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Published: Apr 6, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-04-06 06:25:26 by bluegrass
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#6. To: Esso (#4)
same here.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
They aren't welfare queens. They're murderers. And rapists. And general thugs. As far as getting jobs go, I'm sure LCN could use some more hitmen. .
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
I suspect that the war of 1812 fits as well. Though most consider that simply the counter-invasion of the British and a continuation of the revolutionary war.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Those who accuse the military of such crimes are usually guilty of committing, or supporting, one or more of those three crimes. Murder of babies through abortions. Rape by muslims against women and children. And thuggery by supporting violent riots in the form of union protests.
Yeah right. Fuck you. I dont accuse them of anything. They are guilty of them. For example, the latest guncamera footage of civilians being murdered and the subsequent coverup. So it is those in the military, or those that willingly give rimjobs to the military, that are guilty of those things. I'll say it again. I hope none of them make it home alive. They deserve death for what they have done, and continue to do, to people that have done us no harm. And our military loves to murder. It excites them so much. You can hear it in that video and a lot of other videos out there. .
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
And what are they doing to expose what is happening? Did they murder any "civilians"? (god I hate that word). I find it hard to cut anyone slack when it comes to murder. They did it voluntarily. No one drafted them. Contractors didn't kill that many citizens, but enough for me to wish them dead too. It was mostly the military's doing. Their biggest mistake is perhaps not being bright enough to educate themselves on all of it and/or to be able to think/reason independently. I disagree. You can hear it in their voices in that video and in others. They love to murder people. It makes their day to murder people that have never done us any harm. And they know it will be covered up for them. So, fuck them. Let them die, over there, at the hands of the resistance because they deserve it. It isn't over yet, you know.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or 2. Fuck you. 3. I dont accuse them of anything. They are guilty of them. 4. For example, the latest guncamera footage of civilians being murdered and the subsequent coverup. 5. So it is those in the military, or those that willingly give rimjobs to the military, that are guilty of those things. 6. I'll say it again. I hope none of them make it home alive. They deserve death for what they have done, and continue to do, to people that have done us no harm. And our military loves to murder. It excites them so much. You can hear it in that video and a lot of other videos out there. 1. Glad you agree. 2. You're not my type. You're too bitchy. 3. So you declare yourself judge and jury. You don't have that authority. 4. That footage could be fake in that it is from another incident. 5. Let me guess, you view yourself as a "citizen of the world". There is a word for people like you, "traitor". 6. I hope you are betrayed by the very foreign elitists you serve.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Traitor? I never was loyal to the government, so how could I be a traitor to something I never was loyal to in the first place. I would not mind seeing them all dead either. If I was in charge, there would be a house cleaning of Biblical Proportions. "Spare the sheep and kill the wolves" would be my motto. You would make my target list simply because you are loyal to the murderers, or you are a murderer yourself. One is just as bad as the other. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Neither was I, though I am loyal to this nation's people and the U.S. Constitution. You on the other hand serve foreign elitists in an agenda to destroy this nation. That is what makes you a traitor.
I can see he got in under my radar. Bozo is nice.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Sorry, C. That's where the US military is now. It's full of welfare queens and other sociopaths.
If I'm not mistaken, after WWI and Wilson's failed attempt to ensnare US into the League of Nations, we dismantled our standing army. In place of the Doughboys was a home civilian defense force and an isolationist foreign policy. FDR changed that when he purposefully ignored the events and intercepted intelligence leading up to WWII. America has been an interventionist nation since.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Take time to look at the ad and identify who you see. All are kids, enlisted peons, grunts and, by the way, there aren't any rich kids in the advertisement. In addition, there are no generals or admirals shown, who, along with our elected officials in D.C., are the ones responsible for policy making. While you all point your fingers at the welfare recipients, remember, they are risking their "worthless lives" for $26,000 a year!!! I suggest you take a few minutes to seriously consider what has been posted here. If you don't recognize it as being the work of the far left, then I understand why the socialists have gained so much in such a short time. I signed up on this website with the understanding that it was a "conservative forum". This thread and the following posts to it tell me that is either not the case, or those participating are too stupid to know what they are looking at. Before I sign off, however, let me point out that all the positive events and opportunities coming from this republic were paid for by many, many lives of those in the military. For all of you to write such thoughtless and senseless vomit is not only disappointing, but a perfect example of the dramatic success of the tactics of those on the left. By the way ... while all you bastards are keeping yourselves busy complaining, name calling and acting cowardly, those volunteer "welfare troops" are all that keep us from having a draft that would include your kids, your grandchildren, et al. I'll bet your damned tunes would change if and when that happens.
Let's just call them what they really are, brainwashed kids with low IQs. They aren't protecting anyone's freedoms including their own. Drafts won't work anymore, too many people know the truth about the real controllers of this nation to tolerate it, that's why we haven't had one. This nation is ripe for revolution, the elite may be evil bastards, but they aren't dumb enough to poke a stick at a sleeping lion that is having a nightmare and could wake up at any time.
God is always good!
Our military protects us from the threat of armed invasion every minute of every day just by their existence and preparedness. What else do you want them to do to "earn their keep"? Clinton's Zio-Warfare Queen -- Sec. of State, Madeline Albright -- thought they weren't "worth it" unless they could be made to go to war abroad more often for Imperialists like her. Are any of the belligerents who want them to stand down, or don't even want them to come back, ready to do their job here at home for them with the same level of readiness? I doubt it. So much more cathartic and less like work to simply spit venom in all their directions, while doing little more themselves to rescue America from the clutches of tyranny other than bellyaching about the dreadful state this country has fallen into.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The time for military worship in America is over. Our military is now a liability, financially and otherwise. If anyone was offended by the graphic at the top of the page, too bad. "There are instruments so dangerous to the rights of the nation and which place them so totally at the mercy of their governors that those governors, whether legislative or executive, should be restrained from keeping such instruments on foot but in well-defined cases. Such an instrument is a standing army." -Thomas Jefferson
No they don't. Armed Mexicans have been pouring across the border and they aren't all coming for jobs. Many come to steal, rape, and kill. The US military is the last thing on their minds. They know they are a paper tiger as most the world does now.
God is always good!
I'm not worshipping the military, bluegrass, nor do I think they're all faultless. I'm just not under the illusion, like those who detest them so are, that we don't need them anymore. I see vultures who want them all dead at the hands of others as not much different than the alleged "murderous" they are sanctimoniously decrying except that they are more like the demented image of Israel and its cohorts calling for others to kill their enemies for them. Why is it only in America, which has so much to lose without military protection, that the guards are slammed -- even by heads of state like Albright -- as not productive enough if they are doing their jobs so well that the nation is at peace and also slammed as a total liability in times of war? I don't know of any other nation that is so extremely inimical to its own protectors no matter what they do or not. Communists are probably cheering, "Way to go! Keep up the good work for us," but not me.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The keywords were "armed invasion"- by countries like China and Russia that would likely move in as fast as they could with their militaries if we had no military to deter them. Even some of our supposed allies would maybe join them for a portion of the plunder. The military doesn't have the luxury of analyzing politics like we do. Taking it upon themselves to decide to act unilaterally here isn't their job. In fact, it would be called a military coup if they did so and even you might agree that could possibly make some bad situations worse here, depending on whatever mood they were in at the moment. Civilians are responsible for policing the "government". Like it or not, "regime change" and holding UnConstitutional rogues to account is our job and not theirs unless they are called to defend us from being attacked in that process.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The Obama administration once again is troubled and "frustrated" by Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who reportedly is threatening to align with the Taliban while accusing the United States of meddling in his country's affairs. Personally, I wouldn't suggest that anyone volunteer to fight for the "liberation" of Afghanistan. Many are there for all the wrong reasons and could easily educate themselves by using their computers for things other than porn. For Karzai to tell Obama he's "threatening to align with the Taliban" is all any kid needs to know that their life is being played with. If Obama won't show them his birth certificate, I wouldn't lend Him my allegiance.
Phant and Cyni, with all due respect, and I hope you know that I do respect you immensely, I feel that the issue here is not what one may feel about the military or any other topic for that matter, but rather the allowance of expression of opinion. If I may, I'll refer to my Free Speech policy and hope that you understand my position as far as 4um's owner. Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations. Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.
Pentagon is the Department of War, not Defense Today, the U.S. is responsible for 40% of all worldwide weapons? sales. Tanks, fighter jets, artillery, helicopters, missiles, landmines, machine guns, mortars, bullets, grenades, guns, you name it, Guns?R?U.S. has it. Our nation supplies the world in instruments of death. The United States? Military Industrial Complex makes a killing from death, suffering and destruction. It exists only if people die. Its signature is everywhere; in the millions of landmines buried worldwide and the millions of amputee victims, many of them children. It can be seen in civil wars that ravage the developing world, from Africa to Asia to Latin America. From sea to shining sea, our weapons we can see, from the exponentially growing threat of WMDs ? many of which were distributed at one time by our own government ? to the military hardware of tyrants and dictators, war criminals and warlords. The MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX?S front for assuring continual human violence is the US government, the Pentagon in particular. President Bush has just granted the Pentagon a military budget of $400 billion dollars for the next fiscal year. That?s $400,000,000,000.00. With so much of our money going to the Department of War one has to wonder where our priorities are; Certainly not in education, healthcare or in the creation of jobs. The Pentagon and the Military Industrial Complex are one and the same; having morphed over time to form the most lethal killing institution the world has ever seen. Through a sliding and revolving door that turns citizen soldiers into armament industry executives and company officers into military policy makers, the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX has embedded itself into the military branch of the US government, thereby assuring itself of unlimited contracts, access, information and profit. Military industry executives and lobbyists have also slithered deep into top administration positions, occupying vitally important posts that decide national and foreign policy. Ex top government officials now sit on boards of today?s biggest suppliers of military might. One need only look to the Carlyle Group to find the marriage between government and MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. George Bush the First had until recently sat on the board of this powerful yet clandestine group. This intertwined dancing tango of cronyism is exactly what Eisenhower warned about. Like a virus MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX has spread itself throughout the hallways of the Pentagon, penetrating from top to bottom through the disease called greed. Now one and the same, the Pentagon and MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX have a common interest, motive and ability to shape how funds are used and wars are waged. The Pentagon is the Department of War, not Defense. It is in business to kill, kill, and kill some more. Without war, violence and weapons there is no Pentagon. And so to survive, to remain a player, wars must be created, weapons must be allocated, profits must be made and the Military Industrial Complex must continue exporting and manufacturing violence and conflict throughout the globe. And, as always, enemies must exist, if we have no enemies we must create them. The so-called "War on Terror" is but a charade, a fear-engendering escapade, designed to last into perpetuity, helping guarantee that the Military Industrial Complex will grow exponentially in power. It is a replacement for a Cold War long ago since retired and unable to deliver a massive increase in defense spending. So you see it?s not oil, terrorism or communism that we are fighting for. Call it anything you want, the bottom line is Military Industrial Complex need's WAR.
Hey, don't disparage the Department of War. The Department of War initiated not one war, and served only as a defensive organization. It won every war it was tasked to conduct, and did not pussyfoot around with politicians. The Department of Defense, however, has initiated several conflicts that had nothing to do with defense, and has not technically won any but one of them (Grenada), and is famous for being a fully political driven machine. The Department of War does not exist any longer. The Department of Defense, however, still does, and is still doing the bad things that it has done since its inception.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I used to believe that myself. However, after much study and reasoning I've got a little different take on the Revolution. It may well have been that the colonial elites wanted to take the turf over from King George. The whiskey rebellion showed the FFs true colors.
Good points and nearly 100% correct but, for the record: William_W._Belknap [Grant's Secretary of War]: was the only Cabinet secretary ever to have been impeached by the United States House of Representatives. [sic] He was impeached by a unanimous vote of the House of Representatives shortly after he had resigned for allegedly having received money in return for post tradership appointments.[2] Speaker of the House Michael C. Kerr wrote to the Senate that Belknap resigned "with intent to evade the proceedings of impeachment against him."[3] Belknap was tried by the Senate, which ruled by a vote of 37-29 that it had jurisdiction despite the resignation.[4] The vote on conviction fell short of the two-thirds required, with 35 to 37 votes for each article and 25 votes against each. Two of those voting for conviction, 22 of those voting for acquittal, and one who declined to vote, said they felt that the Senate did not have jurisdiction due to Belknap's resignation.[5] Belknap moved to Philadelphia, then returned to Washington to resume the practice of law. >> Should have been convicted, imo. Incidently, it's important to note from this case that not only can more officials than Presidents and judges be impeached but being out of office is no protection from impeachment for GW Bush, et al.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
what do you mean?
We already have a draft. It's called "unemployment". AFA "acting cowardly", it does take immense bravery to gun down defenseless people, and have fun while doing it. That's sarcasm, in case you are unusually dense.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or The Carlyle Group's founder is a Jew. Eisenhower may have been a Jew, too. Just FYI for readers. The disastrous Normandy landing is a major example of why I don't think all that highly of him. While his comments about the Military Industrial Complex sound good, what did he ever do to reign it in? Nothing much that I know of -- except not giving England, France, and Israel a green flag on taking over the Suez Canal, where they would likely have been in the market for even more weaponry -- and there are some examples that point to his complicity in the expansion of the Military Industrial Complex. Let's not forget, either, that he is the President who put us in Viet Nam. I'm not against a worldwide ban on all weapons exporting but what should we do in the present without that? Others are also busily arming the world. Do we want to be in the business of offering protection to all coutries without the means to build or purchase their won weapons of self-defense? I don't.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
OK This poster is a high school shill.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" ROGER THAT.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" But no $$$ for public health care. (I know there are many realistic problems, with this)
"Satan / Cheney in "08" This poster is a high school shill. Wrong and nonsensical, "Agent 007".
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I know the answer to this one! 'No'.
but I can't think of an example later than the revolutionary war.
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
#8. To: Esso, christine (#4)
#9. To: bluegrass, all (#0)
CHIMPOUT!
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#10. To: bluegrass, christine (#0)
#11. To: Esso (#4)
#12. To: PSUSA (#9)
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They're murderers. And rapists. And general thugs.
#13. To: PaulCJ (#12)
Those who accuse the military of such crimes are usually guilty of committing, or supporting, one or more of those three crimes.
CHIMPOUT!
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#14. To: PSUSA (#13)
#15. To: Eric Stratton (#14)
I know many in the military who are sick and tired of going over there and do not believe in what we are doing there. You should cut them some slack. Many try to leave the military but cannot.
CHIMPOUT!
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#16. To: PSUSA (#13)
1. Yeah right.
#17. To: PSUSA (#15)
#18. To: PaulCJ (#16)
Let me guess, you view yourself as a "citizen of the world". There is a word for people like you, "traitor".
CHIMPOUT!
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#19. To: PSUSA (#18)
I never was loyal to the government,
#20. To: Eric Stratton (#14)
First, PaulCJ is 100% pure neocon dunce and is on my bozo here, one of the few. So just a clue, but you're wasting your time there.
CHIMPOUT!
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#21. To: PSUSA (#20)
#22. To: Cynicom (#5)
Bum post blue.
#23. To: Eric Stratton (#7)
Prior to WWII the U.S. had the 17th largest military in the world, hardly huge or empire oriented.
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
#25. To: bluegrass and all others who agree (#0)
First ... the freaking "advertisement" on this thread and, second, all the unintelligent responses thereafter.
#26. To: Phant2000 (#25)
By the way ... while all you bastards are keeping yourselves busy complaining, name calling and acting cowardly, those volunteer "welfare troops" are all that keep us from having a draft that would include your kids, your grandchildren, et al. I'll bet your damned tunes would change if and when that happens.
#27. To: bluegrass (#0)
#28. To: Phant2000, GreyLmist, Cynicom, christine, Jethro Tull (#25)
#29. To: GreyLmist (#27)
Our military protects us from the threat of armed invasion every minute of every day just by their existence and preparedness.
#30. To: bluegrass (#28)
#31. To: RickyJ (#29)
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#32. To: bluegrass, all (#28)
#33. To: Phant2000, Cynicom (#25)
I signed up on this website with the understanding that it was a "conservative forum". This thread and the following posts to it tell me that is either not the case, or those participating are too stupid to know what they are looking at.
#34. To: GreyLmist, All (#31)
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread38713/pg1
#35. To: christine (#34)
#36. To: Esso (#4)
That's what I was thinking. I'm no historian, but I can't think of an example later than the revolutionary war.
#37. To: SonOfLiberty (#35)
#38. To: hangman (#36)
The whiskey rebellion showed the FFs true colors.
#39. To: Phant2000, all, all military ass kissers (#25)
By the way ... while all you bastards are keeping yourselves busy complaining, name calling and acting cowardly, those volunteer "welfare troops" are all that keep us from having a draft that would include your kids, your grandchildren, et al. I'll bet your damned tunes would change if and when that happens.
CHIMPOUT!
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#40. To: christine (#34)
#41. To: GreyLmist (#40)
The disastrous Normandy landing is a major example of why I don't think all that highly of him.
#42. To: christine (#34)
Pentagon is the Department of War, not Defense
#43. To: christine (#34)
?s $400,000,000,000.00. With so much of our money going to the Department of War one has to wonder where our priorities are; Certainly not in education, healthcare or in the creation of jobs.
#44. To: tom007 (#41)
OK
#45. To: bluegrass (#0)
Are you in the US military?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
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