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Title: The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Published: Apr 1, 2010
Author: RR
Post Date: 2010-04-01 10:32:18 by Itistoolate
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The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   11:35:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Technically speaking, yes. Congress makes the budget, not the President. Well, at least that's how it was at one time. What the new Rules of Tyranny are, I'm not entirely clear on at this point in time.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   11:38:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   11:47:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sure, no doubt. But he had a Democratic Congress so I suspect veto or not the same things would have went through, only without his tax cuts and such.

Not really defending him per se so much as noting that we often forget who presumably controls (controlled?) the purse strings.

At this point it's academic though. Ancient history. This is the new empire. Quaint concepts like budgets and restraint/responsibilities do not apply.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   12:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   12:16:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

What concerns me about Reagan was his drive to put into hyperdrive the expansion of the military complex mechanism.

Do you remember RR from memory or were you too young and are getting your info from second hand sources?

You see, back during the Great Helmsman's tenure we had this small problem called the CCCP, USSR, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or what RR used to call "The Evil Empire" Remember?

Post Viet Nam, under Carter our military was in shambles. RR changed that and broke the back of the Soviet communists. You sleep at night in a world made pretty safe from nuclear war because of Reagan.

You should be grateful

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-01   12:57:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You sleep at night in a world made pretty safe from nuclear war because of Reagan.

Reagan may have made us "safe" from Soviet communists, but their nukes still exist.

I would feel very much safer if he had disbanded the ATF when the senate came out with this report on the 2nd amendment on his watch. The section near the end entitled "ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT" is particularly interesting.

From that section:

These practices, amply documented in hearings before this Subcommittee, leave little doubt that the Bureau has disregarded rights guaranteed by the constitution and laws of the United States.

It has trampled upon the second amendment by chilling exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by law-abiding citizens.

It has offended the fourth amendment by unreasonably searching and seizing private property.

It has ignored the Fifth Amendment by taking private property without just compensation and by entrapping honest citizens without regard for their right to due process of law.

Who was/is the real threat to America? The soviet government or our own?

I used to think Reagan the greatest president since our very early days, until I read this report some years ago.

Critter  posted on  2010-04-02   7:28:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I would feel very much safer if he had disbanded the ATF

I wouild have too. However between Hinckley's bullet and Alzheimers it wasn't meant to be.

We did get The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA) in 1986,which addressed many of the ATF abuses cited in the 1982 Senate Judiciary Subcommittee report which you linked to.

The FOPA has been the ONLY federal law that has increased gun rights, if you can even call them "rights" at this point. The best part of the law made legal again mail order ammo sales.

Ronald Reagan had the whole Bush, Rockefeller CFR wing of the Republican Party working hard against him, yet prevailed on his will and popularity alone.

The Reagans and Bushs rarely spoke to each other when living in the White House and Nancy Reagan will not speak to the Bushs to this day. RR wasn't perfect, he was only a man, but the best man we've had as President since the Founding Fathers.

He was Honest, He loved his Country, and he served no master other than God.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-02   10:24:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He was Honest, He loved his Country, and he served no master other than God.

Your above statement is a crock of shit. If he was honest as you claim, he would have come clean on the arms for hostages. There are a lot of fools and you are one of them. Ronald Reagan doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same class as the founding fathers. He supported the IRS, the illegal income tax, the private federal reserve banks, the jew fed chairman greenspan and spent,spent,spent. Teddy Roosevelt was closer to what the founding fathers were.

Reagan was a high priced gigolo at best.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-02   10:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Blah, blah...arms for hostages...Iran/Contra

You are a fool....blah, blah, blah.

Yawn

crawl back in your hole.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-02 10:55:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You, too, are an absolute IGNORAMUS, LACUMO...then again, I'll bet you already KNEW that...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-04-02 13:18:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Reagan was a high priced gigolo at best."

And yer a low-rent Obamabot RAT-MORON...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-04-12 09:56:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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