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Title: Do You Mind If Mint Sells Data Based On Your Transactions?
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://consumerist.com/2010/03/do-y ... ased-on-your-transactions.html
Published: Mar 16, 2010
Author: By Chris Walters
Post Date: 2010-03-17 18:54:13 by DeaconBenjamin
Keywords: None
Views: 100
Comments: 2

Financial blogger Felix Salmon wants to know why there isn't regulatory oversight of Mint and other financial management websites, especially if they're going to sell data created from their users' transaction histories.

Mint's CEO Aaron Patzer spoke at SXSW on Saturday and said that the company is sitting on a gold mine of customer data that it may or may not sell. Here's how Salmon paraphrases it in his blog post:

[Patzer] started talking about the rich value of all the store-level data he was sitting on. For instance, he said, he can see pretty much in real time how much money his huge database of customers is, in aggregate, spending at Blockbuster vs Netflix vs Redbox, or any other set of retailers — and that kind of information would surely be extremely valuable to hedge funds. It was clearly something he’s talked a lot about, and he never said that he wasn’t already selling that data to the highest bidder. If that kind of activity is going on, especially if Mint is using data retrieved using the username and password to my own personal bank accounts, then I would certainly want some kind of regulatory oversight.

That was enough to convince consumer lawyer Sam Glover over at caveat emptor to close his Mint account, explaining:

If I am to do my banking online, I need to be confident that my financial information is being kept secure. This is not like Google, where I can stomach giving up a bit of anonymized usage data in exchange for great software. No, when it comes to my financial information, I do not want my data sold to the highest bidder.

Mint's Terms of Service point out that in order to provide a service to you, it must access your accounts, but that it does so as your agent and not as an agent of any financial institutions. I couldn't find any mention of aggregate data or of how Mint would use such data with outside partners or customers, though.

What do you think? If Mint or a similar website tracked every Netflix fee you paid and bundled it anonymously with other users' transactions, then sold it, would you feel it violated your privacy? And should financial websites be regulated even if they're not providing actual bank-related financial services?

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#1. To: DeaconBenjamin (#0)

Is this guy a goober, or what?

What the hell is he asking?

Lod  posted on  2010-03-17   21:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

He's discussing a popular financial software.

Privacy and Security / How Mint Keeps You Safe

Why you’re safe and secure with Mint.com

CEO Aaron Patzer Explains How to Use Mint’s Online Finance Software Mint.com's Founder and CEO Aaron Patzer talks security.

* We provide bank-level security. Mint.com uses 128-bit SSL encryption and 24/7 physical security.

* You cannot move money. Mint.com is a read-only service, no transfers are possible — in or out.

* You register anonymously. We don’t need your name or any personally identifiable info.

* Our alerts increase your financial security. We notify you of possible fraudulent transactions on all accounts.

Mint provides bank-level data security for the transaction information we store.

* Mint.com always transmits personal and financial information securely.
* We store transaction information in a secure facility, on our own servers, protected by 24/7 security guards and biometric scanners.
* All our employees pass financial and criminal background checks as a condition of employment.
* All our employees pass background checks as a condition of employment.
* The Mint.com website has received the VeriSign security seal and is tested daily by Hackersafe.
* Our privacy protection standards are certified by TRUSTe.
* We subscribe to an anti-phishing service to discover and take-down malicious sites intended to fool our customers.

You cannot move money with Mint.
Mint.com offers valuable insights and analytic tools to help you better understand your money…but Mint.com is a "read only" service. Meaning: you can view and organize your money with Mint.com, but you cannot move money between—or out of—your bank, credit union or credit card accounts. You register anonymously— we don’t need your name or any personally identifiable info.

* All you need to use Mint.com is a valid email address, password and zip code. We don’t need your name or any personally identifiable info.
* We ask for your online banking user name and passwords so that we can connect securely to your financial institutions
* Your online banking credentials are stored securely so that Mint.com can automatically update your transactions— saving you from updating, syncing or uploading financial information manually.

Mint alerts can increase your financial security.
Mint.com provides 24/7 protection through proactive email and text alerts to to notify you about any large purchases or unusual charges in your accounts. We let you know what’s happening and when, so you’ll be able to react quickly to recover your personal finances, credit score and identity and avoid any potential damage

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-03-18   0:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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