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Title: The System (Also Known As Babylon)
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URL Source: http://freedomdomain.com/Main/system_babylon.html
Published: Mar 18, 2010
Author: freedomdomain.com
Post Date: 2010-03-18 16:55:21 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Views: 162
Comments: 5

The System (Also Known As Babylon)

Is the system oppressing you? Do you feel that the system is oppressive? Is the system "unfair"? Do you feel that the system need to be "overhauled" or "destroyed"? Is the system inherently "evil"?

These are valid questions that most people should be wondering about from time to time. I know I wondered for years, about how we could support a system that is so oppressive and evil. At least that is how I have felt in the past. And I have wondered to myself many times how is it that people completely support the system and keep supporting it, despite knowing how detrimental it is to their lives.

Every hippy, anarchist, and freethinker I have ever known has brought about the idea that money is inherently evil, that the system needs to be "abondoned" and we need to develop entirely new systems that allow us to be free. Most people I know that are well researched have put forth the proposition that the Federal Reserve is the source of and heart of the problem. Fractional reserve banking and it's resulting inflation and devaluation of the dollar, are the causes that most learned economists argue, are at the heart of the problem here in America. That may be true, and I used to believe that, but I'm not so sure I can agree completely any more.

New information that has been confirmed through sources in the area of Banking, and including, but not limited to sources within the US Treasury and IRS, gives us reason to believe that there may be nothing wrong at all with the system. That's right, that's what I said. There may be NOTHING wrong with the system at all. We may in fact, have the PERFECT SYSTEM in place already here in America, and perhaps globally as well. By now you must be wondering what on Earth i'm talking about and how could I possibly arrive at this conclusions, right? Well, I will answer that.

What if, instead of the system being screwed up, it was US instead who were screwed up? Like you and me and the rest of society, individually? What if we were so dumbed down that it was impossible to see how the system could possibly benefit us, because of our complete lack of understanding of how things within the system work.

What if we were only looking at each cog in the wheel individually, and saw this great machine in front of us, all built up, and being used to destroy lives of innocent people? Would that make the machine inherently evil? Or would it say something about the machine? Would it say it could ONLY be used for evil purposes? Well, it would look that way to anyone viewing it from a limited perspective. Correct? But that would not mean the machine could not be used for other purposes, correct? What if the machine were only understood by a few people who were in control of it and running it, and it was THEM who were evil, and not the machine? What if we were so stupid from our public educational process, that we only lacked the understanding of how to run the machine and use it for ourselves?

What if it were THAT simple? Would you learn how to use the machine? If you understood on a deeply spiritual, and psychic level, and saw the machine in all it's glory, for all it's uses and potential, and capabilities, and saw how it was being used to hurt innocent people? And what if you understood profoundly that it was very simple how it workeed, but people needed to be taught and ot be helped to understand it for what it can do for the benefit of the people?

Would you learn how to use it? Would you learn how to harness it's powers and uses for YOUR purposes? Would you be determined enough to learn how it works, so that you could wrestle the power away from the individuals using it for evil purposes and redirect it's uses for beneficial purposes? What if all you needed to do was learn how to play Monopoly again? But learn it backwards?

What I am suggesting here, is that we need to learn a lot about our history and money, and freedom, but in the end, we need to understand Redemption.

The system is nothing more than a tool, similar to a hammer. It can be used to build things or to smash people over the head. It's very simple, actually.

The system I am referring to here is a system that only a few people really understand, and it's mostly the Sovereigns that deserve the credit here. The Freemasonic System of Admiralty Law and International Commerce. That is precisely what I am referring to.

There is a system in place that has kept the rich, rich, and the poor, poor, but not because it's evil, only because there are very few people who truly understand how to use it.

People in the know, refer to them as the International Bankers. The Merchants of the Temple would be another name for them. The Knights Templars, the Temple Banks, and the whole conceot of banking in general came from the Templars. Why would you need a bank to protect your money, especially an international Temple Bank? Well, because if you don't let them control it, they will take it away from you anyways...what's why. They used to do that in the old days. Now they still do, they just call it something different. Pirate booty of the high seas is now called "Asset Seizure and Forfeiture" by the IRS. It is all done in Admiralty Proceedings. Just like on the High Seas.

How is it that an Agency of the Government we the People created, could take anyything away from us that they want to? Isn't that more akin to Communism? Well, the Illuminati, Jesuits, Freemasons, International Banksters, One World Mafia Criminal Extortion Gang of Dragon Families have decided that America would become the centralized nation for law merchant to rule THROUGH law statutes of dejure Government. (I believe I phrased that accurately)

So, what did they do?

In America, and now internationally, they have catipulted the economies of the world into a fictional atmospheric hot air bubble. We have the Common Law, and Constitutional Law. We have Roman Civil Law, and Merchant Law, in Admiralty Maritime. And we now have local and global corporations, and before we had multinational, and now we have transnational corporations. We have the United Nation, NAFTA, GATT, and Global Treaties with a host of countries that are party to one treaty, but not party to another, and one constitutional government, being influneced by international and foreign jurisdictions....how does it all come together one must ask?

All these systems everywhere, fictional corporations, assumptions of power left and right, presumptions of innocence , guilt, etc.....

It appears to be a spiders web that only the most intelligent spider could use to trap it's prey.......

That's what I thought, in the past...but now I live to see a brighter day.

The web of manipulation is becoming easier and easier to unravel each and every day. The lines of the Matrix are becoming more and more clear, and all of the illusion is about to be wiped away.

Who is alive? Who is real? Who is a living and breathing flesh and blood entity? Who has rights? Who has the right to contract? YOU DO (Blessed You in all your Glory, as a living breathing, flesh and blood human being, endowed with life by the creator, the almighty. (Thank you God/dess)

Who created the corporations, the dead, fictional, lifeless entities?

Living, breathing, flesh and blood people like you and me. That's who created them.

Do lifeless, fictional, dead, corpse entities have control over the flesh and blood real living people of the Earth? OF COURSE NOT !!!!!!!

But, if the real, living, flesh and blood, people are so dumbed down, and asleep on their rights, and completely fogetting they are alive, and have power, then yes, dead corporations can say and do anything they want to....why? Because they have your consent! That's why!

Where does money come from?
What IS money?
What is "Value"?
Is "Value" the same as "money"?
Where does "Value" come from?
Who has the right to give "Value"?
How does one go about giving "Value" to something?

Only the living, breathing, flesh and blood human being can give value to something, and value comes after "consideration" is given. Consideration requires thought faculties that corporations are not capable of giving, of themselves.

Fictional entities cannot entertain "thought" or consideration. Unless they are endowed with that ability, and corporations have the right to contract, just as living breathing, flesh and blood people do. But it takes a living, breathing, flesh and blood person, to SIGN for that corporation to come into existence. It required the thought and consideration of a real. live, flesh and blood human being, to breath life into the corporation.

So, in order for any corporation to exist, there had to be a living, breathing, flesh and blood person, who created it, by SIGNING something.

So, if a signature can create a corporation, what else can a signature do?

Can a signature Create money?
Can a signature Create debt?
Is "debt" ever considered "money"?
Are "debts" spendable?
Corporations "spend" debt all the time.
Are they not in essence creating "money"?

Who has the right to contract?
Who has the right to go into "debt"?

(if you need a little hint here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU DO !!!!!!!!!)

WHO has the right to use their signature to create "debt" / "wealth" ???

(Hint : Any living, breathing, flesh and blood human being on God/dess's Green Earth, that's WHO.) -- And yes, that's YOU!

Do you truly want to be free?
Do you want others to stop oppressing you?

Were the French revolutionaries, Jesuitical influences truly "Tyrants"? Or were they "tyrants who wanted to truly be free?" -- And if they were truly tyrants who truly wanted to be free, then how could it come to be that they would become the oppressors themselves throughout history? Ponder these questions for a moment. Please.

Freedom goes so far, as long as it does not oppress others. When freedom goes further, and it becomes the freedom to oppress others, then it is either done by consent or by direct force. And it changes from freedom to tyranny again. Back into it's own vicious cycle. The cycle of Freedom and Tyranny. This is what mankind is at constant dilemma to harness and understand and manipulate. It is also the heart within our hearts. The beating that we all feel.

We all want to be free, but some people have a completely different idea of what freedom really is.

When freedom goes so far that it resrtricts another's freedom by force, then that freedom needs to be kept in check.

So, in our system we have the system of what we call "checks" and "balances". For every "check" there must be a "balance". The "balance is actually where we want to be. That is where freedom lies. Within "Balance".

Our economy is naturally based on a system that goes way back before the founding of the country. The laws of merchants and high seas were around long before the establishing of any settlements on American soil. And our economy is an extension of the direct inter-relations of countries in trans-atlantic and -pacific agreements. Everything that makes up the fabric of our society has at it's roots, commerce and "expansion" of the colonies in the Americas. The great "expansion" of civilization is made possible by agreements and contracts that do not necessarily include money as a medium of exchange, or at least what we percieve and view commonly, to be money. The "expansion" of civilization has been made possible by the "extension of credit" internationally.

Who has been extending that credit? Well, that is important, is it not? That means we owe to them a great deal, do we not? Whoever, constructed the roadway we call and live by, the economic highway, would be a group of masterful geniuses by and large, would they not be? Well, we as humanity have been going down along this road we call the economic highway, "commerce" for short, and it's ruled by a set of laws called the Law Merchant. The laws of commerce passed down for centuries, basically, the blueprint of babylon, if you will......

Well, there have always been outlaws, right? There have always been those who did not want to play by the rules, so an entirely NEW set of rules needed to come into existance, because those are the only rules the outlaws go by, in order to show a common respect for each other, so they don't kill each other, as individual Sovereignties out there on the frontier. That is the law of Pirates or the Law of the High Seas. Take what you want, and fuckem if they don't like it. Well, if they really, REALLY don't like it, they'll kill you for screwing them, right? But not if if was done with your consent, over time, and engrained on your children down through generations and generations. Then it would not matter the level of censent, because there would be consent through , passive aquiescence. This is the way it has been done to us by the outlaw pirates, folks...wake up folks, wake up, right now, we have been tricked by a small group of criminal pirate worldwide gangster dragon families. We live under the law of Pirates now here in the United States, it's called the Law Admiralty/ Maritime Jurisdiction. And it's ruled by a set of laws. The law of the Pirates. Admiraly / Maritime International Law of Freemasonry. And it all boils down to simple contracts, folks.

What governs the law of Contracts?
Uniform Commercial Code governs the law of contracts. The UCC is statutized in each state. Each state formally recognizes and adopts UCC standards.

If I was a Pirate and I want to steal your ship and all it's cargo and contents, etc., then in the old days, I would just come along and take it. But with Pirate formalities and such, as they are now a days, the UCC maintains that I must inform you of this siezure in advance, at least, in case you have any objection, or want to settle the claim somehow.

Basically, if I wanted to make a siezure of your vessel, I would be making a claim of some kind, in fact. I would at least "claim" to own your vessel from this point on, right? So, its a form of a "claim".

Well, if I am making a "claim" now there are courts for these matters, to hear them. So, I would bring my (or rather, your previous) vessel to court, in paper, at least, by Title, and show how I aquired my right, and if so, by what right did I aquire it, and was it done properly according to Pirate conduct. (Admiralty and Merchant).

So, here we are in court, making claims, now, about who owns what, and for how long, and who it belonged to before that, and how did they aquire it, and was it done properly, and lawfully, and so on.

This is where we find ourselves today, here in America, picking up the pieces and trying to figure out what we own, and who owns what, and who owes who, how much and for how long, and so on.......

But, in the process of it all, we forgot who owns ourselves. We own ourselves. I own myself, and to no-one do I owe anything to. I owe nobody anything in this world. I owe it to myself to do the best I can. But I owe no-one any debt coming into this world. We are all born Free. Or at least we should be born Free, and have the right to be, and I realize that not all in this world are so fortunate. But nonetheless we owe nothing to anyone but ourselves, and nobody else own us, as individuals. People are Free in nature, and natural theory.

So lets stop and ask ourselves something here. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that "if I was not aware of the process of the Uniform Commercial Code and if I was not even aware of it's existance until now", and taking into consideration how much influence it has on our lives, if you could say to yourself, "what if this has been controlling me all along, and my lack of understanding of how it all works", and if you could realize that all it takes is a determination to understand a new set of rules, a fairly simple set of rules, actually, that "wow I could actually be free in this world", wouldn;t you want to learn it as fast as you could, like the new game of monopoly?

These are the rules of the new game.
Simple : HJR-192 - June 5, 1933 - One Simple Rule to Remember. All liabilities have been removed from the individual, and shifted to the corporate body politic. Social Security is YOUR Limited Liability Insurance Policy indemifying YOU personally from injuries due to the removal of money of "substance", i.e., gold, silver, from circulation. Your are personally EXEMPT from all liabilities incurred by virtue of your status of citizenship and birthright.

NO CONTRACTS CAN COME FORTH THAT CALL FOR PAYMENT IN SUBSTANCE.............PERIOD -

ALL DEBTS MUST BE DISCHARGED -- (That means NOTHING is ever "PAID in FULL")

LIKE FOR LIKE

DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR

SIGNATURE FOR SIGNATURE

Now what do you want to do about it all?

May I suggest to "take charge"?

What does that mean?
Many things, of course.

Take charge could be to become the leader, and take the lead.
Take charge could be to Accept the Charge, and add it to your own portfolio.
Or take charge could be a way to assert control over your affairs, and your life, and take care of what you need to know for your own good. Like Learning the UCC and how "money" works.

A conveneint way to "Take Charge" is to take control over the vessel, that belongs to YOU, the flesh and blood, living, breathing human being. This vessel has your name on it......in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS., called your "Dummy / Strawman" Corporation created for you, by your Birth Certificate, (Certifying a Value) which entered you into "commerce" when they Registered your Certificate with the "Department of Commerce", but it's floating around on the high seas (of commerce) without a navigator or a Captain at the helm. You may want to take control of that entity, because if you aren't controlling it, then someone else may be, and probably is. A UCC-1 and a Bond with Your Strawman, is one way to take control of the vessel.

As a matter of fact, we have found evidence that our Birth Certificates and Social Security Numbers are being used by international traders on the marketplaces, and the TITLES to our "Vessels" (Our Bodies) are being traded back and forth by rogue slave traders, mostly rogue agents of the BEIC, I would imagine, since the BEIC became Washington DC, and anyone using the Titles without our express consent, would be a rogue agent.

The next step to Freedom for any individual would be to set up their Account properly, as to give authorization for the use of the Account (Exemption), to the Treasury, who created it. If you are the Person who created a debt, you are also the person, who must give authorization in order to use your Account to Discharge the Obligation. So, one way to do this would be to Deposit a Certified Copy of Your Birth Certificate with the Treasury Department, as a Deposit and Chargeback.

Until this is done, it is likely that someone has been using the Title to your Vessel to accrue all kinds of international debts, and likely you are being held accountable for these debts without even knowing it.

(Take Charge, Then Chargeback) -

And now that you have taken control of your Vessel, and you know nobody else is going to be using it, because YOU are now using it for your benefit, you can sail on your vessel in luxury, knowing you own it now, and you have the Priority Claim. You are now Primary Lienholder on your Vessel, and that says a lot. Your filing in the UCC is your evidence of your position in line, and first in line, is the first position. Your position is now on Record.

Who can now make a claim?
If anyone does, are they going to be in first position?
Will they have to get behind you, in order to get their claim satisfied?

Well, what if someone comes in with a claim against your Vessel, (Strawman), and get's all hot and ancy with you?
What can you do?

How about settling the claim by Accepting it For Value, giving "Value" to it with your signature, and directing the chargeback through the Treasury? Wouldn't the Treasury then liquidate the claim, using your Exemption for "Set-Off"? Isn't that the purpose of the Limited Liablity Insurance Policy Called Social Security Insurance, created right after the Bankruptcy of 1933?

Now before you go out doing anything which may harm the "public", you may want to post a "bond" of some sort, like an Indemnity Bond on your Exemption, to indemnify, against all possible damages your ship may cause at Seas (US Commerce) to other vessels also at Sea. Thereby creating an insurance pool for those at risk.

Now you can sail on merrily, Free as the wind and where it will take you on the sea. Hopefully Forever Free.

and in the meantime...the international bankster masons will wonder amongst themselves, what are we going to do if Josh keeps emitting letters of credit from his website,

he is surely a credit to society....

whatever will we do to try to discredit him?

he is teaching all about credits and debits...oh my!....what will the Queen say?

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he is teaching all about credits and debits...oh my!....what will the Queen say?

Excerpt from 'Scarlet & the Beast volume II: The War between English & French Freemasonry'

by John Daniel, JKI Publishing, Tyler Texas 1994, pages 25-6.

“In January 1983 the Queen (Elizabeth II) and her consort toured the United States. There seemed to be no apparent reason for her visit other than the honor bestowed on her by the Bohemian Club of California during the last evening of her stay. It was quite an extravaganza.

The Bohemian Club is the West Coast center for the inner elite of Templar Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the United States. Some of its members are Senator Alan Cranston, FBI Director William Webster and former secretaries of state George Schultz and Henry Kissinger.

On February 3, 1983, a five-minute segment of the Bohemian Club’s extravaganza in honor of Queen Elizabeth was aired on all three television networks. The event began with a view of the Queen sitting slightly high in the middle of the auditorium, as if on top of a pyramid. Two dancers entered the stage wearing huge hats hanging from cables. The cone of the first hat was representative of a walled city with a pyramid or ziggurat towering in the middle. Obviously, it portrayed ancient Babylon. At the base of the pyramid two doors continuously flapped open and shut displaying inside a large picture of Prince Charles, successor to the British throne, and his wife, Princess Diana. As the dancer in the hat moved stage right, the second dancer entered from stage left. The cone on the second hat portrayed the city of London, with Big Ben towering in the center. When both dancers centered themselves, with the brims of the huge hats reaching from one end of the stage to the other, a voice bellowed, “Oh Queen, you have traversed the ages from Babylon to London!” Ever so slightly and without a smile, Queen Elizabeth nodded as if in agreement to the statement.

That night the Bohemian Club, an arm of Templar Scottish Rite Freemasonry, acknowledged London as the seat of Mystery Babylon. Queen Elizabeth accepted that acknowledgment. If London is the city that the Apostle John saw in his vision, Queen Elizabeth’s life and nation will be short-lived if Jesus Christ does not tarry --- for who knows better the headquarters of its rival than the ruthless French Knights Templar Scottish Rite of Freemasonry….”

http://www.henrymakow.com/bohemian_grove_illuminati_meet.html

THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY EXTORTING TAXES FOR THE CROWN! ... www.apfn.org/apfn/bcolony.htm

========================

REDEMPTION ["Paper terrorism" according to the AntiChrist Anti-Defamation League (B'nai B'rith)]

www.truthsetsusfree.com / americacanbefree.com/

Micah 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

bible.cc/micah/4-10.htm

11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.

12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.

13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their [ILL-GOTTEN] gain unto the LORD, and their substance [See Gen. 15:13-14/Gal. 3:16,17...29/US IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY EXTORTING TAXES FOR THE CROWN] unto the Lord of the whole earth.

kingjbible.com/micah/4.htm / bible.cc/micah/4-13.htm

Isaiah 48:20 Go ye forth of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob.

bible.cc/isaiah/48-20.htm [All of Isaiah 48 and Isaiah 49 are interesting to me today, because I hesitated to post this, and something about those two chapters told me, "do it".]

Zechariah 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon.

bible.cc/zechariah/2-7.htm

Isaiah 14:2 .....and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

bible.cc/isaiah/14-2.htm

Isaiah 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: 25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders. 26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations. 27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back? http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/14.htm

12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.

13 For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:

14 And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.

15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.

16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of hosts, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.....

20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.

22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land.

24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. 26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt. 27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.

bible.cc/isaiah/10-14.htm / http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/10.htm

Isaiah 18:5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.

bible.cc/isaiah/18-5.htm / http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/18.htm

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JMP: Tim Turner 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE4E769838

December 09, 2009
John McGowan Presents Tim Turner and the American Sovereignty Movement. For more information please go to http://www.americacanbefree.com [not the website at the link in the video]

The video starts getting good at around 7.50.

Jim Turner is a Christian and believes America is a Christian nation...I don't know about the woman in the video.

I liked this comment on the video:

"...if he [referring to the naysayer on the comment page] is working for the govt, then I have a message for him to pass on to his superiors regarding all this:

PARTY'S OVER."

Here's another one I found last night : America Can Be Free - How It Works

"What if you could free yourself from the corrupt, out of control spending government, personal debt, the national debt, and the corrupt court system?

The key is to solve your "Commercial problems"

...Thanks to the generous teaching of Freedom Master, Tim Turner, we provide: Immediate organized access to questions and answers regarding the world of commerce, freedom, and learn the power of becoming a "Secured Party Creditor."

No longer will you need to wade through many hours of conference calls and random materials out there, to find the information you need now. With this system you can go directly to the discussions you need and listen to the topics you want to hear. Tim answers your common questions in this pre recorded call format. All arranged by subject and date. Access it 24/7 on your schedule.

Plus the site content is constantly updated every week with new information from the latest Tim Turner private coaching calls.

* Gain personal and financial freedom.
* Effectively deal with the national debt, personal debt, and taxes.
* Achieve financial independence faster.
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http://youhavetheright.com/#how_it_works

You can find the audios online free, but I am not sure they are catalogued like this, although I could be wrong. I have listened to some of the tapes, and they are very informative.

See also Tim Turner America Can Be Free Recorded TalkShoe.com Conference Calls at turnercalls.youhavetheright.com . I heard on a recorded Conference Call from last year [August?] that H&R Block are now filing 1099-OID's for their clients, if I am not mistaken, but don't quote me...I do know they were filing SOMETHING Turner discovered to deal with all this.

For those who don't want anything to do with Obamacare, if you are a Sovereign [or "paper terrorist" as the ADL calls it], you won't have to. If you want to READ more about being sovereign, another good site for information as to what it is and how it works, is www.discharge-debt.com .

Since the IRS will be commandeering bank accounts, you might want to learn how they trap us into making ourselves liable for taxes and control by VOLUNTEERING that we are "taxpayers" in any number of ways. Here's one:

"....I have been in the Tax Honesty Movement for about a decade. In that time I've never heard of the government bringing a civil or criminal action against a person who never (emphasis on "never") used a SSN/EIN/ITIN for his private financial affairs or for government benefits. [Every time I say this publicly, a few people come out of the woodwork to claim that the government does do this, but to this day no one has been able to provide me with any evidence of such claims.]

People must learn that a criminal trial under any provision of Title 26 is only addressing the punishment for a regulatory offense. Phrased another way, the heart of the matter is under "administrative law", but a court has been brought into the picture because the "administrative agency" wants to level a penal-type punishment for the alleged regulatory offense.

Most people believe that tax trials operate under the same rules and conditions as if you were accused of a "mala en se" crime, such as theft or murder. Their belief is incorrect. In a court that is hearing a mala en se matter, every necessary element of the crime must be proven in the courtroom. However, in a "mala prohibita" [regulatory] case some elements of the "offense" are determined by the court based on the administrative record. One element that the court determines from the administrative record is jurisdiction. In other words, whether you are a "taxpayer" need not be determined by evidence before the court (in administrative law), but rather by evidence upon the agency's official record.

Let me give you an example. For years I've heard that "banking" is a sure way to get nailed as being liable for income tax. The people who espouse this view, do so based on the fact that in many tax trials, part of the case file [part of the agency's "official record"] put together by the CID investigators is your bank signature card. Somehow this has been construed as the document that really nails your coffin closed. These folks are a little off base.

Most Americans do not know that a section of the bank's signature card is a "substitute W-9". Ironically, the words, "substitute W-9", actually appear on the signature card! No one seems to notice. A W-9 is a federal tax form. It is to be used only by taxpayers. Nontaxpayers shouldn't sign federal tax forms - at least if they want to remain nontaxpayers. When a person places his "tax number" (whether SSN, EIN, or ITIN) in that space, and then signs the signature card (above which appears the perjury clause), he is declaring, under penalty of perjury, that he is a taxpayer and that the account he is opening is related to his taxpayer activities. The government is going to take you at your word. In fact, given the opportunity, they're going to ram those words down your throat!

We can now see that the bank's signature is not the problem, per se. It is the account holder affixing his government provided taxpayer number to the account and signing it under penalty of perjury. Now do you understand why the bank's signature card often appears in the IRS' official record? In this way the agency is quietly informing the judge that YOU SAID that you're a taxpayer - and you said it under penalty of perjury. This is the same reasons that they will often request a copy of your W-4 from your employer, or ask a lender for a copy of the W-9 you signed when applying for a mortgage. These documents are used to show that you slit your own throat - voluntarily (or so the argument goes).

Now comes the poor defendant (aka: government victim). The defendant demands that the prosecutor produce the law that makes him liable. The deep dark secret that no one tells the poor defendant is that government's perspective is that since you already swore under penalty of perjury that you're a taxpayer, there is no longer any requirement to "prove" that you're a taxpayer by producing a statute. After all, you must know better than the prosecutor and the court what tax you're liable for because you provided the government's tax number (that identifies you) on various financial documents, and then signed them under penalty of perjury. It's damn odd that you'd want to declare yourself to be a taxpayer under penalty of perjury and then try to shift the burden of proof onto the government....."

The way I understand it, the bank account of a Sovereign is in the name of the STRAWMAN, and thus any taxes owed can be discharged. This could give breathing room, while the republic [where every person is a king] is taken back, and the government is brought back under Godly rule, peacefully, and without bloodshed.

The truth will make us free.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-21   14:55:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4) (Edited)

America Can Be Free - How It Works

"What if you could free yourself from the corrupt, out of control spending government, personal debt, the national debt, and the corrupt court system?

The key is to solve your "Commercial problems"

Last post, from another "How It Works" from discharge-debt.com . I don't know if this is exactly way Tim Turner does it, but here is the general principle behind the Redemption program :

"How It Works
In the Redemption program, you can discharge debts of many sorts and become the Sovereign you are meant to be, which is the ruler of your world rather than be the slave of another's world. I.E. The Government. A Sovereign is free to do as one pleases without causing harm to another living man or woman. The legal system has no more jurisdiction or control over you. To explain this better go HERE Also HERE and again HERE

The process is really quite simple
First, you have to fill out and file several documents such as a UCC1 and the attaching addendum with the secretary of state. Then fill out and file a security agreement between the living man or woman and the fictional character, then a POA Power Of Attorney needs to be filed with the county recorder along with a Copyright on the fictional name that sounds like your name but is spelled in all capitol letters like JOHN DOE. After these are done and you have your UCC1 back from the secretary of state, you need to open your contract trust with the United States Treasury, which requires your UCC1 filing number. Then you file the forms provided with the secretary of the United States treasury to complete the process of setting up your contract trust account.

At this point, you are done and can then discharge debts and judgments with your bonds that you can print on your computer at the cost of the paper and ink it takes to print them.

[ATKHWDI: Cool, just like the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bank!...Now I am beginning to understand why people who have done this are considered a "bank".]

This process is carefully checked by your personal coach whom you will email your filled out papers to before you mail them out to the appropriate offices as needed. This checking ensures that you get it right the first time and eliminates costly errors and time.

You may be asking how can I make a bond for so little money. The answer is that you are not really doing it that way, instead you are taking advantage of the fact that the INCORPORATED UNITED STATES is bankrupt and under the terms of that bankruptcy the UNITED STATES is required to pay all your debts because there really is no lawful money after 1933 when president Roosevelt took away the gold standard.

[ATKHWDI: the rule is, "he who has the gold, pays the bill."]

What you are doing with the bonding of debts process is sending an I.O.U. to the finance company or court etc.. This is a complex process in law but to this simply, this tells them that the UNITED STATES must by law of the bankruptcy pay your debts, *** when they redeem those bonds it reduces the national deficit by the amount of the bond. Paying a debt with debt instruments (I.E. Federal Reserve Notes) is like running a car on gas, which pollutes the air, but a bond is like running the same car on hydrogen, which actually cleans the dirty air it draws into the motor. You are killing two birds with one stone with a bond, first you are eliminating your debts and second you are reducing the national deficit....."

Disclaimer These programs work if followed to the letter, however more research is always being done to improve the effectives of a standing program. Your input and help in this area is what makes these programs evolve into a better form for those that will follow. discharge-debt.com/id122.htm

Isaiah 52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye were sold for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money. bible.cc/isaiah/52-3.htm [read the whole chapter]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-21 16:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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