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Title: The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Published: Apr 1, 2010
Author: RR
Post Date: 2010-04-01 10:32:18 by Itistoolate
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The year is 2012 - Ronald Reagan assesses our circumstances after almost four years with Barack Obama in the oval office.
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Thanks for posting this. RR was truly the greatest President of our time. I miss him, I miss him dearly. GOD BLESS RONALD REAGAN! & GOD BLESS NANCY REAGAN!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Technically speaking, yes. Congress makes the budget, not the President. Well, at least that's how it was at one time. What the new Rules of Tyranny are, I'm not entirely clear on at this point in time.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
who had the new rules of tyranny so conveniently in place once 9/11 happened?
who are the tyrants you gonna shoot? are they the same people who are trying to drag us into another war?
America's main pro-Israel lobby group is mobilising members of Congress to pressure the White House over its bitter public confrontation with Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister. The move, by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac), appears aimed at exploiting differences in the Obama administration as it decides how to use the crisis around settlement building in Jerusalem to press Israel towards concessions to kickstart peace negotiations. Aipac has persuaded more than three-quarters of the members of the US House of Representatives to sign a letter calling for an end to public criticism of Israel and urging the US to "reinforce" its relationship with the Jewish state
Results 1 - 10 of about 140,000 for zionist ownership american media
Results 1 - 10 of about 277,000 for walt mearsheimer "israel lobby" "foreign policy".
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,600,000 for israel US attack iran
it will all be better just as soon as we acknowledge the fact that the time for education is over. all we have to do is shoot the people our leaders want us to shoot. the last thing we need to know is: why are we shooting people?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody... the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood. but that's okay, because the time for education is over. all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why.
Hi christine, I looked at this thread before logging in and see that "groundresonance" is continually accusing me of advocating illegal acts of violence that could get me arrested, which I have never, ever once advocated (I only advocate peaceful non-compliance, as I'm sure everybody is probably tired of hearing me say over and over). She is also stalking me from thread to thread I notice. While I have her on bozo, I wonder at the wisdom of her posting countless posts on threads accusing me of advocating violence for "authorities" to see. Since I normally don't see her posts to deny them, I suspect that this could potentially cause some serious and real life consequences for me for things I've never done. Thoughts?
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Sure, no doubt. But he had a Democratic Congress so I suspect veto or not the same things would have went through, only without his tax cuts and such. Not really defending him per se so much as noting that we often forget who presumably controls (controlled?) the purse strings. At this point it's academic though. Ancient history. This is the new empire. Quaint concepts like budgets and restraint/responsibilities do not apply.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
We all gotta go sometime, best to go out with a good death for the right reasons. The education period is over. what's your problem? are you now confirming that you're just another zionist blowhard? do you think that americans will be able to kill enough americans that they wont have the time or inclination to figure out where this destruction is coming from? Results 1 - 10 of about 2,600,000 for israel US attack iran
the reasons why will disappear in a sea of blood. but that's okay, because the time for education is over. all we need to do is shoot people, nevermind why. Where are you going with this, ground? You are associating very nasty words/imagery with Son Of Liberty that he has never uttered on 4um, at least to my knowledge. Although I'm not the moderator or owner of this free speech forum, as a poster, I would not like it at all if you did to me what you are doing to Son Of Liberty. You are pushing the envelope on abusing Son of Liberty's free speech by putting words in his mouth, and unattractive ones at that.
I'll cut him the benefit of the doubt and try to believe that his intent wasn't specifically to create hyperinflation. That said, intent and reality are two different things. Dunno. By the time Reagan got into office the machinations of the coup were so far under way that no other outcomes were possible I guess. I doubt he could have done the right thing no matter what he'd chosen to do (nor would any of us). You can't win in a rigged game. If you ask me (and I know you didn't) the best thing he could have done to serve American people would have been to take his wonderful eloquence and penchant for rhetorically upholding individual liberty, and created a movement against Leviathan that did not involve him holding office. Once you buy into the system enough to start holding office, they got you.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
We all gotta go sometime, best to go out with a good death for the right reasons. The education period is over. those are sol's words. are you trying to say that sol is just a blowhard, and has no intention of doing a suicide attack on the IRS?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
so israel does not want america to attack iran? is that what we're supposed to think? the price of oil, today, went up to over $84 a barrel. where would the price of oil go if we attacked iran? ...or is an attack on iran a good thing, seeing as how it will maximize looting opportunities as america dies?
if we shoot enough of each other, as per orders from our fearless leader, the heroic son of liberty, maybe we wont notice where this push to more war is coming from. is that the theory?
Which is quite true. And it is our duty to resist evil. The way to resist evil is to not comply with it. One never initiates violence. When the government shoots me, as it most likely will, I will have died a good death if the reason for the shooting was that I was not obeying their evil laws. At no point is what you're quoting any indication that I'm stating that we should start shooting people. And it is. Everybody knows what is going on now. Everybody. I notice you don't cite links so people think this was one post. You abandon context in order to commit the act of libel. You have now been corrected in front of everybody on the internet. Even if your previous libelous posts were accidental (and I do not believe that they were, you are unstable and hoping to smear and libel somebody for not wanting to speak with you), future ones will not be so. You remind me of somebody on another forum, very much so. I suspect you're stalking me from forum to forum now. Could be wrong, but it has occurred to me.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
While I have her on bozo, I wonder at the wisdom of her posting countless posts on threads accusing me of advocating violence for "authorities" to see. Since I normally don't see her posts to deny them, I suspect that this could potentially cause some serious and real life consequences for me for things I've never done. Thoughts? the heroic and manly son of liberty cant defend himself so he whines...
I disagree. I think groundresonance is looking for some reasonable answer's that should be answered by SoL. I don't understand why SoL (or anyone else whom may be posed with a question) refuses to answer those hard, hitting questions.
Everybody knows what is going on now. Everybody yup. everybody knows that israel is terminally desperate, and wants to drag america into another war in the middle east.
She can ask any question she wants about Israel. She cannot spam posts that accuse me of intentionally advocating shooting people and inciting violent war against the government. I answered her Israel obsession in a couple of posts before I put her on bozo. She didn't like my answer because I did not spew hatred but tried to remain even handed in questions of foreign policy (no entangling alliances with anybody, no foreign aid to anybody, which would necessarily include Israel being shut off from our money and our influence on their behalf). The reason I don't answer her now, but would anybody else, is that she's clearly mentally unstable and a troll and I've had her on bozo since our first encounter. That she's willing to put a forum at legal risk to obsess about Israel with somebody she knows has her on bozo may caution you to perhaps not be so hasty to offer her up a defense.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
sol refuses to acknowledge that israel is trying to drag america into war with iran. he has no defense for himself other than asking for protection from the forum administrators. this is heroic and manly behavior, and will inspire countless numbers of americans to kill each other to provide a distraction from israel's and israeli americans' role in starting these wars. good deal.
I don't know if groundresonance is a man or a woman but the questions posed to you were on target over several threads. I remained a lurker waiting for your response(s) .... and you ignored the same. So, now you have coupled further data confusing me. Above on this thread as you attempted to answer one, here is what you said: Aren't you being a little dramatic and presumptuous? You opened Pandora's box with this graphic language which I don't understand as very often you appear to be mature and capable to discuss issues frankly as opposed to being some drama queen.
are you trying to say that sol is just a blowhard, and has no intention of doing a suicide attack on the IRS? 1. selectively cutting and pasting another poster's remarks out of context demonstrates cheap and cheesey net etiquette on your part and actually undermines your credibility, if you had any to start with 2. if there's any poster here that seems to show signs of instability or a volatile personality, it's you, what with your 24/7 negative posting fixation with zionists and aipac
Do you remember RR from memory or were you too young and are getting your info from second hand sources? You see, back during the Great Helmsman's tenure we had this small problem called the CCCP, USSR, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or what RR used to call "The Evil Empire" Remember? Post Viet Nam, under Carter our military was in shambles. RR changed that and broke the back of the Soviet communists. You sleep at night in a world made pretty safe from nuclear war because of Reagan. You should be grateful
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
oh. sol refuses to acknowledge israel's part in getting us into these wars. that is a sign of my instability. good enough
I did no such thing and I answered the questions she posed in a calm level headed manner. What I didn't do was launch into an anti-Semitic rant, which she clearly and amateurishly was attempting to get me to do. Sorry, but it's not going to happen, I don't make it a business to hate entire ethnic groups. Not really, no. Since my chosen path now is non-compliance, assuming that I am unable to anticipate their moves at a given point in time, it may well come down to them shooting me. Or not, maybe they'll get the drop on me and I'll simpyl be thrown into jail (where I will immediately start attempts to escape). The "good death" quote that she provided out of context was in regards to *if* that happened. Given the mad dog nature of government on display right now and the ramping up of their hostility for all of us exponentially each day, it's not an unfair assumption to think they may try the "Fewer but better Russian" solution Stalin was so fond of. If I normally discuss things evenhandedly and dispassionately, but occasionally display passion, that doesn't seem to me to be an indication of "drama queen". Drama queens wring their hands about everything all the time. A passionate person does only when the topic is so dear to the heart that he is moved by it. Something of a difference. Beware the man without a passion in his soul, buck.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
what's antisemitic about acknowledging israel's and israeli americans' attempts to bulldoze america into another war in the middle east?
Addendum: I can see by the uneven thread count that she's still posting. FYI, you're back on bozo groundresonance. I'll leave it to christine to deal with you, if she so chooses.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
there are over two and a half million returns on a google search of israel US attack iran... you cant acknowledge that, so you have to hide behind christine's skirts. what a man!
Hold on there. Don't you sense that some of your comments are irresponsible? You can't go shooting anything or anyone because you have some deep seated concept that isn't explained. On several threads, you have made points about some revolution or method to defend yourself against the government. But, there have been no actual targets or direction for those same ideas. I can't put words into groundresonance's posts, but all the guy is asking for is what is the target; in his opinion, Israel has created this fantastick government in the first place. I have yet to see an inkling of your ideas.... other than "you are out to get them when they come to get you." Who are "they" anyway? The US government comprised of about 25M employees?
sol refuses to acknowledge israel's part in getting us into these wars. that is a sign of my instability. good enough a. You could have had the decency to ping SonOfLiberty when you allege he refused to do something. b. I take offense at your twisting my words from post #30. You seem to have a bad habit of abusing/disrespecting other posters' free speech rights. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I don't appreciate your mis-stating what I said previously.
That's right, you can't. Which is why I only advocate peaceful non-compliance, and that's always been the only thing I've advocated. I've stated that we need to start disobeying their unconstitutional laws and urging others to do so. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure there have. If you disobey an unconstitutional law, you are necessarily targetting that law and its enforcement mechanism. If I disobey a jaywalking law, who is the "target" or "direction"? This is basic logic buck. You're certainly trying. Instead of putting words into her mouth however, how about noticing that she's falsely claiming I'm advocating things that would get me arrested immediately on violence concerns alone? You seem to be quite selective in your reading. You've had it explained to you ad nauseum at this point, especially if you've been lurking, and if you see "you are out to get them when they come for you" then you're not reading closely enough. In any event, my complaint about her need to commit some pretty dangerous libel is the issue at this point. If you want an Israel obsession thread, you should start a new topic on a new thread.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
do you appreciate the fact that israel is trying to drag us into another war? do you appreciate the fact that sol refuses to acknowledge that fact? do you appreciate the fact that sol is demonstrating his manliness by hiding behind christine's skirts?
if you're attemping to stir up trouble to distract from israel's part in this fiasco, maybe, if you got the right connections, you've got a certain amount of immunity.
wouldnt be the first time, would it, that the most radical member of a terrorist group turns out to be an employee of the government...
do you appreciate the fact that sol refuses to acknowledge that fact? do you appreciate the fact that sol is demonstrating his manliness by hiding behind christine's skirts? I appreciate the fact that christine has provided a political discussion forum dedicated to free speech rights, that allows all posters, including SonOfLiberty and you and me, the right to post comments to all or none of any thread discussions, to respond to all or none of the posters here. What I don't appreciate is someone like you haranguing another poster for ignoring you. What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty. What I don't appreciate is your twisting the words of other posters, including mine, to bolster your hidden agenda. What I don't appreciate is a poster like you forcing me to contemplate the idea of using the bozo feature of this forum, something I have never used before based on principle. Is that enough detail for you regarding what I appreciate and what I don't appreciate?
are you willling to admit that israel is trying to drag us into another war? are you willing to admit that sol is unwilling to acknowledge that fact? are you willing to admit that sol, in the face of overwhelming evidence of israel's efforts to expand the wars, must appeal to the site administration for protection, because he cant defend himself?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
are you willing to admit that sol is unwilling to acknowledge that fact? are you willing to admit that sol, in the face of overwhelming evidence of israel's efforts to expand the wars, must appeal to the site administration for protection, because he cant defend himself? You're such babbling, out-of-control, irrational gnat, that you've almost convinced me to put a sizable check donation in the mail to AIPAC, because whatever political position you stand for, your nuttiness has made me realize that the only sane thing to do is to position myself with the opposing side.
so... you cant admit to israel pushing for more wars. the next most logical thing to do is ad hominem attacks. good enough
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
That has to be the most uniquely funny retort I've ever seen handed to a troll on the forum. :) Well done!
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
yup... very well done. in fact, it's so well done that we can almost overlook the fact that there 's no there there. it's just like oakland. meanwhile, israel wants us to attack iran.
LOL!
I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.
That's because she's been put back on bozo. If you were actually reading my full posts, you'd know that. And if you were reading her posts with something approaching an objective eye instead of with personal bias, you'd note that she's constantly claiming that I'm advocating violent actions against very dangerous people, which I clearly am not and have never done. If you're aiming to join her on the bozo list, then that's your call. You should have enough integrity to not commit lies of omission just because you have a pet topic that some loon is screeching about in-between large tracts of her own bellicose libel.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
this is probably a fairly constructive conversation... we're beginning to choose up sides, i guess... sol and his manly army of zionists can shoot anyone who wants to educate americans and defend america from israel, and the rest of us can continue our attempts to educate americans about israel's intent to expand the wars. seems to me that something drastic has to happen pretty soon, or knowledge of israel's role in these wars is gonna get out of control. i guess that accounts for sol's desperation.
Why do you think anyone is about to shoot you? Here is what is normal speculation for non-compliance to laws in America, once you are targeted: increased fines and penalties, deprived of property and eventual jail time. No one is going to shoot you other than some mother-fucker from a street gang that thinks you are a racist or because you have a few bucks to steal because you live in that same neighborhood. Your rationalization escapes me. I don't understand you.
Oh my, so sorry to hear about your poor vision, buck. Please let me help you acquire clearer insight. Why don't you cast your eyes on ground's inflammatory accusations/attempts to impune Son Of Liberty's character in the following posts on this thread alone, I might add: #5 #12 #16 #19 #22 #28 #37 #41 #42 #43
maybe sol would have a better chance of redeeming his character if he'd own up to the facts.
OK.... I am going to round up the remarcks from several threads that SoL has posted with an obvious flair of being a drama queen. In addition, I shall show ground's questions which are similar to mine although I don't ask those questions in same format. Give me an hour. I shall be back, pal.
That's because you haven't truly read my posts with an eye towards understanding I suspect. Non compliance doesn't mean just throwing away the forms, and I've went over what my intents are countless times. I'm not going to belabor this, you're the only one I know of who "doesn't understand" what I'm saying, besides the rather disturbed person you've chosen to tether your boat to on this thread.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I notice that you have once again chosen to ignore ground's character assassination being pointed out to you, as if it wasn't happening. This is what happens with obsession. Once you find a comrade in arms, the faults of your chosen ally become invisible, so long as the obsession is addressed. In any event, I've answered to the extent that I felt was appropriate to the question being asked, at the time it was initially asked. Any more of a request for "more answer!" is nothing but trying to lead me by the nose into making blanket insults against entire ethnic groups. I'm not going to do that buck, it is not in my nature to hate ethnic groups, and you know it. If you don't like it, tough shit. Are we clear now?
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
any rational american will be disturbed when they find out why we're in these wars in the middle east. you, on the other hand, are convinced that you can create your own version of reality by denying israel's influence. so, you've got to do your best to obscure israel's role in this catastrophe. you're failing.
Give me an hour. I shall be back, pal. Do what you want with your time, "pal," but just so you know I'm not interested what SOL and ground have said to one another on other threads on other occasions. The only reason I involved myself in this matter was because of what ground and SLO posted ON THIS THREAD ALONE. What troubled me was how ground tried to impune SLO's character by associating words and images with SLO that SLO did not say on THIS THREAD. In fact, ground subsequently tried to do the same thing to me - twisting my words - after I came to SLO's defense ie. when I cautioned ground about how abusive/disrespectful it is to purposely mis-state what others posters have actually said.
and neither of you can admit to israel's role in this fiasco. why is that?
I enjoy your passion of individual characteristic spirit. Man, I love you to the maximum. But, you go over the deep end, attempting to display the same passion. And when you are questioned with realistic questions about your own concepts and ideas, you don't reply. And when you are questioned, you ignore. I think you owe not ground one iota of response but this whole channel at 4um. The scenario about moving the bar towards you being SHOT by some government agent is silly. You have to stop it. Now, is a damned good time.
Then, as a publick admission: you don't care about the issues being brought forward on this thread.
if israeli newspapers can admit to israel's role in these wars, why cant you? if a jewish american like jim lobe can admit to israel's role in this mess, why cant you? What do William Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Elliot Abrams, and Robert Kagan have in common? Yes, they are all die-hard hawks who have gained control of U.S. foreign policy since the 9/11 attacks. But they are also part of one big neoconservative family — an extended clan of spouses, children, and friends who have known each other for generations. Neoconservatives are former liberals (which explains the “neo” prefix) who advocate an aggressive unilateralist vision of U.S. global supremacy, which includes a close strategic alliance with Israel."
While I have her on bozo, I wonder at the wisdom of her posting countless posts on threads accusing me of advocating violence for "authorities" to see. Since I normally don't see her posts to deny them, I suspect that this could potentially cause some serious and real life consequences for me for things I've never done. groundresonance is a good one for the clown filter. It was designed for folks like that. Been on mine a long time and I don't figure I have missed a thing. I wouldn't worry much about him/her accusing me of anything if I were you. Cops come and take one look at that blithering blatherskite and would probably haul him/her off to the dungeon.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. yup. that'd be the solution to all your problems, wouldnt it? you guys are great at mouthing platitudes, but you're piss-poor when it comes to living up to them
I don't owe groundresonance anything. When somebody posts things that could get me arrested on suspicion alone, I owe her nothing but the middle finger. My take on Israel remains what it always has been. The U.S. should cut all entangling alliances (of which Israel is a major factor and thus should be cut) and cut all foreign aid (to all countries, including Israel). I also don't believe that foreign money should be allowed in American politics, so that would exclude Israel as well as all other nations. It's a full exclusion policy, and it always has been. If that's not enough to satisfy the bellicose one you've aligned yourself with, or you, then you're wanting more than a simple statement of principle, you're wanting slurs against a full ethnic group. Again, ain't gonna happen. This has been said, by me, at least once on this thread and a BAJILLION TIMES on others on this and other forums where you've seen me post. Owe? Please. The reason she's on bozo has been explained to you, now to ad nauseum. It had nothing to do with her question and everything to do with her word twisting on other threads and her character assassination on this one. I owe no apology for that either. Not at all. Or are you stating that there are no civilian shootings for non-compliance in historical totalitarian nations? Silly? Hardly. It's a "what if" scenario, you seem to think I'm drawing an inevitable conclusion. If I say "or not" which I believe I have, it means it's a scenario. Don't presume to dictate my actions please. I'll do as I will at my own leisure, your approval or permission is not required.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
You don't even know what you are talking about, Willis. Never a creative idea from yourself permitting some sort of personal dignity.
why is that? Because I can properly identify rational debate about Israel, and you are irrational, and I have zero interest in being engaged in a discussion with you and subsequently associated with your nutty outlook on the matter. Capiche? P.S. As I recall SOL has already given his reason for ignoring your tedious questions about Israel earlier on this thread, which you have, for unknown reasons, chosen to ignore.
if i'm irrational, so is the israeli newspaper, haaret z... and so is the jewish american writer, jim lobe. so you guys are reduced to namecalling, because you have no other ammo. too bad. you're losing.
What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty. What I don't appreciate is your twisting the words of other posters, including mine, to bolster your hidden agenda. What I don't appreciate is a poster like you forcing me to contemplate the idea of using the bozo feature of this forum, something I have never used before based on principle. Is that enough detail for you regarding what I appreciate and what I don't appreciate? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You don't see a lot of things, buck. Doesn't mean they aren't there (and some of the things you do see when you are riding with John Barleycorn aren't there either).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I never said that, did I? I said you owe this channel (4um) a response other than ignoring some serious questions by groundresonance. You placed some ideas that are not responsible in nature; I want you to remember that America is (or was) founded upon self reliance without shame or concept about some "boogie-man" out to get you. You are are alarming to me. You are reactionary towards the turn of events in America and you don't properly explain your position.
huh! what a miracle. the next thing you know, sol is gonna admit that the israel lobbly controls congress. he might even get around to admitting that zionists control the american media. he might even admit to the fact that israel is running american foreign policy. he might even admit to the likelihood of israel's participation in 9/11. israel must have had a motive to stage 9/11, or bibi, dumb ox that he is, wouldnt have said that 9/11 was a good deal. and what were those mossad guys dancing about as they filmed the WTC on 9/11?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Son Of Liberty doesn't owe you, your comrade groundresonance, or anyone on this forum a d@mned thing as far as I know. SOL is too nice a guy to say it to you I guess but a lot of people would have told you and your comrade both, and a long time before now, to stick it up your @$$.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. can we assume that the source of your dissatisfaction has something to do with israel's control of america?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Never a creative idea from yourself permitting some sort of personal dignity. Sure. Have another drink and call your comrade and cry about how SOL is being mean to you and him/her/whatever it is.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Nice guys finish last.
pretty amazing how you guys dont seem to realize that your namecalling is evidence that you're out of ammo.
You're correct, I misread your words and mistook your position, my apologies. But I don't owe the channel anything either. I've already explained my position on "the questions". Jesus and Gandhi would disagree, as would Tolstoy and Rand, as well as other advocates of peaceful non-compliance. Nobody is out to get me now (that I'm aware of). There will be people, rest assured, who will be dispatched once I stop giving them the time of day. Good. We should all be alarmed in this day and age. If we're not alarmed, we're asleep. No. I've a long history of advocating and attending rallies and demonstrations against this takeover by the Obama (and previously Bush) administration. I've donated plenty of scratch to Ron Paul to help keep him getting the message out. I was even quite politically active at one time. Reactive? No, proactive, but the proactive came to naught. A position which I believe only you cling to. Everybody else seems to get it, or at least if they don't, they haven't said anything about it.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
We have a winner! Thank you kindly. I just wouldn't want to see anyone get much upset about what that loon "thinks." It isn't worth losing one minute of sleep over.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. :) Thanks for the contributions on the thread. Strange day eh?
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
do you think that readers of this forum are too dumb to figure out how desperate and bankrupt you are?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Sol is clever, similar to yourself. Never answering a direct question upon the forum ... nope, nothing but passion from a high chair whining and never a serious perspective. But you fine folks believe! It is too cool to watch you never create an answer about the state of the nation (or the world) other than you BELIEVE!
You're welcome. Yeah, it has been rather strange. I look for groundresonance to borrow a couple of brain cells (to complement the two it already has) and buck to get on the wagon and stay there. It is April Fool's Day, you know.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. are you alarmed about israel's control of american politics, and israel's push towards expanding the wars?
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. what exactly is it that you're so heroically and manfully resisting?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
are you heroically and manfully resisting the provisions of the patriot act, that was written by an israeli america radical who became the head of the DHS?
You blew your brief moment with me. Groundresonance was clear all along. How come you don't honour a few questions?
I am confident that you think you just got an atta-boy.
You two mentally challenged twerps are annoying when you're not comical. I, being one of those who don't have you on bozo, have noticed your antics. You should knock it off.
why cant you guys come up with valid arguments? why are you reduced to namecalling?
buckeroo: Then, as a publick admission: you don't care about the issues being brought forward on this thread. Fyi, buckeroo, whenever I want to make any "publick" admission, I am quite familiar with using a computer keyboard and the post function at 4um. I don't need any help from you regarding what I want to express. Focus, buck, please. As I noted to you earlier, there is ONLY ONE ISSUE under discussion from my point of view. That issue is ground's disrespectful/abuse of SLO's free speech rights on this thread wherein ground impuned SLO's character with inflammatory allegations and malicious mis-statements of what SLO actually stated ON THIS THREAD. Right from the start of this thread, for no reason, ground made several rude, and provocative statements to and about SLO. It was quite bizarre and that's when I involved myself. I have not paid much attention to comments by ground or SLO on other threads and as I told you, I don't have any interest in what might be an attempt on your part to obscure ground's objectionable net behavior here and now ON THIS THREAD alone by posting cut and paste, out of context comments by the 2 of them from other threads. So this is the last time I'm going to tell you this, buck, so pay close attention, please. I do not see any other "issues" as in plural in this thread. The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights. If you see other issues, go for it. Maybe you'll get lucky and you will engage another poster, besides ground, that is. But that other poster won't be me, that's for sure.
sol has posted exactly what he wanted to post. too bad sol and the rest of you zionists have such a flagrant disregard for the truth when it comes to israel's control of american media, foreign policy, and politics. too bad you so flagrantly disregard israel's role in trying to expand the wars.
sol tries to set himself up as some heroic resistance leader, a latterday che... he's real good at complaining, he's real good at flowery speeches... sound and fury, signifying nothing. but when it comes down to the truth of what's gone haywire, sol cant bring himself to face the facts. why is that?
Wrong. None were in admission. You created further problems believing in further tooth-faeries.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Let's put an end to this namby-pamby horseshit, shall we, it's cluttering up the comments grid! Which post? Given the time of day, he probably doesn't even know. Of course that could be true any time of the day.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. So now you're calling me a Zionist? This latest allegation just takes my breath away. Oh my, now tears are running down my cheeks as I try to type. I don't know what more I can add other than wow, just wow, you're a serious out-of-control, irrational, nutty babbling gnat of a poster.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
You seem to be confident about a great many things, including that bs about global warming. Most people have already figured that one out though, it was just a scam to make a few efs like Al Gore rich. It may even dawn on you someday.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
This thread is simply far too hilarious! Yes, it's turned into quite a spectacular train wreck and though I know I should avert my eyes and drive on by, I can't resist stopping for a closer view, so to speak.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
But your support of SoL is everlasting, 'eh? Sol wants to kick ass on a government he/she can't understand. And you are right there behind him.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. More plagiarism ..... what else do you do when given an opportunity ... suck up bandwidth?
And there you are, buck, making totally false, malicious and rather dangerous allegations about me. And here I am reporting you to christine for abusing my free speech rights and violating her forum's rules of conduct.
Good job. It won't be the last time I was banned *ANYWHERE* under the Sun with or without your commitment.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Anyone ever tell you to E.S.A.D., buck?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Only, clown like, to come back under a new name.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The USSR had thermonuclear tipped ICBMs both land based and on subs pointed at us. The Warsaw Pact had the largest concentration of tanks in the history of modern warfare pointed at western Europe. Cuba had (and still has) tactical nukes pointed at south Florida and Nikita Khrushchev said "We will bury you". You call that a minor threat? Nonsense, Eric. Consider yourself placed on double secret probation until you burden yourself with the facts. WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
A simple apology for blatantly mis-reprepresenting my views and a voluntary deletion of your falsehoods about me might have gone a long way to convincing me of your sincere regret for your outrageous conduct and I would have considered withdrawing my complaint to christine. But since it appears you want to own your lies and suffer the consequences, frankly I would feel relieved if christine decided to ban you, buckeroo. It's not fair to me or to other posters to have to worry about an unprincipled loose cannon like you, who shows no regret whatsoever for posting slanderous allegations about them anytime he pleases.
Naw.
He's been banned from this board before--and probably just about every board he has ever posted on--but it does no good. Buck is one of those people who has no respect for private property, just changes screen names and comes back posting the same bs. He is like happy fun ball/squirrel nuts/fifty screen names in that regard.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I was here before you, Jimmy ... and I will be here long after you retire. And I make sense. I make credible opinion. But you don't. That is the problem with you;, Jimmy you just believe in anything on the Internet that fits your motto at the moment of discovery and when questioned about your same or similar viewpoints, you can't back up your own opinions or statements. You are defensive.
I wasn't expecting an apology from you at this stage. Like I said before: "But since it appears you want to own your lies and suffer the consequences, frankly I would feel relieved if christine decided to ban you, buckeroo."
Buckeroo has no respect for Truth. If a person does not respect Truth, a very basic human value, it stands to reason that other kinds of disrespectful attitudes will be demonstrated.
Who ever told you a lie like that? Was it at one of your globaloney warming™ conferences where everyone in attendance was a dingbat?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. If a person does not respect Truth, a very basic human value, it stands to reason that other kinds of disrespectful attitudes will be demonstrated. You got it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Why should I achieve your expectations? Because you believe in some kind of majiick? Why not get to the core of debate? Why not stand up as a man? But no, you chose to rattle the forum mistress based upon some personal grief that is not only unreal but lack of substance.
In a sense, you have my personal opinion correctly established. But let me modify your apparent consideration: Hope you got it, pal.
Groundresonance only asked straight forward questions; he continuously prodded the same and never got an answer from thread to thread to thread; it is obvious he seeks some sort of understanding of the comments since he asked to begin with. Now, lets ask a meaningful question that is about all of us here on 4um or any chit-chat channel. We want to know and understand each other's opinions and when queried why are some of us rebuffed? What does SoL have to hide?
Go mutter on a Chemtrail thread. It is too phunney.
Perhaps you have been living under a rock for the past 9 years. Let me bring you up to speed. We live in uncertain times. By virtue of legislation called the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act, our government has empowered NSA, DHS brown-shirts to scour the Internet looking for any signs of trouble makers, turrerists, whatever suits their whim at the moment. I have zero tolerance for a lying, loose cannon clown like yourself making dangerous, slanderous allegations about me at the best of times, never mind during these very tense times in our nation. Furthermore, you are a long time poster at 4um. You know christine's rules about slander, encroaching on other people's free speech rights. You crossed the line in spades with me. And to add insult to injury, you have showed no regret, nor have you made any effort to make things right. Buy a clue, why don't you. It's your objectionable abusive behavior not mine that has led to this situation. Follow your own advice to me, buck, be a man, take responsibility for the cawcaw you have created for yourself. Got it now, "pal?"
Christine!!! Buck went and made the thread look too fat!
You're gonna get it now, buck.
GOD BLESS RONALD REAGAN! & GOD BLESS NANCY REAGAN! You gotta be kidding me! Ronald Reagan was not much better than the last 4 idiots to sit on the throne. He was up to his eyeballs in the Iran-Contra arms for hostages. When caught red handed and questioned, he said he couldn't remember well over 60 times. God fixed him so he couldn't remember. It's called altzheimers. Then his sweet little wife was bedding down with him before he was divorced from Jane Wyman. She and her voo=doo lady ran things using witchcraft. The only decent thing he did was to occupy the whitehouse for eight years keeping the faggot poppy bush out for those eight years. Otherwise, the shit we have now would have an even stronger stranglehold on us and our country. We haven't had too good a president for four or five generations.
If anyone has been coaching some of the posters about their "passionate" concepts, it is me. Hard to believe that I bring common sense and helpful information into this disjointed world and into this chit-chat channel. You have to understand that many are lQQking at you .... you have to be responsible. Being self responsible was the basic tenet of our nation. Today, getting a pat on the back is meaningless. I have done you no harm; I have performed no dirty tricks but to learn your opinion about the world around us. And, I think others deserve an answer to obvious questions that are ignored. Let me say, we need more folks like yourself to make statements and create the best channel on the planet. But, you can't hide like SoL.... it can't happen.
Hey Chuck, thanks for not disappointing me. You are truly and idiot's, idiot BTW Can I call you at home tonight? Still at (XX4) XX6-XXX9
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I am sure that the wrath of wudidiz is about to descend.
Reagan disappointed you if you are disappointed with his actions. Apparently you can't stand the truth. Don't blame me asshole! Feel free to call me anytime.
Groucho Marx said it best, "That's the silliest thing I've ever heard"
Oh really? Maybe lying gets you a free pass in your personal life, buck, but lying doesn't work with me. Let me refresh your mind about the "harmless" thing you falsely accused me of. Do you believe that gov't brown shirts think happy thoughts when they read allegations re: people wanting to "kick ass on government?" Huh? I have never ever said I had any desire whatsoever to "kick gov't ass". And I don't want anyone to get a false impression of me because you think you can post slander holus bolus without a second thought since in your warped mind slander is not a "dirty trick" and gosh, darn it, slander is "harmless." #115. To: scrapper2, SonOfLiberty (#113) But your support of SoL is everlasting, 'eh? Sol wants to kick ass on a government he/she can't understand. And you are right there behind him. buckeroo posted on 2010-04-01 17:00:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I am not going to to post on this thread or chit-channel any defensive posture that you have alleged. Whether you consider me worthy of your posts or turning me in to the management of this channel is your decision. I want to make a point however. And I hope you don't mind. The world is not yours. The world is about mutual interchange of ideas through a communicative pipe or other processes for reason and deliberation. You and I are both here for the same purpose. But, I will always help a position even if it is not mine. Nothing has occurred that you seem to consider. And whether you consider my claim or not to be the truth, I could care less; although I want to remind you that your posts are important to me and the whole world. We are are here to see your ideas. Everyone of us are here see to YOUR ideas. And maybe you have a few answers that aren't written into some governance.
No, the POTUS drafts and submits the budget and Congress approves (or disapproves, which never happens) it. Reagan was really pro the industrial military complex, pumping up the Cold War, pumping up nuke production to idiotic levels, making Granada a threat. Oh, and Reagan approved the first amnesty, creating a big suck on the welfare system that we continue to pay for to this day.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
it's quite clear to anyone reading your comments on this thread and any others that i've seen you post that you have never threatened or advocated violence against a specific person or target and, in fact, you have advocated no more resistance to tyranny than many of the Founders did.
LOL! Yeah, the understatement of the week (at least). It is not just hard to believe, but having read numerous posts by you I would say it is fair nigh impossible to believe you "bring common sense and helpful information." One does not bring what one does not have.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Don't cavil too much about Granada. The Gipper knew what he was doing, it's the only war we've won since WWII. >(;^{)
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I know the truth about Reagan. He was G-R-E-A-T-! He wasn't some lowlife union puke like you. You paid your bill? They turned the phone back on?
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
PS The Coach thinks you're an asshole too. WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Reagan was public face of General Electric for many years, yet most modern "progressives" can't seem to get enough of corporate broadcasting. I had to quit watching, last time I tuned in I kept expecting to see a lightbulb superimposed over or near olberman's head. Felt vaguely let down... :)
“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft
Gee, call me a crazy Kenyan without papers, but I'd go back to the days of Reagan in a heartbeat. Hell I'd take Jerry Ford (WIP, now!). The current occupant is a Marxist and *anybody* (is Pat Paulsen still alive?) would be an improvement. My opinions are my own but you're welcome to them.
You are just another fucking asshole on the Internet.
Too cool! Another groupie. What do you want, to feel my chest hair?
Cool your jets there, buck. I know you want me but that is one desire that will never be fulfilled. I am straight and don't play that. But maybe you can find someone who is into all that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. See my last post to you before this one. And the answer to your question is no, not even if you had any.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. i told ya so.
Why should anyone see your posts? You never add anything to the debate other than fucking whom you consider a friend in the ass.
I told you before that I don't play that. You will have to find someone else to indulge your homoerotic fantasies.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I am confident that you are MORE than homosexual. It isn't your fault either. You just cling to government giving a thrill without any personal perspective other than love.
You are so freakin' weird even you don't know what you're saying. And I gave up trying to decipher your unintelligible, meaningless drivel and bs a long time ago.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Hunching, huncking burning love, 'eh?
I believe it was W.I.N. (Whip Inflation Now) but I'd take Gerry back too. Can you throw in a leisure suit and some disco? WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Whatever you and your boyfriend do in the privacy of your own home is none of my business.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Strange concept from a self-professed bastardized conservative, have you revisited the punks that make you happy at the happy logs?
I know I will probably be sorry for asking (since you rarely, if ever, make any sense) but wtf is a "self-professed bastardized conservative" and if I am supposed to be one exactly when did I profess it? I have no memory of any such thing. But then I don't even know what you are talking about and doubt very much that you do. To answer the second part of your inane, idiotic question, I haven't been visiting any "punks" and know nothing about any "happy logs." I am just guessing that you may be talking about your queer friends in the Log Cabin Republicans but I have nothing to do with them. But hey, if gay's your way and you keep it just between yourself and your significant other(s), it is none of my business.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The BureaucRATS CAUSED this friggin' mess...we cannot afford to reward incompetent RATS fer being incompetent RATS!! Make taxes to pay fer the lavish lifestyles of the RulingElite VOLUNTARY to WeThePeople...we'll use a check-off if we wanna send a coupla thousand bucks each year to support those who have bankrupted America and demean the folks--calling us "TeaBaggers", no less--who are paying their outta control, sky-rocketing salaries AND RETIREMENT Golden Parachutes!! I'm purty shore we can write this up in Constitutional Amendment Form...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I know your dilemma. None of your posts are your own fault.
Uh huh. And what are you going to tell the old folks about their Social(ist) (In)Security? It doesn't matter that there never has been any guarantee that anyone would ever see a dime out of it but that is not the point. The point is that they paid in to it based on what they believed was a promise. The fact that they were lied to only means they were conned, not just by the politicians but their useful lackeys in the msm. Even if someone explained all that to them they will still not like it a bit when someone (anyone) starts talking about taking away their bennies.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Another nonsensical, bs post from buck. But then since that is all you have I guess that is all you can post.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. But of course, you reflect your personal image in a mirror as you enjoy your own reflection. And never a concept or creative idea.
lol.........
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I hear ya, Dak. I'm feeling vaguely let down vicariously now. : P
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I have a creative idea for you, one which might prove a novel concept for you. STFU and sober up! Try it, you might like it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ronald Reagan was responsible for the deaths of 241 Marines in Beirut Lebanon. 36 hours later he was invading Granada to get the story out of the headlines. Iran/Contra, death squads in El Salvador, October Surprise and after all that, the man can't recall.
Whatever you and your boyfriend do in the privacy of your own home is none of my business. Buck is gay? Figures.
I'm just kidding, buck. I know you're not gay. But if you were and I was too, I'd grab you by the hair, bend you over and...
Within 30 years time, we went from being the world's only superpower, to being the Super Beggar. All at the hands of traitors. We are exactly where we are, because of the outright treason that has taken place. I miss Ronald Reagan. I miss being optimistic. I miss not being afraid for the future of my children. I miss freedom, and that is something none of us should forget is that we were more free under Reagan during the cold war, than we ever have been since.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
I'm gonna tell old folks that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch...and if yer hard-working enuff and industrious enuff, maybe you can save enuff capital to achieve a point in their lives where they no longer MUST work to earn a living, and they can call themselves "RETIRED"...but if they QUIT WORKING II friggin' early in life, Dem Lazy Bums got no one to blame but themselves when they're eating scraps from Longshanks' Table when they git really, really olde. It's not my friggin' job to pay fer yer parents' Golden Years, JimmieDee...let me worry about my own kin, okay? Personally, I'm NEVER gonna RETIRE...never gonna stop working to achieve my aims and I sure hope to be gittin' wealthier well into my 80's and 90's...so WHY the HE!! should I pay into a F.I.C.A. system I never intend to access?! That is THIEVERY by the Federales and I think I can take this AAALLL the way to the Supreme Court!! R U with me, JimmieDee?! WooHOOO...have a great weekend, kid...MUD BTW...arrrgh.
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Yuck...both of you. Just yuck...now behave.
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, So, Tommy, mi amigo, have WeThePeople now become a Nation of Beggars and Thieves and Traitors?! Hell no, it wasn't WeThePeople HOO screwed the pooch, it's the friggin' Federal Leviathan that PROMISED too many folks that we'd give them FREE STUFF fer doing NOTHING...and we CANNOT afford to keep GROWING the VictimClasses in America!! At some point, the MORONS HOO comprise the Marxist ObamaNation must GIT A FRIGGIN' REAL JOB!! Tommy...there is much to be optomistic about in 2010...finally, the RATS showed America what Commies they really are...LOL!! November's gonna be a bloodbath at the polls fer the Progressives/Lib'rals/Obamabots/RATS!! And I'm psyched up as hell to pitch in however I can...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Bucky's not gay...he's gotta wife. Not that there's anything WROOONG with that...MUD BTW...the Sultan LIVES!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Reagan may have made us "safe" from Soviet communists, but their nukes still exist. I would feel very much safer if he had disbanded the ATF when the senate came out with this report on the 2nd amendment on his watch. The section near the end entitled "ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT" is particularly interesting. From that section: Who was/is the real threat to America? The soviet government or our own? I used to think Reagan the greatest president since our very early days, until I read this report some years ago.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
I wouild have too. However between Hinckley's bullet and Alzheimers it wasn't meant to be. We did get The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA) in 1986,which addressed many of the ATF abuses cited in the 1982 Senate Judiciary Subcommittee report which you linked to. The FOPA has been the ONLY federal law that has increased gun rights, if you can even call them "rights" at this point. The best part of the law made legal again mail order ammo sales. Ronald Reagan had the whole Bush, Rockefeller CFR wing of the Republican Party working hard against him, yet prevailed on his will and popularity alone. The Reagans and Bushs rarely spoke to each other when living in the White House and Nancy Reagan will not speak to the Bushs to this day. RR wasn't perfect, he was only a man, but the best man we've had as President since the Founding Fathers. He was Honest, He loved his Country, and he served no master other than God.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Well, I don't know about that, Calvin Coolidge was one hell of a great president if you ask me. The man steadfastly refused to act against the Constitution in any form (hence "Silent Cal" as his detractors coined).
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Your above statement is a crock of shit. If he was honest as you claim, he would have come clean on the arms for hostages. There are a lot of fools and you are one of them. Ronald Reagan doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same class as the founding fathers. He supported the IRS, the illegal income tax, the private federal reserve banks, the jew fed chairman greenspan and spent,spent,spent. Teddy Roosevelt was closer to what the founding fathers were. Reagan was a high priced gigolo at best.
You are a fool....blah, blah, blah. Yawn crawl back in your hole.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
BWAHAHAHA!! Thanks fer chiming in, MORON!! Sheeesh...they let ANYONE post around here...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, You, too, are an absolute IGNORAMUS, LACUMO...then again, I'll bet you already KNEW that...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, cool :)
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Thanks for reminding me asshole. I guess I shouldn't try and debate you political asswipes. I bet you voted for obanger. With a name like mudboy slim you sound like the toothless pervert in the movie Deliverance. Do you make em' all squeel like a pig? I guess like Willie Dixon, you're a back door man. It probably doesn't matter with you if they are male or female!
Well, I hope that you're right. I was talking to one of my friends who owns a gas station, and he was telling me that he's being squeezed pretty hard lately. He's fed up, and pretty much everyone I've talked to is fed up. The problem is, that those of us who produce are outnumbered 2 to one, by those who are on the system. You have old people, soon to be retirees, government employees, and of course, the welfare crowd all crowing about how much they're not getting paid. You have a government that's out of control with the hand outs, and isn't cultivating REAL jobs in our country. Our nation needs to be producing again, not consuming, and that's the real problem. When we were producing, and producing like no tomorrow, there wasn't a need for welfare, or government benefits doled out to those who aren't interested in working. This country needs a course correction and unfortunately I just don't see it changing in November, because they've got Diebold on their side, along with the lamestream media. If you're right, I'll be glad.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Yeah, you do that. And while they are stoning you they will tell you that they paid into that $#it most, if not all, their working lives and the politicians promised them that it would be there for them when they were old and no longer able to work. I didn't bring that up because I think Social Security is a wonderful thing. I think it is just more socialism and that FDR should have been hung for treason, not just for that but for a lot of the things he did. But you have several generations of people who have paid into that Ponzi scheme and who believe, rightly or wrongly, that they are entitled to receive those payments until their dying day. What needs to happen (imo) is for the American people to be told the truth, the truth being that there is no such thing as a "Social Security Trust Fund" and never has been. That the money they paid in all went into the general fund and was spent and pissed away just like all other tax revenues. And that younger people shouldn't even think that they will ever get anything out of it. For that reason they (the younger people) will no longer have to pay into it and that the government will continue payments to the older people for x number of years. In other words phase it out but don't do so in a way to throw older people under the train. And people also should be told that the only reason it ever worked was because when it first started there were a lot more people paying into it than were taking from it, just like all Ponzi schemes. But as the pool of "new investors" goes down and the number of people receiving the payments go up it fails just like any Ponzi scheme does. It's one of the reasons why they are illegal and why no one in the private sector can run one without risking serious jail time.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
That is true. You made a good point.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Kewl, JimmieDee...that's what makes youy one of WeTheSHEEPLE...veer to the left as you move into the gas-showers, my friend...TRUST Big Brother, you IDIOT!! What a GOOOD Obamabot you make, JimmieDee...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, The Social Security TRUST FUND is specially-designed fer MORONIC, LeftWing IDIOTS!! Congrats, my friend, apparently you made the grade...LOL!! Trust me...if you give me 15% of yer money fer the next 50 years, I'll make you rich when yer OLDE!! LOL...IDIOT!! BWAHAHAHAHA...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, what I actually said, in context--I didn't bring that up because I think Social Security is a wonderful thing. I think it is just more socialism and that FDR should have been hung for treason, not just for that but for a lot of the things he did. WTF is your major malfunction and why is it that you can't understand what I said? You took what I said out of context, just like a msm whore or politician would do. Your reading skills leave much to be desired. Or are you really as stupid as some of the folks on here keep insisting you are? At this point they would seem to be correct.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It appears that you are the IDIOT (for taking stuff out of context and not being able to understand what you read, or try to read). I think Samuel Gray told you this a week or ten days ago (something like that anyway), but if you pulled the $#it in person that you do on this board the only thing that would beat your dying ass to the hospital would be the headlights on the ambulance that was taking you there.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL...JimmieDee, I wasn't callin' YOU an IDIOT, I was just saying that anyopne STOOOPID enuff to believe that Social Security was a good deal fer the taxpayer was a 100% unadulterated MORON...but I'm sure you don't believe that, right?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Bring yer A-game, you punk-assed bitch!! BWAHAHAHAHA!! So, are you and SammieGee homosexual lovers, JimmieDee? It's cute how y'all finish each other's sentences...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I don't have the reading comprehension problems you do. You called me an idiot but exposed yourself as the real idiot for not knowing, or not understanding what you read. And it was in very simple English.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You couldn't even handle my D-game. You know, most people have sense enough to stop digging when they find that the hole they have dug for themselves is over their head. Too bad you don't seem to have that much sense.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Too bad yer a gutless Obamabot wussy, JimmieDee...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Cat got yer tongue, JimmieDee?! Punk-assed FICA-lovin' bee-ahhhtch...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, You will be going on the clown filter but I wanted to tell you before I put you on it that I have been fighting against the government and its various scams (including the "income" tax and Social(ist) (In)Security) for something like 25 years. Even wrote a couple of books about it. But you are an idiot and can't even comprehend simple stuff, either that or willfully take it out of context so you can make a point. But you make very few points and no friends whatsoever doing stuff like that. Adios.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Awesome...all you Obamabot MORONS are too gutless to stand tall and fight, JimmieDee!! Everybody KNOWS it...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, If that's true, then there would be absolutely no reason fer you to become allies with RAT-MORONS like SammieGee, right? But you decided to make this nasty, JimmieDee, and I ain't one to back away from a fight. So, toodle-LOO and adios, JimmieDee. I'll be here if/when you grow up...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, To save America, we gotta Defeat the ObamaNation in November of 2010 and November of 2012...MUD Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Is Obama REALLY this STOOOPID?! Or does he know better, which would make him and his RAT-buddies 100% EEEVIL!! We report, you decide...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Hey, lookee there, I'm just a short 90-minute drive up I-95 from Disarray...LOL!! How 'bout y'all...what State are YOU in?! Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, And yer a low-rent Obamabot RAT-MORON...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Chuckie is a union mam In the words of Zappa: You know I'm pleased to meet ya You always know we They say they got a lot of Just to get I hope the bulge Hi and howdy doody. You know I'm pleased to meet ya Welcome to chicago The work is here; it's a couple a bucks. WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I have always respected blue-collar union folks...most of my kin has utilized collective bargaining to improve their lots in life. However, that said, most all Unionized Guv'ment Workers I have run accross are amongst the LAZIEST, most Good- fer-NOTHING, piss-poor excuses fer productive human beings HOO have ever walked this Earth!! These Union THUG MORONS need to be cut down to size and if these punk-assed RAT- IDIOTS start whining, we will simply ELIMINATE ALL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PENSIONS...Past, Present, and FUTURE!! RATS without Power shall soon become RATS with no money...LOL!! Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Duh, I didn't know that.
By Union, you mean Soviet Union.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
That's it right there, Tommy, the damned ENTITLEMENT Mentality is an advancing cancer. "You have a government that's out of control with the hand outs, and isn't cultivating REAL jobs in our country. Our nation needs to be producing again, not consuming, and that's the real problem. When we were producing, and producing like no tomorrow, there wasn't a need for welfare, or government benefits doled out to those who aren't interested in working." Wha?? Work fer a living? "This country needs a course correction and unfortunately I just don't see it changing in November, because they've got Diebold on their side, along with the lamestream media." It'll change..............eventually. "If you're right, I'll be glad." Be glad becuz I'm most certainly Right... "It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not." Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,But none sacrificed their honor
#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)
#4. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)
Rules of Tyranny
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#13. To: christine (#3)
#14. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#14)
#16. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)
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the IRS, not one of those people is doing anything but evil, I don't care how it's justified or framed.
#17. To: groundresonance, Son Of Liberty (#12)
in the best of all possible son of liberty worlds, americans will shoot enough of each other that they wont need to know why they're shooting anybody...
#18. To: Eric Stratton (#15)
#19. To: scrapper2 (#17)
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the IRS, not one of those people is doing anything but evil, I don't care how it's justified or framed.
#20. To: scrapper2 (#17)
#21. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
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He's obviously unlike anyone with any cognizance or brains here.
#22. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
#23. To: groundresonance, christine (#19)
the IRS, not one of those people is doing anything but evil, I don't care how it's justified or framed.
We all gotta go sometime, best to go out with a good death for the right reasons.
The education period is over.
#24. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)
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I looked at this thread before logging in and see that "groundresonance" is continually accusing me of advocating illegal acts of violence that could get me arrested, which I have never, ever once advocated (I only advocate peaceful non-compliance, as I'm sure everybody is probably tired of hearing me say over and over). She is also stalking me from thread to thread I notice.
#25. To: Eric Stratton, groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, scrapper2 (#20)
He's [groundresonance] obviously unlike anyone with any cognizance or brains here.
#26. To: SonOfLiberty (#23)
The education period is over.
#27. To: buckeroo (#25)
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#28. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)
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#29. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)
When the government shoots me, as it most likely will, I will have died a good death if the reason for the shooting was that I was not obeying their evil laws.
#30. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty (#19)
those are sol's words.
#31. To: Eric Stratton (#15)
What concerns me about Reagan was his drive to put into hyperdrive the expansion of the military complex mechanism.
#32. To: buckeroo (#25)
#33. To: scrapper2 (#30)
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if there's any poster here that seems to show signs of instability or a volatile personality, it's you, what with your 24/7 negative posting fixation with zionists and aipac
#34. To: buckeroo (#29)
I remained a lurker waiting for your response(s) .... and you ignored the same.
Aren't you being a little dramatic and presumptuous?
You opened Pandora's box with this graphic language which I don't understand as very often you appear to be mature and capable to discuss issues frankly as opposed to being some drama queen.
#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)
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What I didn't do was launch into an anti-Semitic rant, which she clearly and amateurishly was attempting to get me to do.
#36. To: christine (#34)
#37. To: SonOfLiberty (#36)
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I'll leave it to christine to deal with you, if she so chooses.
#38. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)
Beware the man without a passion in his soul, buck.
#39. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, christine (#33)
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oh.
#40. To: buckeroo (#38)
You can't go shooting anything or anyone because you have some deep seated concept that isn't explained.
On several threads, you have made points about some revolution
or method to defend yourself against the government. But, there have been no actual targets or direction for those same ideas.
I can't put words into groundresonance's posts, but all the guy is asking for is what is the target;
I have yet to see an inkling of your ideas.... other than "you are out to get them when they come to get you."
#41. To: scrapper2 (#39)
I don't appreciate
#42. To: SonOfLiberty (#40)
I'm advocating things that would get me arrested immediately on violence concerns alone?
#43. To: SonOfLiberty (#40)
#44. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, christine (#41)
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do you appreciate the fact that israel is trying to drag us into another war?
#45. To: scrapper2 (#44)
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Is that enough detail for you regarding what I appreciate and what I don't appreciate?
#46. To: Flintlock (#31)
#47. To: SonOfLiberty (#18)
#48. To: groundresonance, SonOfLiberty, All (#45)
are you willling to admit that israel is trying to drag us into another war?
#49. To: scrapper2 (#48)
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babbling, out-of-control, irrational gnat
#50. To: scrapper2 (#48)
#51. To: scrapper2 (#48)
You're such babbling, out-of-control, irrational gnat, that you've almost convinced me to put a sizable check donation in the mail to AIPAC, because whatever political position you stand for, your nuttiness has made me realize that the only sane thing to do is to position myself with the opposing side.
#52. To: SonOfLiberty (#51)
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Well done!
#53. To: groundresonance (#49)
you cant admit to israel pushing for more wars.
#54. To: scrapper2, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#44)
What I don't appreciate is your character assassination of Son Of Liberty.
#55. To: buckeroo (#54)
#56. To: buckeroo (#54)
#57. To: SonOfLiberty (#55)
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#58. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)
Since my chosen path now is non-compliance, assuming that I am unable to anticipate their moves at a given point in time, it may well come down to them shooting me.
#59. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#54)
I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.
#60. To: scrapper2 (#59)
Son Of Liberty's character
#61. To: scrapper2 (#59)
Oh my, so sorry to hear about your poor vision, buck.
#62. To: buckeroo (#58)
Your rationalization escapes me. I don't understand you.
#63. To: buckeroo, scapper2 (#61)
#64. To: SonOfLiberty (#62)
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rather disturbed
#65. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#61)
OK.... I am going to round up the remarcks from several threads that SoL has posted with an obvious flair of being a drama queen. In addition, I shall show ground's questions which are similar to mine although I don't ask those questions in same format.
#66. To: scrapper2 (#65)
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I came to SLO's defense
#67. To: SonOfLiberty (#63)
I notice that you have once again chosen to ignore ground's character assassination being pointed out to you, as if it wasn't happening.
#68. To: scrapper2 (#65)
Do what you want with your time, "pal," but just so you know I'm not interested what SOL and ground have said to one another on other threads on other occasions.
#69. To: scrapper2 (#65)
"In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history."
"Contrary to appearances, the neoconservatives do not represent a political movement, but a small, exclusive club with incestuous familial and personal connections.
#70. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)
I looked at this thread before logging in and see that "groundresonance" is continually accusing me of advocating illegal acts of violence that could get me arrested, which I have never, ever once advocated (I only advocate peaceful non-compliance, as I'm sure everybody is probably tired of hearing me say over and over). She is also stalking me from thread to thread I notice.
Lord Acton
#71. To: James Deffenbach (#70)
Cops come and take one look at that blithering blatherskite and would probably haul him/her off to the dungeon.
#72. To: buckeroo (#67)
The scenario about moving the bar towards you being SHOT by some government agent is silly.
You have to stop it. Now, is a damned good time.
#73. To: James Deffenbach (#70)
groundresonance is a good one for the clown filter.
#74. To: groundresonance (#66)
and neither of you can admit to israel's role in this fiasco.
#75. To: scrapper2 (#74)
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Because I can properly identify rational debate about Israel, and you are irrational
#76. To: scrapper2, Son Of Liberty (#44)
What I don't appreciate is someone like you haranguing another poster for ignoring you.
Lord Acton
#77. To: buckeroo (#54)
I don't see any "character assassination" ... all I see are ignored questions.
Lord Acton
#78. To: SonOfLiberty (#72)
I don't owe groundresonance anything. When somebody posts things that could get me arrested on suspicion alone, I owe her nothing but the middle finger.
#79. To: SonOfLiberty (#72)
The U.S. should cut all entangling alliances (of which Israel is a major factor and thus should be cut)
#80. To: scrapper2 (#59)
#81. To: buckeroo (#67)
I think you owe not ground one iota of response but this whole channel at 4um.
Lord Acton
#82. To: SonOfLiberty (#72)
#83. To: James Deffenbach, SonOfLiberty, scapper2 (#70)
#84. To: buckeroo, Son Of Liberty (#73)
You don't even know what you are talking about, Willis.
Lord Acton
#85. To: James Deffenbach (#81)
SOL is too nice a guy
#86. To: James Deffenbach (#84)
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call your comrade and cry about how SOL
#87. To: buckeroo (#78)
I said you owe this channel (4um) a response other than ignoring some serious questions by groundresonance.
You placed some ideas that are not responsible in nature;
I want you to remember that America is (or was) founded upon self reliance without shame or concept about some "boogie-man" out to get you.
You are are alarming to me.
You are reactionary towards the turn of events in America
and you don't properly explain your position.
#88. To: Eric Stratton (#83)
Ding ding ding!!!
Lord Acton
#89. To: James Deffenbach (#77)
#90. To: James Deffenbach (#88)
what that loon "thinks"
#91. To: SonOfLiberty, All (#87)
#92. To: James Deffenbach, SonOfLiberty (#84)
#93. To: SonOfLiberty (#89)
Lord Acton
#94. To: SonOfLiberty (#87)
We should all be alarmed in this day and age.
#95. To: buckeroo, Son Of Liberty (#92)
Sol is clever, similar to yourself.
Lord Acton
#96. To: SonOfLiberty (#87)
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#97. To: buckeroo (#92)
#98. To: SonOfLiberty (#87)
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#99. To: SonOfLiberty, groundresonance (#87)
Everybody else seems to get it, or at least if they don't, they haven't said anything about it.
#100. To: James Deffenbach (#95)
#101. To: groundresonance, buckeroo, SonOfLiberty, christine, all (#99)
groundresonance, buckeroo
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#102. To: wudidiz (#101)
mentally challenged twerps
#103. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonOfLiberty (#68)
scrapper: Do what you want with your time, "pal," but just so you know I'm not interested what SOL and ground have said to one another on other threads on other occasions.
#104. To: scrapper2 (#103)
The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.
#105. To: scrapper2 (#103)
#106. To: scrapper2 (#103)
The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.
#107. To: wudidiz (#101)
#108. To: Eric Stratton, buckeroo (#97)
Which question did you want answered bucky?
Lord Acton
#109. To: groundresonance, christine, Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, All (#104)
too bad sol and the rest of you zionists have such a flagrant disregard for the truth when it comes to israel's control of american media, foreign policy, and politics.
#110. To: James Deffenbach (#108)
#111. To: buckeroo (#100)
I am confident that you think you just got an atta-boy.
Lord Acton
#112. To: scrapper2 (#109)
#113. To: Eric Stratton (#112)
ROFLMAO!!
#114. To: scrapper2 (#113)
#115. To: scrapper2, SonOfLiberty (#113)
Yes, it's turned into quite a spectacular train wreck and though I know I should avert my eyes and drive on by, I can't resist stopping for a closer view, so to speak.
#116. To: Eric Stratton (#114)
For all the annoying, aggravating, dumb efs who make a daily effort to harass and aggravate people who haven't bothered you:
Lord Acton
#117. To: James Deffenbach (#116)
#118. To: buckeroo, christine (#115)
But your support of SoL is everlasting, 'eh? Sol wants to kick ass on a government he/she can't understand. And you are right there behind him.
#119. To: scrapper2 (#118)
And here I am reporting you.....
#120. To: James Deffenbach (#116)
#121. To: buckeroo (#117)
More plagiarism ..... what else do you do when given an opportunity ... suck up bandwidth?
Lord Acton
#122. To: buckeroo (#119)
Good job. It won't be the last time I was banned *ANYWHERE* under the Sun with or without your commitment.
Lord Acton
#123. To: Eric Stratton (#120)
Lord Acton
#124. To: Eric Stratton (#46)
In hindsight, the CCCP, USSR, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or what RR used to call "The Evil Empire" threat was also overblown.
They were no more threat to rule the world than Saddam Hussein ever was.
China hated them back then too.
During the cold war the Chinese were still using bugle calls and human wave attacks. They didn't get accurate nukes until Clinton sold them the technology.
#125. To: Flintlock (#124)
#126. To: buckeroo, christine (#119)
Good job. It won't be the last time I was banned *ANYWHERE* under the Sun with or without your commitment.
#127. To: scrapper2 (#126)
A simple apology for blatantly mis-reprepresenting my views and a voluntary deletion of your falsehoods about me might have gone a long way to convincing me of your sincere regret for your outrageous conduct and I would have considered withdrawing my complaint to christine.
#128. To: scrapper2 (#126)
But since it appears you want to own your lies and suffer the consequences, frankly I would feel relieved if christine decided to ban you, buckeroo.
Lord Acton
#129. To: James Deffenbach (#128)
#130. To: buckeroo (#127)
Naw.
#131. To: James Deffenbach, buckeroo (#128)
Buck is one of those people who has no respect for private property
#132. To: buckeroo (#129)
I make sense. I make credible opinion.
Lord Acton
#133. To: scrapper2 (#131)
Buckeroo has no respect for Truth.
Lord Acton
#134. To: scrapper2 (#130)
I wasn't expecting an apology from you at this stage.
#135. To: scrapper2 (#131)
Buckeroo has no respect for Truth.
Buckeroo has no respect for Truth based upon gullible BS in a chit-chat forum without facts or substantiation of the same or similar truth.
#136. To: scrapper2, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#103)
So this is the last time I'm going to tell you this, buck, so pay close attention, please. I do not see any other "issues" as in plural in this thread. The only single issue that prompted my involvement in THIS THREAD is ground's flagrant disregard for SLO's free speech rights.
#137. To: wudidiz (#101)
You should knock it off.
#138. To: ALL (#137)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#139. To: buckeroo (#134)
you chose to rattle the forum mistress based upon some personal grief that is not only unreal but lack of substance.
#140. To: wudidiz (#138)
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#141. To: christine, buckeroo (#140)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#142. To: buckeroo (#140)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#143. To: Flintlock (#1)
Thanks for posting this. RR was truly the greatest President of our time. I miss him, I miss him dearly.
#144. To: scrapper2, groundresonance, SonofLiberty (#139)
I have zero tolerance for a lying, loose cannon clown like yourself making dangerous, slanderous allegations about me at the best of times, never mind during these very tense times in our nation.
#145. To: LACUMO (#143)
He was up to his eyeballs in the Iran-Contra
#146. To: wudidiz (#142)
You're gonna get it now, buck.
#147. To: Flintlock (#145)
Hey Chuck, thanks for not disappointing me.
#148. To: scrapper2 (#109)
So now you're calling me a Zionist?
#149. To: buckeroo, groundresonance, SonofLiberty, christine (#144)
I have done you no harm; I have performed no dirty tricks
#150. To: scrapper2 (#139)
I have zero tolerance for a lying, loose cannon clown like yourself making dangerous, slanderous allegations about me at the best of times, never mind during these very tense times in our nation.
#151. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)
Congress makes the budget, not the President.
#152. To: SonOfLiberty, buckeroo, groundresonance, scrapper2, all (#13)
(Edited)
#153. To: buckeroo (#144)
Hard to believe that I bring common sense and helpful information into this disjointed world and into this chit-chat channel.
Lord Acton
#154. To: abraxas (#151)
making Granada a threat.
Lord Acton
#155. To: LACUMO (#147)
Apparently you can't stand the truth.
Feel free to call me anytime.
#156. To: LACUMO (#147)
#157. To: abraxas (#151)
Reagan was really pro the industrial military complex, pumping up the Cold War, pumping up nuke production to idiotic levels, making Granada a threat. Oh, and Reagan approved the first amnesty, creating a big suck on the welfare system that we continue to pay for to this day.
#158. To: Flintlock (#156)
#159. To: James Deffenbach (#153)
LOL!
#160. To: James Deffenbach (#153)
but having read numerous posts by you
#161. To: buckeroo (#159)
You are just another fucking asshole on the Internet.
Lord Acton
#162. To: buckeroo (#160)
Too cool! Another groupie. What do you want, to feel my chest hair?
Lord Acton
#163. To: christine (#152)
(Edited)
Just wait to see what fun is uncovered in the coming months.
#164. To: James Deffenbach (#162)
See my last post to you before this one.
#165. To: buckeroo (#164)
Why should anyone see your posts? You never add anything to the debate other than fucking whom you consider a friend in the ass.
Lord Acton
#166. To: James Deffenbach (#165)
You will have to find someone else to indulge your homoerotic fantasies.
#167. To: buckeroo (#166)
Lord Acton
#168. To: James Deffenbach (#167)
#169. To: Jethro Tull (#158)
(WIP, now!)
#170. To: buckeroo (#168)
Hunching, huncking burning love, 'eh?
Lord Acton
#171. To: James Deffenbach (#170)
Whatever you and your boyfriend do in the privacy of your own home is none of my business.
#172. To: buckeroo (#171)
Lord Acton
#173. To: James Deffenbach (#172)
ABOLISH ALL FEDERAL PENSIONS (save, of course, the Military!!)...
PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE!!"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#174. To: James Deffenbach (#172)
I have no memory of any such thing.
#175. To: Mudboy Slim (#173)
ABOLISH ALL FEDERAL PENSIONS (save, of course, the Military!!)...
Lord Acton
#176. To: buckeroo (#174)
I know your dilemma. None of your posts are your own fault.
Lord Acton
#177. To: James Deffenbach (#176)
#178. To: James Deffenbach (#154)
it's the only war we've won since WWII. >(;^{)
#179. To: Dakmar (#157)
Felt vaguely let down... :)
#180. To: buckeroo (#177)
But of course, you reflect your personal image in a mirror as you enjoy your own reflection. And never a concept or creative idea.
Lord Acton
#181. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#182. To: James Deffenbach, buckeroo (#170)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#183. To: buckeroo (#182)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#184. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#185. To: James Deffenbach (#175)
"...what are you going to tell the old folks about their Social(ist) (In)Security?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#186. To: wudidiz, buckeroo (#183)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#187. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#184)
"Within 30 years time, we went from being the world's only superpower, to being the Super Beggar."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#188. To: wudidiz (#182)
(Edited)
"Buck is gay? Figures."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#189. To: Flintlock (#31)
You sleep at night in a world made pretty safe from nuclear war because of Reagan.
These practices, amply documented in hearings before this Subcommittee, leave little doubt that the Bureau has disregarded rights guaranteed by the constitution and laws of the United States.
It has trampled upon the second amendment by chilling exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by law-abiding citizens.
It has offended the fourth amendment by unreasonably searching and seizing private property.
It has ignored the Fifth Amendment by taking private property without just compensation and by entrapping honest citizens without regard for their right to due process of law.
Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
#190. To: wudidiz (#183)
#191. To: Critter (#189)
I would feel very much safer if he had disbanded the ATF
#192. To: Flintlock (#191)
#193. To: Flintlock (#191)
He was Honest, He loved his Country, and he served no master other than God.
#194. To: LACUMO (#193)
Blah, blah...arms for hostages...Iran/Contra
#195. To: Rube Goldberg (#181)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#196. To: LACUMO (#193)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#197. To: Rube Goldberg (#181)
death squads in El Salvador,
#198. To: Mudboy Slim (#196)
You, too, are an absolute IGNORAMUS, LACUMO...then again, I'll bet you already KNEW that...MUD
#199. To: Mudboy Slim (#187)
#200. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#199)
#201. To: Mudboy Slim (#185)
I'm gonna tell old folks that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch...
Lord Acton
#202. To: James Deffenbach (#201)
#203. To: Eric Stratton (#202)
Lord Acton
#204. To: James Deffenbach (#201)
"I think Social Security is a wonderful thing."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#205. To: James Deffenbach (#201)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#206. To: Mudboy Slim (#204)
what you claimed I said (by taking it out of context)--"I think Social Security is a wonderful thing."
Lord Acton
#207. To: Mudboy Slim, Samuel Gray (#205)
LOL...IDIOT!! BWAHAHAHAHA...MUD
Lord Acton
#208. To: James Deffenbach (#207)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#209. To: James Deffenbach, SammieGee (#207)
"...if you pulled the $#it in person that you do on this board the only thing that would beat your dying ass to the hospital would be the headlights on the ambulance that was taking you there."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#210. To: Mudboy Slim (#208)
Lord Acton
#211. To: Mudboy Slim (#209)
Bring yer A-game, you punk-assed bitch!!
Lord Acton
#212. To: James Deffenbach (#211)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#213. To: JimmieDee (#208)
"LOL...JimmieDee, I wasn't callin' YOU an IDIOT, I was just saying that anyone STOOOPID enuff to believe that Social Security was a good deal fer the taxpayer was a 100% unadulterated MORON...but I'm sure you don't believe that, right?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#214. To: Mudboy Slim (#213)
Lord Acton
#215. To: James Deffenbach (#214)
"You will be going on the clown filter..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#216. To: James Deffenbach (#214)
"I have been fighting against the government and its various scams (including the "income" tax and Social(ist) (In)Security) for something like 25 years. Even wrote a couple of books about it."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#217. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#199)
(Edited)
Since Pelosi, Reid, and the DemonRATS
Took over Congress in January of 2007!!"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#218. To: All (#217)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#219. To: TommyTheMadArtist, SammieGee, JimmieDee (#199)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#220. To: LACUMO (#193)
"Reagan was a high priced gigolo at best."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#221. To: Mudboy Slim (#220)
I'm a union man
You can call me rudy.
Any of you boys not paid up on your cards?
Been tryin all day to reach ya
The union's here to help everyone of you rock 'n' roll stars.
Rock 'n' roll stars.
Care so much
About the way they
Treat ya.
Reasons every day..
A chance to meet you.
To check and see
No wrong been done
That's one good reason
I carry a gun.
Don't bum you out.
Wanna get a good look?
Let me pull it right out!
Let me pull it right out!
Let me pull it right out!
Let me whip it right out!
I'm a union man
You can call me rudy.
Any of you boys not paid up on your cards?
Been tryin all day to reach ya
The union's here to help everyone of you rock 'n' roll stars.
Hahahaha!
Welcome to l.a.
Welcome to our local here
You'll always hear me say
I'm sure you're glad to pay.
Whip it out, here is your receipt
Now I'll go away, now I'll go away...
Now I'll go away, now I'll go away...
Away-y-y! away-y-y! away-y-y!
#222. To: Flintlock (#221)
(Edited)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#223. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#224. To: ghostdogtxn (#223)
#225. To: Flintlock (#221)
#226. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#199)
Tommy The Mad Artist
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
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