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Title: Militia Probe Included Undercover FBI Agent
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Wall Street Journal
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... l?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories
Published: Mar 30, 2010
Author: By KEITH JOHNSON, ALEX P. KELLOGG, LAURE
Post Date: 2010-03-30 19:35:32 by Phant2000
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An undercover agent was part of the federal investigation of a Michigan-based Christian militia group that allegedly planned to spark an uprising against the government by killing police officers, court documents show. Evidence presented to the grand jury in federal court in Detroit included photographs of Thomas William Piatek, one of nine people indicted Monday in connection with alleged criminal activities by the militia group, known as Hutaree, in southeastern Michigan. The grand-jury exhibit included sworn testimony of a law-enforcement officer that Mr. Piatek "is the person known by a Cooperating Witness and an undercover FBI agent to be the person who participated in the criminal violations" detailed in the indictment. The court had to briefly unseal the indictment, issued Tuesday, March 23, in order to correct Mr. Piatek's middle name, which had been incorrectly written in the arrest warrant and indictment as "Edward." The indictment was publicly unsealed in federal court Monday. A spokesperson at the FBI's Detroit office declined to comment on the undercover agent and any role such an agent may have had in the investigation. A spokesman at the Justice Department in Washington also declined to discuss specifics of the investigation. Infiltration is a common tactic for law-enforcement officials targeting militia groups. It has been widely used to get inside domestic extremist groups, which have in the past proven easier to infiltrate than Islamic terror groups. In recent months, the FBI also has used one or more undercover agents or employees to carry out sting operations against suspected Islamic terrorists. Hosam Smadi and Michael Finton were both arrested last fall by the FBI after they conspired with the help of undercover agents to blow up public buildings with car bombs packed with fake explosives. Hutaree planned to kill an unidentified local law-enforcement officer in April and then attack local, state and federal officers who came to Michigan to attend the funeral, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan said in a 12-page indictment. Seven members of the group were arraigned in federal court in Detroit, one was arraigned in federal court in the Northern District of Indiana and the last was arrested Monday night. Those arraigned were ordered held without bond until further hearings this week. Federal agents made the arrests after weekend raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. The indictment said Hutaree had practiced attacks and other military maneuvers for more than a year, and had planned to use homemade bombs like those used against U.S. forces by insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bombs were the key part of the alleged plot to attack the funeral of a law-enforcement officer, the indictment said. that attack, the group planned to retreat to a remote "rally point" from which members would resist an expected response by the government, sparking what Hutaree's alleged leader, David Brian Stone, hoped would be a wider uprising against the government, the indictment said. FBI agent Andrew Arena called Hutaree "an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society." The group, whose name means "Christian Warrior," according to its Web site, didn't respond to emails. The Web site said the group was preparing for "the anti-Christ" and expected to "one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield." The site quotes scripture passages alluding to battle and the sacrifice of lives for a greater cause. The group used tiger-striped camouflage uniforms, the indictment said. Security officials in Washington have been watching the rejuvenation of the militia movement with unease for the past year. Some of the same conditions that last led to a surge of militias in the early 1990s—a tough economic environment and a Democratic administration in the White House—prevail today, investigators said. The election of Barack Obama as the country's first African-American president has galvanized some white supremacist in parts of the militia universe. Domestic terrorism from armed groups not connected to Islamic ideology is possible, said Lydia Khalil, a counter-terrorism researcher at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. Heidi Beirich, director of research for the Southern Poverty Law Center, Montgomery, Ala., said Hutaree has a MySpace page listing more than 300 "friends," some of which are members of other militia groups. Monday's indictment named Mr. Stone, 45 years old; his wife Tina Mae Stone, 44; and his son Joshua Matthew Stone, 21, all of Clayton, Mich.; Mr. Stone's other son, David Brian Stone Jr., 19, of Adrian, Mich.; and five other men from Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. The indictment said they conspired to engage in armed conflict with law enforcement officials. Joshua Matthew Stone was arrested by federal authorities in Hillsdale County, Mich., officials said. He was arraigned Tuesday before a U.S. District Court magistrate and was ordered held without bond until a hearing Wednesday. At the courthouse in Detroit Monday, a woman who identified herself as the elder Mr. Stone's ex-wife and David Brian Stone Jr.'s father, said that she left him "four or five years ago" after she felt he'd become dangerous. "When he went from handguns to big guns, I said, 'Enough,"' said Donna Stone, 44, of Adrian, Mich. Andrea Harsh, a friend of Donna Stone, said from her trailer in Adrian about 75 miles southwest of Detroit that she had once been engaged to the elder Mr. Stone but found him to be too violent and "I got out." Ms. Harsh said, "He makes it sound like he's out to promote Christianity. But he's not in it for Christ, he's in it to make a name for himself." She added that he "thought he could hide from the government." According to those women, Mr. Stone lives in a pair of attached trailers at the corner of two dirt roads. In the yard Monday, thee dogs were chained in the yard near an SUV. On Saturday night, federal agents arrived at the Adrian apartment of Brittany Bryant, Ms. Harsh's daughter and the fiance of David Brian Stone Jr. The younger Mr. Stone had recently moved into the apartment, Ms. Bryant said. Authorities came in with their guns out, she said, and spent about three hours searching the premises, taking, among other things, Bibles, her cellphone, notebooks, a camouflage military jacket and a belt buckle reading, "God, Guns and Guts." Ms. Bryant said her fiance "did very little" with the Hutaree group. She said he recently got a job at a factory and "was just trying to get his life together." Saturday afternoon in Sandusky, Ohio, federal agents swarmed a trailer park. Two residents said their two dogs started to bark as federal agents with guns piled out of a yellow truck marked SWAT. They soon emerged with Kristopher T. Sickles, 27, one of those charged Monday, in handcuffs. The Monks said they'd never met Mr. Sickles, but talked occasionally with his wife, Kelly. "He looked normal to me...nothing stood out about him," Mr. Monk said. Reached by telephone Monday, Ms. Sickles said her husband of three years is "innocent" and "had no idea that any of this was going on." Also on Saturday night, federal agents showed up in Whiting, Ind., at a two-story brick home where Mr. Piatek, 46, had grown up, neighbors said. Amanda Behrens, manager of Gusto's Pizza next door, said the tall, lean Mr. Piatek frequently wore Army fatigue pants and combat boots, "but I never suspected he would do anything dangerous. It just seemed like he had a hobby of military stuff." She trusted Mr. Piatek enough that she felt comfortable working night shifts alone because he pledged to keep an eye on her. Mr. Piatek wasn't home for the raid, but was arrested early Sunday in Clarendon Hills, Ill. News of his fate has rocked Whiting, Indiana, which remains the largely Catholic and Eastern European neighborhood it was decades ago, said longtime resident Melaine Kaminsky, 51. "This doesn't happen in our town," she said, adding that she heard of the raid of Mr. Piatek's home within 15 minutes of it happening. "This is the real deal, this is scary. It's all everybody's talking about." Poster Comment: I read this and knew damn well that Cyni was the "undercover agent"!!!
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#1. To: Phant2000 (#0)
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An undercover SNITCH was part of the federal investigation of a Michigan-based Christian militia group that allegedly planned to spark an uprising against the government by killing police officers, court documents show. My version is the truth.
YOUR government has snitches in every organization .
That is simply because we have NO honest people in OUR government.
I have no part of this criminal enterprise called government, I stopped voting, so it is all the voters fault.
Then you are more guilty than those who voted for buckwheat. You could have put the little guy from Vietnam in there, but NOOOOOO ... you had to have buckwheat sitting on the throne.
same here
Oh, oh ... another one was bit by buckwheat's dust!!! hehehehe
Buckwheat was bought and paid for with $700 million dollars of someones money and it was not mine.
It was the dollars of your joooooooooo relatives.
It has been estimated by numbers crunchers that 80 million more Americans were eligible to vote last time but opted out.
_________________________________________________________________________ Thanks, X-15. You sure did our POTUS justice!!!
I have no idea who these people are, but knowing government informers of the past (Ruby Ridge/Waco) I hope the jury listens to the evidence and tosses/deadlocks the charges if appropriate. I sure would love to be on that jury.
The snitches name is Thomas Piatek.
"The FBI had an informant inside the Hutaree group and he participated in the alleged conspiracy to kill law enforcement officers, according to The Wall Street Journal today. In sworn testimony, Thomas William Piatek is described as a Cooperating Witness and an undercover FBI agent."
When will some grand jury, somewhere, start charging the feebs with instigating, promoting, and provocateuring to create instances of violence? Shit on a stick. I am sick to death of this stuff.
Betcha' dollars to horse turds, hold the stakes in my teeth, that the slimy weasel snitch was a provocateur and was busy pushing this crazy idea. FBI = FEDERAL BUREAU OF INSTIGATION.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It use to be illegal to bait and trap people. Not anymore. If Piatek is indeed the snitch, I would not want to be in his shoes.
Indeed. I can recall when entrapment was ILLEGAL. Not any more.
It seems to me the only recent government attacks recently have been by lone wolves, not some asshats dressed in army surplus uniforms. In fact can anyone tell me where any militia ever perpetrated a crime?
The government cannot strike out at lone wolves so they do the next best thing. In todays news, IRS has fielded dozens of threats, all being investigated by FBI. Also IRS has issued request for bids for armed security for some of their buildings. And someone told me the government did not fear the lone wolf?
"An undercover agent played a role in the investigation that led to Monday's indictments. Grand jury testimony by a law enforcement officer referred to an "undercover FBI agent" who worked on the case. The FBI declined to comment, but infiltration is a common tactic for law-enforcement officials targeting domestic militia groups."
No. It's never happened, to my knowledge. It's always stooge inspired guys who are planning to do something. Which most of the time, they were totally incapable of planning, acquiring materiel, or equipment, to complete without the assistance and funding of .fbi. It's a freaking joke! why don't the mullets get?
Lod you are olde enough to remember when Judges would throw such trash out the first day with a warning to the cops about entrapment. Now they are all in cahoots.
Lawyers, bankers, state, local, federal law enforcement, politicians, doctors, quacks, judges all ===== PIGS.
Government control, one way or another.
And it's always oafs who haven't two nickles to rub together. With any kind of competent (read expensive) legal representation, these cases should be able to be blown up. Without knowing a single fact, I rate the government version as minus 10 on a standard sliding scale.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
A gov snitch in a militia? Gasp!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
A gov snitch in a militia? Gasp! Wouldn't it be just awful if some of them started having "accidents"?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
There is a possibility that Piatek was NOT to be identified as the snitch. The court records are sealed so perhaps someone bungled the entrapment.
The court records are sealed so perhaps someone bungled the entrapment. That could be. I wonder how well he sleeps tonight? Maybe a little restless tossing and turning? Maybe a new place to sleep?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
His insurance best be paid up. That strange noise in the middle of the night can be unsettling. Those good ole boys that own guns out that way are an ornery lot when...crossed...
True stuff. Since we are all now the terriers. To me, the line in the sand has already been drawn - by them, not us. We just have to wait for the first round to be fired, then game's on.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Lod... "The arrests have dealt "a severe blow to a dangerous organization that today stands accused of conspiring to levy war against the United States," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday." Neighbors said there were at least 20 cars of police when they arrested Piatek.
These guys had to know they were a huge target for a gov rat in their midst. Nothing surprising here.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAn undercover agent was part of the federal investigation of a Michigan-based Christian militia group that allegedly planned to spark an uprising against the government by killing police officers, court documents show.
#2. To: Phant2000 (#0)
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
YOUR government has snitches in every organization .
#4. To: Phant2000 (#3)
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
I have no part of this criminal enterprise called government, I stopped voting, so it is all the voters fault.
#6. To: Cynicom (#4)
#7. To: Itistoolate (#6)
same here
#8. To: Phant2000 (#5)
#9. To: Cynicom (#8)
Buckwheat was bought and paid for with $700 million dollars of someones money and it was not mine.
#10. To: Itistoolate (#6)
#11. To: Phant2000 (#5)
buckwheat
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: X-15 (#11)
#13. To: Cynicom (#1)
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
#15. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000 (#13)
#16. To: Phant2000. 4 (#0)
#17. To: Cynicom (#1)
An undercover SNITCH was part of the federal investigation of a Michigan-based Christian militia group that allegedly planned to spark an uprising against the government by killing police officers, court documents show.
#18. To: Lod (#16)
#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)
Betcha' dollars to horse turds, hold the stakes in my teeth, that the slimy weasel snitch was a provocateur and was busy pushing this crazy idea.
#20. To: Cynicom (#15)
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
It seems to me the only recent government attacks recently have been by lone wolves
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#23. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, 4 (#20)
In fact can anyone tell me where any militia ever perpetrated a crime?
#24. To: Lod (#23)
It's a freaking joke! why don't the mullets get?
#25. To: Cynicom (#24)
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Now they are all in cahoots.
#26. To: sizzlerguy (#25)
Lawyers, bankers, state, local, federal law enforcement, politicians, doctors, quacks, judges all ===== PIGS.
#27. To: Lod (#23)
It's always stooge inspired guys who are planning to do something.
#28. To: Phant2000 (#5)
#29. To: Cynicom (#18)
#30. To: Phant2000 (#0)
Militia Probe Included Undercover FBI Agent
#31. To: Flintlock, Phant2000 (#30)
Militia Probe Included Undercover FBI Agent
#32. To: Original_Intent (#31)
#33. To: Cynicom (#32)
There is a possibility that Piatek was NOT to be identified as the snitch.
#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)
Maybe a new place to sleep?
#35. To: Cynicom, resistors, all, 4 (#24)
Now they are all in cahoots.
#36. To: Lod (#35)
#37. To: Original_Intent (#31)
#38. To: Lod, All (#35)
#39. To: Original_Intent (#31)
#40. To: Flintlock (#39)
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