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Title: The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Published: Apr 1, 2010
Author: RR
Post Date: 2010-04-01 10:32:18 by Itistoolate
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Comments: 226

The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-01   11:35:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Technically speaking, yes. Congress makes the budget, not the President. Well, at least that's how it was at one time. What the new Rules of Tyranny are, I'm not entirely clear on at this point in time.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   11:38:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...

the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood.

but that's okay, because the time for education is over.

all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   11:54:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...

the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood.

but that's okay, because the time for education is over.

all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.

Where are you going with this, ground?

You are associating very nasty words/imagery with Son Of Liberty that he has never uttered on 4um, at least to my knowledge.

Although I'm not the moderator or owner of this free speech forum, as a poster, I would not like it at all if you did to me what you are doing to Son Of Liberty. You are pushing the envelope on abusing Son of Liberty's free speech by putting words in his mouth, and unattractive ones at that.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   12:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the IRS, not one of those people is doing anything but evil, I don't care how it's justified or framed.

We all gotta go sometime, best to go out with a good death for the right reasons.

The education period is over.

those are sol's words.

are you trying to say that sol is just a blowhard, and has no intention of doing a suicide attack on the IRS?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   12:21:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

those are sol's words.

are you trying to say that sol is just a blowhard, and has no intention of doing a suicide attack on the IRS?

1. selectively cutting and pasting another poster's remarks out of context demonstrates cheap and cheesey net etiquette on your part and actually undermines your credibility, if you had any to start with

2. if there's any poster here that seems to show signs of instability or a volatile personality, it's you, what with your 24/7 negative posting fixation with zionists and aipac

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   12:56:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

if there's any poster here that seems to show signs of instability or a volatile personality, it's you, what with your 24/7 negative posting fixation with zionists and aipac

oh.

sol refuses to acknowledge israel's part in getting us into these wars.

that is a sign of my instability.

good enough

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   12:58:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

oh.

sol refuses to acknowledge israel's part in getting us into these wars.

that is a sign of my instability.

good enough

a. You could have had the decency to ping SonOfLiberty when you allege he refused to do something.

b. I take offense at your twisting my words from post #30. You seem to have a bad habit of abusing/disrespecting other posters' free speech rights. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I don't appreciate your mis-stating what I said previously.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   13:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't appreciate

do you appreciate the fact that israel is trying to drag us into another war?

do you appreciate the fact that sol refuses to acknowledge that fact?

do you appreciate the fact that sol is demonstrating his manliness by hiding behind christine's skirts?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-01   13:25:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

do you appreciate the fact that israel is trying to drag us into another war?

do you appreciate the fact that sol refuses to acknowledge that fact?

do you appreciate the fact that sol is demonstrating his manliness by hiding behind christine's skirts?

I appreciate the fact that christine has provided a political discussion forum dedicated to free speech rights, that allows all posters, including SonOfLiberty and you and me, the right to post comments to all or none of any thread discussions, to respond to all or none of the posters here.

What I don't appreciate is someone like you haranguing another poster for ignoring you.

What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty.

What I don't appreciate is your twisting the words of other posters, including mine, to bolster your hidden agenda.

What I don't appreciate is a poster like you forcing me to contemplate the idea of using the bozo feature of this forum, something I have never used before based on principle.

Is that enough detail for you regarding what I appreciate and what I don't appreciate?

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   13:38:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty.

I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   14:27:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.

Oh my, so sorry to hear about your poor vision, buck. Please let me help you acquire clearer insight.

Why don't you cast your eyes on ground's inflammatory accusations/attempts to impune Son Of Liberty's character in the following posts on this thread alone, I might add:

#5

#12

#16

#19

#22

#28

#37

#41

#42

#43

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-01   14:44:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh my, so sorry to hear about your poor vision, buck.

OK.... I am going to round up the remarcks from several threads that SoL has posted with an obvious flair of being a drama queen. In addition, I shall show ground's questions which are similar to mine although I don't ask those questions in same format.

Give me an hour. I shall be back, pal.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   14:52:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I notice that you have once again chosen to ignore ground's character assassination being pointed out to you, as if it wasn't happening.

This is what happens with obsession. Once you find a comrade in arms, the faults of your chosen ally become invisible, so long as the obsession is addressed.

In any event, I've answered to the extent that I felt was appropriate to the question being asked, at the time it was initially asked. Any more of a request for "more answer!" is nothing but trying to lead me by the nose into making blanket insults against entire ethnic groups. I'm not going to do that buck, it is not in my nature to hate ethnic groups, and you know it. If you don't like it, tough shit. Are we clear now?

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   15:09:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I notice that you have once again chosen to ignore ground's character assassination being pointed out to you, as if it wasn't happening.

I enjoy your passion of individual characteristic spirit. Man, I love you to the maximum. But, you go over the deep end, attempting to display the same passion. And when you are questioned with realistic questions about your own concepts and ideas, you don't reply. And when you are questioned, you ignore. I think you owe not ground one iota of response but this whole channel at 4um.

The scenario about moving the bar towards you being SHOT by some government agent is silly. You have to stop it. Now, is a damned good time.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   15:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't owe groundresonance anything. When somebody posts things that could get me arrested on suspicion alone, I owe her nothing but the middle finger.

My take on Israel remains what it always has been. The U.S. should cut all entangling alliances (of which Israel is a major factor and thus should be cut) and cut all foreign aid (to all countries, including Israel). I also don't believe that foreign money should be allowed in American politics, so that would exclude Israel as well as all other nations. It's a full exclusion policy, and it always has been. If that's not enough to satisfy the bellicose one you've aligned yourself with, or you, then you're wanting more than a simple statement of principle, you're wanting slurs against a full ethnic group. Again, ain't gonna happen. This has been said, by me, at least once on this thread and a BAJILLION TIMES on others on this and other forums where you've seen me post. Owe? Please.

The reason she's on bozo has been explained to you, now to ad nauseum. It had nothing to do with her question and everything to do with her word twisting on other threads and her character assassination on this one. I owe no apology for that either.

The scenario about moving the bar towards you being SHOT by some government agent is silly.

Not at all. Or are you stating that there are no civilian shootings for non-compliance in historical totalitarian nations? Silly? Hardly. It's a "what if" scenario, you seem to think I'm drawing an inevitable conclusion. If I say "or not" which I believe I have, it means it's a scenario.

You have to stop it. Now, is a damned good time.

Don't presume to dictate my actions please. I'll do as I will at my own leisure, your approval or permission is not required.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01   15:32:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't owe groundresonance anything. When somebody posts things that could get me arrested on suspicion alone, I owe her nothing but the middle finger.

I never said that, did I?

I said you owe this channel (4um) a response other than ignoring some serious questions by groundresonance. You placed some ideas that are not responsible in nature; I want you to remember that America is (or was) founded upon self reliance without shame or concept about some "boogie-man" out to get you.

You are are alarming to me. You are reactionary towards the turn of events in America and you don't properly explain your position.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-01   15:44:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#87. To: buckeroo (#78)

I said you owe this channel (4um) a response other than ignoring some serious questions by groundresonance.

You're correct, I misread your words and mistook your position, my apologies.

But I don't owe the channel anything either. I've already explained my position on "the questions".

You placed some ideas that are not responsible in nature;

Jesus and Gandhi would disagree, as would Tolstoy and Rand, as well as other advocates of peaceful non-compliance.

I want you to remember that America is (or was) founded upon self reliance without shame or concept about some "boogie-man" out to get you.

Nobody is out to get me now (that I'm aware of). There will be people, rest assured, who will be dispatched once I stop giving them the time of day.

You are are alarming to me.

Good. We should all be alarmed in this day and age. If we're not alarmed, we're asleep.

You are reactionary towards the turn of events in America

No. I've a long history of advocating and attending rallies and demonstrations against this takeover by the Obama (and previously Bush) administration. I've donated plenty of scratch to Ron Paul to help keep him getting the message out. I was even quite politically active at one time. Reactive? No, proactive, but the proactive came to naught.

and you don't properly explain your position.

A position which I believe only you cling to. Everybody else seems to get it, or at least if they don't, they haven't said anything about it.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-01 15:52:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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