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Title: The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Published: Apr 1, 2010
Author: RR
Post Date: 2010-04-01 10:32:18 by Itistoolate
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The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.

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#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   11:35:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

Technically speaking, yes. Congress makes the budget, not the President. Well, at least that's how it was at one time. What the new Rules of Tyranny are, I'm not entirely clear on at this point in time.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   11:38:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)

in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...

the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood.

but that's okay, because the time for education is over.

all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   11:54:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: groundresonance, Son Of Liberty (#12)

in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...

the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood.

but that's okay, because the time for education is over.

all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.

Where are you going with this, ground?

You are associating very nasty words/imagery with Son Of Liberty that he has never uttered on 4um, at least to my knowledge.

Although I'm not the moderator or owner of this free speech forum, as a poster, I would not like it at all if you did to me what you are doing to Son Of Liberty. You are pushing the envelope on abusing Son of Liberty's free speech by putting words in his mouth, and unattractive ones at that.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   12:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: scrapper2 (#17) (Edited)

the IRS, not one of those people is doing anything but evil, I don't care how it's justified or framed.

We all gotta go sometime, best to go out with a good death for the right reasons.

The education period is over.

those are sol's words.

are you trying to say that sol is just a blowhard, and has no intention of doing a suicide attack on the IRS?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   12:21:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty (#19)

those are sol's words.

are you trying to say that sol is just a blowhard, and has no intention of doing a suicide attack on the IRS?

1. selectively cutting and pasting another poster's remarks out of context demonstrates cheap and cheesey net etiquette on your part and actually undermines your credibility, if you had any to start with

2. if there's any poster here that seems to show signs of instability or a volatile personality, it's you, what with your 24/7 negative posting fixation with zionists and aipac

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   12:56:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2 (#30) (Edited)

if there's any poster here that seems to show signs of instability or a volatile personality, it's you, what with your 24/7 negative posting fixation with zionists and aipac

oh.

sol refuses to acknowledge israel's part in getting us into these wars.

that is a sign of my instability.

good enough

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   12:58:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, christine (#33) (Edited)

oh.

sol refuses to acknowledge israel's part in getting us into these wars.

that is a sign of my instability.

good enough

a. You could have had the decency to ping SonOfLiberty when you allege he refused to do something.

b. I take offense at your twisting my words from post #30. You seem to have a bad habit of abusing/disrespecting other posters' free speech rights. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I don't appreciate your mis-stating what I said previously.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   13:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: scrapper2 (#39)

I don't appreciate

do you appreciate the fact that israel is trying to drag us into another war?

do you appreciate the fact that sol refuses to acknowledge that fact?

do you appreciate the fact that sol is demonstrating his manliness by hiding behind christine's skirts?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   13:25:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, christine (#41) (Edited)

do you appreciate the fact that israel is trying to drag us into another war?

do you appreciate the fact that sol refuses to acknowledge that fact?

do you appreciate the fact that sol is demonstrating his manliness by hiding behind christine's skirts?

I appreciate the fact that christine has provided a political discussion forum dedicated to free speech rights, that allows all posters, including SonOfLiberty and you and me, the right to post comments to all or none of any thread discussions, to respond to all or none of the posters here.

What I don't appreciate is someone like you haranguing another poster for ignoring you.

What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty.

What I don't appreciate is your twisting the words of other posters, including mine, to bolster your hidden agenda.

What I don't appreciate is a poster like you forcing me to contemplate the idea of using the bozo feature of this forum, something I have never used before based on principle.

Is that enough detail for you regarding what I appreciate and what I don't appreciate?

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   13:38:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: scrapper2, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#44)

What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty.

I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   14:27:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#54)

I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.

Oh my, so sorry to hear about your poor vision, buck. Please let me help you acquire clearer insight.

Why don't you cast your eyes on ground's inflammatory accusations/attempts to impune Son Of Liberty's character in the following posts on this thread alone, I might add:

#5

#12

#16

#19

#22

#28

#37

#41

#42

#43

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   14:44:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: scrapper2 (#59)

Oh my, so sorry to hear about your poor vision, buck.

OK.... I am going to round up the remarcks from several threads that SoL has posted with an obvious flair of being a drama queen. In addition, I shall show ground's questions which are similar to mine although I don't ask those questions in same format.

Give me an hour. I shall be back, pal.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   14:52:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#61)

OK.... I am going to round up the remarcks from several threads that SoL has posted with an obvious flair of being a drama queen. In addition, I shall show ground's questions which are similar to mine although I don't ask those questions in same format.

Give me an hour. I shall be back, pal.

Do what you want with your time, "pal," but just so you know I'm not interested what SOL and ground have said to one another on other threads on other occasions.

The only reason I involved myself in this matter was because of what ground and SLO posted ON THIS THREAD ALONE. What troubled me was how ground tried to impune SLO's character by associating words and images with SLO that SLO did not say on THIS THREAD. In fact, ground subsequently tried to do the same thing to me - twisting my words - after I came to SLO's defense ie. when I cautioned ground about how abusive/disrespectful it is to purposely mis-state what others posters have actually said.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   15:16:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: scrapper2 (#65)

if israeli newspapers can admit to israel's role in these wars, why cant you?

"In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history."

White man’s burden

if a jewish american like jim lobe can admit to israel's role in this mess, why cant you?

"Contrary to appearances, the neoconservatives do not represent a political movement, but a small, exclusive club with incestuous familial and personal connections.

What do William Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Elliot Abrams, and Robert Kagan have in common? Yes, they are all die-hard hawks who have gained control of U.S. foreign policy since the 9/11 attacks. But they are also part of one big neoconservative family — an extended clan of spouses, children, and friends who have known each other for generations.

Neoconservatives are former liberals (which explains the “neo” prefix) who advocate an aggressive unilateralist vision of U.S. global supremacy, which includes a close strategic alliance with Israel."

All in the Neocon Family

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   15:28:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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