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Title: The Latest Gold Fraud Bombshell: Canada's Only Bullion Bank Gold Vault Is Practically Empty
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/la ... k-gold-vault-practically-empty
Published: Apr 7, 2010
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2010-04-07 13:25:12 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 584
Comments: 29

Continuing on the trail of exposing what is rapidly becoming one of the largest frauds in commodity markets history is the most recent interview by Eric King with GATA's Adrian Douglas, Harvey Orgen (who recently testified before the CFTC hearing) and his son, Lenny, in which the two discuss their visit to the only bullion bank vault in Canada, that of ScotiaMocatta, located at 40 King Street West in Toronto, and find the vault is practically empty. This is a relevant segue to a class action lawsuit filed against Morgan Stanley, which was settled out of court, in which it was alleged that Morgan Stanley told clients it was selling them precious metals that they would own in full and that the company would store, yet even despite charging storage fees was not in actual possession of the bullion. It appears that this kind of lack of physical holdings by all who claim to have gold in storage, is pervasive as the actual gold globally is held primarily in paper or electronic form.

Lenny Organ who was the person to enter the vault of ScotiaMocatta, says "What shocked me was how little gold and silver they actually had." Lenny describes exactly how much (or little as the case may be) silver was available - roughly 60,000 ounces. As for gold - 210 400 oz bars, 4,000 maples, 500 eagles, 10 kilo bars, 10 one kilogram pieces of gold nugget form, which Adrian Douglas calculates as being $100 million worth, which is just one tenth of what the Royal Mint of Canada sold in 2008, or over $1 billion worth of gold. As Orgen concludes: "The game ends when the people who own all these paper obligations say enough and take physical delivery, and that's when the mess will occur."

Also note the interesting detour into what Stephan Spicer of the Central Fund Of Canada, said regarding his friend at a major bank, who wanted access to his 15,000 oz of silver, and had to wait 6-8 weeks for its to be flown in from Hong Kong.

It is funny that central bankers thought they could take the ponzi mentality of infinite dilution of all assets coupled with infinite debt issuance, as they have done to fiat money, and apply it to gold, in essence piling leverage upon leverage. They underestimated gold holders' willingness to be diluted into perpetuity - when the realization that gold owned is just 1% of what is physically deliverable, you will see the biggest bank run in history.

Link to full Eric King interview. www.kingworldnews.com/kin...e_%26_Adrian_Douglas.html

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#4. To: Horse (#0)

The Jews are looting all the Gold reserves in the world and making tungsten bars with GOLD plating and selling them around the world.

The "Tungsten-Filled Gold Bar" Conspiracy Gets Discussed On CNBC Nov 18, 2009 ... The Chinese uncover gold bars filled with tungsten and it's reported ... Fact: China uncovers massive fraud and makes arrests with in hours
www.businessinsider.com/t...discussed-on-cnbc-2009-11

The IMF sold Gold plated tungsten bars to India ?!?!?! | Ron Paul ... The IMF sold Gold plated tungsten bars to India ?!?!?! Submitted by legalizeliberty on Mon, 12/14/2009 - 10:25
www.dailypaul.com/node/118950

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Itistoolate  posted on  2010-04-07   16:02:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itistoolate (#4)

All this fraud in the gold market will cause gold prices to crash because no one will be able to verify that it is actually gold that it being sold.

The elitists are playing the angles, crash the currencies, the economies, the property values and the precious metals markets.

Of course, by creating a world of "have nots" the elitists setting themselves up to be plucked like a geese.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-04-07   16:17:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PaulCJ, 4 (#6)

My take is that it will shoot even higher with the discovery of the even more rarity of real AU.

Lod  posted on  2010-04-07   17:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#9)

My take is that it will shoot even higher with the discovery of the even more rarity of real AU.

Not if its the market that is committing the fraud.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-04-07   18:08:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PaulCJ (#10)

You are dilusional if you think the gold market will crash.

robnoel  posted on  2010-04-07   18:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robnoel (#11)

Hey man, where have you been lately ??? (Missing On 4UM ... I still hear ya on RBN).

That fella named MacGuire (sp) has stirred the manipulation pot just a little hasn't he ? I've listened to several others commenting on the situation as you have as well, and everyone has spoken highly of this guy and all admit he is respected in the metals market.

He sure stuck his neck out there.

Side Note: What's the driving force causing you to remove to Africa ? Are you just homesick or suicidal ???

noone222  posted on  2010-04-07   19:04:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#18)

What's the driving force causing you to remove to Africa ? Are you just homesick or suicidal ???

I guess a little of both....or as someone once said "A safe life is a boring life"

robnoel  posted on  2010-04-07   20:06:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robnoel (#25)

..."A safe life is a boring life"

Move closer to our southern border.

Lod  posted on  2010-04-07   20:10:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Lod (#26)

I'm very close to the southern border...its boring :-)

robnoel  posted on  2010-04-07   20:15:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#28. To: robnoel (#27)

Well whatever you do ... good luck and best wishes !!!

noone222  posted on  2010-04-07 22:17:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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