This video said nothing about that. Not one single solitary thing.
No, the video does not, but the BILL does. The video is the first of many selling the "need" for the people to comply prior to the three year deadline.
The bill sucks. But don't make up things that aren't there.
Who's making anything up? This text caught my attention--
“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”
Next step, no Obama care for those who do not sign up for the registry and take the class II device. Are you really so naive that you don't see that next step from the language above? This language is stage one, Stevie Wonder could see that.
“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”
I know, I've read this all before.
To me, it means what it says. It's the device that is to be registered, not the people. And there is no "next step".
It has nothing to do with being "naive". It has everything to do with just reading and understanding what it says.
If you're looking for a bill that mandates chipping the population, you need to look elsewhere. This isn't even the slippery slope that could be used later to get people used to the idea of being chipped by more direct means.
There are enough things in this bill that suck. You are being intentionally distracted into looking into things that aren't even there. Concentrate on what actually is there.
This "health care reform" bill is not about health care. It's about control.
Agreed.
But I reiterate, this bill says nothing about being chipped. It creates a registry of devices.
Actually, I'm surprised that a registry didn't already exist.
I'm not worried about chipping. I know that people will start killing if they try it. They won't dare. It is on par with arms confiscation. Same deal. Trying it is suicidal.
But that is neither here nor there. The bill simply says nothing about chipping. Some people read into it what they want to see, and they base it all on what has been done in the past, both real AND imagined, and the facts be damned.
I won't argue that point, but I will add that not as it stands, and not yet. It will be amended like most bills. And this one in spades. NPI
Then wait until the amendment comes out. IMO you and others are jumping the gun here.
You might know more about this law than I do, since I am not exactly well-known for giving a tinkers damn what some .gov maggots thinks they are going to force me to do.
What bothers me about this is that I'm sure that there is so much more to this law that should be exposed, as it is clearly written. Focusing on this non-issue is distracting from what is real and brings it into the tinfoil hat / alex jones disinfo realm.
Way to stay ahead in the game, always make sure that you react and never proact!
You're the ones that are reacting to something that isn't even there. You're not being proactive.
Saying that I don't give a flying fornication about what .gov wants from me is being proactive. I let it be known ahead of time, hence the "pro" prefix of proactive.
Being proactive is joining in the "nothing to see here Looky Lou" mantra?
There is nothing to see here.
How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing here about microchipping citizens, much less a 36 month deadline. The post title is deceptive.
Now did you find anything in that law that stated that this will happen? Anything at all? Maybe there is something there, I really dont know. But what you posted isn't it.
This "health care reform" bill is not about health care. It's about control. Posted by Eric, agreed by PSUSA
There is nothing to see here. (NOTE THAT THIS RESPONSE DOESN'T JIVE WITH YOUR PRIOR AGREEMENT)
First you agree with Eric on the above statement, then you claim that there is nothing to see in the wording of the bill.
How exactly do you envision this "control" that's coming down the pike? And how can you exclude chipping the sheeple as a very effective way to control them? In fact, can you even think of a better way to control people?
The deadline for implementation of the "holding area" for medical (and banking-- but there is no control in taking over people's financial information, nope, nothing to see here) information for people involved in Obama care is 36 months.
How exactly do you envision this "control" that's coming down the pike? And how can you exclude chipping the sheeple as a very effective way to control them? In fact, can you even think of a better way to control people?
They are controlling what, 1/7th of the economy? That is what I mean by controlling.
If I was chipped, you couldn't control me. It doesn't take over someones mind. It just holds a X number of digits in memory.
If I was chipped, you couldn't control me. It doesn't take over someones mind. It just holds a X number of digits in memory.
How would this chip work for whistle blowers? We wouldn't have anymore and nobody would speak against the government--we're talking total control, total capability to track any person at any time 24/7. That's the kind of controlling I'm talking about.
If the chip is connecting with banking, then the goobermint can control who can buy or sell and who cannot buy or sell--that's a lot of power. Check out this ad for the cashless future-- So, if the goobermint can access all your financial records--don't you think that affords them an awful lot of control of people?
So, if the goobermint can access all your financial records--don't you think that affords them an awful lot of control of people?
They already can, unless you are off the grid or are very careful in how you do things.
You are on a different topic now. Your OP said it was a done deal. The info presented there and elsewhere on this thread did not back that up.
Will they do all this in the future? Maybe. I can see that. But it isn't happening now because of this law.
Tell me, if you were to go to the average man on the street, and try and convince him that this is happening right now, by using the same info you presented, what good would it do? He would only point out to you what I and others have, and that is, again, this law says no such thing.
Now, if/when it happens for real, do you think he will believe you, when you already gave him info that is provably false?
IMO people need to quit crying wolf. It kills a persons credibility. Even though your heart is in the right place, it still helps no one.
According to this commercial, they can track with the RFID radio tags on the cargo........anywhere/anytime.
There are "boxes" mentioned that some companies use to track high value loads. They put them on the trailers and remove them when the load is delivered. I pulled a couple of loads like that, that were especially valuable. But it wasn't a common thing to do.
I dont know if this is what is being referred to on this commercial or not. It's a little vague, not to mention stupid. You can get to Fresno after driving thru ABQ...
There are different kinds of rfid tags. I dont know what kind of tag is being referred to here.
Verichip is marketing chipping to children, claiming they could be found if lost or stolen.
THey market it to pet owners for the same reason. The child has to be found first, then they get the chip info.
Are you claiming that ... that the device could only identify the people and not do any good in locating them?
Yes
I'd wager you anything that when it happens it won't be that company. There are others w/ the same technology and frankly, is it all that tough to do?
A patent would complicate things, wouldn't it? They could license it out to others, but they'd still make money. .
PS Apparently you think they're lying, that the technology isn't there, or that our FedGov wouldn't dare force anyone to do this being the bastion of goodness that it is.
I never said that I didn't think the .gov would not try and force this on people. I don't know what they have planned.
I did say that there will be unintended consequences for them if they dare try. My opinion is that this is a non-issue, for that very reason.
They might be evil, but they aren't morons.
All I ever said was that this law and that video did NOT make the case that this is what is happening now. That is not opinion, it is fact. The section of the law quoted is plainly understandable.
I'm not so sure about those "unintended consequences." If we got to where we are now with the sheoples' blessings, and with a good chunk of continued support, and granted, mostly amongst morons which litter this nation, then I wouldn't be so assured of that. While they might not be morons, many Amerikans are. You give far too much credit to a sheople that are all but ready to sheer themselves.
And I think you are giving too much credit to the MSM in their portrayals of sheeple and their alleged super majority. It is an illusion promoted by the MSM.
True, there are some real knuckleheads out there. But there are more on our side than you think, IMO. The majority did not want this law passed. It was rammed down their throats, and they won't forget.
No, again, what's with you and these illogical assumptions.
That means half are not morons. I'd guess that at least 75% of them are gullible and ignorant, largely by design and self-will in voluntarily playing the game that's been set before them.
I never said we were the majority. We never were the majority. The majority never did anything but fuck things up.
No, again, what's with you and these illogical assumptions.
I'm just responding to what you wrote. It was not my "illogical assumption" that this bill has anything to do with chipping people. It was yours and abraxas's.
If all of these people are so bright as you suggest, HTF did we get to where we are today?
I never said they were bright. I said that there are more on our side than you realize. But if all you do is watch the MSM, you won't see that.
I'd guess that at least 75% of them are gullible and ignorant, largely by design and self-will in voluntarily playing the game that's been set before them.
Which leaves about 25% for us. Those are better odds than our founders faced. I'm happy with that number. It's more than enough to get the job done.
My position is that it is coming and is a naturally logical follow-up to the bill.
THat is the position I am arguing against.
I never claimed you said it was in the bill, but you did explicitly agree with the OP in post 42. So, by default, you really do agree that there is something sinister about this law regarding chipping the citizens.
There is nothing about any sinister "logical follow-up to the bill". It's your logic that is faulty, not mine.
It creates a registry for DEVICES, implantable and otherwise. There are many other implantable devices other than RFID chips.
I dont understand what the Big Deal is about this registry of DEVICES that the law sets up. WHy not concentrate on the real bullshit in this law, like the mandatory purchasing of insurance, whether you want to, or can even afford it, or not. Or .gov taking over what, 1/7th of the entire economy when they lose trillions of $$$ from the Pentagon, etc.