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Title: The McCain-Lieberman Police State Act
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Published: Mar 26, 2010
Author: Stephen Lendman
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The McCain-Lieberman Police State Act - by Stephen Lendman

If enacted, it will advance what this writer addressed in a December 2007 article titled, "Police State America - A Look Back and Ahead," covering numerous Bush administration laws, Executive Orders (EOs), National and Homeland Security Presidential Directives, edicts, and various illegal acts targeting designated domestic and foreign adversaries, dissent, civil liberties, human rights, and other democratic freedoms.

Straightaway post-9/11, George Bush signed a secret finding empowering the CIA to "Capture, Kill or Interrogate Al-Qaeda Leaders." He also authorized establishing a covert global gulag to detain and interrogate them without guidelines on proper treatment.

Other presidential directives ordered abductions, torture and indefinite detentions. In November 2001, Military Order Number 1 empowered the Executive to capture, kidnap or otherwise arrest non-citizens (and later citizens) anywhere in the world for any reason and hold them indefinitely without charge, evidence, due process or judicial fairness protections of law.

The 2006 Military Commissions Act authorized torture and sweeping unconstitutional powers to detain, interrogate and prosecute alleged suspects and collaborators (including US citizens), hold them (without evidence) indefinitely in military prisons, and deny them habeas and other legal protections.

Section 1031 of the FY 2010 Defense Authorization Act contained the 2009 Military Commissions Act, listing changes that include discarding the phrase "unlawful enemy combatant" for "unprivileged enemy belligerent." More on that below.

Seamlessly, Obama continues Bush administration practices and added others, including:

-- greater than ever surveillance;

-- ruthless political persecutions;

-- preventively detaining individuals ordered released - "who cannot be prosecuted," he said, "yet who pose a clear danger to the American people;"

-- a secret "hit list" authorizing CIA and Pentagon operatives to kill US citizens abroad based on unsubstantiated evidence they're involved in alleged plots against America or US interests;

-- weaker whisleblower protections;

-- state secrets privilege to block lawsuits by victims of rendition, torture, abuse or warrantless wiretapping; and

-- other anti-democratic measures.

Now, the March 4 S. 3081: Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010 to interrogate and detain "enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents, and for other purposes."

On the Senate floor, John McCain explained it, saying "we still don't have a clear mechanism, legal structure, and implementing policy for dealing with terrorists who we capture in the (alleged) act of trying to bring about attacks on the United States and our national security interests at home and abroad."

These suspects have no right to "Miranda warnings and defense lawyers. Instead, the priority and focus must be on isolating and neutralizing the immediate threat and collecting intelligence to prevent" any attacks.

"I (also) believe we must establish a system for long-term detention of terrorists who are too dangerous to release, but who cannot be tried in a civilian court" because no evidence exists to convict them.

At a March 4 press conference, Senator Joe Lieberman told reporters:

"These are not common criminals. They are war criminals. Anyone we capture in this war should be treated as a prisoner of war, held by the military, interrogated for information that will protect Americans and help us win this war and then where appropriate, tried not in a normal federal court where criminals are tried but before a military commission."

S. 3081 Provisions

The bill imposes harsh police state measures, including:

-- targeting anyone worldwide, including US citizens, "suspected of engaging in (or materially supporting) hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners through an act of terrorism, or by other means...;"

-- placing such individuals "in military custody for purposes of initial interrogation and determination of status in accordance with the provisions of this Act;"

-- transporting them to intelligence officials for more interrogation;

-- determining who may be a "high-value detainee (HVD);"

-- further interrogating those individuals by a "High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group (HVIG)....utiliz(ing) military and intelligence personnel, and Federal, State, and local law enforcement personnel....;"

-- having HVIGs submit their determination to the Defense Secretary and Attorney General after consulting with the Directors of National Intelligence, FBI, and CIA. "The Secretary of Defense and Attorney General (will then) make a final determination and report (it) to the President and the appropriate committees of Congress. In the case of any disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President will make the determination;"

-- designating seized individuals "unprivileged enemy belligerent(s);"

-- denying them Miranda rights:

-- deciding on a "Final (status) Determination" within 48 hours, "to the extent practicable;"

-- letting the President establish HVD interrogation group operations and activities, including whether detainees "meet the criteria for treatment as a high-value detainee for purposes of interrogation....," including the potential threat held individuals pose:

(1) for an attack against America, its citizens, US military personnel or facilities;

(2) their potential intelligence value;

(3) membership in or affiliation with Al Qaeda; and

(4) "such other matters as the President considers appropriate."

Pending final determination, detainees "shall be treated as unprivileged enemy belligerent(s)," defined as:

"An individual, including a citizen of the United States (to) be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities."

An "unprivileged enemy belligerent" means anyone (with or without evidence) suspected of "engag(ing) in (or materially supporting) hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners," including alleged Al Qaeda members.

Raised Concerns

Designating individuals "unlawful enemy combatants" or "unprivileged enemy belligerents" places them in legal limbo, contrary to international law, the Constitution, and three recent Supreme Court decisions:

-- Rasul v. Bush (2004) establishing US court system jurisdiction to decide if Guantanamo-held non-US citizens were wrongfully imprisoned;

-- Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (2004) granting US citizen Yaser Hamdi and other Guantanamo detainees habeas rights to challenge their detentions in federal courts; and

-- Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006) denying Guantanamo military commissions "the power to proceed because (their) structures and procedures violate both the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the four Geneva Conventions signed in 1949."

Obama-ordered preventive detentions (against uncharged persons) and S. 3081 violate international law, the Constitution, and the above Supreme Court decisions.

Writing for the Jurist Legal News & Research, University of Utah Law Professor, Amos Guiora, calls the proposed bill "the latest example of panic-based legislation" in the wake of the (false flag) December airplane bombing and whether alleged 9/11 suspects will be tried in federal or military courts - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and others falsely charged based on tortured-extracted confessions.

Holding detainees through "end of hostilities in the terrorism paradigm is a euphemism for indefinite detention....subject(ing) an extraordinarily broad group of persons" to cruel and inhumane treatment based on unsubstantiated charges, and denying them due process and judicial fairness.

Guiora calls the proposed law:

"a fundamental miscarriage of justice created by the unconstitutional denial of the right to counsel, the right to remain silent, the right to be free from arbitrary, let alone indefinite detention, and the right to a day in court." Unfortunately, too often "legitimacy and justification take a back seat" to expediency and the political climate of the times.

As a result, innocent victims are unjustly arrested, called terrorists, interrogated, tortured, indefinitely detained and denied all rights despite constitutional and international law protections.

"Republicans and Democrats alike have failed to articulate, create and implement a lawful interrogation, detention and trial regime for post-9/11 detainees. That is shameful and reflects negatively on two Presidents, the Congress and the Supreme Court."

The major media also. Their reports hype the threat, pre-determine guilt, and influence public opinion to believe government-charged individuals are dangerous, guilty, and should be confined to deter "terrorism."

Yet the Constitution's Fifth Amendment states:

"No person shall....be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law....;" and

The 14th Amendment reads:

No "State (may) deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Yet in a climate of fear and intimidation, everyone is potentially vulnerable to legislative lawlessness if congressional timidity lets S. 3081 pass in an election year.

According to Guiora, it comes down to "the rule of law or the rule of fear." Protecting American citizens and national security is one thing. Discarding core legal principles to do it reflects the worst elements of police state justice.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

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#2. To: Stephen Lendman (#0) (Edited)

the Constitution's Fifth Amendment states:

"No person shall....be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law....;" and

The 14th Amendment reads:

No "State (may) deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Those are from two different constitutions; the first is from the original which bound the United States to the debt it incurred during the Rothschild-contrived "American" Revolution. That's why there's a Rothschild eagle on the US Seal. Research the connection between Haim Solomon and Rothschild and the Amsterdam banksters, and George Washington. [sweetliberty.org is a good place to start.] Solomon [Saloman] was a Roth$child agent. The "rights" in that first Constitution referred to those of white Citizens of the States.

The 14th Amendment [which also states that the "national debt cannot be questioned"] was never properly ratified, and it was under the new Constitution for the Corporation located in the District of Columbia that superceded the Republic. It refers to "privileges" not rights, granted to the serfs by the Corporation, black OR white, who now joined the ranks of slaves by virtue of their volunteering themselves into the "jurisdiction" of the Beast in DC. What Congress giveth, can also be taken away. "Law" is really "color of law", and is whatever the hell they say it is from the "bench". "Law" was thrown out in 1938 [1933?] and was replaced by "public policy", or Admiralty, which is really piracy of the high seas extended to the land. That's how I see it, anyway. If one wages mutiny against the captains of the imaginary ship we are sailing [THE USS UNITED STATES, CORPORATION], and the captain's "law" says you will be detained, tortured, and/or thrown overboard, you just got your "due process" and "equal protection".

Supreme Law Library : "The Two United States and the Law" by Howard Freeman ... www.supremelaw.org/library/freeman.html

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The 14th Amendment .... refers to "privileges" not rights, granted to the serfs by the Corporation, black OR white, who now joined the ranks of slaves by virtue of their volunteering themselves into the "jurisdiction" of the Beast in DC....If one wages mutiny against the captains of the imaginary ship we are sailing [THE USS UNITED STATES, CORPORATION], and the captain's "law" says you will be detained, tortured, and/or thrown overboard, you just got your "due process" and "equal protection".

"Issues of Federal Jurisdiction

....Federal Jurisdiction Over Its "citizens"

Up until the Civil War, federal jurisdiction was a fairly straightforward proposition, without much confusion or complexity. The central question of federal jurisdiction in the pre-Civil War period was not what gave rise to it, or its general limitations, but only where to fix the exact boundary lines in a variety of circumstances. Such questions are proper and healthy to ask and that process continues to this very day. However, at end of the Civil War the federal jurisdiction question was muddied substantially by the adoption of the 14th Amendment. [See the Citizenship section within this site for more information on the 14th Amendment.]

Prior to the Civil War, the only "American" that could be found within a state of the Union was a Citizen of that state, or the Citizen of one of the other states of the Union. Both Citizens held the same "political status" and that status was recognized in the main body of the US Constitution. With the adoption of the 14th Amendment at the close of the Civil War a new form of "citizen" could be found within the states. This new type of citizen was essentially a "federal citizen", having received his citizenship not by birthright (i.e. being born within a state of the Union), but by a vote of the original de jure Citizens of the states, as expressed by their Representatives in Congress and in their state legislatures, as part of the ratification process of the 14th Amendment. This new federal citizen had far fewer rights than a de jure state Citizen and was of a completely different political status. Because his citizenship had been given to him solely through the 14th Amendment, the "rights" that went along with that form of citizenship were exclusively Congress' to protect and enforce.

In many ways, what we are describing is not much different than the non-amendment based political relationship that persons had with Congress if they were born in one of the early frontier Territories. What made this situation distinct was one little phrase in the 14th Amendment:

Section 1 - All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Those seven words changed the jurisdictional landscape forever. For the first time in the history of America, there were citizens of a state that did not owe their citizenship to their birth within the state, and the enforcement of their civil liberties was the exclusive domain of the Congress. In other words, for the first time, there were "citizens of a state" upon whom Congress' authority could operate directly and exclusively. What this produced was a situation in which there were [new] "state citizens" upon which Congress' authority could operate directly and exclusively, and [original] "state Citizens" over whom Congress had no authority whatsoever. It doesn't take a genius to foresee the confusion (and abuse) that would soon result from such a situation.

In short, Congress has jurisdiction over citizens who have attained their political status by virtue of the 14th Amendment, but does not have any inherent jurisdiction over Citizens that attained their citizenship solely by virtue of their birth within a state of the Union.

Federal Geographic Jurisdiction

The geographic jurisdiction of the United States is very limited and well defined. Federal geographic jurisdiction is limited to those places where the Unites States is the sovereign.

In the states of the Union, The People are the sovereigns. All power exercised by the state governments flows from the consent of The People.

When the federal government is operating within a state of the Union, and is in contact with a de jure state Citizen, it must respect all the rights, privileges, and immunities of The People.

However, there are places where the people are not sovereign; where the government's power is not derived from the people, and where the US government (in the form of the Congress) is free to act much like a king of old, rather than a servant of the people. These places are specified in the US Constitution at Article I, Section 8, Clause 17, to wit;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dock?yards, and other needful buildings... [emphasis added]

The handshake section is found at Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2:

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States. .. [emphasis added]

Together, these two sections have been interpreted by the US Supreme Court to grant Congress the authority to legislate in ways that would be unconstitutional if applied to the states of the Union. [See Downes v. Bidwel, 182 US 244 (1901), and Hooven and Allison Co. v. Evatt, 324 US 674 (1945).] Here is a sound "rule of thumb" for viewing the distinctions in Congressional power:

When legislating for the states of the Union, under the authority of a power granted to the federal government in the Constitution, Congress must stay strictly within the bounds of the power thus granted and limited. However, when legislating for places where the US is the sovereign, Congress may do anything not expressly prohibited by the Constitution.

The two modes of legislating are exactly opposite and give rise to irresistible temptation to use the more permissive (and dangerous) legislative power against the people of the states of the Union. ....."

http://www.originalintent.org/edu/federaljur.php

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The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States.

Under the all-encompassing "Commerce Clause" of the 14th Amendment Slave Ship, US "citizens" are considered "property", so Mc-Cain-Lieberman are well within their "rights". However, there is a solution for us serfs....

Redemption [excerpt]:

".... In the July/August (Summer Edition) of the American's Bulletin, page 12, appeared an introductory article about Redemption, written by Sam Davis. Therein, he went into the aspect of the 'Birth Certificates'. He wrote, "In 1936, with the advent of Social Security, the government of the United States (corporate), began to place each and every Birth Certificate in the Department of Commerce as a 'registered security'! Each SS# issued has been eventually matched up to said Birth Certificate, and a pledge of each Certificate has been made in the amount of $630,000.00! This is a result of HJR-192, the bankruptcy of the country, and the discharge of all debts dollar for dollar. This pledge of money on the 'public' side of the account is what we all use today in the form of Federal Reserve Notes! We pay taxes on the interest (usury, unjust weights and measures) and everything we own, or ever will own is collateral, including our bodies and our children!!"

A little hard to swallow, or yet, even understand. We'll try to explain!

In 1933 the federal corporation went bankrupt. The corporation, in order to continue (survive) had to put into place the means to fund the operation of the U.S. government corporation. While at the same time, the government continues to tell the American people that all was well, good economy etc. Since before that time, the government had already been dealing with commercial instruments, and they intended the Birth Certificate to be that 'other' commercial instrument, via their pledge to maintain the corporation and support the bankruptcy. Ask yourself the question, does your car title have value? What about your Deed of Trust? They're just pieces of paper ... aren't they?

What if you owned 1000 head of cattle, would they have value? Could you create some sort of 'Title' receipt to the cattle (chattel?), develop a value in dollars to the amount of cattle (market value!), then go to the bank and seek a loan on the 'value' expressed on paper (your title/commercial instrument!). Well certainly! That kind of a transaction happens everyday in America. As stated at one of the Redemption seminars, money is created by your signature! Keep in mind, if you owned those cattle, you could sell any number of them or shoot one!

But now, you've just been informed that a 'your' government created a commercial instrument, attached a value to it (declared it valuable) and as a commercial instrument, has sold them to raise what we call money, to fund their financial corporate appetite. Black or white, you are chattel property (subject property of the State!) and that includes your children! In America, children are called 'wards' of the State. 'Ward' means 'property'! Get the point? Now you know why the State can come into your home and take the children away! And you thought you lived in a free country!

As 'subject property of the State', you own nothing! No rights, just privileges, i.e.,_ The ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership" is only by virtue of government, i.e., law amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance (permit, license, etc.) with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State." (Senate Document no. 43, 73 Congress, 1st Session) (as referenced in the Redemption book) Did your congressman explain that to you? Now you know why the State compels licenses. A license is permission to do that which otherwise is illegal. Illegal for whom? Well, for those who are subjects! Certainly not for those who were to live in a free country, those who were to have rights secured by a Constitution? But if you believe that, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell!

But back to the birth certificates and similar 'instruments'. Have you ever given any thought to where the State keeps these 'instruments'? Every county has one. So count the counties in your State and that's how many 'warehouses' are in the State to house those instruments and many others, along with the States' main 'Vital Statistics Office'. Remember, those 'instruments' are 'vital' and very valuable!

If you remember back, the name was changed on the welfare office windows and walls to HUMAN RESOURCE Office! Are they telling you something, people?! You're just a resource! Your children are just a resource! The children are identified, numbered, thumb- printed and certified (birth certificate). But, hey! They've got to protect the children (or is it chattel?!) But it is the mother who signs the paperwork at the hospital that gives life to the Straw man and surrenders the 'child' to the State! Also, the State marriage license allows the State to be a party to that 'union'! Makes you proud to be an American, doesn't it?!

By the creation of these instruments, what your government created was a Trust-corporation, and it was identified by your name, most often spelled in upper case letters. It's also known as the Nom de Guerre or war name! That Trust-corporation is called a straw man and is a 'Front'. Just look at your driver's license to see the 'straw man' identified there! That's not really you! That's not your real name!

What the government really did to promote the general welfare and support the bankruptcy, was to compel privileges upon the people by and through their (your) straw man. It has been documented that as it pertains to rights (right to travel, marry, to work, IRS taxes, etc.), these things DO NOT APPLY AND NO LAW EXISTS TO PROVE THAT THEY APPLY TO YOU, A NATURAL MAN OR WOMAN! These are PRIVILEGES compelled on your Strawman! Many believe that they have God-given Rights. Evidently, not in a corporate fiction! But, the government by and through all of their various agencies are coming to your straw man to compel the privileges and to collect the revenue (re-venue the funds), fines, fees, and taxes, etc., to support their bankruptcy/corporation.

Except in this situation, the straw man is 'owned' by the government. The government owns you and the State owns all of your property. TALK ABOUT TEAM WORK! That's why, in the 'Right to Travel" issue, the State can compel the license, insurance and registration. Why? For one, it's their car and they own the strawman. By and through their agent (car dealer and DMV), when you register your car, you surrender ownership to the State! And you thought you 'owned your car', and lived in a free country!

We've touched on the Birth Certificates, the children, the Strawman, and ownership of property. The same applies to land, car, home, boat, airplane, your VCR and even your dog! If the government can tax it or take it away, then it's their property! Have you paid your 'use' taxes? Need a TUMS?

But then came REDEMPTION! A program that has been associated to a type of 'jubilee'. The definition of Redemption is, "The deliverance from the power of alien dominion and the enjoyment of the resultant freedom." --(Zondervan's Pictorial Encyclopedia of the bible).

Alien dominion? Well 'Alien' means foreign or strange, and dominion means "a country under a particular government"...

Would this not apply in a land where the Constitution has been set aside, where a bankruptcy has altered the form of law? Where the substance has been removed from the money, where only credit circulates as 'money'!? Where the people have been declared 'enemies of the State', and where the State owns everything! No rights, just privileges! Sounds 'Alien" to me! Certainly not like the America, we were taught in school to respect and love. More dis-information?

Redemption could be called the program to 'deal' with this alien form of a foreign quasi-military bankrupt corporate government operating under the UCC, as it is being foisted upon you the reader!

However, keep in mind, this program is not for everyone. For the State (corporations) must have persons (slaves) to manipulate and control. Many will remain enslaved due to the brainwashing and not understanding the issues of freedom and the economic fraud that has taken place in a land called America!...."

http://discharge-debt.com/id201.htm

Isaiah 52:2 ....Loose yourself from the bonds of your neck, O captive daughter of Zion! 3. For thus says the LORD: "You have sold yourselves for nought, and you shall be redeemed without money."

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Now, there is a note on another discharge-debt article:

"...Updated information about the significance of October 17th, 2005, and also what exactly is the "October Surprise" about that is being discussed on the low in powerful political circles. Now October 17th, 2005, is the date when the new bankruptcy laws go into effect, and also the little known fact that this will change the U.S. (corporate) bankruptcy Status from a Chapter 11 Reorganization to a Chapter 7 Liquidation. The foreign creditors that own most U.S. citizen's bonded birth certificate securities, will now be able to come in and liquidate all of their tangible & intangible assets. Yes, including the people aka U.S. citizen, because based on unrevealed non disclosed "adhesion contracts" they will be held as surety for their Strawman.

The statutory people fall under the category of intangible assets and thus have the "privilege" to work off their personal debt & the national debt (see # 11) in one of the up and running National Concentration Camps located through out the country. (see # 12). All that's missing is another 9-11/"national emergency". If you're watching the news I'm sure you see how they are mentally preparing the people to accept the Al-Qaedaians as this months new demon terrorist. What a perfect excuse to take away whatever residual rights left from 9-11. ...." www.discharge-debt.com/id128.htm

Note this was written some time ago, but OBL has been resurrected once again to be the boogey man, never mind any "terrorism" committed in his name will probably be done by MOSSAD/CIA.

I saw a video on Tim Turner made back in February, where he was wanting to deliver some paper to prevent Obama turning America over to NATO/UN when he made his trip overseas IN MARCH. That was the first I had heard of this [yesterday]. The title if anyone wants to look it up on youtube was: "Tim Turner Feb 25th Declaration Must be delivered to Military BEFORE NATO Takes Over". Now it becomes even more apparent why the big push to get the "health care" enslavement package through before he went, and why the new Police-State bill had to come down the pike. McCain-Lieberman and all the other captains on the Slave Ship USA don't want us slaves to get in the way of their selling us on the high seas of "commerce" to our new master [with our new slave collars firmly attached (RFID chips)], before they can retire on their pay-off for their dastardly deed.

IMO, we'll either have redemption the easy way, or redemption via the Battle of Armageddon.

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