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Title: The System (Also Known As Babylon)
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URL Source: http://freedomdomain.com/Main/system_babylon.html
Published: Mar 18, 2010
Author: freedomdomain.com
Post Date: 2010-03-18 16:55:21 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Views: 200
Comments: 5

The System (Also Known As Babylon)

Is the system oppressing you? Do you feel that the system is oppressive? Is the system "unfair"? Do you feel that the system need to be "overhauled" or "destroyed"? Is the system inherently "evil"?

These are valid questions that most people should be wondering about from time to time. I know I wondered for years, about how we could support a system that is so oppressive and evil. At least that is how I have felt in the past. And I have wondered to myself many times how is it that people completely support the system and keep supporting it, despite knowing how detrimental it is to their lives.

Every hippy, anarchist, and freethinker I have ever known has brought about the idea that money is inherently evil, that the system needs to be "abondoned" and we need to develop entirely new systems that allow us to be free. Most people I know that are well researched have put forth the proposition that the Federal Reserve is the source of and heart of the problem. Fractional reserve banking and it's resulting inflation and devaluation of the dollar, are the causes that most learned economists argue, are at the heart of the problem here in America. That may be true, and I used to believe that, but I'm not so sure I can agree completely any more.

New information that has been confirmed through sources in the area of Banking, and including, but not limited to sources within the US Treasury and IRS, gives us reason to believe that there may be nothing wrong at all with the system. That's right, that's what I said. There may be NOTHING wrong with the system at all. We may in fact, have the PERFECT SYSTEM in place already here in America, and perhaps globally as well. By now you must be wondering what on Earth i'm talking about and how could I possibly arrive at this conclusions, right? Well, I will answer that.

What if, instead of the system being screwed up, it was US instead who were screwed up? Like you and me and the rest of society, individually? What if we were so dumbed down that it was impossible to see how the system could possibly benefit us, because of our complete lack of understanding of how things within the system work.

What if we were only looking at each cog in the wheel individually, and saw this great machine in front of us, all built up, and being used to destroy lives of innocent people? Would that make the machine inherently evil? Or would it say something about the machine? Would it say it could ONLY be used for evil purposes? Well, it would look that way to anyone viewing it from a limited perspective. Correct? But that would not mean the machine could not be used for other purposes, correct? What if the machine were only understood by a few people who were in control of it and running it, and it was THEM who were evil, and not the machine? What if we were so stupid from our public educational process, that we only lacked the understanding of how to run the machine and use it for ourselves?

What if it were THAT simple? Would you learn how to use the machine? If you understood on a deeply spiritual, and psychic level, and saw the machine in all it's glory, for all it's uses and potential, and capabilities, and saw how it was being used to hurt innocent people? And what if you understood profoundly that it was very simple how it workeed, but people needed to be taught and ot be helped to understand it for what it can do for the benefit of the people?

Would you learn how to use it? Would you learn how to harness it's powers and uses for YOUR purposes? Would you be determined enough to learn how it works, so that you could wrestle the power away from the individuals using it for evil purposes and redirect it's uses for beneficial purposes? What if all you needed to do was learn how to play Monopoly again? But learn it backwards?

What I am suggesting here, is that we need to learn a lot about our history and money, and freedom, but in the end, we need to understand Redemption.

The system is nothing more than a tool, similar to a hammer. It can be used to build things or to smash people over the head. It's very simple, actually.

The system I am referring to here is a system that only a few people really understand, and it's mostly the Sovereigns that deserve the credit here. The Freemasonic System of Admiralty Law and International Commerce. That is precisely what I am referring to.

There is a system in place that has kept the rich, rich, and the poor, poor, but not because it's evil, only because there are very few people who truly understand how to use it.

People in the know, refer to them as the International Bankers. The Merchants of the Temple would be another name for them. The Knights Templars, the Temple Banks, and the whole conceot of banking in general came from the Templars. Why would you need a bank to protect your money, especially an international Temple Bank? Well, because if you don't let them control it, they will take it away from you anyways...what's why. They used to do that in the old days. Now they still do, they just call it something different. Pirate booty of the high seas is now called "Asset Seizure and Forfeiture" by the IRS. It is all done in Admiralty Proceedings. Just like on the High Seas.

How is it that an Agency of the Government we the People created, could take anyything away from us that they want to? Isn't that more akin to Communism? Well, the Illuminati, Jesuits, Freemasons, International Banksters, One World Mafia Criminal Extortion Gang of Dragon Families have decided that America would become the centralized nation for law merchant to rule THROUGH law statutes of dejure Government. (I believe I phrased that accurately)

So, what did they do?

In America, and now internationally, they have catipulted the economies of the world into a fictional atmospheric hot air bubble. We have the Common Law, and Constitutional Law. We have Roman Civil Law, and Merchant Law, in Admiralty Maritime. And we now have local and global corporations, and before we had multinational, and now we have transnational corporations. We have the United Nation, NAFTA, GATT, and Global Treaties with a host of countries that are party to one treaty, but not party to another, and one constitutional government, being influneced by international and foreign jurisdictions....how does it all come together one must ask?

All these systems everywhere, fictional corporations, assumptions of power left and right, presumptions of innocence , guilt, etc.....

It appears to be a spiders web that only the most intelligent spider could use to trap it's prey.......

That's what I thought, in the past...but now I live to see a brighter day.

The web of manipulation is becoming easier and easier to unravel each and every day. The lines of the Matrix are becoming more and more clear, and all of the illusion is about to be wiped away.

Who is alive? Who is real? Who is a living and breathing flesh and blood entity? Who has rights? Who has the right to contract? YOU DO (Blessed You in all your Glory, as a living breathing, flesh and blood human being, endowed with life by the creator, the almighty. (Thank you God/dess)

Who created the corporations, the dead, fictional, lifeless entities?

Living, breathing, flesh and blood people like you and me. That's who created them.

Do lifeless, fictional, dead, corpse entities have control over the flesh and blood real living people of the Earth? OF COURSE NOT !!!!!!!

But, if the real, living, flesh and blood, people are so dumbed down, and asleep on their rights, and completely fogetting they are alive, and have power, then yes, dead corporations can say and do anything they want to....why? Because they have your consent! That's why!

Where does money come from?
What IS money?
What is "Value"?
Is "Value" the same as "money"?
Where does "Value" come from?
Who has the right to give "Value"?
How does one go about giving "Value" to something?

Only the living, breathing, flesh and blood human being can give value to something, and value comes after "consideration" is given. Consideration requires thought faculties that corporations are not capable of giving, of themselves.

Fictional entities cannot entertain "thought" or consideration. Unless they are endowed with that ability, and corporations have the right to contract, just as living breathing, flesh and blood people do. But it takes a living, breathing, flesh and blood person, to SIGN for that corporation to come into existence. It required the thought and consideration of a real. live, flesh and blood human being, to breath life into the corporation.

So, in order for any corporation to exist, there had to be a living, breathing, flesh and blood person, who created it, by SIGNING something.

So, if a signature can create a corporation, what else can a signature do?

Can a signature Create money?
Can a signature Create debt?
Is "debt" ever considered "money"?
Are "debts" spendable?
Corporations "spend" debt all the time.
Are they not in essence creating "money"?

Who has the right to contract?
Who has the right to go into "debt"?

(if you need a little hint here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU DO !!!!!!!!!)

WHO has the right to use their signature to create "debt" / "wealth" ???

(Hint : Any living, breathing, flesh and blood human being on God/dess's Green Earth, that's WHO.) -- And yes, that's YOU!

Do you truly want to be free?
Do you want others to stop oppressing you?

Were the French revolutionaries, Jesuitical influences truly "Tyrants"? Or were they "tyrants who wanted to truly be free?" -- And if they were truly tyrants who truly wanted to be free, then how could it come to be that they would become the oppressors themselves throughout history? Ponder these questions for a moment. Please.

Freedom goes so far, as long as it does not oppress others. When freedom goes further, and it becomes the freedom to oppress others, then it is either done by consent or by direct force. And it changes from freedom to tyranny again. Back into it's own vicious cycle. The cycle of Freedom and Tyranny. This is what mankind is at constant dilemma to harness and understand and manipulate. It is also the heart within our hearts. The beating that we all feel.

We all want to be free, but some people have a completely different idea of what freedom really is.

When freedom goes so far that it resrtricts another's freedom by force, then that freedom needs to be kept in check.

So, in our system we have the system of what we call "checks" and "balances". For every "check" there must be a "balance". The "balance is actually where we want to be. That is where freedom lies. Within "Balance".

Our economy is naturally based on a system that goes way back before the founding of the country. The laws of merchants and high seas were around long before the establishing of any settlements on American soil. And our economy is an extension of the direct inter-relations of countries in trans-atlantic and -pacific agreements. Everything that makes up the fabric of our society has at it's roots, commerce and "expansion" of the colonies in the Americas. The great "expansion" of civilization is made possible by agreements and contracts that do not necessarily include money as a medium of exchange, or at least what we percieve and view commonly, to be money. The "expansion" of civilization has been made possible by the "extension of credit" internationally.

Who has been extending that credit? Well, that is important, is it not? That means we owe to them a great deal, do we not? Whoever, constructed the roadway we call and live by, the economic highway, would be a group of masterful geniuses by and large, would they not be? Well, we as humanity have been going down along this road we call the economic highway, "commerce" for short, and it's ruled by a set of laws called the Law Merchant. The laws of commerce passed down for centuries, basically, the blueprint of babylon, if you will......

Well, there have always been outlaws, right? There have always been those who did not want to play by the rules, so an entirely NEW set of rules needed to come into existance, because those are the only rules the outlaws go by, in order to show a common respect for each other, so they don't kill each other, as individual Sovereignties out there on the frontier. That is the law of Pirates or the Law of the High Seas. Take what you want, and fuckem if they don't like it. Well, if they really, REALLY don't like it, they'll kill you for screwing them, right? But not if if was done with your consent, over time, and engrained on your children down through generations and generations. Then it would not matter the level of censent, because there would be consent through , passive aquiescence. This is the way it has been done to us by the outlaw pirates, folks...wake up folks, wake up, right now, we have been tricked by a small group of criminal pirate worldwide gangster dragon families. We live under the law of Pirates now here in the United States, it's called the Law Admiralty/ Maritime Jurisdiction. And it's ruled by a set of laws. The law of the Pirates. Admiraly / Maritime International Law of Freemasonry. And it all boils down to simple contracts, folks.

What governs the law of Contracts?
Uniform Commercial Code governs the law of contracts. The UCC is statutized in each state. Each state formally recognizes and adopts UCC standards.

If I was a Pirate and I want to steal your ship and all it's cargo and contents, etc., then in the old days, I would just come along and take it. But with Pirate formalities and such, as they are now a days, the UCC maintains that I must inform you of this siezure in advance, at least, in case you have any objection, or want to settle the claim somehow.

Basically, if I wanted to make a siezure of your vessel, I would be making a claim of some kind, in fact. I would at least "claim" to own your vessel from this point on, right? So, its a form of a "claim".

Well, if I am making a "claim" now there are courts for these matters, to hear them. So, I would bring my (or rather, your previous) vessel to court, in paper, at least, by Title, and show how I aquired my right, and if so, by what right did I aquire it, and was it done properly according to Pirate conduct. (Admiralty and Merchant).

So, here we are in court, making claims, now, about who owns what, and for how long, and who it belonged to before that, and how did they aquire it, and was it done properly, and lawfully, and so on.

This is where we find ourselves today, here in America, picking up the pieces and trying to figure out what we own, and who owns what, and who owes who, how much and for how long, and so on.......

But, in the process of it all, we forgot who owns ourselves. We own ourselves. I own myself, and to no-one do I owe anything to. I owe nobody anything in this world. I owe it to myself to do the best I can. But I owe no-one any debt coming into this world. We are all born Free. Or at least we should be born Free, and have the right to be, and I realize that not all in this world are so fortunate. But nonetheless we owe nothing to anyone but ourselves, and nobody else own us, as individuals. People are Free in nature, and natural theory.

So lets stop and ask ourselves something here. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that "if I was not aware of the process of the Uniform Commercial Code and if I was not even aware of it's existance until now", and taking into consideration how much influence it has on our lives, if you could say to yourself, "what if this has been controlling me all along, and my lack of understanding of how it all works", and if you could realize that all it takes is a determination to understand a new set of rules, a fairly simple set of rules, actually, that "wow I could actually be free in this world", wouldn;t you want to learn it as fast as you could, like the new game of monopoly?

These are the rules of the new game.
Simple : HJR-192 - June 5, 1933 - One Simple Rule to Remember. All liabilities have been removed from the individual, and shifted to the corporate body politic. Social Security is YOUR Limited Liability Insurance Policy indemifying YOU personally from injuries due to the removal of money of "substance", i.e., gold, silver, from circulation. Your are personally EXEMPT from all liabilities incurred by virtue of your status of citizenship and birthright.

NO CONTRACTS CAN COME FORTH THAT CALL FOR PAYMENT IN SUBSTANCE.............PERIOD -

ALL DEBTS MUST BE DISCHARGED -- (That means NOTHING is ever "PAID in FULL")

LIKE FOR LIKE

DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR

SIGNATURE FOR SIGNATURE

Now what do you want to do about it all?

May I suggest to "take charge"?

What does that mean?
Many things, of course.

Take charge could be to become the leader, and take the lead.
Take charge could be to Accept the Charge, and add it to your own portfolio.
Or take charge could be a way to assert control over your affairs, and your life, and take care of what you need to know for your own good. Like Learning the UCC and how "money" works.

A conveneint way to "Take Charge" is to take control over the vessel, that belongs to YOU, the flesh and blood, living, breathing human being. This vessel has your name on it......in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS., called your "Dummy / Strawman" Corporation created for you, by your Birth Certificate, (Certifying a Value) which entered you into "commerce" when they Registered your Certificate with the "Department of Commerce", but it's floating around on the high seas (of commerce) without a navigator or a Captain at the helm. You may want to take control of that entity, because if you aren't controlling it, then someone else may be, and probably is. A UCC-1 and a Bond with Your Strawman, is one way to take control of the vessel.

As a matter of fact, we have found evidence that our Birth Certificates and Social Security Numbers are being used by international traders on the marketplaces, and the TITLES to our "Vessels" (Our Bodies) are being traded back and forth by rogue slave traders, mostly rogue agents of the BEIC, I would imagine, since the BEIC became Washington DC, and anyone using the Titles without our express consent, would be a rogue agent.

The next step to Freedom for any individual would be to set up their Account properly, as to give authorization for the use of the Account (Exemption), to the Treasury, who created it. If you are the Person who created a debt, you are also the person, who must give authorization in order to use your Account to Discharge the Obligation. So, one way to do this would be to Deposit a Certified Copy of Your Birth Certificate with the Treasury Department, as a Deposit and Chargeback.

Until this is done, it is likely that someone has been using the Title to your Vessel to accrue all kinds of international debts, and likely you are being held accountable for these debts without even knowing it.

(Take Charge, Then Chargeback) -

And now that you have taken control of your Vessel, and you know nobody else is going to be using it, because YOU are now using it for your benefit, you can sail on your vessel in luxury, knowing you own it now, and you have the Priority Claim. You are now Primary Lienholder on your Vessel, and that says a lot. Your filing in the UCC is your evidence of your position in line, and first in line, is the first position. Your position is now on Record.

Who can now make a claim?
If anyone does, are they going to be in first position?
Will they have to get behind you, in order to get their claim satisfied?

Well, what if someone comes in with a claim against your Vessel, (Strawman), and get's all hot and ancy with you?
What can you do?

How about settling the claim by Accepting it For Value, giving "Value" to it with your signature, and directing the chargeback through the Treasury? Wouldn't the Treasury then liquidate the claim, using your Exemption for "Set-Off"? Isn't that the purpose of the Limited Liablity Insurance Policy Called Social Security Insurance, created right after the Bankruptcy of 1933?

Now before you go out doing anything which may harm the "public", you may want to post a "bond" of some sort, like an Indemnity Bond on your Exemption, to indemnify, against all possible damages your ship may cause at Seas (US Commerce) to other vessels also at Sea. Thereby creating an insurance pool for those at risk.

Now you can sail on merrily, Free as the wind and where it will take you on the sea. Hopefully Forever Free.

and in the meantime...the international bankster masons will wonder amongst themselves, what are we going to do if Josh keeps emitting letters of credit from his website,

he is surely a credit to society....

whatever will we do to try to discredit him?

he is teaching all about credits and debits...oh my!....what will the Queen say?

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he is teaching all about credits and debits...oh my!....what will the Queen say?

Excerpt from 'Scarlet & the Beast volume II: The War between English & French Freemasonry'

by John Daniel, JKI Publishing, Tyler Texas 1994, pages 25-6.

“In January 1983 the Queen (Elizabeth II) and her consort toured the United States. There seemed to be no apparent reason for her visit other than the honor bestowed on her by the Bohemian Club of California during the last evening of her stay. It was quite an extravaganza.

The Bohemian Club is the West Coast center for the inner elite of Templar Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the United States. Some of its members are Senator Alan Cranston, FBI Director William Webster and former secretaries of state George Schultz and Henry Kissinger.

On February 3, 1983, a five-minute segment of the Bohemian Club’s extravaganza in honor of Queen Elizabeth was aired on all three television networks. The event began with a view of the Queen sitting slightly high in the middle of the auditorium, as if on top of a pyramid. Two dancers entered the stage wearing huge hats hanging from cables. The cone of the first hat was representative of a walled city with a pyramid or ziggurat towering in the middle. Obviously, it portrayed ancient Babylon. At the base of the pyramid two doors continuously flapped open and shut displaying inside a large picture of Prince Charles, successor to the British throne, and his wife, Princess Diana. As the dancer in the hat moved stage right, the second dancer entered from stage left. The cone on the second hat portrayed the city of London, with Big Ben towering in the center. When both dancers centered themselves, with the brims of the huge hats reaching from one end of the stage to the other, a voice bellowed, “Oh Queen, you have traversed the ages from Babylon to London!” Ever so slightly and without a smile, Queen Elizabeth nodded as if in agreement to the statement.

That night the Bohemian Club, an arm of Templar Scottish Rite Freemasonry, acknowledged London as the seat of Mystery Babylon. Queen Elizabeth accepted that acknowledgment. If London is the city that the Apostle John saw in his vision, Queen Elizabeth’s life and nation will be short-lived if Jesus Christ does not tarry --- for who knows better the headquarters of its rival than the ruthless French Knights Templar Scottish Rite of Freemasonry….”

http://www.henrymakow.com/bohemian_grove_illuminati_meet.html

THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY EXTORTING TAXES FOR THE CROWN! ... www.apfn.org/apfn/bcolony.htm

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REDEMPTION ["Paper terrorism" according to the AntiChrist Anti-Defamation League (B'nai B'rith)]

www.truthsetsusfree.com / americacanbefree.com/

Micah 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

bible.cc/micah/4-10.htm

11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.

12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.

13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their [ILL-GOTTEN] gain unto the LORD, and their substance [See Gen. 15:13-14/Gal. 3:16,17...29/US IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY EXTORTING TAXES FOR THE CROWN] unto the Lord of the whole earth.

kingjbible.com/micah/4.htm / bible.cc/micah/4-13.htm

Isaiah 48:20 Go ye forth of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob.

bible.cc/isaiah/48-20.htm [All of Isaiah 48 and Isaiah 49 are interesting to me today, because I hesitated to post this, and something about those two chapters told me, "do it".]

Zechariah 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon.

bible.cc/zechariah/2-7.htm

Isaiah 14:2 .....and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

bible.cc/isaiah/14-2.htm

Isaiah 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: 25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders. 26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations. 27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back? http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/14.htm

12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.

13 For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:

14 And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.

15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.

16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of hosts, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.....

20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.

22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land.

24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. 26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt. 27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.

bible.cc/isaiah/10-14.htm / http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/10.htm

Isaiah 18:5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.

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24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion [AMERICA!] be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. 26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt. 27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.

bible.cc/isaiah/10-14.htm / http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/10.htm

Isaiah 18:5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.

bible.cc/isaiah/18-5.htm / http://kingjbible.com/isaiah/18.htm

[I wrote this yesterday, and have been sitting on it. Even Glenn Beck was on the tube last night warning the people are talking violence and we'll end up with a Revolution on the order of the French one. Maybe that's what they want....problem, reaction...]

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Perusing the headlines here the last couple of days, one might come to the conclusion the time is at hand....like when the Israelites had the Egyptian army at their back, and the Red Sea in front of them. Well, Christians are the second Israel, and America is her promised land [as I have said repeatedly. To make a long story short, see "The Enduring Legacy of the First Landing" at www.wnd.com (at Cape Henry, with a cross and a charter to spread the gospel/Micah 4:1-2/Psalm 2:6)]:

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Exodus 14 - The Crossing of the Red Sea

A. The pursuit of Pharaoh's armies.

1. (1-4) God draws Pharaoh to come out against Israel.

Now the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: "Speak to the children of Israel, that they turn and camp before Pi Hahiroth, between Migdol and the sea, opposite Baal Zephon; you shall camp before it by the sea. For Pharaoh will say of the children of Israel, 'They are bewildered by the land; the wilderness has closed them in.' Then I will harden Pharaoh's heart, so that he will pursue them; and I will gain honor over Pharaoh and over all his army, that the Egyptians may know that I am the Lord." And they did so.

a. You shall camp before it by the sea: We could say that God set an ambush for Pharaoh. Even after the horror of the death of the firstborn, the change in Pharaoh's heart was only temporary. He was quick to strike at Israel when he had the chance.

b. They are bewildered by the land: This was exactly what God wanted Pharaoh to believe. God told Moses to lead Israel in a way that looked confused. God told Moses and Israel to do something crazy because God knew how He could be glorified through it.

2. (5-9) Pharaoh decides to bring the children of Israel back.

Now it was told the king of Egypt that the people had fled, and the heart of Pharaoh and his servants was turned against the people; and they said, "Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us?" So he made ready his chariot and took his people with him. Also, he took six hundred choice chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt with captains over every one of them. And the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued the children of Israel; and the children of Israel went out with boldness. So the Egyptians pursued them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, his horsemen and his army, and overtook them camping by the sea beside Pi Hahiroth, before Baal Zephon.

a. Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us? This was a strange question for Pharaoh to ask. It isn't hard to think of at least ten good reasons - namely, ten powerful plagues - why Pharaoh let Israel go.

i. This demonstrates how we are often quick to forget what God has done and what He has shown us. It is easy to quickly move from walking in the spirit to walking in the flesh.

ii. Perhaps Pharaoh thought that the Lord had shot all His arrows and had no more "ammunition" against Egypt. After all, no more died after the plague of the firstborn; but God isn't short on resources. He had plenty of ammunition left.

b. Six hundred choice chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt: Pharaoh was well equipped with the best military resources. Chariots were the most sophisticated military technology available at that time. Israel had nothing except the children of Israel went out with boldness.

i. The idea behind the Hebrew words with boldness (ruwn yad) include the idea of rebellion against authority (1 Kings 11:26-27). The rebellious nature of Israel was good when it was against Pharaoh and all it stood for; it was bad when it was against the Lord, Moses, and all they stood for. The trouble with rebels is they rebel against the wrong things!

ii. Psalm 106:7-12 describes this rebelliousness on the part of Israel at the Red Sea, also mentioned in Exodus 14:10-12: Our fathers in Egypt did not understand Your wonders; they did not remember the multitude of Your mercies, but rebelled by the sea; the Red Sea. Nevertheless He saved them for His name's sake, that He might make His mighty power known. He rebuked the Red Sea also, and it dried up; so He led them through the depths, as through the wilderness. He saved them from the hand of him who hated them, and redeemed them from the hand of the enemy. The waters covered their enemies; there was not one of them left. Then they believed His words; they sang His praise.

3. (10-12) The response of the children of Israel.

And when Pharaoh drew near, the children of Israel lifted their eyes, and behold, the Egyptians marched after them. So they were very afraid, and the children of Israel cried out to the Lord. Then they said to Moses, "Because there were no graves in Egypt, have you taken us away to die in the wilderness? Why have you so dealt with us, to bring us up out of Egypt? Is this not the word that we told you in Egypt, saying, 'Let us alone that we may serve the Egyptians?' For it would have been better for us to serve the Egyptians than that we should die in the wilderness."

a. They were very afraid: It made sense for Israel to be afraid. According to all outward observation, Israel was in serious trouble with Pharaoh's armies on one side and the Red Sea on the other. They seemed to have no chance for escape.

i. God led Israel right into a cul-de-sac. There was no was of escape except the way they had come in, and the Egyptian army had that path covered.

ii. We sometimes think that Satan will let us go easily, or we think that that once we leave his kingdom he forgets about us. Yet just like Pharaoh after Israel, Satan pursues us, attempting to keep us at least on the fringes of his domain and hoping to destroy us if he can.

b. The children of Israel cried out to the Lord: This was a good thing to do. When we find ourselves in dangerous places with no easy escape, we must cry out to God, because God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble (Psalm 46:1).

c. Then they said to Moses: Their fear could be understood and their cry to the Lord made sense. Yet their words to Moses show a great lack of faith and loss of confidence in God. No reasonable mind could really think that Moses planned all this to lead the people of Israel to their death in the wilderness.

i. They thought they could read the mind and heart of Moses. We are often wrong and always on dangerous ground when we claim we can read the intentions of other's hearts. Moses said nothing or did nothing that would support such a conspiracy theory, but the children of Israel still thought this way.

d. Let us alone that we may serve the Egyptians: The children of Israel were not yet a week out of Egypt and they were already distorting the past, thinking that it was better for them in Egypt than it really was.

4. (13-14) Moses responds with great courage.

And Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. Stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which He will accomplish for you today. For the Egyptians whom you see today, you shall see again no more forever. The Lord will fight for you, and you shall hold your peace."

a. Do not be afraid: At this point, Moses could have no idea how God would come through in the situation. All he knew was God certainly would come through. In a sense, Moses knew he was in such a bad situation that God had to come through.

i. When we see that our only help is God, we are more likely to trust Him. Sometimes it is the little things - the things we think we can do in our own strength - that get us down, not the big things that we know only God can do.

b. Stand still: Moses told the people of Israel to stop. This is often the Lord's direction to the believer in a time of crisis. Despair will cast you down, keeping you from standing. Fear will tell you to retreat. Impatience will tell you to do something now. Presumption will tell you to jump into the Red Sea before it is parted. But as God told Israel He often tells us to simply stand still as He reveals His plan.

c. See the salvation of the Lord: Moses didn't know what God would do. Yet he knew what the result would be. He knew that God would save His people and that the enemies of the Lord would be destroyed. He could say to Israel, "the Lord will fight for you."

d. You shall see them no more forever: The idea behind this implies much more than at first look. Moses perhaps spoke in terms of eternity as well as their present time.

B. God leads Israel across the Red Sea.

1. (15-18) God's instructions to Moses: stop praying and start doing.

And the Lord said to Moses, "Why do you cry to Me? Tell the children of Israel to go forward. But lift up your rod, and stretch out your hand over the sea and divide it. And the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea. And I indeed will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they shall follow them. So I will gain honor over Pharaoh and over all his army, his chariots, and his horsemen. Then the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord, when I have gained honor for Myself over Pharaoh, his chariots, and his horsemen."

a. Why do you cry to Me? Before the people, Moses was full of faith. But before God he cried out in desperate prayer. This was good because Moses had to show confidence before the nation to encourage their faith.

b. Why do you cry to Me? There is a time to pray, and a time to act. It can actually be against God's will to stop doing and to only pray in a particular situation.

i. This is especially true when our prayer is not made unto God alone. Sometimes we pray out of the wrong motives and sometimes we pray to inform others who listen. We can use a call to prayer to actually control a situation or we can pray to avoid action or buy time.

c. Lift up your rod, and stretch out your hand: These were simple instructions that resulted in a mighty miracle. In the same manner, the greatest miracle of salvation happens with simple actions on our part.

d. Then the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord: God was not finished answering Pharaoh's question from Exodus 5:2, when Pharaoh asked "Who is the Lord, that I should obey His voice to let Israel go?" God used the miracle of the parting of the Red Sea to speak to Egypt as much as He used it to speak to Israel.

i. This is an aspect of the spiritual life rarely reflected upon. When God delivers us from a temptation or crisis, it is as much a testimony to our invisible adversaries as it is to us. God uses each victory in our life to tell our unseen enemies of His power and ability to work in and through frail humanity.

2. (19-20) God neutralizes the Egyptian army with the fire.

And the Angel of God, who went before the camp of Israel, moved and went behind them; and the pillar of cloud went from before them and stood behind them. So it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel. Thus it was a cloud and darkness to the one, and it gave light by night to the other, so that the one did not come near the other all that night.

a. The pillar of cloud went from before them and stood behind them: The pillar previously mentioned in Exodus 13:21-22 was now positioned as a barrier between the attacking Egyptians and the children of Israel. God protected Israel from the Egyptian attack until a way was made through the Red Sea.

i. We often have little idea how much God does to protect us from the attacks of our unseen enemies. We sometimes feel that we are overwhelmed in a present spiritual struggle, but we may not know what it would be like if the Lord pulled back His protection.

b. It came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel: The Egyptians didn't know it, but the same pillar that prevented their pursuit of Israel also protected their lives. If they had submitted to the Lord who blocked their way with His presence, they would have been spared.

c. Thus it was a cloud and darkness to the one, and it gave light by night to the other: The pillar was a source of darkness to the Egyptians but a source of light to Israel. This is a vivid picture of how the glory of God can be light to one person yet seem dark to another.

3. (21-22) The waters of the Red Sea are parted, and the children of Israel cross over safely on dry ground.

Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind [*** ATKHWDI Note: See Ezekiel 17:10! The first eagle (Ezekiel 17:1-6) is God (see John 15:1-2)...the second eagle was planted by Rothschild on the US Great Seal, and the Admiralty Law flag with gold fringe belonging to the current CEO of CorpUSA, President Obama. The TRUE vine in Ezekiel 17:1-6, is Jesus Christ. Ezekiel 17 is a RIDDLE for the house of Israel....which is the church....in the "wilderness" Ezekiel 20:33-38...AMERICA! Connect the dots!] all that night, and made the sea into dry land, and the waters were divided. So the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea on the dry ground, and the waters were a wall to them on their right hand and on their left.

a. Moses stretched out his hand over the sea: Other passages (such as Exodus 13:18 and 15:14 identify this body of water as the Red Sea. The Hebrew phrase for Red Sea is yam suph, which clearly means "Reed Sea." Scholars and archeologists have attempted for years to positively identify this body of water.

i. "The term aptly describes the lake region north of the Gulf of Suez comprising the Bitter Lakes and Lake Timsah. It is possible that the Israelites went along the narrow neck of land on which Baal-zephon stood and that the Biblical Sea of Reeds was modern Lake Sirbonis. We are certain that the crossing was in this area because the Israelites found themselves in the Wilderness of Shur after crossing the sea (Exod. 15:22)." (Pfeiffer)

ii. We don't know exactly where the place was, and what the exact geography was. This is especially true because an area like this will change geography every flood or drought season. We do know there was enough water there to trap the Israelites and to later drown the Egyptians. We can surmise that this was perhaps 10 feet of water or so. We also can surmise that there was enough width in the crossing for the large group of Israelites to cross over in one night - perhaps a mile wide stretch.

b. The Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea into dry land, and the waters were divided: Some believe this is simply an ancient legend and did not actually happen. However, modern research has demonstrated that it was completely plausible, according to a Los Angeles Times article by Thomas H. Maugh titled "Research Supports Bible's Account of Red Sea Parting" (3/14/92):

i. "Sophisticated computer calculations indicate that the biblical parting of the Red Sea, said to have allowed Moses and the Israelites to escape from bondage in Egypt, could have occurred precisely as the Bible describes it.

Because of the peculiar geography of the northern end of the Red Sea, researchers report Sunday in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, a moderate wind blowing constantly for about 10 hours could have caused the sea to recede about a mile and the water level to drop 10 feet, leaving dry land in the area where many biblical scholars believe the crossing occurred."

c. The waters were a wall to them on their right hand and on their left: Psalm 77:16-20 gives more detail in the description of the course of events during the Red Sea crossing: The waters saw You, O God; the waters saw You, they were afraid; the depths also trembled. The clouds poured out water; the skies sent out a sound; Your arrows also flashed about. The voice of Your thunder was in the whirlwind; The lightnings lit up the world; the earth trembled and shook. Your way was in the sea, Your path in the great waters, and Your footsteps were not known. You led Your people like a flock by the hand of Moses and Aaron.

4. (23-28) God troubles the Egyptian army, and they are drowned.

And the Egyptians pursued and went after them into the midst of the sea, all Pharaoh's horses, his chariots, and his horsemen. Now it came to pass, in the morning watch, that the Lord looked down upon the army of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and cloud, and He troubled the army of the Egyptians. And He took off their chariot wheels, so that they drove them with difficulty; and the Egyptians said, "Let us flee from the face of Israel, for the Lord fights for them against the Egyptians." Then the Lord said to Moses, "Stretch out your hand over the sea, that the waters may come back upon the Egyptians, on their chariots, and on their horsemen." And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and when the morning appeared, the sea returned to its full depth, while the Egyptians were fleeing into it. So the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea. Then the waters returned and covered the chariots, the horsemen, and all the army of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them. Not so much as one of them remained.

[ATKHWDI Note: The British Monarchy CLAIMS to be of the tribe of Judah AND THE TRIBE OF EPHRAIM: Zechariah 9:10 I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim. Do a search on Ephraim in the Concordance. Ephraim was the name of one of Joseph's sons. It was Jeroboam, of Ephraim, along with the tribe of Dan, and a Levite, who led Israel into idolatry. Ephraim was born to Joseph in EGYPT. Ephraim was also another name for the whole house of Israel, the Northern 10 tribes. It was also one of the names of Christ. The whole house of Ephraim was cut off from Israel for idolatry. Their only hope is in Christ.]

a. He took off their chariot wheels: God miraculously worked on the side of Israel against the Egyptians. He troubled the army of the Egyptians until Israel had crossed over the Red Sea. Only then did He allow the Egyptian army to continue their pursuit through the parted waters.

b. So the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea: Though some also regard this as simply an ancient legend, modern research again shows it is completely possible. Thomas H. Maugh continued in his Los Angeles Times article:

i. "An abrupt change in the wind would have allowed the waters to come crashing back into the area in a few moments, a phenomenon that the Bible says inundated the Israelites' pursuers."

c. Stretch out your hand over the sea, that the waters may come back upon the Egyptians: God told Moses to do something with his hand connected with the motion of the sea. We know that it was not really the power of Moses' hand that held back the sea or allowed it to come crashing back upon the Egyptian army. It was the power of God at work.

i. God could have performed this miracle just as easily without Moses' cooperation. Yet, God delights in using human agents to take part in His miraculous works. We can say that many miraculous works of God are yet to be done because no human agent has stepped forth to be the one who will "stretch out their hand."

ii. In addition, this was God's vindication of Moses. Israel previously accused him of the lowest of motivations, and the most evil state of heart (Exodus 14:10-12). Through this work through Moses God showed the whole nation that Moses was their chosen leader.

d. Not so much as one of them remained: The deliverance at the Red Sea became a turning point in Israel's history. In this era of Israel's history they had many troubles ahead but Pharaoh and the Egyptians never troubled them again.

5. (29-31) Summary: another act of redemption on Israel's behalf.

But the children of Israel had walked on dry land in the midst of the sea, and the waters were a wall to them on their right hand and on their left. So the Lord saved Israel that day out of the hand of the Egyptians, and Israel saw the Egyptians dead on the seashore. Thus Israel saw the great work which the Lord had done in Egypt; so the people feared the Lord, and believed the Lord and His servant Moses.

a. Israel saw the Egyptians dead on the seashore: This was confirmation to Israel that their deliverance from Egypt was real and complete. An oppressed people are slow to believe they are free while their tyrant still lives. God wanted Israel to know that their oppressors were dead.

[ATKHWDI NOTE: Jesus: You shall know the truth and the truth will make you free..If the Son has made you free, you will be free indeed....Galatians 4:21-31 We are not the children of the bondwoman but of the free...Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with a yoke of bondage.]

i. "Somehow the sight of those dead bodies was the concrete sign that salvation and a new life for Israel were now assured." (Cole).

b. So the Lord saved Israel that day out of the hand of the Egyptians: God delivered Israel in seemingly impossible circumstances. He demonstrated His faithfulness to Israel and to all His people.

i. Spurgeon told the story of an old saint who lay on her deathbed and declared that Jesus would never forsake her, because He had promised so. Someone asked her, "But suppose that He did not keep His promise, and you were to be lost?" She answered, "Then He would be the greater loser than I. It is true I would lose my soul, but God would lose all His honor and glory if He were not true." God's motive for delivering us is not only His love for us, but also a desire to guard His own glory and honor.

ii. "Brethren, if we have trusted in God, and have come out of the Egypt of the world through his grace, and have left all its sins behind us, if we were left to die in the wilderness, the Lord Jesus Christ would lose his glory as a Saviour, the divine Father would lose his name for immutable faithfulness, and the Holy Ghost would lose his honour for perseverance in completing every work which he undertakes." (Spurgeon).

c. The people feared the Lord, and believed the Lord and His servant Moses: This was just the result God intended. Sadly for Israel they did not stay in this place of respect and faith toward the Lord. This was probably more a circumstance of feelings than it was of true faith, because they left this place of respect for the Lord and Moses quickly.

i. We can say that the deliverance of Passover and the miracle of the Red Sea go together. If not for the victory won at the Red Sea, the redemption at Passover would have meant nothing. But they would have never made it to the Red Sea without the miracle of God's redemption at Passover. In the same way, the redemption of the cross would mean nothing without the miracle of the resurrection. The two works of deliverance must go hand in hand.

© 2004 David Guzik - No distribution beyond personal use without permission

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Geneva Study Bible

The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall {h} hold your peace.

[ATKHWDI Note: see also 2 Chronicles 20:11-29!! ...See how they reward us to come to cast us out of the land you have given us for an inheritance (See the Enduring Legacy of the First Landing at http://wnd.com )....God said: The battle is not yours, but mine...Stand still and see the salvation of the Lord...]

(h) Only put your trust in God without grudging or doubting.

[ATKHWDI Note: see Psalm 2:12....blessed are they who trust in Him.]

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

14:10-14 There was no way open to Israel but upward, and thence their deliverance came. We may be in the way of duty, following God, and hastening toward heaven, yet may be troubled on every side. Some cried out unto the Lord; their fear led them to pray, and that was well. God brings us into straits, that he may bring us to our knees. Others cried out against Moses; fear set them murmuring as if God were not still able to work miracles. They quarrel with Moses for bringing them out of Egypt; and so were angry with God for the greatest kindness ever done them; thus gross are the absurdities of unbelief. Moses says, Fear ye not. It is always our duty and interest, when we cannot get out of troubles, yet to get above our fears; let them quicken our prayers and endeavours, but not silence our faith and hope. Stand still, think not to save yourselves either by fighting or flying; wait God's orders, and observe them. Compose yourselves, by confidence in God, into peaceful thoughts of the great salvation God is about to work for you. If God brings his people into straits, he will find a way to bring them out.

[ATKHWDI Note: See 1 Samuel 8. The people rejected God from ruling over them, and asked for a king....you see the end result! God WILL rule over us, though. See Ezekiel 20:33-38.]

The Song of Moses bible.cc/exodus/15-2.htm ...Read the commentaries, then click on the passage [I prefer the KJV] for the entire chapter. Christians are the New Israel [see Galatians 3:16,17...29], the New "Church in the Wilderness" [see Ezekiel 20:33-38!!!] built on the Old Testament Church. [I'm getting chills...please read Isaiah 51 and 52....oh my gosh...52:11....Come out of "Babylon"...Come out and be separate and I will be a Father to you (I looked up the Greek for the word "separate" in my Concordance, and it says "to set off by boundary, i.e., FIGURATIVELY....see 2 Corinthians 6:14-18!)...We are in the Passover season...could it possibly be NOW???...Isaiah 52:12...you shall not go out with haste, NOR GO BY FLIGHT, for the Lord will go before you, and the God of Israel will be your rear guard....Micah 4:13....I will make your horn iron and your feet brass....and you will take their ill-gotten gain and consecrate it to the Lord of the whole earth....Habbukuk 2!!! and 3! Rothschild's Eagle on the US Great Seal (Ezekiel 17:7-10/John 15:1-2) about to be broken off? See americancanbefree in the article above and learn the power of negative averments.....the government can be made to be our servant, not the other way around....public servants are given a chance to rectify their "mistakes", and if not, they are left only with the clothes on their back, and you "TAKE THEIR STUFF", you may even end up owning their courts and prison systems (where you could replace THEIR people with OUR people: Isaiah 1:26 )...I have heard it is happening as I speak in 8 states....did your media tell you about it?...Isaiah 14:12...How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer.......17 Who made the world as a wilderness, And destroyed its cities, Who did not open the house of the prisoners?....]

Revelation 15:2 And I saw somethinglike a sea of glass mingled with fire, and those have the victory ofver the beast, over his image and over his mark and over the number of his name [social security number? the number 666 on the Rothschild-US Great Seal? (see Satan On Our Dollar at http://jesus-is-savior.com ], standing on the sea of glass, having harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

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(7) That song of triumph, which is Ex 15:2.

(a) So is Moses called for honour's sake, as it is set forth in De 34:10.

(8) This song has two parts: one a confession, both particular, in this verse, and general, in the beginning of the next verse Re 15:4, another, a narration of causes belonging to the confession, of which one kind is eternal in itself, and most present to the godly, in that God is both holy and alone God: another kind is future and to come, in that the elect taken out of the Gentiles (that is, out of the wicked ones and unbelieving: as in Re 11:2 were to be brought to the same state of happiness, by the magnificence of the judgment of God, in Re 15:4.

(b) Thy doings.

People's New Testament

15:3 They sing the song of Moses... and the song of the Lamb. When Israel was delivered from Egypt they sang the song Moses as they had done on the shores of the Red Sea. Here, the spiritual Israel, redeemed, standing on the crystal sea, sings a song of deliverance, but it is the old song to a new strain; the song of the Lamb now; of the Redeemer........

Wesley's Notes

15:3 And they sing the song of Moses - So called, partly from its near agreement ,with the words of that song which he sung after passing the Red Sea, Exod 15:11, and of that which he taught the children of Israel a little before his death, Deut 32:3,4. But chiefly because Moses was the minister and representative of the Jewish church, as Christ is of the church universal. Therefore it is also termed the sons of the Lamb. It consists of six parts, which answer each other: Great and wonderful are thy works, Lord God Almighty. For thou only art gracious. Just and true are thy ways, O King of the nations. For all the nations shall come and worship before thee. Who would not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? For thy judgments are made manifest. We know and acknowledge that all thy works in and toward all the creatures are great and wonderful; that thy ways with all the children of men, good and evil, are just and true. For thou only art gracious - And this grace is the spring of all those wonderful works, even of his destroying the enemies of his people. Accordingly in Psalm 136:1 - 26., that clause, For his mercy endureth for ever, is subjoined to the thanksgiving for his works of vengeance as well as for his delivering the righteous. For all the nations shall come and worship before thee - They shall serve thee as their king with joyful reverence. This is a glorious testimony of *** the future conversion of all the heathens. The Christians are now a little flock: they who do not worship God, an immense multitude. But all the nations shall come, from all parts of the earth, to worship him and glorify his name. For thy judgments are made manifest - And then the inhabitants of the earth will at length learn to fear him........

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

....Great and marvellous are thy works, &c.-part of Moses' last song (De 32:3, 4). The vindication of the justice of God that so He may be glorified is the grand end of God's dealings. Hence His servants again and again dwell upon this in their praises (Re 16:7; 19:2; Pr 16:4; Jer 10:10; Da 4:37). Especially at the judgment (Ps 50:1-6; 145:17).

[ATKHWDI Note: see also "heathen" in Ezekiel 38:16, Ezekiel 39:7,21,23,28]

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

15:1-4 Seven angels appeared in heaven; prepared to finish the destruction of antichrist. As the measure of Babylon's sins was filled up, it finds the full measure of Divine wrath. While believers stand in this world, in times of trouble, as upon a sea of glass mingled with fire, they may look forward to their final deliverance, while new mercies call forth new hymns of praise. The more we know of God's wonderful works, the more we shall praise his greatness as the Lord God Almighty, the Creator and Ruler of all worlds; but his title of Emmanuel, the King of saints, will make him dear to us. Who that considers the power of God's wrath, the value of his favour, or the glory of his holiness, would refuse to fear and honour him alone? His praise is above heaven and earth.

bible.cc/revelation/15-3.htm

Read to the end of the book....history may be about to repeat itself.

For those sitting on the fence:

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

Mark 12:30 AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.'

bible.cc/deuteronomy/6-4.htm

JESUS CHRIST IS ISRAEL (Index)

http://www.preteristarchive.com/...chive/j/jesus-is-israel... [not the full URL]

Jesus Christ is God of the Old Testament Isaiah 9:6-7

"Jesus is King of Israel, and Christians are the Israelitic Race." See "Justin Martyr's Dialogue with Trypho, a Jew."

See Ezekiel 20:33-38. Will you "enter into" the New Israel, America [or rather, "Beulah", see Isaiah 62:4], or be purged? Don't do it for the money. Anyone not wearing the "wedding garment washed in the blood of the Lamb," may get tossed out. There could be wailing and gnashing of teeth. One must come into the bond of the NEW Covenant. Please think about it.

Psalm 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and ye perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they who put their trust in HIM.

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New Info.

Exodus 15 - The Song of Moses ... 2004 David Guzik - ... www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0215.htm :

"....c. Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve wells of water and seventy palm trees: After the time of testing God had a time of refreshing for the people of Israel. He knew exactly what they needed, and He knew when to test them and when to rest them."

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Is this another example of what is going on now?

I suspect the twelve wells of water is a reference to the twelve tribes, and the seventy palm trees to the seventy elders of the house of Israel (Ezekiel 8:11). [Is this were the Seventy Elders of the House of Sion originated??]

Compare with the New Jerusalem dressed as a bride for her Husband [Jesus Christ] in Revelation 21 [see also "your land will be married" at Isaiah 62:4], and the Kingdom of Heaven/Kingdom of God in Revelation 22:

Rev. 22:1 And he shoed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, prodeeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

...read the rest of the chapter.

Here the Living Water proceeds from Jesus Christ/God, and the tree of life also represents Christ, and I believe the fruit is reference to the church, built on Christ and the 12 apostles (John 15:15-16) and the prophets (Ephesians 2:20/entire chapter).

Does anyone remember the sword-shaped Comet Lulin, as it came out of nowhere, travelling backward through the 12 signs of the Zodiac, dumping water in the amount of an Olympic-sized swimming pool every 15 seconds? If Comet Lulin wasn't a "great sign in Heaven" of the next coming of Christ, at least equal to the comet in the shape of a sword that stood over the Old Jerusalem for a year before the city was destroyed, I don't know what was.

"As for me and my house" we already follow the Lord, and some of us at least [the ones with our heads out of the sand] are in the process of separating ourselves from Babylon, preparing to "cross the Red Sea," and enter the promised land [Beulah], where "the children of Wickedness" will not afflict us anymore [2 Samuel 7:10].

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-21   10:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

in simple terms

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what Moses saw when he came down with the 'tablets' - a young one

There's a MONSTER on the loose

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-03-21   11:00:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itistoolate (#2)

what Moses saw when he came down with the 'tablets' - a young one

There's a MONSTER on the loose

Yes....thanks for the link...that's a great thread!

Remember God told Moses to stand back, because He was going to kill them all. Only Moses' intercession saved them. And as you point out, the rulers of that religion are still worshipping the golden calf today. The God that took Israel out of their affliction in Egypt, is, IMHO, getting ready to do the same for the second Israel, the church:

Jeremiah 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

bible.cc/jeremiah/23-7.htm

8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.

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Ezekiel 36:22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. 23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. .....

bible.cc/ezekiel/36-22.htm

What land did He give to our [Galatians 3:29] fathers?

Everywhere their feet did tread! [Deuteronomy 11:24....And the only one to tread on water was Jesus....so hear ye that, ye Merchants. Romans 4:13.]

Whereas the first Israel took the gold [substance] they took from the Egyptians to build the golden calf to worship, we are to take their ill-gotten gain and consecrate their substance to the Lord [i.e., for the healing of the nations]....Genesis 15:13-14/Micah 4:13/Rev. 22:2.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-21   12:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

JMP: Tim Turner 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE4E769838

December 09, 2009
John McGowan Presents Tim Turner and the American Sovereignty Movement. For more information please go to http://www.americacanbefree.com [not the website at the link in the video]

The video starts getting good at around 7.50.

Jim Turner is a Christian and believes America is a Christian nation...I don't know about the woman in the video.

I liked this comment on the video:

"...if he [referring to the naysayer on the comment page] is working for the govt, then I have a message for him to pass on to his superiors regarding all this:

PARTY'S OVER."

Here's another one I found last night : America Can Be Free - How It Works

"What if you could free yourself from the corrupt, out of control spending government, personal debt, the national debt, and the corrupt court system?

The key is to solve your "Commercial problems"

...Thanks to the generous teaching of Freedom Master, Tim Turner, we provide: Immediate organized access to questions and answers regarding the world of commerce, freedom, and learn the power of becoming a "Secured Party Creditor."

No longer will you need to wade through many hours of conference calls and random materials out there, to find the information you need now. With this system you can go directly to the discussions you need and listen to the topics you want to hear. Tim answers your common questions in this pre recorded call format. All arranged by subject and date. Access it 24/7 on your schedule.

Plus the site content is constantly updated every week with new information from the latest Tim Turner private coaching calls.

* Gain personal and financial freedom.
* Effectively deal with the national debt, personal debt, and taxes.
* Achieve financial independence faster.
* Protect your assets and build wealth.
* Learn how to deal with corrupt courts and politicians more effectively.

And more..."

http://youhavetheright.com/#how_it_works

You can find the audios online free, but I am not sure they are catalogued like this, although I could be wrong. I have listened to some of the tapes, and they are very informative.

See also Tim Turner America Can Be Free Recorded TalkShoe.com Conference Calls at turnercalls.youhavetheright.com . I heard on a recorded Conference Call from last year [August?] that H&R Block are now filing 1099-OID's for their clients, if I am not mistaken, but don't quote me...I do know they were filing SOMETHING Turner discovered to deal with all this.

For those who don't want anything to do with Obamacare, if you are a Sovereign [or "paper terrorist" as the ADL calls it], you won't have to. If you want to READ more about being sovereign, another good site for information as to what it is and how it works, is www.discharge-debt.com .

Since the IRS will be commandeering bank accounts, you might want to learn how they trap us into making ourselves liable for taxes and control by VOLUNTEERING that we are "taxpayers" in any number of ways. Here's one:

"....I have been in the Tax Honesty Movement for about a decade. In that time I've never heard of the government bringing a civil or criminal action against a person who never (emphasis on "never") used a SSN/EIN/ITIN for his private financial affairs or for government benefits. [Every time I say this publicly, a few people come out of the woodwork to claim that the government does do this, but to this day no one has been able to provide me with any evidence of such claims.]

People must learn that a criminal trial under any provision of Title 26 is only addressing the punishment for a regulatory offense. Phrased another way, the heart of the matter is under "administrative law", but a court has been brought into the picture because the "administrative agency" wants to level a penal-type punishment for the alleged regulatory offense.

Most people believe that tax trials operate under the same rules and conditions as if you were accused of a "mala en se" crime, such as theft or murder. Their belief is incorrect. In a court that is hearing a mala en se matter, every necessary element of the crime must be proven in the courtroom. However, in a "mala prohibita" [regulatory] case some elements of the "offense" are determined by the court based on the administrative record. One element that the court determines from the administrative record is jurisdiction. In other words, whether you are a "taxpayer" need not be determined by evidence before the court (in administrative law), but rather by evidence upon the agency's official record.

Let me give you an example. For years I've heard that "banking" is a sure way to get nailed as being liable for income tax. The people who espouse this view, do so based on the fact that in many tax trials, part of the case file [part of the agency's "official record"] put together by the CID investigators is your bank signature card. Somehow this has been construed as the document that really nails your coffin closed. These folks are a little off base.

Most Americans do not know that a section of the bank's signature card is a "substitute W-9". Ironically, the words, "substitute W-9", actually appear on the signature card! No one seems to notice. A W-9 is a federal tax form. It is to be used only by taxpayers. Nontaxpayers shouldn't sign federal tax forms - at least if they want to remain nontaxpayers. When a person places his "tax number" (whether SSN, EIN, or ITIN) in that space, and then signs the signature card (above which appears the perjury clause), he is declaring, under penalty of perjury, that he is a taxpayer and that the account he is opening is related to his taxpayer activities. The government is going to take you at your word. In fact, given the opportunity, they're going to ram those words down your throat!

We can now see that the bank's signature is not the problem, per se. It is the account holder affixing his government provided taxpayer number to the account and signing it under penalty of perjury. Now do you understand why the bank's signature card often appears in the IRS' official record? In this way the agency is quietly informing the judge that YOU SAID that you're a taxpayer - and you said it under penalty of perjury. This is the same reasons that they will often request a copy of your W-4 from your employer, or ask a lender for a copy of the W-9 you signed when applying for a mortgage. These documents are used to show that you slit your own throat - voluntarily (or so the argument goes).

Now comes the poor defendant (aka: government victim). The defendant demands that the prosecutor produce the law that makes him liable. The deep dark secret that no one tells the poor defendant is that government's perspective is that since you already swore under penalty of perjury that you're a taxpayer, there is no longer any requirement to "prove" that you're a taxpayer by producing a statute. After all, you must know better than the prosecutor and the court what tax you're liable for because you provided the government's tax number (that identifies you) on various financial documents, and then signed them under penalty of perjury. It's damn odd that you'd want to declare yourself to be a taxpayer under penalty of perjury and then try to shift the burden of proof onto the government....."

The way I understand it, the bank account of a Sovereign is in the name of the STRAWMAN, and thus any taxes owed can be discharged. This could give breathing room, while the republic [where every person is a king] is taken back, and the government is brought back under Godly rule, peacefully, and without bloodshed.

The truth will make us free.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-21   14:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4) (Edited)

America Can Be Free - How It Works

"What if you could free yourself from the corrupt, out of control spending government, personal debt, the national debt, and the corrupt court system?

The key is to solve your "Commercial problems"

Last post, from another "How It Works" from discharge-debt.com . I don't know if this is exactly way Tim Turner does it, but here is the general principle behind the Redemption program :

"How It Works
In the Redemption program, you can discharge debts of many sorts and become the Sovereign you are meant to be, which is the ruler of your world rather than be the slave of another's world. I.E. The Government. A Sovereign is free to do as one pleases without causing harm to another living man or woman. The legal system has no more jurisdiction or control over you. To explain this better go HERE Also HERE and again HERE

The process is really quite simple
First, you have to fill out and file several documents such as a UCC1 and the attaching addendum with the secretary of state. Then fill out and file a security agreement between the living man or woman and the fictional character, then a POA Power Of Attorney needs to be filed with the county recorder along with a Copyright on the fictional name that sounds like your name but is spelled in all capitol letters like JOHN DOE. After these are done and you have your UCC1 back from the secretary of state, you need to open your contract trust with the United States Treasury, which requires your UCC1 filing number. Then you file the forms provided with the secretary of the United States treasury to complete the process of setting up your contract trust account.

At this point, you are done and can then discharge debts and judgments with your bonds that you can print on your computer at the cost of the paper and ink it takes to print them.

[ATKHWDI: Cool, just like the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bank!...Now I am beginning to understand why people who have done this are considered a "bank".]

This process is carefully checked by your personal coach whom you will email your filled out papers to before you mail them out to the appropriate offices as needed. This checking ensures that you get it right the first time and eliminates costly errors and time.

You may be asking how can I make a bond for so little money. The answer is that you are not really doing it that way, instead you are taking advantage of the fact that the INCORPORATED UNITED STATES is bankrupt and under the terms of that bankruptcy the UNITED STATES is required to pay all your debts because there really is no lawful money after 1933 when president Roosevelt took away the gold standard.

[ATKHWDI: the rule is, "he who has the gold, pays the bill."]

What you are doing with the bonding of debts process is sending an I.O.U. to the finance company or court etc.. This is a complex process in law but to this simply, this tells them that the UNITED STATES must by law of the bankruptcy pay your debts, *** when they redeem those bonds it reduces the national deficit by the amount of the bond. Paying a debt with debt instruments (I.E. Federal Reserve Notes) is like running a car on gas, which pollutes the air, but a bond is like running the same car on hydrogen, which actually cleans the dirty air it draws into the motor. You are killing two birds with one stone with a bond, first you are eliminating your debts and second you are reducing the national deficit....."

Disclaimer These programs work if followed to the letter, however more research is always being done to improve the effectives of a standing program. Your input and help in this area is what makes these programs evolve into a better form for those that will follow. discharge-debt.com/id122.htm

Isaiah 52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye were sold for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money. bible.cc/isaiah/52-3.htm [read the whole chapter]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-21   16:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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