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Title: THE RESTORE AMERICA PLAN SERVES ALL 50 STATE GOVENERS. THEY MUST CONFORM OR BE REMOVED BY FRIDAY
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Published: Apr 2, 2010
Author: TRAP
Post Date: 2010-04-02 10:25:45 by MING THE MERCILESS
Keywords: None
Views: 752
Comments: 67

The Restore America Plan The Restore America Plan is a bold achievable strategy for behind-the-scenes peaceful reconstruction of the de jure institutions of government without controversy, violence or civil war. After consultation with high ranking members of the United States armed forces, the Plan is in the process of assembling the Guardians of the Free Republics and reinhabiting the De jure Grand Juries to:

•Restore and reinhabit the de jure institutions of lawful government. •Terminate illicit corporations posing as legitimate governments, in particular the territorial jurisdiction United States Federal Corporation (corp. ref. 28 U.S.C. 3002) posing as the de jure United States of America. •Terminate all presumed powers of attorney to such corporations. •End the foreclosure nightmare (for borrowing against one’s own credit). •End tax prosecutions for resisting the transfer of private wealth to foreign banking cartels such as I.R.S. (former Puerto Rico Bureau of Taxation). •End street assaults against the sovereign People for failing to exhibit a State-issued confession of subject-class citizenship. •End all prosecutions which lack an injured party. •End admiralty prosecutions for kidnapping and other heinous crimes against mankind as “commercial crimes” against the corporate State under a contrived corporate color-of-law venue (corp. ref. 27 C.F.R. 72.11). •Terminate the intrusion of corporations posing as the state into every aspect of the People’s lives. •End the use of covert contracts such as Form 1040, car registrations, birth certificate applications, and bank signature cards which confess the signer to be a legal fiction subject of the United States Federal Corporation (“U.S. person”) that has waved his/her rights in favor of state-issued privileges. •End the use of deeds which classify the People as “tenants” on their own land, thereby transferring control to incorporated County registrars and tax assessors. •End the perversion of marriage into a commercial system of state-issued privileges through the so-called “marriage license” whereby incorporated “courts” presume the “right” to trespass on families and kidnap children. •End the hijacking of automobile ownership through DMV registrations which covertly exchange the divine rights of travel and ownership for the state-issued “privileges” of “driving” and “title.” •In place of all of the above, substitute sovereign identification, diplomatic immunity and sovereign passports to facilitate safe passage throughout the world free from corporate State molestation and terror. •Restore the People’s money and wealth from the banking institutions, war profiteers, and international loan sharks. •Instantly vest all mortgages, auto loans and personal business loans “issued” by members of the Fed. The state shall hold no paper on, or debts against, the sovereign People, directly or through its agencies and licensed banking institutions. •Instantly end all non-consensual and unlawful taxation including all taxes on the sacred rights of labor and privacy. •Empower and inspire the sovereign People to righteousness through such renewed abundance. •Issue orders to the military and police powers to enforce the Peoples’ divine rights of birth. •Reabsorb all de facto actors into lawful de jure capacity. •End the perverse act of requiring the People to pray to “courts” as is now required under corporate rules and traditions. •Restore the de jure judicial institutions including the district court of the United States and the one supreme Court. •Quietly mirror the strategies of 1933 thereby using their (our) institutions, military and public officials to undo eighty years of subterfuge without provoking alarm, controversy or armed conflict. •Return the military and law enforcement institutions to proper and lawful de jure sovereign authority from the clutches of corporate actors. •Forgive all corporate actors who repent for their State-sponsored crimes against mankind. Remove the recidivists from office. •Do all of the above, and more, peacefully, discreetly, quietly and honorably, behind the scenes, without public proclamations or provocative actions against a general public that is mostly unaware of the hijacking of their free de jure American republics, and their hapless media. [link to http://guardiansofthefreerepublics.com]

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#1. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)

I just heard this on the MSM. Very interesting.

Now the real question is begged: Are these guys actually going to follow through in something approaching an effective manner, or are they engaging in bluster and bravado and empty threats? I suspect the later. We'll see.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-02   10:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)

Related: Capitol Locked Down in Wake of Threats

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christine  posted on  2010-04-02   10:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

This has been in the works for 20years. From what I understand they have the backing of the military. This is not a hoax but is very serious. It is peaceful so don't let the MSM fool you with they're twisting of the facts.

We are the government. Just keep that in mind and it will help you understand.

There is a thread that's been running since Wednesday on this website www.godlikeproducti ons.com/forum1/04/02/10/pg1

I don't want to take anyone away from this website but was hoping to start a

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2010-04-02   10:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#3)

If it's peaceful I'm fully behind this.

That said, I do wonder, how do we know the military is actually behind this? I'm certain that some might be, but all of them?

This could well lead to civil war, unintentionally or not.

Don't get me wrong. Government needs to be clamped down on and shoved back into a little damp cramped cave where it belongs.

This could make for a very interesting weekend. If this pans out as you say, it might be the answer to their end game play. Scary times, but it's our duty as men to face them with resolve, honor and bravery.

Good luck.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-02   10:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

Scary times

Not really.

I'd say they were rather exciting than scary. JMO, and knowing full well that I could die, and so could many of us, if this turns to shit. One way or another, it has to happen. Let's get it over with already.

You're right. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   10:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SonOfLiberty, MING THE MERCILESS, PSUSA, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, ALL (#4)

Here is Margy and Jack Flynn's opinion about this Restore America Plan

Fellow Citizens and Patriots:

Margy and I encourage all of you to send this News-Letter and all News-Letters you receive from us to all of those on your email lists and encourage them to send them out in the same way. There is no charge for this News-Letter, nor is it copy written, so we humbly ask you to spread it as far, deep and wide as possible.

As most of you well know, America is in a very precarious position and has been for some time. It is up to the People, themselves, to take responsibility, on their own, or within small or even large groups, to make the differences and necessary changes which must come about if we are to save ourselves, our nation and our posterity from absolute tyranny and the evil so prevalent in all institutional systems on this earth, within all governments in this country and in most of the world.

Many among you may have been following with interest announcements by the delegates of the CC2009 regarding their Articles of Freedom, as well as the efforts by Sam Kennedy and his associates in the Restore America Plan. While it is true that efforts to restore America to De Jure government and to hold public officers accountable and responsible to the People are sorely needed, we have some reservations about CC2009's efforts and serious reservations about the Restore America Plan.

Drastic changes back to Constitutional government are needed IMMEDIATELY, and the longer the People wait for "someone else" to do their work in this regard and assume their responsibilities, America will get worse by the hour! If you disbelieve this, take a very quick look at the multitude of freedoms that have been stolen from us since the JFK assassination in 1963. Obviously, one can go to the very beginnings of this nation to see the ongoing loss of freedoms, but we want to put this in a more contemporary and relative perspective. The loss of freedoms since the first "Emperor" Bush won the presidency have escalated rapidly to the present day, and the question we have asked many times is what are YOU, personally, doing about this? Not your neighbor, not your brother, not your leader - but what are you doing about this?

Personal responsibility in areas of importance is absolutely necessary if anything valuable and viable is to be accomplished and preserved. Remember, God helps those who help themselves and those who help others. In a like vein, the Constitution helps those who help themselves and those who help others. How many of you could truthfully face your God and say that you have helped yourselves and others to restore freedom and justice to this nation, by and through enforcing the Constitution(s) on reluctant governments? Those of you who have done this deserve the sincere gratitude of the American People.

This is not meant to be an accusation or criticism of anyone, who has not done so, but those of you who know us, know that Margy and I are completely truthful, blunt, and do not mince words, especially when it comes to saving our nation. We know this offends some people, but in our view, it will not offend those who know the truth and who realize that only the People can save America, and if they do not act, now, then, our America is truly gone. All anyone needs to do is look at what has been going on in Washington, D.C. for the past year or so, up to the present, most recent "OBAMINATION" to see that the thugs-and- thieves-in-suits, whom we pay royally for their "service", do not give a damn about America or her People.

People will ask: "What can I do?" As Margy is fond of quoting, Margaret Mead's statement, made a long time ago, will give them direction: "Never forget that a small group of committed Citizens can change the world; in fact, it's the only thing that ever has." If you, dear reader, are a sincere, true American Patriot and a believer in the founding documents of this nation, starting with the Articles of Confederation, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, inclusive of the Bill of Rights, then, you know who and what you are and what you must do. To begin this, you could gather one or two others, who share your views and who are willing to ACT UPON THEM, who would then gather one or two more, and so on, and meet regularly each week or several times a month to practice and enforce the Constitutional methods that Margy and I have been teaching virtually all our lives.

When we began presenting seminars outside of New Mexico, we expected the seminar attendees to use these methods in their own areas and to reach the amount of success that we and our group were able to reach in New Mexico. As stated, enforcing the Constitution against evil is not easy, but if one is dedicated to that position, because that position upholds all that is right, just and Godly in this world, then it can be done. Jesus was all about freedom, truth and justice, as well as love and compassion. How can anyone claim to have love and compassion for his fellow humans, if he is unwilling to stand up for truth, justice and freedom? Remember, God helps those who help themselves and the Constitution helps those who enforce it.

We met Sam Kennedy, by and through Pastor Massad, over three and a half years ago, and we appeared together on several radio talk shows. Margy and I have presented many seminars in New England, and Sam attended the first one we presented in Massachusetts. As you well know, we are strictly Constitutional, but Sam went in a different direction. In a theoretically free country, anyone can do anything he wants, provided he does not harm others. The Constitution helps people, it does not harm them, but the methods that Sam and others have taught for years have not appeared to help people, and, in fact, have harmed many.

Sam called us in early March to see if we would consider coming "on board" with the Restore America Plan. The letter below was our answer to Sam, and we hope you will read it to have better understanding of our positions. During the preparation time for this Plan, we did not want to present this letter to the patriot community to influence anyone in one way or another. Each has to make his own choice, based upon his personal beliefs. However, since the due date for presentation of this Plan, as announced by Sam, himself, was yesterday, March 29th, and since everything would be resolved by March 31st, again, according to Sam, we now feel it is incumbent upon us to release this letter.

Yesterday evening, we listened on rbn.com to the John Stadtmiller "Intel Report" over which Sam, Ralph Winterrowd, John, and another fellow named Ron McDonald discussed the Restore America Plan. If these four people are an example of the "leaders" of the patriot community in this nation, then, this nation will never recover. People should choose their leaders wisely. The leaders who choose themselves and impose their "leadership" upon the People are not the true leaders. RememberPlato's Republic in which leadership is given to the man who does not seek or want it. Beware of those who covet leadership and claim to represent your best interests.

During yesterday's radio program, we heard so much equivocation, mostly from Sam, grand standing, from just about everyone, argumentation, pettiness and outright crap, that it was a waste of two hours of our valuable time! Exaggeration, off point remarks, unanswered questions, obliquely posed questions, and obscure positions abounded. It sounded like four unruly kids arguing over who was going to have control of the toys and not the remarks of erudite, well spoken presenters based in anything of substance. Sam announced, some time ago, that everything would be resolved by the 31st of March, but in "answer" to a few questions, he said that people have to be "patient" and wait another "30 to 60 days", and then we will see changes within the next "one to two years". That is not what he originally stated when he previously announced that everything would be resolved by March 31st. He also stated that the De Jure grand juries would not indict any politicians or government officers in the de facto governments for their actions, but rather the Plan's intent is to show compassion, forgiveness and mercy, unless the governors, purportedly put on notice, yesterday, that their bonds have been arrested, refuse to take their oaths to support the De Jure government allegedly being restored. However, he did not say that, in that event, the grand juries would indict. He said nothing of the military role and when pressed as to how this plan would be enforced, would this be done by military force, he refused to give details, claiming that to do so could put people in jeopardy. When Sam was pressed as to who or what gave him the authority to write these orders to be presented to the governors, he danced around the question, spouted about sovereignty and being a "child of God", equivocated that he "just signed the cover letter" that accompanied the orders, when he has stated before that he wrote the orders.

Sam made claims that the Federal Reserve Bank is being dismantled "as we speak" and that the IRS is basically "going out". These claims, if true, would be absolutely wonderful, but Sam presented no evidence, whatsoever, to support his claims, nor is any evidence apparent of these actions having taken place. On another point, concerning Sam's claims that the governors of all fifty states had been served notice of the intent of the Restore America Plan regarding restoration of De Jure governments, oaths and bonds, etc., Ralph Winterrowd stated emphatically that he had spoken with the office of the governor of Alaska, on several occasions, and that he was told that the governor had never heard of the Restore America Plan. Ralph did say that this could have been a false statement, but he appeared very skeptical and contentious about the Plan. How do we know if any governors have been served or not, and who is going to confirm this, if "secrecy" must be maintained to "protect people"? This whole thing sounds like wishful thinking and fantasy. Sam also mentioned in that broadcast that some of the "elite" and some of the "banksters" are "on board" with his Plan, because they know that the system cannot continue on its present course. He even claimed that the Vatican and others in the "elite" are on board because the present course will no longer benefit them. These evil entities have profited enormously from the suffering, warfare, financial shenanigans, fraud, taxation, etc. perpetrated by all of them against the People, for centuries, so why would they suddenly just abandon something so lucrative for this "Plan"? Again, folks, things just don't add up here.

While most of us would like to see such things take place, as have been represented by Sam, the likelihood of these tyrants giving up their "gig" is, in our view, slim to zero, especially based upon the work and "orders" of approximately only 1300 or so American Citizens. Do these Citizens, no matter how well intended, speak for you? And if so, under what lawful authority? Did you extend your authority to them and give them permission to speak for you?

Those of you who have been true to the Constitution(s) and those of you willing to go back to them, can go to our website to learn the very simple, easy and direct methods we advocate and, hopefully, apply them in your own communities, wherever needed, to restore just Constitutional governance. For those of you who are interested, we have CDs of these methods, taken from a case Margy prevailed, twice, against the fourth largest holding company in America, and we also have DVDs of some of our seminars. Donations in any amount are always welcome and greatly appreciated.

The letter we sent to Sam is presented below.

Best regards,

Jack and Margy

www.citizensoftheameric anconstitution.org/

christine  posted on  2010-04-02   10:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA (#5)

When I say things like 'scary times' I'm not really referring to anything inside of me. Rather, I consider things like old people, women and kids who are always caught in the crossfire. If chaos ensues, seniors can say goodbye to their prescription medicines, asthma sufferers can say goodbye to the meds that keep it under control, birth fatalities will skyrocket, all that kind of thing. I try to look at the big picture.

This isn't to say I'm against these statists being turned out into the street, or worse. But I do feel some compassion for the weak who will be hurt in the process (but probably not by "us" at all).

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-02   10:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)

Well said. We think alike on this.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   11:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, all (#6)

"Never forget that a small group of committed Citizens can change the world; in fact, it's the only thing that ever has."

...

The leaders who choose themselves and impose their "leadership" upon the People are not the true leaders.

...

Beware of those who covet leadership and claim to represent your best interests.

...

Halle'fn'luiah!

Oh I bet that went over well with my ol' buddy alex jones!

Extremely interesting. This is getting curiouser and curiouser. A potential false flag setup? Not necessarily a "terrorist" attack but something a little more subtle and therefore potentially more effective?


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   11:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

For some reason it cut my post off, anyway go to this thread when you get there Nevada : Capitol locked down in wake of threats and it has a load of info that would take to long to transfer here.

As for causing civil war it maybe however I see it as revolution. Let's hope and pray that it does not come to that. If you are a beleiver however you know how this will end so I fear not.

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2010-04-02   11:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#6)

You know I received this the other day and I see there point however the horse has left the gate and is running full tilt. So this is not relevent in the respect that the Restore America Plan (TRAP) has been implemented. Now is not the time to divide but unite.

Egos must be set aside and TRAP has taken point on this. The time to decern is over people we must now act and quickly get behind our brothers and sisters who were so bold to take this monumental first step

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2010-04-02   11:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#11)

The time to decern is over people

BULLSHIT!

What utter and complete BULLSHIT!

.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   11:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: SonOfLiberty, noone222, Jethro Tull, All (#7)

they're talking about this on MSM. fyi, Sam Kennedy's real last name is Berkowicz.

christine  posted on  2010-04-02   11:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#11) (Edited)

here's the Flynn's letter to Sam. note particularly their words about the U.S. military:

Dear Sam,

It was good to have heard from you, though, to be candid, rather surprising, after three and a half years or so. As you said in your email, it has been “toooo long”, so let’s not make it another three years before we communicate again!

Following our brief phone conversation, yesterday, I discussed with Jack the information you conveyed to me, and, last night, we reviewed all of the material you sent by email, which, per your request, has not been shared with anyone else. Since the documents were quite lengthy, and since some were in old- style type, which conveys dignity to the documents, but can be hard to decipher, it took some time read and digest them, so we decided to “sleep on them” before conveying our honest comments and observations to you, today. You explained that your time frame is an urgent one, so we wish to be as clear, succinct and direct as possible.

Sam, as you likely know, Jack and I have been in the battle for lawful governance since we were teenagers, so for some fifty plus years we have been aware of, exposing and overcoming the egregious fraud which has passed for “government”, at all levels in this country, by holding “public servants” to their oaths and the Constitutional mandates thereof. Over the past 11 years, in New Mexico, we and our group have won hundreds of victories, using our Constitutional methods, in court, administratively and in public forums. We have been urging our fellow Americans to get involved and be responsible for their freedom, so we applaud the efforts anyone makes to restore righteous governance to America.

Many people have asked us our opinion of what you and your colleagues are trying to accomplish for America. Since you attended one of our seminars and you thus know that Margy and I are direct and to the point, we will tell you essentially what we told them. Although we agree with the principles encompassed within your materials, we do not support the approach. In the first place, from what you said, your approach was birthed by and relies heavily upon military support. As avowed supporters of the Supreme Law of the Land, which is also the founding political document of this nation, we cannot, in any way, whatsoever, support and condone anyone or any faction that came up through the ranks of an evil military that has demonstrated its evilness from the very inception of this nation, not only against people of other nations, but also, on numerous occasions, against members of its own and upon the American People. This evil American institution supports and enforces the unlawful, pernicious and destructive policies of the very evil entities that have controlled this nation from its inception. Anyone who relies upon the military to do anything Constitutional or just, is sadly mistaken and puts himself at risk. Sam, you have a lot of intelligence, so we urge you to take a strong second look at this entire position, which appears to be dependent upon military might.

One of our dear friends is a retired Air Force Major, who loves the Law and the Constitution. He told us, when the subject of the “Oath Keepers” arose, that, as far as his direct experience goes, he has never seen a solider who would not obey an order from his superior, even if that order were to shoot American Citizens. Orders like this have been issued to the military from the beginning, and the military has complied. We presented a seminar in San Diego, last summer, attended by a large number of higher echelon military, including SEALS, etc., and although they do not approve of what is going on in the government, they confirmed the same thing our friend said. The military is not now, nor has ever been, a friend to the American People. In a seminar we presented, last year, Sheriff Richard Mack, who has been somewhat involved with the Oath Keepers, was a guest speaker. Richard is a real patriot and his case, Printz and Mack v. U.S., was a victory before the Supreme Court regarding the Brady Bill and States Rights. When we told him what history shows the military would likely do, when given orders detrimental to the American People, he was silent. Good people do bad things under evil orders, and always have. RememberNazi Germany and what the Germans said at Nuremberg about an order being an order? We wish we could say that people have evolved beyond their lemming-like consciousness, but evidence demonstrates that they have devolved, rather than evolved. We wish it were otherwise.

Beyond the military concerns, the specific methods you are using to accomplish your objective we do not condone or support. These rely very heavily upon forming De Jure Grand Juries in every state and then having the juries issue orders, which apparently come from a preconceived position, to Governors of each state. Do you and your colleagues actually believe that any governor in this country, who is the product of the fraud and the servant of evil, will ever abide by “canned orders” given by 26 or 27 “ordinary” Citizens who call themselves a De Jure Grand Jury? Sam, dear friend, this sounds to us like fantasy. Have you and your people really thought this out and considered the serious and potentially dire consequences involved?

In our considered opinion, no governor will abide by any such orders, let alone give them any real credibility, except to consider the possibility of incarceration of those grand jurors for … you pick the “crimes” and charges. These hypocritical, thugs-and-thieves-in-suits invent them as they go along, and add to their already enormous load of crap, with more crap! Sam, this is the real world, and for the past fifty-odd years, we have lived in the obnoxious reality of this world. When the governors fail to abide by the grand juries’ orders, will your military people be on hand to enforce those orders? Do you have military people in all fifty states and in D.C. whom you can trust to actively and immediately support the grand juries and enforce their orders? If not, what makes you think that the governors or the bureaucrats you named, or anyone else, will accede to these orders? Even if you did have military in fifty states who would try to enforce the orders, what do you think would happen? Have you considered the consequences? Again, Sam, this is the real world and in the real world, what happens is controlled and orchestrated by evil and pretty much always has been.

Whatever military faction claims to be your support base, will not do what you think they will, and even if they attempt it, they would be arrested and shot for treason against the “government of the United States”. In the real world, how could it be otherwise? Even if the support went to the very top, which we have a hard time believing, the same would happen. Let us say it came from the top, and everything they promised came true, do you actually believe that faction would surrender control to civilian authority? When in this real world of real evil has this ever happened?

The grand jury members would put themselves at extreme risk and so would you and your colleagues for advocating such measures. As we said, we support your principles, but not your methods. Since the beginning of our Constitutional activities, we have been quite successful, and in New Mexico, for the past 11 years, very successful in removing politicians from office, stopping major corporations and winning hundreds of cases on Constitutional grounds. Our group there was very small, but it was composed of sincere, dedicated Constitutionalists, and these victories were gained against one of the most evil corrupt governments in this nation. The retiring FBI Bureau Chief, during his final public broadcast over CBS to the People of New Mexico, said that New Mexico is the most corrupt state in the country; yet, we won against that corruption, by using the Constitution.

You may recall that I (Margy) was foreman of the San Miguel County Grand Jury in New Mexico and encountered enormous fraud, criminal actions, deceit, etc. by the entire jurisdiction, including the D.A., his office and prosecutors, the police, the courts and the prisons. When I challenged this entire system for these actions, the system was totally dumbfounded, because it had never been challenged in its entire history. Rather than acknowledge and correct the unconstitutional criminal actions, the system’s “answer” was to cancel all remaining grand jury sessions in which I would have been foreman, which amounted to about four months. Because of what took place, we campaigned against that crooked D.A. and he lost his bid for reelection, which is very unusual for well-entrenched, drug connected D.A.s in New Mexico. The head judge was forced into retirement and we also campaigned against the state attorney general, who lost her election.

Since we left New Mexico, a few dedicated members of that group are continuing the efforts, which, thankfully, have been very successful. One of our former group members, and our friend, Russell Means, is running for governor of New Mexico on a write-in campaign and does not want to be beholden to either major party. He also ran for president of the Lakota Sioux Nation, and when we saw him just before we left New Mexico, he told us that he got 45% of the vote in a very corrupt election. Had the election been honest, he would now be president. He was one of the original activists in A.I.M., has been battling corrupt federal authorities for years, and spent time in federal prison for his courageous actions against injustice. He is aConstitutionalist and will use that document to support the People and to, hopefully, win the election.

A few other members of our New Mexico group have been very vociferous about the Constitution, especially in their efforts to stop what was thought to be a “shoo in” by major well-invested, financially and politically well-connected corporations who want to drill for oil and natural gas throughout the area of New Mexico where we used to live. Those few people have stopped this drilling, cold, by and through use of the Constitution. One of our members just spoke before the New Mexico legislature on this and other matters, and, believe it or not, received a standing ovation, which was reported over state radio stations. Yes, the Constitution is difficult to enforce, because of the evil, corrupt, vile nature of the American political and judicial systems, but with strong dedication and earnest commitment from the courageous few willing to enforce it, it can be very effective. Even the peon mentality so prevalent in the People of New Mexico can grasp this, since it is the ONLY thing that has ever won them any victories and is the only thing that can pull them out of their slavery.

A brief comment on the above: the American military decimated the ancestors of these People and stole New Mexico from the true owners. Factions of the American military deserted in droves, because of the absolutely inhumane treatment they received, especially the Irish, and joined the Mexicans’ fight for their freedom in a brigade known as the “San Patricios” to stop the hated American military. When Mexico fell, that hated American military tortured and killed the remaining members of the San Patricios, so don’t ever speak to us, to Russell Means, to A.I.M., to any true freedom movement, to any true American patriot, or the People of New Mexico about the hated American military.

As we said, Sam, we present things exactly as we see them. Diplomacy is not our strong suit, but truth is, so we hope you understand the positions from which we come. If you would like our suggestions, from a Constitutional position, regarding your well-intended goals, we would be very happy to provide approaches that have been successful for the past fifty-odd years. If true Constitutional advocates, in the many thousands and, hopefully, millions, all over this nation, were to adopt these very simple Constitutional methods and enforce them upon reluctant local, state, and federal governments, en masse, then, maybe what we have done in a small way, all our lives, can be done on the national scene. Please let us know. Further, if you would like us to speak to other people in Maine who may have interest in joining your plan, we would be happy to do so. We look forward to hearing from you. It is best to communicate to this email than by phone.

One final note: You and many others, such as Jack Smith, Winston Shrout, Barton Butz, and scores of other people going back to the late thirties, forties and fifties, have been teaching various sundry combinations of Commercial/Maritime/Admiralty/Redemption/UCC methods, etc., etc. to the American People, which, to the extreme detriment of America, has taken the focus of hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, who could have acted as true patriots and true Constitutionalists, and embroiled them in these off- track, mercenary methods, which basically appear more interested in personal gain than in restoration of Constitutional governance in this nation. Whether you and the others believe that what you were doing was correct, or not, the results are the same. As you may know, “government” cleverly sets up “opposition” to its programs, replete with shills and provocateurs, to ensure that any real patriotic efforts are distracted from their objectives, enticed with “a pot of gold at the end”, insidiously divided and eventually disbanded.

The above referenced methods were not designed to be effective or successful. In our view, they were designed to deceive, which is why there have been so few real victories over many, many years, despite rigorous efforts by their proponents. Proponents and their followers unwittingly did the bidding of their enemies, which is typical in this upside down world. How sad for these people and how devastatingly unfortunate for America. Evil is very, very clever, extremely enticing and so successful at manipulating even the very best minds. Sam, in our considered opinions and gut instincts, the circumstances indicate that you are being duped, and in the process, you are unwittingly duping others. We sincerely hope we are wrong, but from our past record, our guts usually prove correct.

Had the early movements been and remained Constitutionally based and had those movements been picked up, extended, and spread throughout the country to enforce the Constitution upon every aspect of errant, de facto government throughout this nation, then, we would not be facing the diabolical, satanic, evil rule which controls virtually every aspect of American and planetary life. We expanded our seminar presentations out of New Mexico nearly four years ago to warn the People that, in our opinion, we only had about 5 to 6 years to change things Constitutionally and restore just government to America. Had you and the other groups emphatically and enthusiastically supported the Constitution, instead of focusing upon methods for monetary gain, America could be a lot safer and freer, today.

Best regards,

christine  posted on  2010-04-02   11:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#13)

they're talking about this on MSM.

I heard this mentioned yesterday on MSM myself. Something about beefing up security at State Capitols.

Kinda funny because the Reform Statement begins with verbiage to the effect that the intent is one of peaceful return to legitimate governance.

The perps will use any excuse to enlarge police and military forces (standing armies) amongst their insurgent slaves.

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-02   11:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#13)

I'm wondering why, if these letters are "harmless, non-threatening" as being reported in the MSM, they are being reported at all, along with breathless "gosh, we hope this doesn't incite violence!".

It would not surprise me if the PTB want to incite violence on Easter, which to them is just another smack at peace and Christianity?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-02   11:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#13)

Sam Kennedy's real last name is Berkowicz.

I have never considered Sam's message as much more than a distraction.

Why do you think he is using an alias ???

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-02   11:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222, christine (#17)

Given as the MSM is reporting this, and capitols (or some of them) are "stepping up security", I do wonder if these letters, even if genuine, are being used for a quick buildup of power for a later show of force?

The MSM/politicians are, after all, working double time to demonize all dissent. This may well be part of an intimidation campaign by them.

Just thinking out loud of course, who knows the reality of it all?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-02   12:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA (#12)

Replace corporate government and restore the American republic … by March 31?

guardiansofthefr eerepublics.com/introduction.html

The Guardians of the Free Republics and the fifty American De jure Grand Juries invite you to join our ranks and finally solve your problems.

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2010-04-02   12:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA (#12)

BULLSHIT!

What utter and complete BULLSHIT!

You are so a shill, and a dumb one

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2010-04-02   12:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: MING THE MERCILESS, all (#20)

Uh, I am NOT the one that is trying to get people to jump in without knowing how deep the water is, YOU are. YOU are the one that is trying to get people to play "follow the leader" without knowing anything about that so-called leader.

But you are doing exactly what a shill would encourage others to do. It was your "The time to decern (sic) is over people" quote that gave you away. Discernment is the shills enemy.

It's ready, aim, fire. Not fire, ready aim.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   12:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#6)

More from "Sam Kennedy", with some of the statements that give me pause bolded:

SATURDAY UPDATE: LENGTHY - The armed force were served notice of the return of lawful sovereign (“civilian”) authority.

Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Sunday, 28-Mar-2010 00:19:37

In Response To: It is Official !! Provost Marshalls with 3 de jeur appointed Guardians will serve Notice to the Governors (Rayelan)

Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:35:12 -0430
Subject: CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA-THE SOV PEOPLE HAVE RETURNED! From: restoreamerica4a@gmail.com

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Please do NOT reply to THIS email account!!!!! - IT IS TEMPORARY AND NOT MONITORED. Do NOT add this address to your list. Any questions sent to this box are LOST FOREVER. For questions, please send your email to restore.america@hotmail.com

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Hello folks,

Wednesday, I had the extreme pleasure, along with regan dwayne, of signing an order to the men and women who occupy the office of Governor of each of the incorporated States of the United States Federal Corporation, and a second order to the armed forces of the United States of America, restoring lawful governance of, by and for the sovereign People. What a tremendous pleasure to finally be in position to take back our country. The deed is done.

Yesterday, a day that will live in history, all such office holders were served with a warrant arresting their bonds, thus the de facto office of Governor has been re-absorbed into its de jure counterpart as an operation of law, and the occupants thereof are operating under the provisional de jure bond of the sovereign People. Most of the governors have been alerted to expect service.

Also yesterday, the armed force were served notice of the return of lawful sovereign (“civilian”) authority. And that the People have assembled as fifty well-regulated militias and reinhabited de jure grand juries in all American republics.

As of Monday, the presumption of authority by private corporate actors impersonating public officials under color of law is pre-empted by lawful “civilian” authority, effectively ending the era of illicit corporations posing as legitimate governments. Finally, the children are free.

Upon delivery, all parties will have been informed that the sovereign People have EXPRESSLY accepted their respective state constitutions and the Constitution for the United States of America, circa 1787, as BINDING CONTRACTS upon them.

They will be under orders to end state-sponsored terrorism against members of the sovereign People. They will be required to provide sovereign ID and passports. The governors have mere days to subscribe the new oath of office. They have been assured that the People do not intend to trespass on the rights of others to elect subject-class citizenship, thus ensuring a peaceful and non-violent transition. Our military public servants have been instructed to extend every reasonable effort to encourage repentance and forgiveness.

In light of concerns by the members of the De jure Grand Juries, and after discussions with some of the Elders, Tom assumed the role of lead contact for the armed forces and I had the honor of assuming the role of lead contact for the governors, Secretaries of State and Attorneys general for all of the republics. These were natural positions for both of us, and for which the Lord has groomed us with the richness of our lives’ experiences.

Rest assured, that when I am contacted by our public servants, I will undertake all necessary measures to ensure they comply with the People’s orders AS I WROTE THEM, not some backroom political perversion thereof, to cease the bogus prosecutions, provide sovereign ID and passports (beginning with the jurors whose information I have in my possession), adjust the crime databases to reflect sovereign immunity for those jurors, and assist me in emptying the prisons of political prisoners beginning with the families and friends of those jurors, and those “convicted” of tax-related “crimes.” It will be my highest duty to work closely with the Attorneys General to establish the criteria for assembling the lists of political prisoners per the orders. There will be no lawyerly dancing on these matters.

Folks, you have no idea the amount of work and devotion that was expended on behalf of your freedom this week, from preparing the final polished Declaration at this end, to regan’s soup-to-nuts handling of the monumental task of uniform, timely, professional presentment. While many still harbor fear for having signed the declaration of freedom, I personally view this as the most important signature of my life, fulfillment of prophesy. Had it been possible, I would have handed the document to each and every actor personally, looked him in the eyes and said, “Congratulations, welcome back to the brotherhood of man. You have three days to take the oath of office.”

Einstein observed that all great revolutions began as a single thought in the mind of an individual. He knew the capacity of men to manifest the word of the Lord, especially in America, a land founded by men of revolutionary spirit. This week the People, at the eleventh hour, on the brink of world chaos and destruction, have expanded Louis McFadden’s challenge into the last, best and only hope for freedom for all the world’s children from economic genocide. All we did was weave together the trail of great men of history, the cravings of the slaves in their filthy huts as they hugged their children, the desire in each of you to ensure your children are secure from the solicitations of pagan money predators, into a shining tapestry of liberty to stand until man no longer walks the earth. That is the importance of our mission.

I invite America to join me this Sunday night for an important discussion of events to come on TAKE NO PRISONERS on the Republic Broadcasting Network (8 PM, Sunday, March 28). There is much speculation about what to expect in the next few weeks, grand jury duties, the Constitution, and Phase II. We will also be joined by a very special guest.

In light of security breaches surrounding the Declaration, Phase II is securely locked away until the day of presentment. However, I can tell you that your first reading of it will be as shocking and pleasurable as was the Declaration. TOP to bottom OVERHAUL - all behind the scenes of course. I will have more to say on the broadcast.

At the request of a number of jurors, grand jury procedure will receive special attention during the broadcast. The amount of perilous misinformation seems to be increasing daily such that jurors are likely to find themselves in serious jeopardy if they don;t remain true to the Plan, in my opinion as author of the Declaration. As many of you understand better than some of your leaders, YOU DID NOT JOIN THE GRAND JURIES TO BECOME LAWYERS AND CONSTITUTIONAL EXPERTS. That’s the sort of chasing-your-tail diversion U.S. Inc. has been using against you for years to distract you from the Lord and the enjoyment of life. Aren't you tired of becoming jailhouse lawyers? Be very careful about getting addicted at the expense of your families. Let the law serve you for a change, as it was intended.

YOU DID NOT JOIN THE GUARDIANS TO LEARN CORPORATE STATUTES, RULES OF EVIDENCE, GRAND JURY PROCEDURES and all the other false idols which exist to block your remedy and divert you to worshipping earthly kings.

The LAST place we would look for insight into a true grand jury is the incorporated de facto bar association mafia counsel masquerading as a grand jury for the purpose of stealing you blind. Why would we ever wish to emulate those monstrosities?

WE DO NOT WISH TO EMULATE DE FACTO GRAND JURIES OR COUNTY WE DO NOT WISH TO EMULATE DE FACTO GRAND JURIES OR COUNTY ASSEMBLIES. I will discuss this topic in detail on the broadcast. Jurors will want to listen carefully. It is my goal to ensure that every one of you enjoys your remedy and also remains safe. THE KEY IS TO UNLEARN THE BRAINWASHING, RATHER THAN RELEARN IT. That has always been our goal from the day I put pen to paper.

JURORS MUST AVOID GETTING SEDUCED BY PROCESS AND BECOMING THE VERY BEAST THEY HAVE GROWN TO DESPISE. While I can't possibly bring you up to speed on our months of private negotiations and discussions, I can tell you with certainty that the founding Elders did NOT intend to create a permanent fourth branch of government. To think otherwise is to not yet understand the Plan. The Declaration was written on two levels. Now would be a good time to really give it a read from a broader perspective.

Folks, the Constitution is but a tool to secure the allegiance of the sleeping masses to the restoration of God’s law on this earth. Sadly, hundreds of millions of people need such idols as the source of their rights. You may wish to review the Jan 31, Feb 7, and Feb 14 broadcasts of TAKE NO PRISONERS for further insight into the philosophy and rationale of the Plan.

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Finally, as you may have heard I have been invited by host and network owner, John Stadtmiller, to appear as a guest Monday night on THE NATIONAL INTEL REPORT on the Republic Broadcasting Network. I have since been informed that we will be joined by Ralph Winterrowd, another RBN radio host, who believes The Restore America Plan “has a very odious smell of betrayal.” I look forward to meeting Ralph first hand and entertaining his expressed belief that the people should take their evidence to the “sitting (de facto) Grand Juries” so that Mom and Pop can be awakened from their stupor and indict their public officials. I invite everyone to tune in and call in as we debate remedy through illicit corporations versus remedy through the sovereign People, the latter already underway. And best of all, the program is being held on G-Day, the very day that the sovereign People arrest the bonds of the fifty de facto Governors and end the era of corporate governance in favor of the de jure republic.

TAKE NO PRISONERS can be heard on FM and shortwave stations around the world, and on the internet via Shoutcast or directly through the network website at:

http://republicbroadcasting.org

Folks, would you kindly CIRCULATE THIS EMAIL FAR AND WIDE. Thank you, in advance.

Blessings and peace to you all,

Sam Kennedy

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Dr. Sam Kennedy
Host: TAKE NO PRISONERS
Republic Broadcasting network
http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/

The Save America Crusade

TAKE NO PRISONERS can be heard on FM and shortwave stations around the world, and on the internet via Shoutcast or directly through the network website at: http://republicbroadcasting.org

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P.S. Here are links to the Jan. 31, 2010 broadcast sent in by listeners:

Hour 1:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/71969416ad804e00/

Hour 2:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/71969710b7fee8b0/

You can also download the broadcast or listen on the internet at:

http://republicbroadcasting.org

Or listen in real time at:

http://educationcenter2000.com/The Final Remedy_Sam Kennedy.htm

And here are links to the February 7, 2010 broadcast:

http://republicbroadcasting.org (archives)

http://www.statusisfreedom.com/ (right side of page)

more: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi....cgi?noframes;read=169900

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Upon delivery, all parties will have been informed that the sovereign People have EXPRESSLY accepted their respective state constitutions and the Constitution for the United States of America, circa 1787, as BINDING CONTRACTS upon them.

I wasn't asked were you? Is this the Con-Con New States Constitution? What gives? Enquiring minds want to know. [And still checking all this out, but at first glance, Sam Kennedy sounds a little arrogant, not to mention a little "City of London-ish". The first CONstitution was a contract on the American people, binding them to the Bankster's debt for the war foisted on them by Judeo-Masonic cunning: http://www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm . Are we to start all over again under new currency, gold-based perhaps, with them having stolen all our gold? What, what? I don't understand. The only way that CONstitution would work for me is if THEY had to abide by it, AS OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS, under the remedy Kennedy and Tim Turner have taught: DISCHARGING-DEBT, not for the purpose of becoming filthy rich, but for healing the nations (Rev. 22) and to be free to perform the purpose God raised up the church and this nation to perform: Rev. 5:9-10.]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-04-02   12:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#14)

I've heard this couple (the Flynns) claim a plethora of victories but have yet to see the proof of any. Lots of people clamoring for attention few getting solid results.

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-02   12:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22) (Edited)

Oh! There just happens to be a link to the Con-Con on the sweetliberty...jewishpersecution URL above:

"Three years of my life (from early 1993 through late 1995) were spent defending and protecting the Constitution for the United States of America, when a last-ditch effort was made by the elite to open a Constitutional Convention (Con-Con). In 1993, twelve states simultaneously introduced resolutions calling for a Con-Con; they were all defeated soundly. In 1995 another back-door attempt was made via the Conference of States. I believed our success in blocking that was a series of "miracles".

Maybe it was. Maybe there is something in that Constitution that scares hell out of the Creatures, the would-be gods who dream of ruling the entire world. Maybe our efforts simply slowed them down. If our reader would like to see a history of that attempt, and our efforts, see www.sweetliberty.org/concon.htm "

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edit:

I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING!!

Noachide Judges and Courts will Replace the Existing Court System ...

"....Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. All economic and technological aid to the Communist Bloc, including the PLO, will be terminated immediately. Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts (the batei dinim of the rabbis) will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts. The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha; in the United States, the emphasis will be on **** restoring the authority of the Constitution and abolishing all unconstitutional government programs and agencies. The national debt will be foreclosed, probably by paying off creditors with government land holdings, thus averting economic disaster. And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law....." www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_noachide_judge_and_. [not complete url]

I hate to disparage anyone's hard work if this is on the up-and-up, BUT.....

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-04-02   12:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)

Excellent post! Thank you!

Sounds like, at best, Sam The Jew has delusions of grandeur. At worst he is a deceiver that is trying to T.R.A.P. us. Neither one is good.

Who the fuck is he to tell me anything, or to tell me something is binding on me? And "The Elders"! LMAO!

This is getting more and more surreal!

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   12:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)

Upon delivery, all parties will have been informed that the sovereign People have EXPRESSLY accepted their respective state constitutions and the Constitution for the United States of America, circa 1787, as BINDING CONTRACTS upon them.

Presumptuous is an understatement especially when one considers the slavery intended by and through the 14th Amendment.

Normally I don't comprehend Ralph Winterrowd's disjointed proclamations regarding "agency" etc., but I'd have to agree with him on this one. (I do see some similarities in Ralph's claims of agency to that of the Roman Emperors that sold various authorities such as tax collection to the highest bidder).

The Governors and HOMO-LAND CONspiracy will ramp this meaningless bullshit up and add it to their Pandora's Box of false flag / provacateur operations in furtherance of the police state that I can feel closing in on the innocent people of a once great nation.

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-02   13:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#6)

For those of you who are interested, we have CDs of these methods, taken from a case Margy prevailed, twice, against the fourth largest holding company in America, and we also have DVDs of some of our seminars. Donations in any amount are always welcome and greatly appreciated.

Like I said these people seam sincere however the cat is out of the bag so this letter is irrelevent now. And who are these people? It has been stated by TRAP that these types would be trying to gain financially.

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2010-04-02   13:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SonOfLiberty (#18)

I heard part of the "plan" on Statdmiller's RBN ... but didn't pay much attention to what was being said once I knew who was talking (Sam Kennedy).

I agree that this is about raising a speck of microbial sand to boulder size for the purpose of hiring some more pigs, invading some homes, beating up some old ladies and tazering some kids !

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-02   13:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222 (#26)

The Governors and HOMO-LAND CONspiracy will ramp this meaningless bullshit up and add it to their Pandora's Box of false flag / provacateur operations in furtherance of the police state that I can feel closing in on the innocent people of a once great nation.

That could be it.

I really, really, really, hate to think ill of Tim Turner and his people....I know people that have been helped by his process....but that "Elders" thing smacks too much of the Elders of Sion and also the Elders that LDS site spoke of [ www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=116496 #21]. I really don't know what to think at the moment.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-04-02   13:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#2)

Shades of the brilliance that was Rick Stanley.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-04-02   13:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)

Our Plan

To Restore America

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Call All voter eligible Evangelical Christians in America to REGISTER TO VOTE and to VOTE in the 2010 elections and every election thereafter *

Call All Bible Believing Pastors and Christian Leaders in America to call their congregations and organizations to 100% VOTER REGISTRATION and TURNOUT *

Call All Christians to VOTE for those who acknowledge our Christian Heritage and respect God's authority over all mankind, including civil government

To Govern Ourselves 'Within' and 'Without'

Edmund Burke, the famous British Statesman said in 1791...

"Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free."

Our forefathers understood, as did Burke, that we are to control (govern) ourselves from 'within', through the Spirit of God, and in civil government ('without') through our VOTES.

Whereas our Founders understood this truth and honored God in civil government, we have become a nation "under the rule of men" who no longer seek God or honor His timeless truth. Instead of honoring God's laws, they ignore, pervert, or remove them altogether, thus arrogantly removing the protective hand of divine Providence.

Whether we will govern ourselves individually...and collectively through civil government...according to the laws of God, is the great question of our time. Through the wisdom and sacrifice of our Founders, who fought for and earned our right of self determination, we are responsible for, and in control of our future through our VOTES!

"The future of this republic is in the hands of the American voter."

Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President of the United States

"...the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace...self control;"

Galations 5:22-23

Excuse me for not being overly enthused. The majority of Evangelical America spent eight years cheerleading Bush and the Republican Party. If they vote in mass as this group wants, it will be for the Republican Party and nothing will change. For the most part, evangelicals are pro-war and pro-Israel and offer nothing but more death, empire building and Republican big government.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-04-02   14:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#31)

It would appear that there is more than one Restore America Plan. The one above is different from the one in the article. My mistake and my apologies.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-04-02   14:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#31)

Excuse me for not being overly enthused. The majority of Evangelical America spent eight years cheerleading Bush and the Republican Party. If they vote in mass as this group wants, it will be for the Republican Party and nothing will change.

Did you expect something different? They already took over the so-called tea party movement. What's to stop them from taking over this movement? Or initiating it themselves?


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   14:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PSUSA, ALL, Just got word from Ralph Winterrowd that all 1300 who signed the document are gettin visits from the FBI today (#33)

BTTT

christine  posted on  2010-04-02   14:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#34)

Why?

Help me out here. In theory, whether effectual or not, whether silly or not, whatever, this is not a threatening position as I understand it, and they keep saying on the radio and in articles, that there were no threats issued.

I suspect that they (the ptb) think that us folks in flyover country really are ignorant idiots.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-02   14:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SonOfLiberty (#35)

well, you know how MSM spins things...we have to consider also that this was a setup....perhaps part of the effor to shut down alternative media and the internet. from Ralph:

FYI Ralph.... Just now, 1:00 PM 03-31-10 two pleasant FBI > agents came to visit and had a copy of the grand jury list that I and > the other 26 had signed.

> > They gave no appearance of trying to create trouble and only asked > basic questions as to what was the intent for serving the governors > being served. They made no attempt to fish for info, it was all > straight forward. >

> In response to their questions I explained that as I understood it, > the governors were given 3 days/72 hours to sign an oath to support > the American people or to step down. If they would not sign that the > next in line assumes the office. I explained that no violance would be > used unless it was the military assisting them stepping down and there > would be no militia involved.

> > I genuinely thanked them for coming by and they stated they were on > the same page with me and I believe they meant it.

> > Likely anyone who signed on the grand jury will also get a visit, be > polite and welcome the FBI and thank them.

> > Of course I told them the truth that there is no intent for violence > and the process is a peaceful one. I assured them that it had nothing > to do with the militias.

> > If you get visited, be polite, stay on point with your answers. > > I am encourage that they have responded so quickly. >

christine  posted on  2010-04-02   15:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#34)

Ralph Winterrowd

Is he reliable in your estimation?

I never heard of him.

.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   15:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#31)

Excuse me for not being overly enthused. The majority of Evangelical America spent eight years cheerleading Bush and the Republican Party. If they vote in mass as this group wants, it will be for the Republican Party and nothing will change. For the most part, evangelicals are pro-war and pro-Israel and offer nothing but more death, empire building and Republican big government.

Great comment. You're right, the people (especially the evangelical) have been played like a fiddle.

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-02   15:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine, all (#36)

My concern is this: (And I assume he is telling the truth here)

1) The FBI is not your friend. They were looking for him to supply his own rope for the hanging. They are not on the "same page".

(a) Until the FBI bastards arrest lon horiuchi for at least one count of murder 1, and arrest the other JBTs that falsified and destroyed evidence, they can lick my hairy white elbow.

2) They are not going to come off as hardcases when they are looking for that rope. Someone needs to tell him the Five Magic Words: I have nothing to say.

3) THey knew word was going to get around that they are talking to people, which is another reason they didn't act like typical pigs. If they can get info by being "nice", they will.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-02   15:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#36)

well. should we take this as good news, then, that The Restore America Plan is not in the hands of the government or at least not in the hands of THIS government? There's that running blog on the Wanta funds [Chris Story at worldreport.org ??] and the supposed war between the Queen and Bush, Clinton et al. Would be nice if our enemies [US and UK governments] are turning on each other in a great big family feud.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-04-02   15:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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