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Title: Polish pilot says evidence of intentional blocking of control system
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URL Source: http://www.theflucase.com/index.php ... Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en
Published: Apr 12, 2010
Author: Richard Drozdowicz
Post Date: 2010-04-12 10:58:56 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 280
Comments: 20

Polish pilot says evidence of intentional blocking of control system

"Statement of Richard Drozdowicz,

Aerodynamic Laboratory, Szczecin University of Technology (ZUT)

As a pilot, I think suggested in the media pilot's error is unlikely. For

approach one does not perform any type of strong roll maneuvers or sudden

changes in speed. And the witnesses noticed a strong heel. The pilot

performed routinely additional circles over the airfield to ascertain the

conditions of landing and on this basis, he reasoned decision to land.

It is unlikely that an experienced pilot with another co-pilot get

confused as to the visual assessment of height, even in the event of

failure of equipment, which is also unlikely. It should be noted that the

fog is generally clearing away in daylight and does not constitute a major

barrier to the visual assessment of the conditions for landing.

Circumstances, however, point to a major accident or intentional blocking

of the control system. Such a blockade may be intentionally installed so

that it launched at a release from the chassis or flaps on the line

immediately before landing. When locking flaps or ailerons on a straight

disaster was inevitable, because even the pilot suddenly increasing

sequence, was not able to derive strong tilting heavy machinery, with the

altitude of 50-100 meters and around 260 kmh speed."

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

You know, sometimes bad things just happen. It was foggy, they did try to land 3 times prior and were unable to due to bad conditions and pilot error most likely. The fourth time was the charm.

The Occam Razor assumption would suggest that we can safely go with the actual facts and be safe in our conclusions.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-12   11:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

Top Polish leaders opposing euro and swine flu vaccines wiped out in mysterious plane crash

www.theflucase.com/index....d-news&Itemid=105„1;=en

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-04-12   11:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itistoolate (#2)

And?

You do understand that not every rock has a demon hiding underneath it, right?

Don't get me wrong, as more comes out on this opinions are subject to revision. But at the moment it's pretty clear that what happened was a simple tragedy and waste of life.

My only question is why, oh why, would any "entire government" ride on one aircraft? Hell we don't even let CEO's and VP's ride on the same plane in most private companies, and most government separate out "leaders" onto different flights. If nothing else, Poland has to take this as a learning experience.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-12   11:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

actual facts

They always tell us they've got the "actual facts" after a major hit or false flag, and of course accidents happen.

I just don't think there's a consensus about the "actual facts" right now. We just aren't there yet. Experience dictates that healthy skepticism is always warranted.

First eyewitnesses

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-04-12   11:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)

I know someone that came from the USSR. He told me that plane crashes are routinely used to get rid of 'undesirables'. It is a COMMUNIST country you know, don't you?

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-04-12   11:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#4)

I won't disagree with that, however, the OP was hinting at some rather "already drawn" conclusions.

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly conspiracy theories emerge after *any* tragedy or major event. It's almost like the human mind cannot conceive of chaos at a primal level, that the idea of "unplanned, random, uncontrolled" is utterly alien to most. I'm not entirely certain, but I do believe that this kind of mindset concerns me somewhat.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-12   11:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#5)

So Russia conjured up dense fog did it?

Ok. Carry on.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-12   11:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: randge (#4)

What was up the simulated plane and explosion?

Lod  posted on  2010-04-12   11:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#4)

I just don't think there's a consensus about the "actual facts" right now. We just aren't there yet.

There never will be. When any kind of high profile person dies of unnatural causes, there is always someone who wins, and someone (else) who loses. So with ever present motive leering over any such death, suspicions of foul play will never die.

I agree that Poland erred in packing so many high profile people on one plane. I'm also surprised they did that. That was one of the first things I wondered at when I heard this news.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-04-12   11:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#9)

Perhaps the Polish President was seeking to ensure his safety, believing the Russians didn't have the guts to take out so many Polish leaders.

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-04-12   12:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: DeaconBenjamin (#10)

Perhaps the Polish President was seeking to ensure his safety, believing the Russians didn't have the guts to take out so many Polish leaders.

Doubtful. Poles, being slavs, are not as gullible as Westerners when it comes to this kind of thing. They understand precisely the hard, pragmatic Machiavellian nature of the Russians and other slavic states.

What they don't get, I think, is that conspiracy theory or no, you don't put all of your government on one airplane.

We could only pray for that kind of stupidity in our own government. :)

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-12   12:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#9) (Edited)

Poland erred in packing so many high profile people on one plane

Kaczynski was probably intent on outshining tusk and sikorski, who'd already had a big ceremony with putin at katyn earlier in the week, on april 7... so Kaczynski packed the plane with all the bodies he could round up in an attempt to upstage tusk and sikorski.

Russia's Putin invites Tusk to Katyn massacre event

sikorski is the neocons' annointed aspiring boss of poland... so that adds another interesting possibility for a conspiracy, if you insist on a conspiracy.

so, prime suspects, when you simply gotta have a conspiracy, would be: russians, because Kaczynski was a neocon asshole...

or: israeli american neocons, who want to move their boy up a couple notches in the polakistanian pecking order...

or: sikorski, who's getting antsy to be the big neocon dog in poland... sikorsky, the neocon darling, AEI vet, ex-defense minister and current foreign minister

or: tusk, because Kaczynski was a neocon asshole.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-12   12:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: DeaconBenjamin (#10) (Edited)

most likely, though, it was just an egotistical little runt of a customer pressuring a pilot to do something stupid.

minsk is two hundred miles back down the road... that's half an hour flight time, plus you got to organize the limos for the drive back to smolensk, and that drive back will take four or five hours, maybe more...

so the whole works is shot in the ass if you dont make that landing.

and so the president of poland, dismal little prick that he was, got what was coming to him, and it's a crying shame that he took so many people with him.

i'm speaking as a pilot who's been fired for refusing to commit suicide for customers.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-12   12:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SonOfLiberty, All (#7)

Thursday, April 8, 2010
BLOWBACK: SOROS AND THE CIA CRASH IN KYRGYZSTAN

fpfcaresse5.blogspot.com/...ros-and-cia-crash-in.html

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-04-12   12:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#6)

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly conspiracy theories emerge after *any* tragedy or major event. It's almost like the human mind cannot conceive of chaos at a primal level, that the idea of "unplanned, random, uncontrolled" is utterly alien to most. I'm not entirely certain, but I do believe that this kind of mindset concerns me somewhat.

I'm not paranoid, I'm intolerant of type II errors.

neocon - Israel = "libertarian" anti-white

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-04-12   13:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SonOfLiberty (#3)

My only question is why, oh why, would any "entire government" ride on one aircraft?

Bingo ! That's my question. And I read where the President's twin didn't go on the trip. Was he scheduled to go and then flipped ?

"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

Thomas Jefferson had NO REASON to make this statement -- So I did !!! Doug Scheidt /APRIL 1, 2010 / Year of the 2nd REVOLUTION.

noone222  posted on  2010-04-12   13:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: DeaconBenjamin (#10)

That's too much of a stretch. If he feared for his life from the Ruskies that much, he never would have entered Russia in the first place. And if he felt they wouldn't dare take down so many Polish execs, then he'd start to have to worry as soon as he stepped off the plane.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-04-12   15:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SonOfLiberty (#11)

We could only pray for that kind of stupidity in our own government. :)

great minds... :^)

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-04-12   15:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

You know, sometimes bad things just happen. It was foggy, they did try to land 3 times prior and were unable to due to bad conditions and pilot error most likely. The fourth time was the charm.

The Occam Razor assumption would suggest that we can safely go with the actual facts and be safe in our conclusions.

Yup.

I have no doubt that His Excellency, President Kaczynski was champing at the bit in anticipation of the chance to lash out at The Russians. Nope, he wouldn't have missed it for the world, especially after they excluded him from their ceremony at Katyn. Unfortunately, his eagerness and exercise of raw power coupled with a serious lapse in judgment was his last.

The fact that he didn't hesitate to risk the lives of others is the evidence of his supreme arrogance.

It's happened before when two 747s crashed in The Canary Islands. On that day the darling of The Dutch Airlines, their senior captain and number one training officer (whose photo was even featured in their advertisements) simply didn't want to be delayed, so he took advantage of the language barrier/lack of standardized commands and took off in a heavy fog without clearance from ATC.

The results were grim.

In both disasters their subordinates knew better but did not dare disagree with the giant egos who made the fatal decisions for the other unsuspecting victims.

"I’m not going to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death."_Unknown

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-04-12   17:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SonOfLiberty, Pinguinite (#11)

We could only pray for that kind of stupidity in our own government.

really ;)

christine  posted on  2010-04-12   21:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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