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Title: What Led Terry Hoskins to Bulldoze His Own Home?
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URL Source: http://technorati.com/business/arti ... ins-to-bulldoze/#ixzz0jxXDM0ci
Published: Apr 2, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-04-03 00:08:45 by Horse
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Views: 222
Comments: 15

I am in no way condoning Terry Hoskins bulldozing his home ahead of an impending foreclosure. I do not know enough to make any comment on his situation. Nevertheless, I can relate to his action because of a personal experience.

Hoskins had fallen on hard times. His own brother and a former business partner had sued him, and the IRS had placed liens on his carpet store and commercial property. He's unable to make mortgage payments on his $350,000 home in Moscow, Ohio. He still owes $160,000 to his bank. The bank gave him an ultimatum that they were going to foreclose on his home.

Hoskins said he had received an offer of $170,000 from someone and communicated that to his bank. The bank refused, stating that they could get more by selling it in foreclosure.

Of course, the law was clearly on the side of the bank. But isn’t that how it is supposed to be? The king has all the gold, so the king’s rules are the golden rules!

In this country we have steadily seen how the people have slowly lost their civil rights to the corporate interest. Recently, in a 5-4 Supreme Court verdict the corporation’s right of speech was sanctioned. Now go and fight with an organization that rules the airwaves with unbounded capital and find out what chance you have to get your free speech across when it involves a corporate giant. Corporations have all the rights of living beings while being immortal.

When the bank refused to take Hoskins' personal offer, that was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Hoskins took the matter in his own hands.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

When the bank refused to take Hoskins' personal offer, that was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Hoskins took the matter in his own hands.

The American people are being double butt fucked by criminals running the government and the banks. It's about time someone took matters into their own hands because it's all too obvious the government is an accomplice in the raping of America.

In all fairness, every empty foreclosure should be turned to ashes or bulldozed so as to return to the filth at the banks exactly what they had invested ... not a fucking thing.

Wake-up Amerika !

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-03   2:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-03   7:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1) (Edited)

In all fairness, every empty foreclosure should be turned to ashes or bulldozed so as to return to the filth at the banks exactly what they had invested ... not a fucking thing.

It's fairly obvious Terry Hoskins borrowed somewhere around $350,000 dollars from the bank, to help pay for the house he lived in.

Yet, you claim the bank invested "not a F-ing thing".

That means you believe $350,000 is not a F-ing thing, and that money is worthless to you.

Please send me all of your worthless money.

I have a Paypal account that can accept all of your worthless money.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-04-03   9:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Googolplex (#3)

Yet, you claim the bank invested "not a F-ing thing".

That means you believe $350,000 is not a F-ing thing, and that money is worthless to you.

That's not exactly what I mean ... what I mean is that the bank created the money out of thin air (based upon Hoskins signature) and the bank had no real investment. Banks create digital entries in a computer or numbers on a ledger sheet, none of which are "money" in the true sense of the word.

The public is taught to think little 6" pieces of paper, or checks or even credit cards are money when they are merely promises to pay or "notes" sometimes called "credit. There ain't no money !

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, (Attributed) 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)

Keep checking paypal, Googopud.

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-03   10:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4)

There ain't no money !

Tell your bank you want to withdraw cash $350K from your savings.

You wont get it. Cause they most likely wont have it. If you insist they will "borrow" it from the FED and then turn around and notify IRS and other agencies that noone222 is walking round with CASH...he must be up to something.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-04-03   10:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

then turn around and notify IRS and other agencies that noone222 is walking round with CASH...he must be up to something.

You're right on ! They don't have any money at banks. They need time to obtain it from the FED ... most people have a simplistic approach to money issues and that's why we're all paying tribute to shitheads and BANKERS.

He would be up to something, I'm sure of it.

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-03   10:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#4)

Banks loan money they receive from bank depositors.

Banks can only loan as much money as they have received from depositors, minus the reserve amount required by the federal reserve. Bank depositors are investors in a bank, and receive interest on their investment, paid mostly by people who borrow money as loans from banks.

There's nothing sinister about nationally chartered banks, which mostly operate above board, despite the ignorance you bring to the table.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-04-03   11:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Googolplex (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-03   11:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

Not sure what you mean by "nationally chartered banks," but the problem with banking is that, and while the "lower" ones are honest, is that they're all driven by the same exact corrupt mechanism(s) which all ultimately reach back to the Federal Reserve.

You may already know this but you are casting pearls before swine. The guy you posted that too is a prime example of what the clown filter is for. He doesn't know and doesn't want to know.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-03   11:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Googolplex, noone222 (#7) (Edited)

Banks loan money they receive from bank depositors.

Almost true. Banks loan money based upon the deposits made by their customers but in multiples of what is actually on deposit and thus it is fictitious money based upon people's confidence that the bank will in fact remain in business.

Banks can only loan as much money as they have received from depositors, minus the reserve amount required by the federal reserve.

Again, almost true. Banks maintain a minimal reserve amount which has now been eased to the point that it is almost nonexistent. I do not know what the exact current reserve requirement is (I could look it up but it is not necessary for my point), but effectively because the Fed is playing both sides as they are now loaning, at ZERO interest, the reserves to the banks. So, there is effectively no reserve requirement and banks are extended as much as 20:1 loans to deposits. No, they are not lending their own money, nor are they really loaning depositors money since the amount on deposit at any given time is many times LESS than the amount on loan. No, the only real limit on their ability to loan at this time is their capitalization i.e., the amount of money which is actually theirs and their stockholders.

Bank depositors are investors in a bank, and receive interest on their investment, paid mostly by people who borrow money as loans from banks.

Not unless you belong to a Mutual Bank or a Credit Union. (As an aside Credit Unions are a better deal for the customer which is why banks hate them.) The Stockholders are the investors in the Bank and they receive their income from the dividends generated from loaning money they don't have - and this is called "the miracle of Fractional Reserve Banking.

The FED has an even better deal. If they need money they print it, and you are on the hook to repay if they default. You are also on the hook if they produce too much and debase the currency while they buy up all the hard assets in the economy on your credit - which they are currently doing through their member banks such as Chase, Goldmine Sacks, et. al., ...

How does it feel to be a sucker?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-04-03   11:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton, James Deffenbach (#8)

Ping to my #8.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-04-03   11:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Googolplex (#3)

It's fairly obvious Terry Hoskins borrowed somewhere around $350,000 dollars from the bank, to help pay for the house he lived in.

The money never existed in the first place. The Fed creates "money" out of thin air -- confeiting -- "lends" it out, and expects people to pay back "money" that never existed in the first place.

Glad to help you out with these simple things.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-04-03   11:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Googolplex (#7) (Edited)

Banks loan money they receive from bank depositors.

Banks can only loan as much money as they have received from depositors, minus the reserve amount required by the federal reserve. Bank depositors are investors in a bank, and receive interest on their investment, paid mostly by people who borrow money as loans from banks.

There's nothing sinister about nationally chartered banks, which mostly operate above board, despite the ignorance you bring to the table.

OK, have it your way.

The only reason a bank pays the little interest they pay depositors is so that they can report them to the IRS for receiving taxable "income".

Bankers are now, and have ALWAYS been THIEVES (or worse) and will continue to be so as long as dolts like you think you need them.

Get thee hence satan !

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that many depositors were recently notified that their deposits would be withheld from them at the banks whim or upon a bank holiday. So, tell me satan, whose money is it ???

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-03   12:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#12)

The money never existed in the first place. The Fed creates "money" out of thin air -- confeiting -- "lends" it out, and expects people to pay back "money" that never existed in the first place.

Anyone who doesn't know that the bankers create money out of thin air is not paying attention. They admitted that as far back as 1968--at least that far back.

"... Plaintiff admitted that it, in combination with the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, which are for all practical purposes, because of their interlocking activity and practices, and both being Banking Institutions Incorporated under the Laws of the United States, are in the Law to be treated as one and the same Bank, did create the entire $14,000.00 in money or credit upon its own books by bookkeeping entry. That this was the Consideration used to support the Note dated May 8, 1964 and the Mortgage of the same date. The money and credit first came into existence when they created it. Mr. Morgan admitted that no United States Law Statute existed which gave him the right to do this. A lawful consideration must exist and be tendered to support the Note. See Ansheuser-Busch Brewing Company v. Emma Mason, 44 Minn. 318, 46 N.W. 558. The Jury found that there was no consideration and I agree. Only God can create something of value out of nothing.

Even if Defendant could be charged with waiver or estoppel as a matter of Law this is no defense to the Plaintiff. The Law leaves wrongdoers where it finds them. See sections 50, 51 and 52 of Am Jur 2nd "Actions" on page 584 – "no action will lie to recover on a claim based upon, or in any manner depending upon, a fraudulent, illegal, or immoral transaction or contract to which Plaintiff was a party."

Plaintiff's act of creating credit is not authorized by the Constitution and Laws of the United States, is unconstitutional and void, and is not a lawful consideration in the eyes of the Law to support any thing or upon which any lawful right can be built.

Nothing in the Constitution of the United States limits the jurisdiction of this Court, which is one of original Jurisdiction with right of trial by Jury guaranteed. This is a Common Law action. Minnesota cannot limit or impair the power of this Court to render Complete Justice between the parties. Any provisions in the Constitution and laws of Minnesota which attempt to do so is repugnant to the Constitution of the United States and void. No question as to the Jurisdiction of this Court was raised by either party at the trial. Both parties were given complete liberty to submit any and all facts to the Jury, at least in so far as they saw fit.

No complaint was made by Plaintiff that Plaintiff did not receive a fair trial. From the admissions made by Mr. Morgan the path of duty was direct and clear for the Jury. Their Verdict could not reasonably been otherwise. Justice was rendered completely and without denial, promptly and without delay, freely and without purchase, conformable to the laws in this Court of December 7, 1968.

BY THE COURT

December 9, 1968

Justice Martin V. Mahoney

Credit River Township

Scott County, Minnesota.

Note: It has never been doubted that a Note given on a Consideration which is prohibited by law is void. It has been determined, independent of Acts of Congress, that sailing under the license of an enemy is illegal. The emission of Bills of Credit upon the books of these private Corporations for the purpose of private gain is not warranted by the Constitution of the United States and is unlawful. See Craig v. Mo. 4 Peters Reports 912. This Court can tread only that path which is marked out by duty. M.V.M.

Excerpt from: http://educationcenter2000.com/legal/credit_river_decision.htm

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-03   12:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Googolplex (#7)

Bank depositors are investors in a bank

There's nothing sinister about nationally chartered banks, which mostly operate above board, despite the ignorance you bring to the table.

The more I considered your comments the angrier I became. You're either a fucking shill or way too stupid to play in this sand box.

Who invited your ignorant ass to 4UM ?

April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-04   2:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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