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Title: Microchipping begins in 36 months/Ad campaign begins NOW
Source: You Tube--News Clip
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq3vtjXEGy8&feature=player_embedded
Published: Apr 11, 2010
Author: Talking Heads
Post Date: 2010-04-11 11:34:30 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 608
Comments: 54

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

Microchipping begins in 36 months

This video said nothing about that. Not one single solitary thing.

Ad campaign begins NOW

This chip has been around for a long time now.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#1)

This video said nothing about that. Not one single solitary thing.

No, the video does not, but the BILL does. The video is the first of many selling the "need" for the people to comply prior to the three year deadline.

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   12:35:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: abraxas, all (#4)

No, the video does not, but the BILL does.

No it doesn't.

It is a registry for medical devices. That is what the bill sets up. It says exactly nothing about people being forced to get chipped.

The bill sucks. But don't make up things that aren't there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   13:17:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#10)

The bill sucks. But don't make up things that aren't there.

Who's making anything up? This text caught my attention--

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

Next step, no Obama care for those who do not sign up for the registry and take the class II device. Are you really so naive that you don't see that next step from the language above? This language is stage one, Stevie Wonder could see that.

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   13:32:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: abraxas (#11)

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

I know, I've read this all before.

To me, it means what it says. It's the device that is to be registered, not the people. And there is no "next step".

It has nothing to do with being "naive". It has everything to do with just reading and understanding what it says.

If you're looking for a bill that mandates chipping the population, you need to look elsewhere. This isn't even the slippery slope that could be used later to get people used to the idea of being chipped by more direct means.

There are enough things in this bill that suck. You are being intentionally distracted into looking into things that aren't even there. Concentrate on what actually is there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   13:48:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: PSUSA (#13)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   14:02:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton, abraxas, all (#16)

This "health care reform" bill is not about health care. It's about control.

Agreed.

But I reiterate, this bill says nothing about being chipped. It creates a registry of devices.

Actually, I'm surprised that a registry didn't already exist.

I'm not worried about chipping. I know that people will start killing if they try it. They won't dare. It is on par with arms confiscation. Same deal. Trying it is suicidal.

But that is neither here nor there. The bill simply says nothing about chipping. Some people read into it what they want to see, and they base it all on what has been done in the past, both real AND imagined, and the facts be damned.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   14:29:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA (#17)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   14:55:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton, all (#19)

I won't argue that point, but I will add that not as it stands, and not yet. It will be amended like most bills. And this one in spades. NPI

Then wait until the amendment comes out. IMO you and others are jumping the gun here.

You might know more about this law than I do, since I am not exactly well-known for giving a tinkers damn what some .gov maggots thinks they are going to force me to do.

What bothers me about this is that I'm sure that there is so much more to this law that should be exposed, as it is clearly written. Focusing on this non-issue is distracting from what is real and brings it into the tinfoil hat / alex jones disinfo realm.

Concentrate on what is there.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:09:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#21)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-11   15:17:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#23)

Way to stay ahead in the game, always make sure that you react and never proact!

You're the ones that are reacting to something that isn't even there. You're not being proactive.

Saying that I don't give a flying fornication about what .gov wants from me is being proactive. I let it be known ahead of time, hence the "pro" prefix of proactive.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:22:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#25)

You're not being proactive.

Being proactive is joining in the "nothing to see here Looky Lou" mantra?

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   15:24:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: abraxas (#26)

Being proactive is joining in the "nothing to see here Looky Lou" mantra?

There is nothing to see here.

How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing here about microchipping citizens, much less a 36 month deadline. The post title is deceptive.

Now did you find anything in that law that stated that this will happen? Anything at all? Maybe there is something there, I really dont know. But what you posted isn't it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   15:48:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PSUSA (#28)

This "health care reform" bill is not about health care. It's about control. Posted by Eric, agreed by PSUSA

There is nothing to see here. (NOTE THAT THIS RESPONSE DOESN'T JIVE WITH YOUR PRIOR AGREEMENT)

First you agree with Eric on the above statement, then you claim that there is nothing to see in the wording of the bill.

How exactly do you envision this "control" that's coming down the pike? And how can you exclude chipping the sheeple as a very effective way to control them? In fact, can you even think of a better way to control people?

The deadline for implementation of the "holding area" for medical (and banking-- but there is no control in taking over people's financial information, nope, nothing to see here) information for people involved in Obama care is 36 months.

I'll return to scratching my head now. : )

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   17:34:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: abraxas (#33)

How exactly do you envision this "control" that's coming down the pike? And how can you exclude chipping the sheeple as a very effective way to control them? In fact, can you even think of a better way to control people?

They are controlling what, 1/7th of the economy? That is what I mean by controlling.

If I was chipped, you couldn't control me. It doesn't take over someones mind. It just holds a X number of digits in memory.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   17:50:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PSUSA (#35)

If I was chipped, you couldn't control me. It doesn't take over someones mind. It just holds a X number of digits in memory.

How would this chip work for whistle blowers? We wouldn't have anymore and nobody would speak against the government--we're talking total control, total capability to track any person at any time 24/7. That's the kind of controlling I'm talking about.

If the chip is connecting with banking, then the goobermint can control who can buy or sell and who cannot buy or sell--that's a lot of power. Check out this ad for the cashless future-- So, if the goobermint can access all your financial records--don't you think that affords them an awful lot of control of people?

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   17:57:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#36)

So, if the goobermint can access all your financial records--don't you think that affords them an awful lot of control of people?

They already can, unless you are off the grid or are very careful in how you do things.

You are on a different topic now. Your OP said it was a done deal. The info presented there and elsewhere on this thread did not back that up.

Will they do all this in the future? Maybe. I can see that. But it isn't happening now because of this law.

Tell me, if you were to go to the average man on the street, and try and convince him that this is happening right now, by using the same info you presented, what good would it do? He would only point out to you what I and others have, and that is, again, this law says no such thing.

Now, if/when it happens for real, do you think he will believe you, when you already gave him info that is provably false?

IMO people need to quit crying wolf. It kills a persons credibility. Even though your heart is in the right place, it still helps no one.

And, it cant track people 24/7.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-11   19:06:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: PSUSA (#37) (Edited)

And, it cant track people 24/7.

Verichip is marketing chipping to children, claiming they could be found if lost or stolen. The chips are already in passports and are being put on license plates--what's the point if not to track down the person or vehicle?

Are you claiming that they are false advertising the capabilities of the chip or that the device could only identify the people and not do any good in locating them?

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-11   19:41:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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