Title: Health care reform: Health care reform: Why so many pens at the signing ceremony? Source:
voices.washingtonpost.com URL Source:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/re ... h_care_reform_why_so_many.html Published:Mar 24, 2010 Author:The Reliable Source Post Date:2010-03-29 12:58:09 by GreyLmist Keywords:Obama, Health Care Legislation, signing, ceremony Views:609 Comments:56
Photo: President Obama signs health care reform legislation during a ceremony in the East Room of the White House on Tuesday. At his left are two boxes of extra pens. (Reuters/Jason Reed)
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Health care reform: Why so many pens at the signing ceremony?
Ever try to sign your name with 22 pens? Not so easy.
"I've got to use every pen so it's going to take a really long time," said Barack Obama at Tuesday's historic signing of the health care bill. "I didn't practice."
In a longtime tradition, the president put his signature to the bill using almost two dozen commemorative pens, which were handed out to key congressional leaders and others who helped pass the legislation. It took the lefty more than 90 seconds to pick up each of the 22 pens and make a small portion of each letter in his name -- and yeah, the signature probably looks a little weird. "We are done!" he announced with the final stroke.
The White House didn't release details about the custom-made pens -- complete with the presidential seal and signature -- but aides to one recipient confirmed (on super-secret background) that they were black and manufactured by Cross, an American company. Obama used similar rolling-ball pens on his first day in office.
The president gave one of the souvenirs to Vicki Kennedy, widow of Ted Kennedy, and Sister Carol Keehan, the Catholic nun who gave the bill a critical endorsement. Marcelas Owens, the motherless 11-year-old boy who became a national symbol for health-care reform, didn't get a pen but did stand next to Obama during the ceremony.
The pen-worthy were primarily politicians who pushed the bill through: Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Majority Whip James Clyburn, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Sens. Dick Durbin, Max Baucus, Tom Harkin and Chris Dodd, and Reps. John Dingell, George Miller, Henry Waxman, Sander Levin and Charlie Rangel. HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius got one, as did Nancy-Ann DeParle, the White House point person on health reform, and Phil Schiliro, White House congressional liaison.
The president kept one pen for himself and gave one to Vice President Biden -- who added his own special touch to the day when he whispered to Obama (in front of an open mike) that it was a "big [frakking] deal." Indeed -- the remaining two pens will be donated to the National Archives.
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So it's "a longtime tradition", is it, for him (and past residents of the WH?) to sign legislation with many pens so the "signature" looks not only like weird scribbling by a forger but maybe could even be struck down as a jokester's deliberate fakery-prank with no legitimacy? Think of all the UnConstitutional trash we could throw out immediately! I'm hoping for a miracle that Judge Napolitano thinks so, too.
Imo, Chief Justice Roberts looks rather constipated in your photo at the Imposter's Inaugeration.
Check out Roberts' expression at Barry's SOTU address. Not too pleased, frowning if truth be told. Alioto is pulling his ear off [ in anger?]. Anthony Kennedy has a frozen pissed off look, too. No comment on Ginsburg - archetypal Obumski cheerleader, what can one say.
Chief Justice of the USSC, John Roberts swore him in twice. Apparently the USSC thinks he is eligible. What news did you learn that strikes this down?
Oh, you poor, pitiful thing! Have you not heard that Obama has spent upwards of 2 million dollars to keep his actual birth certificate under wraps? I thought it was common knowledge but maybe not.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
There are 22 characters in the Hebrew alphabet, 22 Tarot trumps, and 22 paths on the Tree of Life.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
No it isn't. You said he had been sleeping fine but you couldn't know that unless you were there. For all you know he could be having nightmares every night for helping to inflict this disaster on America. And I hope he is.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Who turns your computer on for you? Afraid I can't be any more help to you. But then, since you defend the indefensible I didn't really think there was any help for you anyway.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
You're just talkin' $#it, buck, and no one is interested in it but you. I told you how to find sources so that you could have the same information that I do. The fact that you choose not to avail yourself of any information and would just rather believe in Obama doesn't speak well of you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
Here is what 0bama has had to defend, thus far (no thanks to you, Jimmy):
The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 to the tune of $378,375.52.
According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.
Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.
Bauer's warning was dated April 3 and delivered via letter to the plaintiff's attorney, John D. Hemenway. It is not the first such warning issued. Lawyers trying to kill a similar California lawsuit filed on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes also said they would seek sanctions against the plaintiff's attorneys in that case unless they left the issue of the president's eligibility alone.
"For the reasons stated in Judge Robertson's ruling, the suit is frivolous and should not be pursued," Bauer's letter warned. "Should you decline to withdraw this frivolous appeal, please be informed that we intend to pursue sanctions, including costs, expenses and attorneys' fees, pursuant to Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 38 and D.C. Circuit Rule 38."
The FEC report also reveals Obama For America has spent nearly $9.5 million in the first three months of this year of which $6,365 in legal fees paid by Obama For America also went to Oldaker, Biden & Belair, a firm founded by Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden.
Here is a partial listing and status update for some of the cases over Obama's eligibility:
* New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.
* Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama's original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg's latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was denied.
* Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.
* Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.
* Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.
* Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.
* Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.
* In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.
* In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.
* In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.
* California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters. She also has been working on several other cases.
In addition, other cases are raising questions about Obama's eligibility include:
* In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.
* In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.
What is wrong with it? I guess what is wrong is that the sob that you seem to be so crazy about spends a fortune to keep a birth certificate hidden. I don't know how much it costs to produce one from Hawaii but I do know I had to produce one--a real one--to get a passport. And believe it or not it didn't cost anywhere near 2 million dollars! No, more like ten or fifteen. So unless Hawaii is way out of line with what seems to be about average I would say your boy must be hiding something really bad. Because no one spends as much as he has to hide their birth certificate.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
I would say your boy must be hiding something really bad.
It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone. ~ Rose F. Kennedy
It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone. ~ Rose F. Kennedy
He is defending his own private papers in a publick court of law time and time and again. I don't see what is hidden.
You say in the second sentence that you "don't see what is hidden." Neither does anyone else and Obama wants to keep it that way. Two MILLION dollars (give or take) to hide a birth certificate which would cost 20 dollars (or thereabouts) to produce. He should be forced to produce the actual birth certificate, not that Photoshop pos that some of his supporters put on the internet. And his school records and all the other stuff he is desperately trying to keep under wraps.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
And his school records and all the other stuff he is desperately trying to keep under wraps.
You'd think that the Obama Bots would be encouraging Obama to release his college transcripts to prove to everyone that he is the intellectual genius that they know him to be.[smirk]
He should be forced to produce the actual birth certificate ....
That infers a requirement or some sort of law. There aren't any. He was vetted through a normal political process within his own party.
Now, I agree with you about private records for those running for elected public office. They should be able to fully support by fact and records this sort of scrutiny. But it doesn't exist.
You'd think that the Obama Bots would be encouraging Obama to release his college transcripts to prove to everyone that he is the intellectual genius that they know him to be.
That could play against the merits. Suppose he was just a dumb fuck with average or even less than average grades and attendance taking advantage of his race card?
His teaching gig at Columbia was a political appointment, he taught ONE class, didn't fraternize with the other professors, and NOBODY has EVER interviewed ONE student he allegedly taught. Talk about a coverup.....
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
You'd think that the Obama Bots would be encouraging Obama to release his college transcripts to prove to everyone that he is the intellectual genius that they know him to be.[smirk]
Could it be that they really know better and hope that everyone else just won't catch on? Too late, I had him figured for a stupid sob a long time ago. He is even dumber than Bush. Never did hear Bush say that anything he was proposing was going to save anyone 3,000% like Obama did about Obamacare. The only way that could happen would be if the insurance companies paid people to keep their insurance. And Bush never whined about having to campaign in "57 states."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
That infers a requirement or some sort of law. There aren't any. He was vetted through a normal political process within his own party.
Well yeah, I suppose it would have been beyond the founders wildest dreams that some effin' Kenyan could run for president and hide every record pertaining to himself. Obama is just the latest insult in a long line and more proof that the ptb are turning America into a third-world $#ithole.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
I suppose it would have been beyond the founders wildest dreams that some effin' Kenyan could run for president and hide every record pertaining to himself.
When America formed through the 13 colonies, it was a privilege to serve for the government, typically by landowners, professionals and so forth. Voting was limited to the same and all voters had a sense of responsibility about themselves and the nation as a whole; the culture was largely agrarian in 1775 and there was a large sense of duty for our fellow man based upon concrete ethics and morals.
Today, little of the founding culture exists. It was unimaginable that politicians were simply seeking power and wealth through a publick duty in government and [at that time] ample capability was built into the Constutition to prevent such atrocities.
0bama fell through the cracks. What really annoys me is not the lack of laws nor the vetting process (if used responsibly) but that obvious cover-ups by both major political parties. That is the real crux of the matter. That is clearly where there are no safeguards anymore. They are all whores scratching each other's backs while in bed together fucking the American People using the US Constitution as a condum.
0bama fell through the cracks. What really annoys me is not the lack of laws nor the vetting process (if used responsibly) but that obvious cover-ups by both major political parties. That is the real crux of the matter. That is clearly where there are no safeguards anymore.
I can agree with that for the most part. I do think that Congress needs to pass a law, or the states need to pass one, that anyone who runs for president has to produce proof that they were actually born in America. And not Photoshop bs like Obama's supporters put on the internet either.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
I had him figured for a stupid sob a long time ago. He is even dumber than Bush...Never did hear Bush say that anything he was proposing was going to save anyone 3,000% like Obama did about Obamacare... And Bush never whined about having to campaign in "57 states."
a. I was on board with you right from the start, too. After I saw Obama's under whelming performance in the Dem Presidential candidate debates, I realized what an empty suit/empty head dimwit he was. If it weren't for John Edwards offensive debate style against Hillary, Hillary would have won The Prize handily. Obama sat there watching the 2 of them spar verbally like a scared little rabbit. When he was asked a question, he replied like an actor who had memorized the lines. I said to myself then, wow, this Obama guy is just like the character, Chancey Gardiner, from the book "Being There."
b. And don't forget that memorable Town Hall meeting wherein Messiah claimed he had the answer to how America could break its addiction to oil. Obama - smug as bug in a rug all abeam - says the answer is we need to over inflate our tires. Ha! I loved it! You could tell the audience of ObamaBots were puzzled - like is this guy kidding, should we laugh? Or is he serious, should we clap? And the Messiah, being so full of himself, just kept digging himself deeper and deeper yapping on and on about his Grand Theory. There's a YouTube on this high comedy unless it's been wiped already because he made such an a*s of himself.
Postscript: Okay, I know you can get a couple of miles more to the gallon with over-inflated tires, but that teeny tiny gas saving idea is not going to break our dependence on oil.
c. I thought I heard that a conservative talk show/ website (?) was putting together a collection of Obamaisms [dopey remarks, slips of tongue] because MSM was covering for him so valiantly, although I recently heard a sound bite that MSM played of Messiah addressing the Marine Corps and he referred to them as Marine "Corpse" several times. Yikes! I guess his telepromter doesn't give him pronunciation guidelines for "hard words."
d. Imho, Poppy Bush and Clinton are smarter than Bush Jr. and Obama. And yes, Bush Jr. is definitely equal to Obama, if not smarter than Obama.
Obama has the advantage of INITIALLY appearing "more sophisticated" by virtue of his getting public speaking confidence and training in course of attending law school. Bush Jr. actually does really well in an unrehearsed setting on a one-to-one discussion. I remember seeing him in news clip - maybe his first term in office? - standing in the rain talking to a couple of farmers at a time when there was lots of flooding in the Midwest and some aides came running over with umbrellas to shield him from the rain and Bush kind of pushed them aside and just kept standing in the rain listening and talking to these upset farmers.
It was a simple but very cool scene, showing what gov't should be - responsive to people, of and for them. I think Bush Jr. really came across poorly in prepared speeches where he had to mouth words and phrases that were not his own. Anyways, just to be clear - this discussion is about raw intelligence vs sophistry, and nothing about the aforementioned Presidents' political policies.
b. And don't forget that memorable Town Hall meeting wherein Messiah claimed he had the answer to how America could break its addiction to oil. Obama - smug as bug in a rug all abeam - says the answer is we need to over inflate our tires. Ha! I loved it! You could tell the audience of ObamaBots were puzzled - like is this guy kidding, should we laugh? Or is he serious, should we clap? And the Messiah, being so full of himself, just kept digging himself deeper and deeper yapping on and on about his Grand Theory. There's a YouTube on this high comedy unless it's been wiped already because he made such an a*s of himself.
I would hate to see the IQ scores of people who believe Obama is "smart." They would have to be a good bit less than comfortable room temperature.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
There are 22 characters in the Hebrew alphabet, 22 Tarot trumps, and 22 paths on the Tree of Life.
Intriguing. One of the things I learned in researching this escapade and the number 22 is that there are 22 yards in a chain, which is a British Imperial unit of measurement. The "souvenir" pens cost taxpayers around $135 ea. - close to $3000 for about 90 seconds of tomfoolery on the Hill in these times of economic crisis. I also learned that Communist FDR started the so-called multi-pen "tradition", Johnson used 70-72 pens for his "signature" on one piece of legislation, Bill Clinton used 40 once, and there are numerous other examples. All of those supposed laws with improper signatures should be thrown out, imo, as invalid.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The "souvenir" pens cost taxpayers around $135 ea. - close to $3000 for about 90 seconds of tomfoolery on the Hill in these times of economic crisis.
Chump change to the elite, who routinely spend OUR money to the tune of a few billion here, a few billion there, and a few TRILLION for their REALLY dear friends.
As far as the number 22, and the relations to the Hebrew alphabet, Tarot trumps, and paths on the Tree of Life, they are all interelated in terms of direct correspondance to each other. It is part of the mystical knowledge of the Qaballah, which is rooted in Jewish Myticism, practiced by occult organizations such as Masonic lodges.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
22 divided by 7 approximates the irrational number Pi. Occultists are fascinated with Pi and the first time the House voted to pass this Insurance Racket was Nov. 7, 2009.
Here are some other numbers I think are interesting about the votes:
More states voted unanimously in the House against the bill (11) than voted unanimously for it (8). 4 more states would have voted unanimously against the bill except for one "Yes" vote.
The states that voted unanimously against the bill are:
In French, "22" is used as a phrase to warn of the coming of the police (typically "22, v'là les flics !", "22, here come the cops!")
With Obama's flicks of 22 pens, Americans are threatened with jail for not being able to afford the bills for CommieCare. Rep. John Dingell (Democrat from Michigan) was given one of the pens. He also has a pen from Johnson's signing of the Medicare bill. Here's what he had to say this time about controlling the people; nevermind that he sounds like he's not good with numbers or might be thinking of population downsizing by the hundreds of millions:
"The harsh fact of the matter is when youre going to pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people.
Because controlling the people is what its all about.
Flashback to the beginning of March, before the Democrats' CommieCare putsch. At that time (as during the Clinton era when they had the White House), they were gearing up yet again with their typically predictable demonization of militias and patriot groups. The SPLC (aka ADL South) had just released their maniacal report to that effect and MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan was working in concert with them to whip up a frenzy of hysteria -- even attacking the Constitution Party and the Oathkeepers as extremists. And what psyop appeared almost immediately, as if on cue, to distract us from the CommieCare by threat of force issue but the freaky Hutaree militia skit with law enforcement cast as angelic superheros -- now playing "coincidentally" in Rep. Dingell's state..."to control the people" with fear and whatnot.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC