Title: Video Shot by Pilot Flying Along side several Chemtrail Planes Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Mar 13, 2010 Author:kevin604bc Post Date:2010-03-13 16:18:34 by wudidiz Keywords:None Views:20962 Comments:715
there are some things that can be taken on faith: the sun will rise tomorrow...
there are some things you need proof of: the sun will come up tomorrow, planes will fly over you and spray you with chemicals that will cause... what? ...nobody seems to know what "chemtrails" are for... which kinda makes the motive uncertain...
and if you're gonna investigate a crime ---for instance, "chemtrail" spraying--- the primary thing the investigator looks for is "motive"... but nobody can say what that motive might be when it comes to "chemtrails".
the authorities these people appeal to are nutbag sites that routinely manipulate pictures to "prove" their "points"...
and for all the power inherent in the massive numbers of people who believe in "chemtrails", those people are apparently unable to muster the will to go for real proof...
..."real proof", which would be, as you originally suggested, using established rules of evidence to take direct samples of "chemtrails", analyze them, and publish the results.
all these people claim to be dead sure they can tell the difference between contrails and "chemtrails", so it's not gonna be a problem to identify a "chemtrail", jump in the plane, and take samples.
so the solution to the controversy is right there, staring everyone in the face, but nobody has the gumption to do anything about it...
...or else they know they're full of horse manure, and are afraid a real investigation will expose them as hoaxsters and/or idiots and/or psywar agents.
the authorities these people appeal to are nutbag sites that routinely manipulate pictures to "prove" their "points"...
Do they? I don't know that they manipulate the pics, but they certainly cherry pick them. Then, they insert their own labels and tells us what they are. It would be interesting to see if they do manipulate them. I know nothing about how to check them, though.
I think you're right. They don't want the hoax to die. They have a vested interest in keeping it alive. Knowing from personal experience, it sucks to admit I was on the wrong track for years. It is a lot of wasted time. People here would think I was a new-age/kook/nutcase if I went over all of the stupid crap I checked out seriously.
Your spirited debate is required here. I am learning more than I have ever considered on the many and varied threads you have posted upon. Stay here as you find opportunity until the thread is no longer unique and stimulating. You add a breath of fresh aire ...
I don't know that they manipulate the pics, but they certainly cherry pick them.
yeah, they do.
the original picture of the boeing test flights, the one with the tanks, has a "hazmat" warning photoshopped into it.
the picture of that goofy sponge-looking thing in the "exhaust" is a drogue for aerial refueling, and it's mounted on a pod that holds the cable and hose... the pod is not an engine at all.
the picture of that goofy sponge-looking thing in the "exhaust"...
the pod is not an engine at all.
i was mistaken in implying that the "dark government" site claimed, in their article "Chemtrail Aircraft Caught on the Ground", that the "brush- like object" was mounted in an engine.
Now having dealt with hazmat in the trucking industry, this has to be one of the silliest things I have seen today. And I've seen some silly things today, let me tell you!
It's the words "HAZMAT INSIDE".
Either someone has a great sense of humor (since it's a restroom and maybe they saw the pilot eat some burritos) or it was shopped. Saying something is "hazmat" doesn't tell anyone anything about what the hazmat is, and believe me, you need to know exactly what it is.
Putting that sign there is not worth the effort. If it's shopped, the one that did it is depending on the ignorance of readers that has never dealt with hazmat before. I say it was shopped, just because putting this there is so stupid.
Too, there is no hazmat inside. It's a fucking sprayer for Thor's sake! The hazmat label goes on the container.
This tells me that the "sprayer" graphic is shopped too. It's so amateurish.
The rest of the pics speak for themselves and the author did a great job in documenting it.
Chances are though, the True Believers will not reply so favorably. They'll call it gubbermint disinfo and ignore everything.
here's the original photo, originally from airliners.net, judging from the tag, via contrail science (you have to scroll down a little, click on the url at "The original photo can be found here".
#453. To: groundresonance, wudiditz, Original_Intent (#450)(Edited)
sprayer designation
Lets say ... that some ... Shadow Government .. had the urge to spray Americans with some sort of scientific formulae to ensure some sort of capability over and beyond the common citizenry. Let's just lay that idea flat on the ground for my dialog.
Why? What is there to be gained by fellow Americans spraying their fellow man with "chemicals" beyond some conspiracy theory?
If the CIA wants to spray me with LSD... this is too cool, I can handle it.
at least william appleton, the photographer, seems to exist... i spose someone could get in touch with him... he might have the original negative or file or whatever...
Yet, as a matter of fact and through this thread, Americans have a far longer longevity than ever before in history of any western nation under the Sun. You know ... the next time I see a so-called chemtrail appears in the sky, I am going to urge EVERYONE around me to breath in ..... America is the longest lasting nation on this planet.
#462. To: PSUSA, ground resonance, Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#447)(Edited)
None of this has any bearing on the simple fact that contrails dissipate and disappear quickly, whereas chemtrails stay and spread out into a thin haze across the sky.
Sorry.
I was asked to show pictures of chemtrails equipment so I searched for 'chemtrail equipment' in Google images and posted them here.
Whether it is actual chemtrail equipment or not is irrelevant to the truth of the matter which is that those long trails you see criss-crossing across the sky for hundreds of miles since the mid '90s are not from condensation from engine exhaust because contrails don't do that. Ever.
those long trails you see criss-crossing across the sky for hundreds of miles since the mid '90s are not from condensation from engine exhaust because contrails don't do that. Ever.
Contrails (from condensation) follow the plane only a few lengths behind and dissipate quickly. Chemtrails (from sprayed mineral compounds) stay and spread across the sky into a haze.
exactly...and you explain why there are often 2-3 planes crisscrossing these (chem)trails across the sky at low altitude for hours at a time? what are they doing?..and, btw, they never dissipate and every time what began as a perfectly cloudless blue sky winds up a hazy gray.
if you cant prove the altitude of the airplane, and prove the temperature and humidity of the air mass at that altitude, you have no idea whether or not contrails are possible.
a photo or an "observation" is not proof of altitude, temperature or humidity.
well, i'm not gonna argue about it, but i will post one more reference, from the CIA, which puts america pretty far down the list, 49th, to be exact.
Country Comparison :: Life expectancy at birth
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Most of those patients in search of the best care, including 38% from Latin America, 35% from the Middle East, 16% from Europe and 7% from Canada, are heading to the United States.
so how many people are traveling for medical care?
a report from 2008 found that a plurality of an estimated 60,000 to 85,000 medical tourists were traveling to the United States for the purpose of receiving in-patient medical care.