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Title: Microchipping begins in 36 months/Ad campaign begins NOW
Source: You Tube--News Clip
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq3vtjXEGy8&feature=player_embedded
Published: Apr 11, 2010
Author: Talking Heads
Post Date: 2010-04-11 11:34:30 by abraxas
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Views: 591
Comments: 54

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

Microchipping begins in 36 months

This video said nothing about that. Not one single solitary thing.

Ad campaign begins NOW

This chip has been around for a long time now.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   12:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   12:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This video said nothing about that. Not one single solitary thing.

No, the video does not, but the BILL does. The video is the first of many selling the "need" for the people to comply prior to the three year deadline.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   12:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't want one, then "No soup [healthcare] for you!]

Exactly. I just read about the huge databases underway to store all the info. and goodie for the lot of us the little chip can also hold all of your financial information.

Don't worry, the goobermint wouldn't mess with any of that information to keep a few "radicals" in line.....no way. Trust in the goobermint, they have only your best interests in mind. They couldn't keep our social security numbers secure, but trust them with your health and financial data. This chip is a "life saver" and the charge to sell it hook, line and sinker has been taken up by the MSM far in advance.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   12:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   12:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's one that I remember......Verichip.

With the doctor recommendation at the end.....reminds me of doctor's making commercials for which pack of smokes were the safest and tasted best.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   12:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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Lod  posted on  2010-04-11   13:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   13:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, the video does not, but the BILL does.

No it doesn't.

It is a registry for medical devices. That is what the bill sets up. It says exactly nothing about people being forced to get chipped.

The bill sucks. But don't make up things that aren't there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   13:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The bill sucks. But don't make up things that aren't there.

Who's making anything up? This text caught my attention--

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

Next step, no Obama care for those who do not sign up for the registry and take the class II device. Are you really so naive that you don't see that next step from the language above? This language is stage one, Stevie Wonder could see that.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   13:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How much stock in Verichip do you think that the doctor in that clip owns? It's already increased 186% since the RFID chip implant patent went through. Bumped again, coincidentally of course, since Obama Care passed.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   13:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

I know, I've read this all before.

To me, it means what it says. It's the device that is to be registered, not the people. And there is no "next step".

It has nothing to do with being "naive". It has everything to do with just reading and understanding what it says.

If you're looking for a bill that mandates chipping the population, you need to look elsewhere. This isn't even the slippery slope that could be used later to get people used to the idea of being chipped by more direct means.

There are enough things in this bill that suck. You are being intentionally distracted into looking into things that aren't even there. Concentrate on what actually is there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   13:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   13:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are being intentionally distracted into looking into things that aren't even there. Concentrate on what actually is there.

That IS in the bill as I just posted. Although you find nothing disconcerning in that language, I do.

It wouldn't be the first time that such language was used with a completely different interpretation at the time of implementation, granting far greater powers to the federal government that people initially believed from first reading. This happens time and time again, yet we should trust that the Obama administration will stick to the nebulous interpretation that wouldn't give the federal government more power over the people or more tyranny.

All the ads cheerleading the implants are just coincidence too, not an intential PR campaign to get people to accept the damn chips when the 3 year time limit for enrollment comes aroung.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   14:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   14:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This "health care reform" bill is not about health care. It's about control.

Agreed.

But I reiterate, this bill says nothing about being chipped. It creates a registry of devices.

Actually, I'm surprised that a registry didn't already exist.

I'm not worried about chipping. I know that people will start killing if they try it. They won't dare. It is on par with arms confiscation. Same deal. Trying it is suicidal.

But that is neither here nor there. The bill simply says nothing about chipping. Some people read into it what they want to see, and they base it all on what has been done in the past, both real AND imagined, and the facts be damned.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   14:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

http://jimbonews.blogspot.com/2010/04/microchipping-to-begin-in-36-months.html

The new Health Care Bill, H.R. 3200, just passed by Congress has within it the requirement that all people thereunder shall be microchiped. The plans for this microchipping have been in the hopper going back to December of 2004.

Witness the actual FDA (Food and Drug Administration) document dated December 10, 2004 entitled “Class II Special Guidance Document: Implantable Radiofrequency Transponder System for Patient Identification and Health Information. This ten page document may be read on the FDA website here.

Now witness the wording within H.R. 3200, “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009” found on Congresses’ House Ways and Means website here On page 1001 is “Subtitle C – National Medical Device Registry” which states,

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that … is or has been used in or on a patient…”

In other words, everyone microchipped pursuant to the new Health Care Bill must be registered with the Secretary. The “Secretary” is defined as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

The date by which this registry is to begin is mandated on page 1006, which is 36 months after the Health Bill becomes law.

(2) EFFECTIVE DATE. – The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall establish and begin implementation of the registry under section 519(g) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, as added by paragraph (1) by not later than the date that is 36 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, without regard to whether of not final regulations to establish and operate the registry have been promulgated by such date.

Therefore, under the law of H.R. 3200 recently passed by Congress, microchipping of Americans must begin by the year 2013.

I cite to my often quoted Biblical Scripture in Revelation 13:16 and 17, “And he [the AntiChrist] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

Numerous times I have stated that our current Income Tax system shall be replaced with a tax upon all trade, and that everyone will have automatically deducted from every transaction of buying and selling a tax. But this tax is not the significant part. Along with this government-granted “privilege” of buying and selling, will be the required worship of the Man of Sin, that every knee shall bow and that every tongue shall confess that he is god to the glory of himself. Those refusing shall be certainly executed post haste!

Now you know what is behind the new Health Bill, H.R. 3200.

The National Health ID/Debit section is on page 57. In Table of Contents it is Subdivision A. Title I, Subtitle G- Early Investments. Further it is Sec 163, Administrative Simplification. “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.” There is still time to voice your opposition to these civil right intrusions. Call your Senators and let them know how you feel.

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freepatriot32  posted on  2010-04-11   14:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   14:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   15:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I won't argue that point, but I will add that not as it stands, and not yet. It will be amended like most bills. And this one in spades. NPI

Then wait until the amendment comes out. IMO you and others are jumping the gun here.

You might know more about this law than I do, since I am not exactly well-known for giving a tinkers damn what some .gov maggots thinks they are going to force me to do.

What bothers me about this is that I'm sure that there is so much more to this law that should be exposed, as it is clearly written. Focusing on this non-issue is distracting from what is real and brings it into the tinfoil hat / alex jones disinfo realm.

Concentrate on what is there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I also am not willing to acquiesce to the notion that "it's not in there" w/o carefully scrutinizing exactly what is within the 2,000 pages of that damnable piece o shit. And there's no way on earth that I'm going to waste my time doing that.

Great!

But don't depend on what someone else says about it without checking out that persons allegations for yourself by checking what he says vs. what the bill actually says.

People are playing games with this, and it's not necessary. Not only is it not necessary, it makes them look stupid to people they are trying to convince something is there, when it is not there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   15:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   15:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Way to stay ahead in the game, always make sure that you react and never proact!

You're the ones that are reacting to something that isn't even there. You're not being proactive.

Saying that I don't give a flying fornication about what .gov wants from me is being proactive. I let it be known ahead of time, hence the "pro" prefix of proactive.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're not being proactive.

Being proactive is joining in the "nothing to see here Looky Lou" mantra?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   15:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Dude, did you take your dense pills this a.m. or what?

My mom always said I was a "hard headed Dutchman".

But when there are news stories about how great it is that people will get RFID'd, for "medical/health" purposes only of course because people such as yourself know better than apparently our FedGov has nothing like this planned otherwise, not to mention ads advocating similar by the very fucking companies that are creating the technology to do so, then it's "in play."

News stories? Maybe a few. So what? You can hardly claim it's some kind of organized campaign to get people chipped.

AFA the companies that make them. verichip is selling for about 1.29 per share. www.nasdaq.com/aspx/flash...symbol=PSID&selected=PSID That is hardly impressive.

Honestly, what, do you only leave a burning house once your pants are aflame or what!

If someone shouts FIRE! and there is no smoke or flame, why leave the house? There is no smoke, much less flame, in this story about forced chipping.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Being proactive is joining in the "nothing to see here Looky Lou" mantra?

There is nothing to see here.

How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing here about microchipping citizens, much less a 36 month deadline. The post title is deceptive.

Now did you find anything in that law that stated that this will happen? Anything at all? Maybe there is something there, I really dont know. But what you posted isn't it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is a difference between "being proactive" and "being a jackass."

When I see a headline like "Microchipping begins in 36 months" and see the proposition nowhere addressed upon clicking on the story, I conclude that the poster has no regard for his own credibility or the credibility of the forum he posts on.

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-04-11   16:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah. People are wasting time and effort on nonsense, IMO.

I don't know what people get out of crying "wolf!" like this. One person starts it and others pick it up and run with it, it goes viral, and it's all over nothing.

If there is something to it, then I wish they would post it. But I wont hold my breath. All we get, and you see it said in this thread, is that ".gov did X, Y, and Z in the past, so they are going to _______________ in the future".

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   16:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   17:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   17:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This "health care reform" bill is not about health care. It's about control. Posted by Eric, agreed by PSUSA

There is nothing to see here. (NOTE THAT THIS RESPONSE DOESN'T JIVE WITH YOUR PRIOR AGREEMENT)

First you agree with Eric on the above statement, then you claim that there is nothing to see in the wording of the bill.

How exactly do you envision this "control" that's coming down the pike? And how can you exclude chipping the sheeple as a very effective way to control them? In fact, can you even think of a better way to control people?

The deadline for implementation of the "holding area" for medical (and banking-- but there is no control in taking over people's financial information, nope, nothing to see here) information for people involved in Obama care is 36 months.

I'll return to scratching my head now. : )

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abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   17:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How about some of the big tech dB companies? They have the capability.

Capability? Sure. Just because they are capable of something doesn't mean they are doing it.

Otherwise, if PSID is trading at $2 in the fall it will have been impressive. I'm talking reality, not stocks. Stocks are manipulated.

I dont know much about stocks or the market. But I do know that if this was in the bill, their stock would not be trading at a little over 1 FRN. No way. You cannot manipulate that.

Not really the proper perspective. How many of us "shouted fire" at 9/11? Did any heed? No. Was there a threat? Yes. What happened? The house burned down at the hands of arsonists. (FedGov)

But it is the proper perspective. If someone says one thing, and the facts do not back him or her up, then it is to be disregarded. You can get pulled into a million different directions if you follow these false trails. And this is a false trail.

AFA 9/11 goes, IIRC Cooper specifically predicted it. Right or wrong? I never listened to him and am going off of what I heard. Maybe I heard wrong.

OK. Tell me how many other internet "predictions" given by others did not come to pass?

Granted, no one's yelled "fire" yet mind you. The smart person avoids the situation altogether via vigilance.

Vigilance is commendable. Disregarding facts is not commendable. There is nothing in this bill re: chipping. Period. End of discussion. If there was something to it, it would have been exposed by now, and not just people reading something into this that just isn't there.

But aren't you the one that wants to be proactive? Vigilance is reactive. We're all watching and waiting.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   17:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How exactly do you envision this "control" that's coming down the pike? And how can you exclude chipping the sheeple as a very effective way to control them? In fact, can you even think of a better way to control people?

They are controlling what, 1/7th of the economy? That is what I mean by controlling.

If I was chipped, you couldn't control me. It doesn't take over someones mind. It just holds a X number of digits in memory.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   17:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If I was chipped, you couldn't control me. It doesn't take over someones mind. It just holds a X number of digits in memory.

How would this chip work for whistle blowers? We wouldn't have anymore and nobody would speak against the government--we're talking total control, total capability to track any person at any time 24/7. That's the kind of controlling I'm talking about.

If the chip is connecting with banking, then the goobermint can control who can buy or sell and who cannot buy or sell--that's a lot of power. Check out this ad for the cashless future-- So, if the goobermint can access all your financial records--don't you think that affords them an awful lot of control of people?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   17:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So, if the goobermint can access all your financial records--don't you think that affords them an awful lot of control of people?

They already can, unless you are off the grid or are very careful in how you do things.

You are on a different topic now. Your OP said it was a done deal. The info presented there and elsewhere on this thread did not back that up.

Will they do all this in the future? Maybe. I can see that. But it isn't happening now because of this law.

Tell me, if you were to go to the average man on the street, and try and convince him that this is happening right now, by using the same info you presented, what good would it do? He would only point out to you what I and others have, and that is, again, this law says no such thing.

Now, if/when it happens for real, do you think he will believe you, when you already gave him info that is provably false?

IMO people need to quit crying wolf. It kills a persons credibility. Even though your heart is in the right place, it still helps no one.

And, it cant track people 24/7.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   19:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And, it cant track people 24/7.

Verichip is marketing chipping to children, claiming they could be found if lost or stolen. The chips are already in passports and are being put on license plates--what's the point if not to track down the person or vehicle?

Are you claiming that they are false advertising the capabilities of the chip or that the device could only identify the people and not do any good in locating them?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   19:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

According to this commercial, they can track with the RFID radio tags on the cargo........anywhere/anytime.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   19:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   20:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

According to this commercial, they can track with the RFID radio tags on the cargo........anywhere/anytime.

There are "boxes" mentioned that some companies use to track high value loads. They put them on the trailers and remove them when the load is delivered. I pulled a couple of loads like that, that were especially valuable. But it wasn't a common thing to do.

I dont know if this is what is being referred to on this commercial or not. It's a little vague, not to mention stupid. You can get to Fresno after driving thru ABQ...

There are different kinds of rfid tags. I dont know what kind of tag is being referred to here.

Verichip is marketing chipping to children, claiming they could be found if lost or stolen.

THey market it to pet owners for the same reason. The child has to be found first, then they get the chip info.

Are you claiming that ... that the device could only identify the people and not do any good in locating them?

Yes

I'd wager you anything that when it happens it won't be that company. There are others w/ the same technology and frankly, is it all that tough to do?

A patent would complicate things, wouldn't it? They could license it out to others, but they'd still make money. .

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-12   7:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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