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Title: The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Published: Apr 1, 2010
Author: RR
Post Date: 2010-04-01 10:32:18 by Itistoolate
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The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.

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#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   11:35:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

Technically speaking, yes. Congress makes the budget, not the President. Well, at least that's how it was at one time. What the new Rules of Tyranny are, I'm not entirely clear on at this point in time.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   11:38:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)

in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...

the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood.

but that's okay, because the time for education is over.

all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   11:54:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: groundresonance, Son Of Liberty (#12)

in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...

the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood.

but that's okay, because the time for education is over.

all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.

Where are you going with this, ground?

You are associating very nasty words/imagery with Son Of Liberty that he has never uttered on 4um, at least to my knowledge.

Although I'm not the moderator or owner of this free speech forum, as a poster, I would not like it at all if you did to me what you are doing to Son Of Liberty. You are pushing the envelope on abusing Son of Liberty's free speech by putting words in his mouth, and unattractive ones at that.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   12:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: scrapper2 (#17)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   12:23:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton, groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, scrapper2 (#20)

He's [groundresonance] obviously unlike anyone with any cognizance or brains here.

I disagree. I think groundresonance is looking for some reasonable answer's that should be answered by SoL. I don't understand why SoL (or anyone else whom may be posed with a question) refuses to answer those hard, hitting questions.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   12:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#25) (Edited)

She can ask any question she wants about Israel. She cannot spam posts that accuse me of intentionally advocating shooting people and inciting violent war against the government. I answered her Israel obsession in a couple of posts before I put her on bozo. She didn't like my answer because I did not spew hatred but tried to remain even handed in questions of foreign policy (no entangling alliances with anybody, no foreign aid to anybody, which would necessarily include Israel being shut off from our money and our influence on their behalf).

The reason I don't answer her now, but would anybody else, is that she's clearly mentally unstable and a troll and I've had her on bozo since our first encounter. That she's willing to put a forum at legal risk to obsess about Israel with somebody she knows has her on bozo may caution you to perhaps not be so hasty to offer her up a defense.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   12:41:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)

I don't know if groundresonance is a man or a woman but the questions posed to you were on target over several threads. I remained a lurker waiting for your response(s) .... and you ignored the same.

So, now you have coupled further data confusing me. Above on this thread as you attempted to answer one, here is what you said:

When the government shoots me, as it most likely will, I will have died a good death if the reason for the shooting was that I was not obeying their evil laws.

Aren't you being a little dramatic and presumptuous? You opened Pandora's box with this graphic language which I don't understand as very often you appear to be mature and capable to discuss issues frankly as opposed to being some drama queen.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   12:50:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#29)

I remained a lurker waiting for your response(s) .... and you ignored the same.

I did no such thing and I answered the questions she posed in a calm level headed manner. What I didn't do was launch into an anti-Semitic rant, which she clearly and amateurishly was attempting to get me to do. Sorry, but it's not going to happen, I don't make it a business to hate entire ethnic groups.

Aren't you being a little dramatic and presumptuous?

Not really, no. Since my chosen path now is non-compliance, assuming that I am unable to anticipate their moves at a given point in time, it may well come down to them shooting me. Or not, maybe they'll get the drop on me and I'll simpyl be thrown into jail (where I will immediately start attempts to escape). The "good death" quote that she provided out of context was in regards to *if* that happened. Given the mad dog nature of government on display right now and the ramping up of their hostility for all of us exponentially each day, it's not an unfair assumption to think they may try the "Fewer but better Russian" solution Stalin was so fond of.

You opened Pandora's box with this graphic language which I don't understand as very often you appear to be mature and capable to discuss issues frankly as opposed to being some drama queen.

If I normally discuss things evenhandedly and dispassionately, but occasionally display passion, that doesn't seem to me to be an indication of "drama queen". Drama queens wring their hands about everything all the time. A passionate person does only when the topic is so dear to the heart that he is moved by it. Something of a difference.

Beware the man without a passion in his soul, buck.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   12:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#34) (Edited)

What I didn't do was launch into an anti-Semitic rant, which she clearly and amateurishly was attempting to get me to do.

what's antisemitic about acknowledging israel's and israeli americans' attempts to bulldoze america into another war in the middle east?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01 13:01:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#34)

Addendum: I can see by the uneven thread count that she's still posting. FYI, you're back on bozo groundresonance. I'll leave it to christine to deal with you, if she so chooses.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01 13:04:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)

Beware the man without a passion in his soul, buck.

Hold on there.

Don't you sense that some of your comments are irresponsible? You can't go shooting anything or anyone because you have some deep seated concept that isn't explained.

On several threads, you have made points about some revolution or method to defend yourself against the government. But, there have been no actual targets or direction for those same ideas.

I can't put words into groundresonance's posts, but all the guy is asking for is what is the target; in his opinion, Israel has created this fantastick government in the first place. I have yet to see an inkling of your ideas.... other than "you are out to get them when they come to get you."

Who are "they" anyway? The US government comprised of about 25M employees?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01 13:08:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)

Since my chosen path now is non-compliance, assuming that I am unable to anticipate their moves at a given point in time, it may well come down to them shooting me.

Why do you think anyone is about to shoot you?

Here is what is normal speculation for non-compliance to laws in America, once you are targeted: increased fines and penalties, deprived of property and eventual jail time.

No one is going to shoot you other than some mother-fucker from a street gang that thinks you are a racist or because you have a few bucks to steal because you live in that same neighborhood.

Your rationalization escapes me. I don't understand you.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01 14:41:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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