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Title: Parting Company
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URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/Walt ... ams/2010/04/07/parting_company
Published: Apr 7, 2010
Author: Walter E. Williams
Post Date: 2010-04-07 07:25:59 by Eric Stratton
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Parting Company Here's the question asked in my September 2000 column titled "It's Time To Part Company": "If one group of people prefers government control and management of people's lives and another prefers liberty and a desire to be left alone, should they be required to fight, antagonize one another, risk bloodshed and loss of life in order to impose their preferences or should they be able to peaceably part company and go their separate ways?" The problem that our nation faces is very much like a marriage where one partner has broken, and has no intention of keeping, the marital vows. Of course, the marriage can remain intact and one party tries to impose his will on the other and engage in the deviousness of one-upsmanship. Rather than submission by one party or domestic violence, a more peaceable alternative is separation. I believe we are nearing a point where there are enough irreconcilable differences between those Americans who want to control other Americans and those Americans who want to be left alone that separation is the only peaceable alternative. Just as in a marriage, where vows are broken, our human rights protections guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution have been grossly violated by a government instituted to protect them. The Democrat-controlled Washington is simply an escalation of a process that has been in full stride for at least two decades. There is no evidence that Americans who are responsible for and support constitutional abrogation have any intention of mending their ways. You say, "Williams, what do you mean by constitutional abrogation?" Let's look at just some of the magnitude of the violations. Article I, Section 8 of our Constitution lists the activities for which Congress is authorized to tax and spend. Nowhere on that list is authority for Congress to tax and spend for: prescription drugs, Social Security, public education, farm subsidies, bank and business bailouts, food stamps and other activities that represent roughly two-thirds of the federal budget. Neither is there authority for congressional mandates to the states and people about how they may use their land, the speed at which they can drive, whether a library has wheelchair ramps and the gallons of water used per toilet flush. The list of congressional violations of both the letter and spirit of the Constitution is virtually without end. Our derelict Supreme Court has given Congress sanction to do anything upon which they can muster a majority vote. James Madison, the acknowledged father of the Constitution, explained in Federalist Paper No. 45: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." Americans who wish to live free have several options. We can submit to those who have constitutional contempt and want to run our lives. We can resist, fight and risk bloodshed and death in an attempt to force America's tyrants to respect our liberties and human rights. We can seek a peaceful resolution of our irreconcilable differences by separating. Some independence movements, such as our 1776 war with England and our 1861 War Between the States, have been violent, but they need not be. In 1905, Norway seceded from Sweden; Panama seceded from Columbia (1903), and West Virginia from Virginia (1863). Nonetheless, violent secession can lead to great friendships. England is probably our greatest ally. The bottom-line question for all of us is: Should we part company or continue trying to forcibly impose our wills on one another? My preference is a restoration of the constitutional values of limited government that made us a great nation. Poster Comment: The Democrat-controlled Washington is simply an escalation of a process that has been in full stride for at least two decades. I guess that Democrats and Republicans alike are now simply called Democrats. /s
Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, April 07, 2010
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Well, except regulate the amount of money corporations can spend to inluence our elections. (ref: Citizens United v. Federal Election Commision) Otherwise, another great article by Williams -- except I think we should stop calling the UnConstitutional control freaks "Americans". They have already essentially seceeded from America's real system of government and should have to change their name instead of masquerading as us and trying to make us liable for their debts and wrongful actions.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Parting company would be ideal. There's no "America" left that I for one wish to preserve. The control freaks stole our honor, our integrity, our heritage of honest and peaceful coexistence and most importantly our liberty (as defined by the founding fathers). All that remains are the symbols that are being increasingly co-opted in full, if they aren't already, and nothing else. Now that the cat is out of the bag on control, it seems to me that a real divide has occurred with neocon/progressives on one side, and the not so small libertarian remnants (little "L") on the other side. By little "L" libertarian I mean those who are the ideological descendents of the renaissance/age of reason who are the last representatives of our common law heritage and commonly understood historical "British" or Anglo-Saxon/Celtic liberties. We're not represented by either "side" of the statist coin, all we want is to be left alone to live and let live. They won't let us alone though, so now a huge and vocal divide is forming that promises not so distant future violence. Peaceful separation is our only hope of not turning into a super power sized 1990's Yugoslavia.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Professor Williams hits another one out of the park.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. If there were a Constitutional jurisdiction it would be identified by an economy operated using Gold and Silver coin as is plainly stated in the constitution. It's called "choice of law" and unless specifically stated otherwise the monetary instrument determines the law. Constitutional (common-law) law or "the" law of the land requires a land based monetary vehicle like a gold or silver coin. The usage of commercial paper, ie., FRNs are legal fictions that abrogate constitutional law and operate in a different jurisdiction. This is a commercial jurisdiction and everything in it is based upon legal fiction.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY." Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.
www.usconstitution.net/const .html#Am5 Excerpt from Article I, Section 10: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts >> No state can make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts but We the People can and we can also build our own economy of Constitutionalists Only transacting amongst ourselves in a private club of sorts, with no debt involved -- abolish Keynesian econimcs in our bylaws and throw out the whole debt based system of "valuation". We could implement a time invested system of self-employment and mutual exchange that increases our self- sufficiency, production, and the value of everything improved by our efforts.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
In effect, that's what "they" did in the opposite direction. The created a fictional jurisdiction operating under contract/commercial law, that is THEIR OWN PRIVATE SYSTEM. Their private system does not recognize any other system and if we're in it it is by voluntary compliance through agreement.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY." Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.
Nice thought, anyways.
neocon - Israel = "libertarian" anti-white
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
I'm with you on this. But we have to call them something...lets see. Hmmmmm,,, I've got it! We'll call them traitors!! Hows that suit ya?
"The all Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing". Herger the Joyous
I like "occupying forces" more than anything else. They're clearly not of American thought or philosophy. They are the enemy, and the enemy in your capitol is an occupying force.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Violence is inevitable in my opinion. What may start as peaceful protest will escalate into something very bad. This gov will not allow people to opt out of it's programs. Eventually protesters will be met with force. In this case the type of people that are protesting are the same with conviction, and the spirit of true Americans. Gov force applied to these people will not be met with a meager response. And if faced with this situation many will see what they need to do. IMO.
"The all Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing". Herger the Joyous
I'm easy, I can roll anyway you want on this. But they claim to be Americans. This is why I lean toward traitor.Just one humble opinion in a sea of many.
"The all Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing". Herger the Joyous
This gov will not allow people to opt out of it's programs. Eventually protesters will be met with force. In this case the type of people that are protesting are the same with conviction, and the spirit of true Americans. Gov force applied to these people will not be met with a meager response. And if faced with this situation many will see what they need to do. IMO. That's probably so. And I think that you're right. It's one thing to machine gun down a bunch of unarmed hippies throwing bricks. It's quite another to come up against 80+ million people, well armed and well practiced in the use of their arms, who don't cotton to being pushed around. It's important though, that we do not initiate anything and do not start anything (though they'll try to convince us that we did, they're evil and demons IMO). Peaceful means should always be tried unto exhaustion. If they want to push violence, then we go to plan B, but not a moment sooner.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I'll have to research Herger, but whoever he was, dude nailed it.
I absolutely agree. The moment will come soon enough. I am holding out hope since folks are becoming engaged. But I've been screaming this crap for 30 years. When it comes down to what I must do, well lets just say I've never been afraid to go it alone.
"The all Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing". Herger the Joyous
I'm glad you like that. Quite fond of it myself. Came from the movie the 13th warrior.
"The all Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing". Herger the Joyous
Thank you, Eric.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I like "occupying forces" more than anything else. They're clearly not of SonOfLiberty: American thought or philosophy. They are the enemy, and the enemy in your capitol is an occupying force. phantom patriot: I'm easy, I can roll anyway you want on this. But they claim to be Americans. This is why I lean toward traitor.Just one humble opinion in a sea of many. Traitorous occupying forces should do until they pick a name for themselves besides American. The quicker they do that the better for them so they can stop accumulating more and more traitorous charges against them.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
i guess it would be best to surrender to israel and be done with it. the american media could propagandize americans to support israel, we could ship billions of dollars to israel every year, and ship more billions to israel's enemies so they wont attack israel. we can surrender control of the american congress to israel, and we can send our armies to the middle east to protect israel. we can concentrate on grabbing enough oil so we can continue to protect israel, and we can start wars on pipeline routes that would have given our energy rivals access to persian gulf energy... a situation that's intolerable since that energy would allow those rivals to resist israeli american benevolent global hegemony. . oh, wait...
noone222: In effect, that's what "they" did in the opposite direction. The created a fictional jurisdiction operating under contract/commercial law, that is THEIR OWN PRIVATE SYSTEM. Their private system does not recognize any other system and if we're in it it is by voluntary compliance through agreement. I agree that they created a fictional jurisdiction that is their own private system. I disagree that we are all in it voluntarily, although they might be under the delusion that we are. There is something called Informed Consent and also Coercion that can invalidate many of their delusions of grandeur and notions of "volunteerism". Anyone who wants to stay in their system could volunteer to do so because enslaving them to ours would be illegal -- but they can't take America's name with them. That belongs to Constitutionalists. So, what do you think about a private trading club for us? I think it could help alot during these times of economic famine from their saboteurs.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Glad you snapped out of that nightmare before I had to find a picture of water to throw on you.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
that sounds not-so-pretty-good. in the meantime, are you agreed that the most immediate problem is our alliance with israel, and zionist control of our media and congress? or are you unwilling to acknowledge that those unnamed "traitorous occupying forces" you're so concerned about are not really so nameless, after all?
is this dated today? it seems like i remember reading this commentary from WW years ago when i believed it might be possible. it's a lofty idea, parting company, but one that i believe now will never happen.
At this time I'd say it's the ONLY option. Look, we're either going to take up for ourselves with the possibility of failure looming, or remain loyal to the current system which is DESIGNED to insure our absolute failure. The congress actually should revert to creating non- interest bearing TREASURY NOTES and eliminate the private FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM as we know it. Some of the infrastucture should be kept such as check clearing houses, but the idea of paying interest to private bankers rather than to ourselves is preposterous. Taken to the logical conclusion, we must either produce goods that the world has a use or need for or we completely revamp the economy and base it upon pursuit of some other goal that gives purpose to the creation of currency. If we accept that some entity built the pyramids we can also assume that project drove the economy for a very long time. Bill Hicks mentions exploration of space as an alternative to a war economy and maybe that's what Kennedy had in mind. The only thing really necessary is a mutual consent to valuate currency so that its use is beneficial to the free exchange of goods and services. We've been in a trance for a very long time. We've accepted a war economy (sort of) pushed upon us by a very small but well organized group of narcissists and psychopaths that apparently reached their belief system through the IVY League educational system. It's very obvious to me that we have mistaken an IVY LEAGUE education for righteous intentions, statesmanship and good will. No one that's in control of their system is going to do this for us . They've made their choice and now we must make ours if only we can break free from our indoctrination / conditioning into acceptance, even if begrudgingly, of their usurious criminal fraud.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY." Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
I can certainly settle for that.
"The all Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing". Herger the Joyous
I guess that Democrats and Republicans alike are now simply called Democrats. /s Exposes Walt for the partisan shill that he is. A fill in for Rush, says it all.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
And that is and has been one of their intentions. You have to realize and really get that a lot of what is being done is part of a much larger psychological/psychiatric conditioning program. You can find it directly in their writings - more commonly before the 1960's when they started to clam up and keep their intentions more veiled, but the quotes are there when you dig them out. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
who are these "control freaks"? and why are you afraid to name them?
Ye may know them by their works. The data is there - look at WHO ran MK-Ultra. Look at WHO is atop the financial/Banking pyramid. The usual suspects Banksters and Psychiatrists. Dig into it - there is a lot of there, there.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Look at WHO is atop the financial/Banking pyramid. The usual suspects Banksters and Psychiatrists. is this another chemtrail? you cant bring yourself to admit that the israelis and israeli americans want more war, this time with iran. you cant bring yourself to admit that, when hormuz is closed by a war with iran, the price of oil will skyrocket, and the american economy, which is terminally wounded already, will collapse. you cant bring yourself to admit that the most immediate problem is israel. why is that?
do you think that all this dithering about attacking iran is american dithering? of course it isnt. it just so happens that are sane factions in israel, and that's where the real debate is taking place. israeli technocrats and psychohistorians think israeli america will survive $8 gas, the realists know that america is so fucked up by the wars and the looters that $8 gas will kill israel's life support system.
and it always comes down to the same old question: how many of these warmongering israelis and israeli americans are actually looters, using israel and the holyhoax as cover, who will play the game until it's time to load up the gulfstream and fly off to paradise?
why is that? Oh, spare me. My posting history is an open book. While I do not espouse hate of anyone, even if they have earned it, I am NOT an apologist for Israeli criminality as my record clearly shows. Please post a link to ANY post I have made in support of Israeli War Crimes, their being the Middle Eastern Nexus of the White Slave Trade, etc., .... However, to some degree that is an aside, yes "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
so the rothschilds want war with iran, and have foxed the israelis and israeli americans into fronting for them. very good.
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#2. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
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Our derelict Supreme Court has given Congress sanction to do anything upon which they can muster a majority vote.
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#4. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
Lord Acton
#5. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
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Nowhere on that list is authority for Congress to tax and spend for: prescription drugs, Social Security, public education, farm subsidies, bank and business bailouts, food stamps and other activities that represent roughly two-thirds of the federal budget. Neither is there authority for congressional mandates to the states and people about how they may use their land, the speed at which they can drive, whether a library has wheelchair ramps and the gallons of water used per toilet flush. The list of congressional violations of both the letter and spirit of the Constitution is virtually without end. Our derelict Supreme Court has given Congress sanction to do anything upon which they can muster a majority vote.
#6. To: noone222 (#5)
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#7. To: GreyLmist (#6)
No state can make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts but We the People can and we can also build our own economy of Constitutionalists Only transacting amongst ourselves in a private club of sorts, with no debt involved
#8. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
Rather than submission by one party or domestic violence, a more peaceable alternative is separation.
#9. To: GreyLmist (#2)
#10. To: SonOfLiberty, All, *9-11* (#3)
#11. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#8)
#12. To: GreyLmist (#2)
Otherwise, another great article by Williams -- except I think we should stop calling the UnConstitutional control freaks "Americans". They have already essentially seceeded from America's real system of government and should have to change their name instead of masquerading as us and trying to make us liable for their debts and wrongful actions.
#13. To: phantom patriot (#12)
#14. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)
They won't let us alone though, so now a huge and vocal divide is forming that promises not so distant future violence.
#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)
I like "occupying forces" more than anything else. They're clearly not of American thought or philosophy. They are the enemy, and the enemy in your capitol is an occupying force.
#16. To: phantom patriot (#14)
Violence is inevitable in my opinion. What may start as peaceful protest will escalate into something very bad.
#17. To: phantom patriot (#15)
#18. To: SonOfLiberty (#16)
It's important though, that we do not initiate anything and do not start anything (though they'll try to convince us that we did, they're evil and demons IMO). Peaceful means should always be tried unto exhaustion. If they want to push violence, then we go to plan B, but not a moment sooner.
#19. To: Lod (#17)
I'll have to research Herger, but whoever he was, dude nailed it.
#20. To: Eric Stratton (#9)
Outstanding point!
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#22. To: GreyLmist (#21)
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Traitorous occupying forces should do until they pick a name for themselves
#23. To: groundresonance (#22)
bump this.
#24. To: noone222 (#7)
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Me: No state can make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts but We the People can and we can also build our own economy of Constitutionalists Only transacting amongst ourselves in a private club of sorts, with no debt involved
#25. To: groundresonance (#22)
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oh, wait...
#26. To: GreyLmist (#25)
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a pitcure of water
#27. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
#28. To: GreyLmist (#24)
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what do you think about a private trading club for us?
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#30. To: GreyLmist (#21)
Traitorous occupying forces should do until they pick a name for themselves besides American. The quicker they do that the better for them so they can stop accumulating more and more traitorous charges against them.
#31. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
The Democrat-controlled Washington is simply an escalation of a process that has been in full stride for at least two decades.
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#33. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)
Parting company would be ideal. There's no "America" left that I for one wish to preserve. The control freaks stole our honor, our integrity, our heritage of honest and peaceful coexistence and most importantly our liberty (as defined by the founding fathers). All that remains are the symbols that are being increasingly co-opted in full, if they aren't already, and nothing else.
"...the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology.... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise." The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell
"Most of the almost innumerable books, pamphlets, and other publications issued by the sponsors of the mental health program are purposely and craftily disingenuous, disguising its real and ultimate purpose: ... the ultimate reduction of every individual in this world, except the favored few who conceive of themselves as possessed of an incomparable genius in their ability to direct the affairs of others, into... a common servile obeisance to his master, the State...." Mental Robots, by Dr. Lewis Albert Alesen
"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our Founding Fathers, toward his parents, toward our elected officials, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's up to you, teachers, to make all of these sick children well by creating the international child of the future." Chester Pierce, (Past President of the American Board of Psychiatry and one of the Psychiatrists who worked on MK Ultra the CIA's Mind Control Program) Harvard University to a 1973 Education Seminar in Denver.
#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)
control freaks
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#36. To: Original_Intent (#35)
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The data is there - look at WHO ran MK-Ultra.
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#39. To: groundresonance (#36)
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you cant bring yourself to admit that the most immediate problem is israel.
Israel Sodom and Gomorrah is a cesspool, however anyone who thinks Israel runs the show needs to do more homework. Israel is nothing more than an extension of the House of Rothschild which is centered in the Banking District of London. That is London ENGLAND.
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House of Rothschild
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