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Title: An argument to be made about immigrant babies and citizenship
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 32603077.html?waporef=obinsite
Published: Mar 28, 2010
Author: George F. Will
Post Date: 2010-03-30 17:44:22 by scrapper2
Keywords: illegal immigration, 14th Amendment
Views: 330
Comments: 6

A simple reform would drain some scalding steam from immigration arguments that may soon again be at a roiling boil. It would bring the interpretation of the 14th Amendment into conformity with what the authors of its text intended, and with common sense, thereby removing an incentive for illegal immigration.

To end the practice of "birthright citizenship," all that is required is to correct the misinterpretation of that amendment's first sentence: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." From these words has flowed the practice of conferring citizenship on children born here to illegal immigrants.

A parent from a poor country, writes professor Lino Graglia of the University of Texas law school, "can hardly do more for a child than make him or her an American citizen, entitled to all the advantages of the American welfare state." Therefore, "It is difficult to imagine a more irrational and self-defeating legal system than one which makes unauthorized entry into this country a criminal offense and simultaneously provides perhaps the greatest possible inducement to illegal entry."

Writing in the Texas Review of Law and Politics, Graglia says this irrationality is rooted in a misunderstanding of the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." What was this intended or understood to mean by those who wrote it in 1866 and ratified it in 1868? The authors and ratifiers could not have intended birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants because in 1868 there were and never had been any illegal immigrants because no law ever had restricted immigration.

If those who wrote and ratified the 14th Amendment had imagined laws restricting immigration -- and had anticipated huge waves of illegal immigration -- is it reasonable to presume they would have wanted to provide the reward of citizenship to the children of the violators of those laws? Surely not.

The Civil Rights Act of 1866 begins with language from which the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause is derived: "All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States." (Emphasis added.) The explicit exclusion of Indians from birthright citizenship was not repeated in the 14th Amendment because it was considered unnecessary. Although Indians were at least partially subject to U.S. jurisdiction, they owed allegiance to their tribes, not the United States. This reasoning -- divided allegiance -- applies equally to exclude the children of resident aliens, legal as well as illegal, from birthright citizenship. Indeed, today's regulations issued by the departments of Homeland Security and Justice stipulate:

"A person born in the United States to a foreign diplomatic officer accredited to the United States, as a matter of international law, is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. That person is not a United States citizen under the 14th Amendment."

Sen. Lyman Trumbull of Illinois was, Graglia writes, one of two "principal authors of the citizenship clauses in 1866 act and the 14th Amendment." He said that "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" meant subject to its "complete" jurisdiction, meaning "not owing allegiance to anybody else." Hence children whose Indian parents had tribal allegiances were excluded from birthright citizenship.

Appropriately, in 1884 the Supreme Court held that children born to Indian parents were not born "subject to" U.S. jurisdiction because, among other reasons, the person so born could not change his status by his "own will without the action or assent of the United States." And "no one can become a citizen of a nation without its consent." Graglia says this decision "seemed to establish" that U.S. citizenship is "a consensual relation, requiring the consent of the United States." So: "This would clearly settle the question of birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens. There cannot be a more total or forceful denial of consent to a person's citizenship than to make the source of that person's presence in the nation illegal."

Congress has heard testimony estimating that more than two-thirds of all births in Los Angeles public hospitals, and more than half of all births in that city, and nearly 10 percent of all births in the nation in recent years, have been to mothers who are here illegally. Graglia seems to establish that there is no constitutional impediment to Congress ending the granting of birthright citizenship to those whose presence here is "not only without the government's consent but in violation of its law."


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...Congress has heard testimony estimating that more than two-thirds of all births in Los Angeles public hospitals, and more than half of all births in that city, and nearly 10 percent of all births in the nation in recent years, have been to mothers who are here illegally...

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)

To end the practice of "birthright citizenship," all that is required is to correct the misinterpretation of that amendment's first sentence: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." From these words has flowed the practice of conferring citizenship on children born here to illegal immigrants.

It shall never happen. The USSC rarely if ever rescinds an interpretation. Even if such an event came up on the docket, it would take 20 years. And by that time, a new generation of illegals shall be voting and receiving their just rewards from the system.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-30   18:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

It shall never happen. The USSC rarely if ever rescinds an interpretation.

Proponents for extending birthright citizenship to US born children of illegals always refer to the findings of US v. Wong Kim Ark case law as the precedent that supports their point of view.

However Wong Kim Ark's parents were legal non-citizen residents of the United States at the time of his birth. Therefore the Wong Kim Ark case findings might be wobbly if there were a legal challenge to birthright citizenship being automatically granted to children born in the USA whose parents were residing here illegally.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-03-30   19:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)

It is interesting that we don't see challenges or if they are there I haven't heard about them. Illegal immigration and associated anchor babies has been a terrible problem for us and the politicians seem to enjoy permitting the escalation of the issue.

In California (circa 1994) Proposition 187 passed but was eventually thrown out by a federal judge. It went to appeal but was eventually dropped by Democrat Grey Davis. Today, California is essentially a bottomless pit for entitlements towards illegals and there is nothing the state can legally do about it.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-30   19:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

Today, California is essentially a bottomless pit for entitlements towards illegals and there is nothing the state can legally do about it.

Steve Poizner, a GOP candidate for Governor, has been running ads recently promising he would fight to repeal giving benefits to illegals if he's voted Governor. Quite hopeful news actually. He must be tapping into a growing sense of outrage in La La Land's taxpayers that his campaign handlers have identified.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-03-30   19:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#4) (Edited)

He would capture my vote in a heart beat. The problem about primary elections in California is ANYONE (undeclared party) can vote for the primary candidate of their choice. This means if a large block of voters decide to vote for the "other guy" he doesn't have a chance in HELL to enjoy a cup of ice tea.

The election system is fatally flawed.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-03-30   20:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Too late George.

neocon - Israel = "libertarian" anti-white

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-03-31   0:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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