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Title: The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Published: Apr 1, 2010
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The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.

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#97. To: buckeroo (#92)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   16:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: SonOfLiberty (#87)
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are you heroically and manfully resisting the provisions of the patriot act, that was written by an israeli america radical who became the head of the DHS?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   16:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: SonOfLiberty, groundresonance (#87)

Everybody else seems to get it, or at least if they don't, they haven't said anything about it.

You blew your brief moment with me. Groundresonance was clear all along. How come you don't honour a few questions?

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   16:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: James Deffenbach (#95)

I am confident that you think you just got an atta-boy.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   16:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: groundresonance, buckeroo, SonOfLiberty, christine, all (#99)

groundresonance, buckeroo

You two mentally challenged twerps are annoying when you're not comical.

I, being one of those who don't have you on bozo, have noticed your antics.

You should knock it off.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-01   16:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: wudidiz (#101)

mentally challenged twerps

why cant you guys come up with valid arguments?

why are you reduced to namecalling?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   16:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonOfLiberty (#68)

scrapper: Do what you want with your time, "pal," but just so you know I'm not interested what SOL and ground have said to one another on other threads on other occasions.

buckeroo: Then, as a publick admission: you don't care about the issues being brought forward on this thread.

Fyi, buckeroo, whenever I want to make any "publick" admission, I am quite familiar with using a computer keyboard and the post function at 4um. I don't need any help from you regarding what I want to express.

Focus, buck, please. As I noted to you earlier, there is ONLY ONE ISSUE under discussion from my point of view. That issue is ground's disrespectful/abuse of SLO's free speech rights on this thread wherein ground impuned SLO's character with inflammatory allegations and malicious mis-statements of what SLO actually stated ON THIS THREAD. Right from the start of this thread, for no reason, ground made several rude, and provocative statements to and about SLO. It was quite bizarre and that's when I involved myself. I have not paid much attention to comments by ground or SLO on other threads and as I told you, I don't have any interest in what might be an attempt on your part to obscure ground's objectionable net behavior here and now ON THIS THREAD alone by posting cut and paste, out of context comments by the 2 of them from other threads.

So this is the last time I'm going to tell you this, buck, so pay close attention, please. I do not see any other "issues" as in plural in this thread. The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.

If you see other issues, go for it. Maybe you'll get lucky and you will engage another poster, besides ground, that is. But that other poster won't be me, that's for sure.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   16:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: scrapper2 (#103)

The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.

sol has posted exactly what he wanted to post.

too bad sol and the rest of you zionists have such a flagrant disregard for the truth when it comes to israel's control of american media, foreign policy, and politics.

too bad you so flagrantly disregard israel's role in trying to expand the wars.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   16:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: scrapper2 (#103)

sol tries to set himself up as some heroic resistance leader, a latterday che...

he's real good at complaining, he's real good at flowery speeches... sound and fury, signifying nothing.

but when it comes down to the truth of what's gone haywire, sol cant bring himself to face the facts.

why is that?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   16:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: scrapper2 (#103)

The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.

Wrong.

None were in admission. You created further problems believing in further tooth-faeries.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   16:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: wudidiz (#101)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   16:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Eric Stratton, buckeroo (#97)

Which question did you want answered bucky?

Let's put an end to this namby-pamby horseshit, shall we, it's cluttering up the comments grid!

Which post?

Given the time of day, he probably doesn't even know. Of course that could be true any time of the day.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   16:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: groundresonance, christine, Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, All (#104)

too bad sol and the rest of you zionists have such a flagrant disregard for the truth when it comes to israel's control of american media, foreign policy, and politics.

So now you're calling me a Zionist? This latest allegation just takes my breath away.

Oh my, now tears are running down my cheeks as I try to type.

I don't know what more I can add other than wow, just wow, you're a serious out-of-control, irrational, nutty babbling gnat of a poster.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   16:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: James Deffenbach (#108)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   16:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: buckeroo (#100)

I am confident that you think you just got an atta-boy.

You seem to be confident about a great many things, including that bs about global warming. Most people have already figured that one out though, it was just a scam to make a few efs like Al Gore rich. It may even dawn on you someday.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   16:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: scrapper2 (#109)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   16:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Eric Stratton (#112)

ROFLMAO!!

This thread is simply far too hilarious!

Yes, it's turned into quite a spectacular train wreck and though I know I should avert my eyes and drive on by, I can't resist stopping for a closer view, so to speak.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   16:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: scrapper2 (#113)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   16:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: scrapper2, SonOfLiberty (#113)

Yes, it's turned into quite a spectacular train wreck and though I know I should avert my eyes and drive on by, I can't resist stopping for a closer view, so to speak.

But your support of SoL is everlasting, 'eh? Sol wants to kick ass on a government he/she can't understand. And you are right there behind him.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   17:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Eric Stratton (#114)

For all the annoying, aggravating, dumb efs who make a daily effort to harass and aggravate people who haven't bothered you:

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   17:01:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: James Deffenbach (#116)

More plagiarism ..... what else do you do when given an opportunity ... suck up bandwidth?

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   17:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: buckeroo, christine (#115)

But your support of SoL is everlasting, 'eh? Sol wants to kick ass on a government he/she can't understand. And you are right there behind him.

And there you are, buck, making totally false, malicious and rather dangerous allegations about me.

And here I am reporting you to christine for abusing my free speech rights and violating her forum's rules of conduct.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   17:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: scrapper2 (#118)

And here I am reporting you.....

Good job. It won't be the last time I was banned *ANYWHERE* under the Sun with or without your commitment.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   17:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: James Deffenbach (#116)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   17:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: buckeroo (#117)

More plagiarism ..... what else do you do when given an opportunity ... suck up bandwidth?

Anyone ever tell you to E.S.A.D., buck?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   17:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: buckeroo (#119)

Good job. It won't be the last time I was banned *ANYWHERE* under the Sun with or without your commitment.

Only, clown like, to come back under a new name.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   17:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Eric Stratton (#120)

LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   17:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Eric Stratton (#46)

In hindsight, the CCCP, USSR, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or what RR used to call "The Evil Empire" threat was also overblown.

The USSR had thermonuclear tipped ICBMs both land based and on subs pointed at us. The Warsaw Pact had the largest concentration of tanks in the history of modern warfare pointed at western Europe. Cuba had (and still has) tactical nukes pointed at south Florida and Nikita Khrushchev said "We will bury you".

You call that a minor threat?

They were no more threat to rule the world than Saddam Hussein ever was.

Nonsense, Eric. Consider yourself placed on double secret probation until you burden yourself with the facts.

China hated them back then too.
During the cold war the Chinese were still using bugle calls and human wave attacks. They didn't get accurate nukes until Clinton sold them the technology.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-01   17:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Flintlock (#124)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   17:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: buckeroo, christine (#119)

Good job. It won't be the last time I was banned *ANYWHERE* under the Sun with or without your commitment.

A simple apology for blatantly mis-reprepresenting my views and a voluntary deletion of your falsehoods about me might have gone a long way to convincing me of your sincere regret for your outrageous conduct and I would have considered withdrawing my complaint to christine.

But since it appears you want to own your lies and suffer the consequences, frankly I would feel relieved if christine decided to ban you, buckeroo.

It's not fair to me or to other posters to have to worry about an unprincipled loose cannon like you, who shows no regret whatsoever for posting slanderous allegations about them anytime he pleases.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   17:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: scrapper2 (#126)

A simple apology for blatantly mis-reprepresenting my views and a voluntary deletion of your falsehoods about me might have gone a long way to convincing me of your sincere regret for your outrageous conduct and I would have considered withdrawing my complaint to christine.

Naw.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   17:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: scrapper2 (#126)

But since it appears you want to own your lies and suffer the consequences, frankly I would feel relieved if christine decided to ban you, buckeroo.

He's been banned from this board before--and probably just about every board he has ever posted on--but it does no good. Buck is one of those people who has no respect for private property, just changes screen names and comes back posting the same bs. He is like happy fun ball/squirrel nuts/fifty screen names in that regard.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   18:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: James Deffenbach (#128)

I was here before you, Jimmy ... and I will be here long after you retire. And I make sense. I make credible opinion. But you don't. That is the problem with you;, Jimmy you just believe in anything on the Internet that fits your motto at the moment of discovery and when questioned about your same or similar viewpoints, you can't back up your own opinions or statements. You are defensive.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   18:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: buckeroo (#127)

Naw.

I wasn't expecting an apology from you at this stage. Like I said before:

"But since it appears you want to own your lies and suffer the consequences, frankly I would feel relieved if christine decided to ban you, buckeroo."

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   18:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: James Deffenbach, buckeroo (#128)

Buck is one of those people who has no respect for private property

Buckeroo has no respect for Truth.

If a person does not respect Truth, a very basic human value, it stands to reason that other kinds of disrespectful attitudes will be demonstrated.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   18:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: buckeroo (#129)

I make sense. I make credible opinion.

Who ever told you a lie like that? Was it at one of your globaloney warming™ conferences where everyone in attendance was a dingbat?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   18:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: scrapper2 (#131)

Buckeroo has no respect for Truth.

If a person does not respect Truth, a very basic human value, it stands to reason that other kinds of disrespectful attitudes will be demonstrated.

You got it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-01   18:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: scrapper2 (#130)

I wasn't expecting an apology from you at this stage.

Why should I achieve your expectations? Because you believe in some kind of majiick? Why not get to the core of debate? Why not stand up as a man? But no, you chose to rattle the forum mistress based upon some personal grief that is not only unreal but lack of substance.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   18:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: scrapper2 (#131)

Buckeroo has no respect for Truth.

In a sense, you have my personal opinion correctly established. But let me modify your apparent consideration:

Buckeroo has no respect for Truth based upon gullible BS in a chit-chat forum without facts or substantiation of the same or similar truth.

Hope you got it, pal.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   18:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: scrapper2, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#103)

So this is the last time I'm going to tell you this, buck, so pay close attention, please. I do not see any other "issues" as in plural in this thread. The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.

Groundresonance only asked straight forward questions; he continuously prodded the same and never got an answer from thread to thread to thread; it is obvious he seeks some sort of understanding of the comments since he asked to begin with. Now, lets ask a meaningful question that is about all of us here on 4um or any chit-chat channel. We want to know and understand each other's opinions and when queried why are some of us rebuffed? What does SoL have to hide?

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   18:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: wudidiz (#101)

You should knock it off.

Go mutter on a Chemtrail thread. It is too phunney.

"Yes they have been experimenting on us for decades. The Chemtrails are just one aspect." -- Original_Intent, circa 2010-03-14 21:00:46 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   19:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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