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Title: crop circles 2009
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWMBh3WleE&feature=related
Published: Mar 21, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-03-21 01:44:47 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 3137
Comments: 105


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April 2010 is right around the corner. Crop circles are notorious about this month and through the harvest season around the world.

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#5. To: buckeroo (#0)

Whatever they mean, and however they were made, it was not by a bunch of morons in the middle of the night. imo

Lod  posted on  2010-03-21   15:08:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#5)

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-21   16:03:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo, 4 (#7)

Mind-numbingly beautiful.

The symmetry is just unbelievable.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-21   16:21:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#8)

The symmetry is just unbelievable

Makes me pine for the ol' Spirograph. : )

I tried to find one for me and my kiddies, but they don't make them anymore. You have to purchase one off of E-Bay and hope all the parts are in the box. Of course, they want "antique" pricing.

abraxas  posted on  2010-03-21   19:36:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: abraxas, buckeroo, 4 (#15)

I do not believe that these creations are man-made.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-21   21:59:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod, abraxas, buckeroo (#18)

I do not believe that these creations are man-made.

I do.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-03-21   22:01:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: farmfriend, Lod (#19)

Aren't those crop circles from last year AWESOME! They get better every year. I am hoping that 2010 reveals some new artwork to inspire us. Over time, they have become increasingly complex.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-22   14:42:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo, farmfriend, 4 (#21)

Well, planting season will soon enough come to the northern hemisphere, and I'm looking forward to seeing what this year's offerings/signals/messages will look like.

They still look other-worldly to my simple mind.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-22   15:09:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#23)

Well, planting season will soon enough come to the northern hemisphere, and I'm looking forward to seeing what this year's offerings/signals/messages will look like.

Well said. I am not convinced that all of them are college pranksters of local pub drunks or landlords attempting to make a few bucks. As yourself, those designs are exquisite and truly capture your imagination about significance.

Still, the original pranksters in the UK caused my doubt and give the increasing technical detail, I think it is possible to perform this stuff (given a team of friends) to make MORE of it.

If there truly were some form of message ( from anyone), why don't the crop circles become simpler with time?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-22   16:06:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#26)

i'd be more inclined to accept the possibility of divine or alien intervention if one of these things would appear in a field without tractor tracks in it, with features that werent connected to each other by at least a narrow path, or features that werent within jumping distance of another feature.

we need one perfect design in a dense field of vegetation (dense enough to reveal footprints) without tractor tracks, consisting of multiple features isolated from each other by more than polevaulting distance.

might be an interesting project for a billionaire who owns a helicopter.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-22   16:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: groundresonance (#27)

I might add one teenie tiny, tid bit: I haven't seen a popularly photographed crop circle that was poorly constructed anywhere. It isn't like a pile of pranksters never make mistakes, year after year. And this stuff has been on-going for years around the world.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-22   16:30:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#28) (Edited)

who's gonna waste film and publicity on a slipshod crop circle?

anyhow, let's start thinking of tools...

how bout, for more-or-less instant circles... (that would be the smaller circles) a piece of steel tubing, with a hole drilled in it so you can slip it over a piece rebar you've driven into the ground to serve as a pivot.

you could even make the steel tubing telescopic, so you could do different sizes of circles with one tool.

just rotate the tubing once on the rebar, and you've got your perfect circle.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-22   16:41:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: groundresonance, Lod, farmfriend (#29)

who's gonna waste film and publicity on a slipshod crop circle?

Crop Circles: The Art of the Hoax
They may not be evidence of UFOs, ancient spirits or secret weapons, but there is something magical in their allure

* By Rob Irving and Peter Brookesmith
* Smithsonian.com, December 15, 2009

When Doug Bower and his co-conspirator Dave Chorley first created a representation of a “flying saucer nest” in a wheat field in Wiltshire, England, in 1976, they could not have foreseen that their work would become a cultural phenomenon.

Almost as soon as crop circles became public knowledge, they attracted a gaggle of self-appointed experts. An efflorescence of mystical and magical thinking, scientific and pseudo-scientific research, conspiracy theories and general pandemonium broke out. The patterns stamped in fields were treated as a lens through which the initiated could witness the activity of earth energies and ancient spirits, the anguish of Mother Earth in the face of impending ecological doom, and evidence of secret weapons testing and, of course, aliens. Today, one of the more vigorously promoted ideas is that they are messages, buried in complex numerological codes, concerning a Great Change connected to the pre-Columbian Mayan calendar and due to occur in 2012.

To appreciate how these exotic responses arose, we need to delve a little into history. Before today’s circle-makers entered the picture, there had been scattered reports of odd patterns appearing in crops, ranging from 17th century pamphlets to an 1880 account in Nature to a letter from astronomer Patrick Moore printed in 1963 in New Scientist. In Australia, the mid- to late-1960s saw occasional reports of circles in crops, and they were often ascribed to UFO landings. At around the same time in England, the Wiltshire town of Warminster became a center of UFO-seeking “sky watches” and gave birth to its own rumors of crop circles, or “saucer nests.” None of these, unfortunately, was photographed.

It was such legends that Bower had in mind when, over a drink one evening in 1976, he suggested to his pal Chorley: “Let’s go over there and make it look like a flying saucer has landed.” It was time, thought Doug, to see a saucer nest for himself.

Since then, crop circles have been reported worldwide in a multitude of crops. In southern England, which sees most activity, circle-makers tend to concentrate on canola, barley and wheat. These grow and are harvested in an overlapping progression: canola from April through May, barley throughout May and June, and wheat from June until early September. In recent years the occasional rudimentary pattern has been found in corn, extending the crop circle season as late as October. Since Bower and Chorley’s circles appeared, the geometric designs have escalated in scale and complexity, as each year teams of anonymous circle-makers lay honey traps for New Age tourists.

A crucial clue to the circles’ allure lies in their geographical context. Wiltshire is the home of Stonehenge and an even more extensive stone circle in the village of Avebury. The rolling downs are dotted with burial mounds and solitary standing stones, which many believe to be connected by an extensive network of “leys,” or paths of energy linking these enchanted sites with others around the country. It is said that this vast network is overlaid in the form of “sacred geometries.” The region has also given rise to a rich folklore of spectral black dogs, headless coachmen and haunted houses.

Crop circles are a lens through which we can explore the nature and appeal of hoaxes. Fakes, counterfeits and forgeries are all around us in the everyday world—from dud $50 bills to spurious Picassos. People’s motives for taking the unreal as real are easily discerned: we trust our currency, and many people would like to own a Picasso. The nebulous world of the anomalous and the paranormal is even richer soil for hoaxers. A large proportion of the population believes in ghosts, angels, UFOs and ET visitations, fairies, psychokinesis and other strange phenomena. These beliefs elude scientific examination and proof. And it’s just such proof that the hoaxer brings to the table for those hungry for evidence that their beliefs are not deluded.

False evidence intended to corroborate an existing legend is known to folklorists as “ostension.” This process also inevitably extends the legend. For, even if the evidence is eventually exposed as false, it will have affected people’s perceptions of the phenomenon it was intended to represent. Faked photographs of UFOs, Loch Ness monsters and ghosts generally fall under the heading of ostension. Another example is the series of photographs of fairies taken by Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths at Cottingley, Yorkshire, between 1917 and 1920. These show that the motive for producing such evidence may come from belief, rather than from any wish to mislead or play pranks. One of the girls insisted till her dying day that she really had seen fairies—the manufactured pictures were a memento of her real experience. And the photos were taken as genuine by such luminaries as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle—the great exponent, in his Sherlock Holmes stories, of logic.

The desire to promote evidence of anomalous and paranormal events as genuine springs from deep human longings. One is a gesture toward rationalism—the notion that nothing is quite real unless it’s endorsed by reasoned argument, and underwritten by more or less scientific proofs. But the human soul longs for enchantment. Those who don’t find their instinctive sense of the numinous satisfied by art, literature or music—let alone the discoveries of science itself—may well turn to the paranormal to gratify an intuition that mystery dwells at the heart of existence. Such people are perfectly placed to accept hoaxed evidence of unexplained powers and entities as real.

And so, the annual appearance of ever more complex patterns in the wheat fields of southern England is taken by “croppies”—the devotees who look beyond any prosaic solution for deeper explanations—as signs and wonders and prophecies. The croppies do, however, accept that some people, some of the time, are making some of the formations. They regard these human circle-makers as a nuisance, contaminators of the “evidence,” and denounce them as “hoaxers.” The term is well chosen, for it implies social deviance. And therein lies the twist in the story.

In croppy culture, common parlance is turned on its head. The word “genuine” usually implies that something has a single, identifiable origin, of established provenance. To the croppy it means the opposite: a “genuine” circle is of unknown provenance, or not man-made—a mystery, in other words. It follows that the man-made circle is a “hoax.”

Those circle-makers who are prepared to comment on this semantic reversal do so with some amusement. As far as they’re concerned, they are creating art in the fields. In keeping with New Age thought, it is by dissociating with scientific tradition that the circle-makers return art to a more unified function, where images and objects are imbued with special powers.

This art is intended to be a provocative, collective and ritual enterprise. And as such, it is often inherently ambiguous and open to interpretation. To the circle-maker, the greater the range of interpretations inspired in the audience the better. Both makers and interpreters have an interest in the circles being perceived as magical, and this entails their tacit agreement to avoid questions of authorship. This is essentially why croppies regard “man-made” circles as a distraction, a “contamination.”

Paradoxically, and unlike almost all other modern forms of art, a crop circle’s potential to enchant is animated and energized by the anonymity of its author(s). Doug Bower now tells friends that he wishes he had kept quiet and continued his nocturnal jaunts in secret. Both circle-makers and croppies are really engaged in a kind of game, whose whole purpose is to keep the game going, to prolong the mystery. After all, who would travel thousands of miles and trek through a muddy field to see flattened wheat if it were not imbued with otherworldly mystique?

As things stand, the relationship between the circle-makers and those who interpret their work has become a curious symbiosis of art and artifice, deception and belief. All of which raises the question: Who’s hoaxing whom?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-22   18:30:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo, farmfriend, 4 (#32)

After centuries of circles, and especially today with all our cameras and recorders, would not someone have infiltrated the hoaxers, and exposed them?

Lod  posted on  2010-03-22   18:42:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod (#35)

From time to time, they are. Groundresonance brought up a group of college students at Oregon State. It's back up the thread a bit.

And the article you are responding to is cause celebrie with Doug Bower and his co-conspirator Dave Chorley. BTW, Chorley just murdered himself over this stuff. And the only reason Bower was found out was because of his suspicious wife, thinking he was having an affair at late night hours.

Bower's last crop circle was in 2004.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-22   18:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#37) (Edited)

just murdered himself

according to this article from manchester.com, chorley died in a hospital of cancer in 1997.

i guess the article could be a hoax.

EDIT: whoops... make that 1996.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-22   19:22:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: groundresonance, Lod, farmfriend (#39) (Edited)

My error. It wasn't Chorley ... it was Paul Obee, see below:

Fewer crop circles after guru's suicide

By Anil Dawar
Published: 12:01AM BST 05 Aug 2006

The death of one of the leading lights of England's crop-circle world has led to a fall in agricultural artwork, it emerged yesterday.

Friends of Paul Obee admitted they had been devastated by his suicide this year and no longer had the will go out and create the circles.

Fellow "croppie" Andrew Byrne, 41, said: "There was a slump in crop circle-making after Paul's death. The community of circle-makers was whacked by his death because we're all quite close. People just didn't want to go out and make them."

The huge intricate patterns that adorn fields are believed by some to be the work of a paranormal force.

In reality the geometric designs are created at night by "landscape artists" who are considered vandals by many. The designs attract tourists from around the world.

Wiltshire, where Mr Obee lived, has seen a slump in the activity of the crop-circle makers in what is traditionally their peak season.

The professional driver from Horton, near Devizes, was found dead in his Volkswagon Polo by a walker on a remote country track in May. The engine was running with a pipe feeding exhaust fumes into the car, which contained two suicide notes. He had also sent his partner, Debbie Keogh, a hand-written journal in the post entitled These Are My Last Words, in which he told her: "I want to go off and see what's on the other side."

Signs have appeared that the county's croppie fraternity, which is based at the Barge Inn in Honeystreet, near Pewsey, have come out of mourning and will continue to work. In recent weeks, a crop-circle jester has appeared in a field at Eastfield, near Alton Priors, a nod to Mr Obee's nickname - "The Fool".

Yesterday Nigel Brookes, assistant deputy coroner for Wiltshire, recorded a verdict of suicide on Mr Obee's death.

Groundresonance, thanks for forcing the correction. You are a human dyna-mo digging for truth just like the rest of us!

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-23   10:59:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, 4 (#41)

Groundresonance, thanks for forcing the correction. You are a human dyna-mo digging for truth just like the rest of us!

Amen.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-23   11:16:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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