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Title: Europe's largest windfarm shut down after 14-tonne turbine blade snaps
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... -shut-turbine-blade-snaps.html
Published: Mar 23, 2010
Author: By Daily Mail Reporter
Post Date: 2010-03-23 22:28:31 by DeaconBenjamin
Keywords: None
Views: 404
Comments: 17

Europe's largest windfarm was shut down after a blade snapped off one of the huge turbines, operators said today.

All 140 turbines at the Whitelee windfarm on Eaglesham Moor near Glasgow are being inspected by engineers following Friday's incident.

ScottishPower Renewables said mechanical failure or a lightning strike could be to blame for the breakage, which it described as 'highly unusual'.

The 150ft, 14-tonne, fibreglass blade broke off in the early hours in windy conditions and landed at the base of its tower.

Operators at the site's 24-hour control room were alerted to the damage by the turbine's automatic system and immediately closed it down.

Sixty-five turbines have begun operating again following an inspection led by turbine manufacturers Siemens.

The examination is expected to be completed by the end of the week.

ScottishPower Renewables managing director Keith Anderson said: 'This type of incident is exceptionally rare and highly unusual.

'However, the safety of our people and the public is our first priority.

'While the investigation into the cause of the incident is ongoing, our engineers continue to conduct an internal and external examination of all turbine blades at the wind farm.'

The Whitelee windfarm, located around 20 minutes from Glasgow city centre, was officially switched on by Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond in May last year.

Its turbines can generate 322MW of electricity, enough to power 180,000 homes.

Two planned extensions will take the number of turbines to 215 by 2012.

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#1. To: DeaconBenjamin (#0)

"The 150ft, 14-tonne, fibreglass blade broke off in the early hours in windy conditions and landed at the base of its tower."

Could one of those blades really weigh 28,000 pounds?

Big Meanie  posted on  2010-03-24   3:26:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Big Meanie (#1)

You never felt how heavy fiber glass is Meanie? Surely a heavy mover like you has bench pressed a Corvette or two in his life.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-03-24   3:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret (#2)

I once owned a '58 Corvette and I had a job building surfboards for 7 years. No, I don't think that blade weighs 28,000 lbs.

What's a "heavy mover"?

Big Meanie  posted on  2010-03-24   3:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Big Meanie (#3)

Just a joke, Meanie. I am poking good natured fun at the absolute starkness of your fear of a Latino/a planet. I don't always agree with you, but I respect the honest conviction of your opinions.

You don't try to wag he dog as some in here do, so I always listen to what you say and think about it - as in food for thought.

Hey, as far as the mega wind blade goes, I can't argue with tht kind of experiance with fiber glass. I believe you, that blade can't be that heavy.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-03-24   3:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Big Meanie (#3)

Offshore wind farm construction - more pictures

they shoulda put more people in the pictures so we'd have a better idea of the scale.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-24   3:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret (#4)

more from Composites Technology April 2004

Carbon/glass hybrids used in composite wind turbine rotor blade design

While an optimized glass-only design was sufficient for its 54P, LM is turning to carbon fiber in the highly loaded areas of its 61.5m/200 ft blade.

The 54P weighs 13,500 kg/29,700 lb. Using the 54P as a baseline, the "cubic rule of thumb" predicts a weight of 19,950 kg/43,890 lb for the longer blade.

But the new 61.5P is expected to weigh in at about 18,000 kg/39,600 lb. Four prototype 61.5P blades, which use an epoxy matrix, were fabricated in the first quarter of 2004; one will undergo static testing while the other three will be installed by July on a prototype turbine.

the euros are leaving america behind on wind technology, because we can steal oil from iraq and iran at gunpoint, and dont have to screw around with this sissy windpower crap.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-24   4:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: groundresonance (#6)

I do know that the winds in th Columbia River gorge are consistent and astounding. I would have to agree with you we just don't do enough development in this department to please me. And we have many places this sort of power production could be profitable if it were done right.

Wind is a much better choice than coal or oil.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-03-24   4:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret (#7)

Wind is a much better choice than coal or oil.

When it blows.

WIND ENERGY THE CASE OF DENMARK

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-03-24   8:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: DeaconBenjamin (#8) (Edited)

heaven forbid anyone comes around to admitting there's a need for alternative energy ...my goodness! ...that would imply that we're gonna be faced with oil shortages...

the Institute for Energy Research, which put out that report on denmark and wind, is financed by the oil and coal companies... including, until recently, the AEI/PNAC'S allies at exxon... and their solution to energy shortages has nothing at all to do with windmills, and has everything to do with grabbing oil at gunpoint and protecting israel.

if there was a looming energy shortage, and someone started connecting the dots between PNAC's need for a "new pearl harbor", impending energy shortages, and 9/11... well, that wouldnt be so pretty good.

so, what that report boils down to is: another attempt to deny that neocons had motives to stage 9/11 (their "new pearl harbor") in order to kickstart their oil acquisition project... (we're supposed to overlook the fact that, if PNAC said they needed "a new pearl harbor", then they must have had a motive to make their "new pearl harbor" happen)

...because, if you can deny you had a motive to commit the crime, you wont be on the suspect list.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-24   9:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: groundresonance (#9)

So, they have their facts wrong? There are not problems with generation being greatest when demand is least, and generation least consistent when demand is greatest?

Do you know where I can find an answer to this report, or data showing that its underlying premises are false?

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-03-24   18:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: DeaconBenjamin (#10) (Edited)

Results 1 - 10 of about 191,000 for "Institute for Energy Research" denmark wind

i know, i know...

we're supposed to deny global warming, peak oil, and the fact that the exxon/AEI/PNAC lashup wanted a new pearl harbor.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-24   19:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: DeaconBenjamin (#10)

Results 1 - 10 of about 24,700 for "Institute for Energy Research" exxon

Results 1 - 10 of about 601,000 for exxon AEI

Results 1 - 10 of about 103,000 for AEI PNAC

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,440,000 for PNAC "new pearl harbor"

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-24   19:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: groundresonance (#11)

OK, I'm actually looking at an answer here from the American Wind Energy Association. The Truth about Wind Power in Denmark. I can't tell from your response if you look at arguments, or simply rely on ad hominem attacks.

AWEA's first argument is, that if Denmark exports wind-generated electricity to other European nations, then an equivalent amount of electricity imported from European nations should be deemed as wind-generated. This argument strikes me as lame.

AWEA's second argument is that wind-generated electricity in the US will be consumed in the US, unlike Denmark. This argument does not speak to the issue of the reliability of wind-generated electricity when needed. If you need to keep fossil-fuel or nuclear plants constantly operating to fill in the gaps of electrical generation when the wind stops, you will have invested large amounts of money for very limited useful return.

As for the arguments that wind electricity does so reduce carbon emissions, that portions of the US have more consistent wind than the seas off Denmark, and that Denmark had high electricity costs before wind generation, these fail to speak to the practicability of wind power as a source of electricity in the US.

Truth be told, I would prefer that wind power work. I would be delighted to see Boone Pickens power Dallas-Fort Worth with his windmills. Indeed, my wife and I still talk about someday purchasing a farm windmill for our property. But I really don't want to see hundreds of billions of tax dollars spent on white elephants -- there are too many of that herd already.

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-03-24   20:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: DeaconBenjamin (#13) (Edited)

I can't tell from your response if you look at arguments, or simply rely on ad hominem attacks.

my main argument is that you apparently prefer to believe the same people who lied us into iraq, and most likely staged 9/11.

if that's "ad hominem", so be it.

meanwhile, the whole thing has become as politicized and corrupt as the global warming/peak oil arguments...

it's practically impossible to figure out what the truth is, and if you were honest, you'd admit that the same people who've propagandized the arguments about wind have propagandized the arguments about global warming, peak oil, the need to attack iraq, and now, the need to attack iran.

the tactics used by these people are well-documented, starting back in the tobacco wars, when some of these same outfits, some of the same people, were hired by big tobacco to sow confusion about the harmful effects of smoking.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-24   20:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: groundresonance (#14)

my main argument is that you apparently prefer to believe the same people who lied us into iraq, and most likely staged 9/11.

Coal miners?

it's practically impossible to figure out what the truth is

Why is it impossible to determine whether wind power is a real solution, or a mean of lining the pockets of certain politically connected?

the same people who've propagandized the arguments about wind have propagandized the arguments about global warming, peak oil, the need to attack iraq, and now, the need to attack iran.

You don't believe that there are self-serving corporate interests on both sides of the wind power, global warming, or peak oil issues?

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-03-24   21:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15) (Edited)

the Institute for Energy Research, the heritage foundation, the AEI, PNAC, lee raymond, richard perle, bill kristol, and exxon are "coal miners", huh?

there is no real solution... that's the problem... wind will never be able to replace oil, natural gas and coal for electricity, transportation, and as the raw material for plastics, drugs, etc.

i dont know why, when faced with the certainty that "business as usual" is doomed, you are so surprised when people try to prolong "business as usual" for as long as possible in an attempt to prolong their opportunities to loot a dying system... not to mention the necessity of saving israel's bacon before their israeli american proxy armies run out of gas.

so, there are crooks promoting "business as usual" ---and those crooks will badmouth wind, even though wind is a lame substitute for fossil fuels.

and there are crooks who will promote wind power, because the massive amounts of investment needed will provide opportunities to loot.

meanwhile, there are honest people who see wind as a partial replacement for fossil fuels ---wind could provide electricity for hospitals, schools, farm machinery, essential industries--- as the world adjusts to living on declining supplies of oil.

you seem to have cast your lot with the people who want to prolong business as usual so they can prolong their opportunities to loot... people who also have no qualms about killing hundreds of thousands of people ---including 3000 americans on 9/11--- in attempts to prolong business as usual by grabbing oil at gunpoint while protecting israel as it completes its ethnic cleansing of the high ground in the west bank.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-25   3:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15) (Edited)

and once you factor in your neocon buddies' ambitions of "benevolent global hegemony", plus the inevitability of peak oil, and peak oil's function as motive to stage 9/11... once you factor in all that, it's easy to understand why peak oil must be denied.

even symptoms of peak oil, like wind farms, must be denied, because peak oil was the most pressing motive that caused the neocons to stage 9/11.

there's a faction that believes it must grab control of the remaining oil by force of arms in time to make the world safe for ashkenazi supremacism... and they must accomplish their "benevolent global hegemony" or "tikkun olam" or whatever you want to call it, before the tool they're using, the US military and the economy that supports that military, runs out of gas.

so, to provide a pretext for the oil grab operation, they had to stage that false flag on 9/11, the most pressing reason being: peak oil.

which is why peak oil and symptoms of peak oil, like wind farms, must be badmouthed.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-25   3:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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