. That is a promise.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   16:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: PSUSA (#432)

or I will get vicious

LOL!!

Chill dude.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   16:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: PSUSA (#429)

They say that there is proof, but are ... reluctant... to show the evidence.

i dont know which to be most scared of...

...the possibility that the ability to think has deteriorated so badly, or the possibility that the disinfo war has infested every forum on the internet.

it would be nice to be able to write it off as mere stupidity, but it seems to be way worse than that.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   16:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: groundresonance (#434)

Personally, I think he maybe is just looking for an amusing argument. NO one can possibly be so stupid as to believe they were putting chemtrail gear on WW2 fighters, much less on bombers. Anyone stupid enough to believe that is not smart enough to use a computer.

Dumbasses don't know how heavy liquids are, and they needed all the fuel, bombs and ammo that they could carry.

Disinfo is damn near everywhere. Those that don't write it, promote it. They distrust the MSM but trust the alternative media. Both can be full of shit.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   17:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: wudidiz (#433)

You haven't seen my vicious side yet ;)

You've seen only my mildly irritated side.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   17:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: buckeroo (#420)

I keep having to ignore that damn thread.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   17:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: PSUSA (#436)

LMAO!! What are you gonna do, call me names? Insult me? Fire away.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   17:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#439. To: wudidiz (#418)

We're gonna need some help here...

Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: Mar 13, 2010
Author: kevin604bc
Post Date: 2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 1591
Comments: 435

Note the view/post ratio; which is similar to 4:1. More than that, note the number of energetic posters placing opinions and honest thoughts and considerations. There is no question this is one of the finest threads 4um has produced.

This is why I love these forums. I enjoy spirited and well-intended debate. And whether or not this thread gets into lofty clouds of thousands of posts (and relative views) I really could care less; after all it is your thread. At least you state an opinion that is consistent to challenge while maintaining respect. And this proves you have meaningful ideas about the world around you.

It doesn't get better than this on any subject under the Sun.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   17:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#440. To: wudidiz (#438) (Edited)

No, I decided that won't do any of that. It has to be worth the effort. It requires an expenditure of energy mixed with sarcasm generation, and that takes some talent and time to develop properly.

Your own posts make you look stupid enough, even though you are probably playing games here. No one can be as stupid as you are trying to portray yourself and still be able to use a keyboard.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   17:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: PSUSA (#435) (Edited)

Both can be full of shit.

there are some things that can be taken on faith: the sun will rise tomorrow...

there are some things you need proof of: the sun will come up tomorrow, planes will fly over you and spray you with chemicals that will cause... what? ...nobody seems to know what "chemtrails" are for... which kinda makes the motive uncertain...

and if you're gonna investigate a crime ---for instance, "chemtrail" spraying--- the primary thing the investigator looks for is "motive"... but nobody can say what that motive might be when it comes to "chemtrails".

the authorities these people appeal to are nutbag sites that routinely manipulate pictures to "prove" their "points"...

and for all the power inherent in the massive numbers of people who believe in "chemtrails", those people are apparently unable to muster the will to go for real proof...

..."real proof", which would be, as you originally suggested, using established rules of evidence to take direct samples of "chemtrails", analyze them, and publish the results.

all these people claim to be dead sure they can tell the difference between contrails and "chemtrails", so it's not gonna be a problem to identify a "chemtrail", jump in the plane, and take samples.

so the solution to the controversy is right there, staring everyone in the face, but nobody has the gumption to do anything about it...

...or else they know they're full of horse manure, and are afraid a real investigation will expose them as hoaxsters and/or idiots and/or psywar agents.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   17:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#442. To: groundresonance (#441)

the authorities these people appeal to are nutbag sites that routinely manipulate pictures to "prove" their "points"...

Do they? I don't know that they manipulate the pics, but they certainly cherry pick them. Then, they insert their own labels and tells us what they are. It would be interesting to see if they do manipulate them. I know nothing about how to check them, though.

I think you're right. They don't want the hoax to die. They have a vested interest in keeping it alive. Knowing from personal experience, it sucks to admit I was on the wrong track for years. It is a lot of wasted time. People here would think I was a new-age/kook/nutcase if I went over all of the stupid crap I checked out seriously.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   17:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#443. To: PSUSA (#437)

I keep having to ignore that damn thread.

Your spirited debate is required here. I am learning more than I have ever considered on the many and varied threads you have posted upon. Stay here as you find opportunity until the thread is no longer unique and stimulating. You add a breath of fresh aire ...

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   17:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#444. To: PSUSA (#442) (Edited)

I don't know that they manipulate the pics, but they certainly cherry pick them.

yeah, they do.

the original picture of the boeing test flights, the one with the tanks, has a "hazmat" warning photoshopped into it.

the picture of that goofy sponge-looking thing in the "exhaust" is a drogue for aerial refueling, and it's mounted on a pod that holds the cable and hose... the pod is not an engine at all.

article from "depleted cranium"

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   17:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: buckeroo (#443)

Hmm. THanks. But I'm not referring to this thread, but the 'more mud' thread.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   18:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#446. To: All (#444) (Edited)

the picture of that goofy sponge-looking thing in the "exhaust"...

the pod is not an engine at all.

i was mistaken in implying that the "dark government" site claimed, in their article "Chemtrail Aircraft Caught on the Ground", that the "brush- like object" was mounted in an engine.

they said it was mounted in a "spraying pod".

they did, however, manipulate the picture.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   18:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: groundresonance (#444) (Edited)

article from "depleted cranium"

Excellent link!

I especially like this:

Now having dealt with hazmat in the trucking industry, this has to be one of the silliest things I have seen today. And I've seen some silly things today, let me tell you!

It's the words "HAZMAT INSIDE".

Either someone has a great sense of humor (since it's a restroom and maybe they saw the pilot eat some burritos) or it was shopped. Saying something is "hazmat" doesn't tell anyone anything about what the hazmat is, and believe me, you need to know exactly what it is.

Putting that sign there is not worth the effort. If it's shopped, the one that did it is depending on the ignorance of readers that has never dealt with hazmat before. I say it was shopped, just because putting this there is so stupid.

Too, there is no hazmat inside. It's a fucking sprayer for Thor's sake! The hazmat label goes on the container.

This tells me that the "sprayer" graphic is shopped too. It's so amateurish.

The rest of the pics speak for themselves and the author did a great job in documenting it.

Chances are though, the True Believers will not reply so favorably. They'll call it gubbermint disinfo and ignore everything.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   19:01:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: groundresonance (#446)

Honesty, self-respect and perseverance will get you everywhere in this world.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   19:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: groundresonance (#444) (Edited)

the original picture of the boeing test flights, the one with the tanks, has a "hazmat" warning photoshopped into it.

The last comment on the link you posted has this original, showing that the pic I posted was shopped.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   19:20:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: PSUSA (#447) (Edited)

here's the original photo, originally from airliners.net, judging from the tag, via contrail science (you have to scroll down a little, click on the url at "The original photo can be found here".

no hazmat warning or sprayer number

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   19:24:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#451. To: PSUSA (#449)

you beat me to the punch.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   19:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: groundresonance (#451)

Well, now the True Believers have 2 chances to see it. LOL!

2 is twice as hard to ignore as 1 is. :)

But let me guess... They will say THAT pic was shopped...


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-15   19:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: groundresonance, wudiditz, Original_Intent (#450) (Edited)

sprayer designation

Lets say ... that some ... Shadow Government .. had the urge to spray Americans with some sort of scientific formulae to ensure some sort of capability over and beyond the common citizenry. Let's just lay that idea flat on the ground for my dialog.

Why? What is there to be gained by fellow Americans spraying their fellow man with "chemicals" beyond some conspiracy theory?

If the CIA wants to spray me with LSD... this is too cool, I can handle it.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   19:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: PSUSA (#452) (Edited)

They will say THAT pic was shopped...

at least william appleton, the photographer, seems to exist... i spose someone could get in touch with him... he might have the original negative or file or whatever...

Results 1 - 21 of about 122 for "william appleton" photos aircraft

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   19:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: buckeroo (#453)

If the CIA wants to spray me with LSD... this is too cool, I can handle it.

speaking for myself... i'm already loony enough.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   19:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: groundresonance (#455)

Yet, as a matter of fact and through this thread, Americans have a far longer longevity than ever before in history of any western nation under the Sun. You know ... the next time I see a so-called chemtrail appears in the sky, I am going to urge EVERYONE around me to breath in ..... America is the longest lasting nation on this planet.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   19:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: buckeroo (#456)

Americans have a far longer longevity than ever before in history of any western nation under the Sun.

i dont think that's right

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   19:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: groundresonance (#457)

i dont think that's right

Really?

What do you think with some kind of explicit link proving your personal consideration?

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   20:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: buckeroo (#458)

dont know how close to the truth this is...

then there's always wikiped ia

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   20:14:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: groundresonance (#459)

I love the attempt.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-15   20:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: buckeroo (#460)

I love the attempt.

well, i'm not gonna argue about it, but i will post one more reference, from the CIA, which puts america pretty far down the list, 49th, to be exact.

Country Comparison :: Life expectancy at birth

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   20:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#462. To: PSUSA, ground resonance, Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#447) (Edited)

None of this has any bearing on the simple fact that contrails dissipate and disappear quickly,
whereas chemtrails stay and spread out into a thin haze across the sky.

Sorry.

I was asked to show pictures of chemtrails equipment so I searched for 'chemtrail equipment'
in Google images and posted them here.

Whether it is actual chemtrail equipment or not is irrelevant to the truth of the matter which
is that those long trails you see criss-crossing across the sky for hundreds of miles since the
mid '90s are not from condensation from engine exhaust because contrails don't do that.
Ever.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   20:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: wudidiz (#462)

those long trails you see criss-crossing across the sky for hundreds of miles since the mid '90s are not from condensation from engine exhaust because contrails don't do that. Ever.

sorry, but they do...

so metimes

and sometimes they spread out enough to form an overcast

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-15   20:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, All (#462)

depletedcranium.com/are-these-chemtrail-planes-no/

I read through the comments at the bottom of this 'debunking' site.

Reeks like carefully crafted Psyops.

Reminds me of LP.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   20:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: wudidiz, PSUSA (#347)

Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.

exactly...and you explain why there are often 2-3 planes crisscrossing these (chem)trails across the sky at low altitude for hours at a time? what are they doing?..and, btw, they never dissipate and every time what began as a perfectly cloudless blue sky winds up a hazy gray.

christine  posted on  2010-03-15   20:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: groundresonance (#463)

sorry, but they do...

so metimes

and sometimes they spread out enough to form an overcast

Not in the real world.


"Yes they [US government] have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original Intent, circa 2010

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-15   20:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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