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Title: Health care reform: Health care reform: Why so many pens at the signing ceremony?
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URL Source: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/re ... h_care_reform_why_so_many.html
Published: Mar 24, 2010
Author: The Reliable Source
Post Date: 2010-03-29 12:58:09 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Obama, Health Care Legislation, signing, ceremony
Views: 526
Comments: 56
Photo: President Obama signs health care reform legislation during a ceremony in the East Room of the White House on Tuesday. At his left are two boxes of extra pens. (Reuters/Jason Reed) 3 min. 23 sec. Video: Article: Health care reform: Why so many pens at the signing ceremony? Ever try to sign your name with 22 pens? Not so easy. "I've got to use every pen so it's going to take a really long time," said Barack Obama at Tuesday's historic signing of the health care bill. "I didn't practice." In a longtime tradition, the president put his signature to the bill using almost two dozen commemorative pens, which were handed out to key congressional leaders and others who helped pass the legislation. It took the lefty more than 90 seconds to pick up each of the 22 pens and make a small portion of each letter in his name -- and yeah, the signature probably looks a little weird. "We are done!" he announced with the final stroke. The White House didn't release details about the custom-made pens -- complete with the presidential seal and signature -- but aides to one recipient confirmed (on super-secret background) that they were black and manufactured by Cross, an American company. Obama used similar rolling-ball pens on his first day in office. The president gave one of the souvenirs to Vicki Kennedy, widow of Ted Kennedy, and Sister Carol Keehan, the Catholic nun who gave the bill a critical endorsement. Marcelas Owens, the motherless 11-year-old boy who became a national symbol for health-care reform, didn't get a pen but did stand next to Obama during the ceremony. The pen-worthy were primarily politicians who pushed the bill through: Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Majority Whip James Clyburn, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Sens. Dick Durbin, Max Baucus, Tom Harkin and Chris Dodd, and Reps. John Dingell, George Miller, Henry Waxman, Sander Levin and Charlie Rangel. HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius got one, as did Nancy-Ann DeParle, the White House point person on health reform, and Phil Schiliro, White House congressional liaison. The president kept one pen for himself and gave one to Vice President Biden -- who added his own special touch to the day when he whispered to Obama (in front of an open mike) that it was a "big [frakking] deal." Indeed -- the remaining two pens will be donated to the National Archives.
Poster Comment: So it's "a longtime tradition", is it, for him (and past residents of the WH?) to sign legislation with many pens so the "signature" looks not only like weird scribbling by a forger but maybe could even be struck down as a jokester's deliberate fakery-prank with no legitimacy? Think of all the UnConstitutional trash we could throw out immediately! I'm hoping for a miracle that Judge Napolitano thinks so, too.
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#5. To: GreyLmist (#0)
He can practice signing his name all he wants but he is still ineligible to hold the office and the legislation he signs is not law.
Chief Justice of the USSC, John Roberts swore him in twice. Apparently the USSC thinks he is eligible. What news did you learn that strikes this down?
Oh, you poor, pitiful thing! Have you not heard that Obama has spent upwards of 2 million dollars to keep his actual birth certificate under wraps? I thought it was common knowledge but maybe not.
I have read the rumour. Do you have proof?
Yep. All I need.
Do you mind sharing your "proof" with the lowly RiF_RaF?
I will show you how to do the search and you can find the sources if you really are interested (not that I believe you are). In the little search box at the top of your browser, enter these words: news sources--how much money has Obama spent, or has been spent on his behalf, to keep his birth certificate hidden? You might also include the words long form birth certificate since someone did post a Photoshop version of a short form on his behalf.
I can't find it. Can you be more explicit?
Who turns your computer on for you? Afraid I can't be any more help to you. But then, since you defend the indefensible I didn't really think there was any help for you anyway.
You make a lot of assumptions when attempting to be condescending in personal bearing.
You're just talkin' $#it, buck, and no one is interested in it but you. I told you how to find sources so that you could have the same information that I do. The fact that you choose not to avail yourself of any information and would just rather believe in Obama doesn't speak well of you.
Here is what 0bama has had to defend, thus far (no thanks to you, Jimmy): According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009. Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president. Bauer's warning was dated April 3 and delivered via letter to the plaintiff's attorney, John D. Hemenway. It is not the first such warning issued. Lawyers trying to kill a similar California lawsuit filed on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes also said they would seek sanctions against the plaintiff's attorneys in that case unless they left the issue of the president's eligibility alone. "For the reasons stated in Judge Robertson's ruling, the suit is frivolous and should not be pursued," Bauer's letter warned. "Should you decline to withdraw this frivolous appeal, please be informed that we intend to pursue sanctions, including costs, expenses and attorneys' fees, pursuant to Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 38 and D.C. Circuit Rule 38." The FEC report also reveals Obama For America has spent nearly $9.5 million in the first three months of this year – of which $6,365 in legal fees paid by Obama For America also went to Oldaker, Biden & Belair, a firm founded by Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden. Here is a partial listing and status update for some of the cases over Obama's eligibility: * New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president. * Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama's original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg's latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was denied. * Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing. * Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing. * Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support. * Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe. * Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied. * In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied. * In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied. * In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter. * California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters. She also has been working on several other cases. In addition, other cases are raising questions about Obama's eligibility include: * In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed. * In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed. * In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade. * In Washington, L. Charles vs. Obama. * In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed. So what is wrong with that?
What is wrong with it? I guess what is wrong is that the sob that you seem to be so crazy about spends a fortune to keep a birth certificate hidden. I don't know how much it costs to produce one from Hawaii but I do know I had to produce one--a real one--to get a passport. And believe it or not it didn't cost anywhere near 2 million dollars! No, more like ten or fifteen. So unless Hawaii is way out of line with what seems to be about average I would say your boy must be hiding something really bad. Because no one spends as much as he has to hide their birth certificate.
He is defending his own private papers in a publick court of law time and time and again. I don't see what is hidden.
You say in the second sentence that you "don't see what is hidden." Neither does anyone else and Obama wants to keep it that way. Two MILLION dollars (give or take) to hide a birth certificate which would cost 20 dollars (or thereabouts) to produce. He should be forced to produce the actual birth certificate, not that Photoshop pos that some of his supporters put on the internet. And his school records and all the other stuff he is desperately trying to keep under wraps.
You'd think that the Obama Bots would be encouraging Obama to release his college transcripts to prove to everyone that he is the intellectual genius that they know him to be.[smirk]
#41. To: scrapper2 (#39)
That could play against the merits. Suppose he was just a dumb fuck with average or even less than average grades and attendance taking advantage of his race card?
Could it be that they really know better and hope that everyone else just won't catch on? Too late, I had him figured for a stupid sob a long time ago. He is even dumber than Bush. Never did hear Bush say that anything he was proposing was going to save anyone 3,000% like Obama did about Obamacare. The only way that could happen would be if the insurance companies paid people to keep their insurance. And Bush never whined about having to campaign in "57 states."
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"I've got to use every pen so it's going to take a really long time," said Barack Obama at Tuesday's historic signing of the health care bill. "I didn't practice."
#11. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
He can practice signing his name all he wants but he is still ineligible to hold the office and the legislation he signs is not law.
#19. To: buckeroo (#11)
Chief Justice of the USSC, John Roberts swore him in twice. Apparently the USSC thinks he is eligible. What news did you learn that strikes this down?
#22. To: James Deffenbach (#19)
Have you not heard that Obama has spent upwards of 2 million dollars to keep his actual birth certificate under wraps?
#24. To: buckeroo (#22)
I have read the rumour. Do you have proof?
#27. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
#28. To: buckeroo (#27)
#29. To: James Deffenbach (#28)
In the little search box at the top of your browser
#30. To: buckeroo (#29)
I can't find it. Can you be more explicit?
#31. To: James Deffenbach (#30)
... In the little search box at the top of your browser
#32. To: buckeroo (#31)
#33. To: James Deffenbach (#32)
The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 – to the tune of $378,375.52.
#34. To: buckeroo (#33)
#37. To: James Deffenbach (#34)
I guess what is wrong is that the sob that you seem to be so crazy about spends a fortune to keep a birth certificate hidden.
#38. To: buckeroo (#37)
He is defending his own private papers in a publick court of law time and time and again. I don't see what is hidden.
#39. To: James Deffenbach (#38)
And his school records and all the other stuff he is desperately trying to keep under wraps.
Replies to Comment # 39. You'd think that the Obama Bots would be encouraging Obama to release his college transcripts to prove to everyone that he is the intellectual genius that they know him to be.
#45. To: scrapper2 (#39)
You'd think that the Obama Bots would be encouraging Obama to release his college transcripts to prove to everyone that he is the intellectual genius that they know him to be.[smirk]
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