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Title: Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections
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URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Con ... soil-just-before-Nov-elections
Published: Apr 13, 2010
Author: Anthony G. Martin
Post Date: 2010-04-13 18:08:37 by abraxas
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Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections April 13, 5:16 PMC Conservative Examiner Anthony G. Martin n October of this year, one month prior to the November midterm elections, a special army unit known as 'Consequence Management Response Force' will be ready for deployment on American soil if so ordered by the President. (AP Photo/David Longstreath). The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops. According to the Army Times, They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack. The key phrase is 'may be called upon to help with civil unrest.' This afternoon a local radio talk show host reported that he had been in contact with a member of the military. This military source stated that the armed forces have been alerted to the strong possibility that civil unrest may occur in the United States this summer, prior to the midterm elections of 2010. The source described this as 'our long, hot summer of discontent' that could be eerily reminiscent of the summer of 1968 when riots broke out in many of our largest cities. However, the summer of 2010 could well be much worse due to the players involved. In 1968 the major players were war protesters. This time, the outrage simmering beneath the surface of American society involves a broad cross-section of the heartland, and most of them are heavily armed. It is highly unlikely that these citizens would ever initiate armed conflict of any kind. In their view, gun rights are for self-defense--and for defense against tyrannical government, which our Founders regarded as the most dangerous force on earth. However, it has become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an 'incident' that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens' guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it is deemed 'safe' to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote. Tea Party members, for example, have been warned in recent days that members of Andy Stern's SEIU union and members of the organization formerly known as ACORN plan to infiltrate Tea Party gatherings in order to incite some sort of incident that could result in armed conflict. In addition, all indications point to a humiliating defeat for the Democrats and Obama in November. Not only will the House in all likelihood transfer to Republican control, but it is increasingly possible for the Democrats to lose the Senate as well. And there are Leftwing groups in this country that would use whatever means necessary to prevent that from happening. ACORN has already gone underground, changing its name so as to fly beneath the radar screen. How many people will the group register to vote illegally? And with Obama's plan to naturalize between 10 and 20 million illegal aliens, a brand new voter base for the Democrats will be in place prior to November. Add to this the growing unrest over continued high unemployment, the coming spike in interest rates and inflation, and the still-boiling outrage over the manner in which Obama and the Democrats shoved ObamaCare down the throats of the citizens, and all of the ingredients are present for a major F-5 tornado to sweep across the heartland. To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized? During the anti-war riots of the 1960s they killed student protesters. What about now? The military source cited by the radio host today was asked this very question. He would merely say that the culture of the U.S. military is changing--half support Obama and the other half are dead-set against him. His conclusion? There is no way to know for sure if they would obey an order to open fire on ordinary citizens.
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#22. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Yes he is, and guess what? His Hessian's will point their guns where there told, when there told. See Kent State, the Bonus Baby March, Waco and New Orleans post Katrina. The men who understand the Constitution are in Oath Keepers and other groups and deserve our support. These punks are punks. Those who still live in Oz will see our wonderful troops and their well honed brutality shortly.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Good point........I'm just thinking 80K is a small force even to control a major city, although they did quite a job of disarming citizens during Katrina. I wasn't thinking 20 states, more like a half dozen or less cities. With the way Obummer is talking, folks should be on the look out for multiple targets.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Keep in mind, most of the citizens of New Orleans evacuated before that Hurricane hit that city.
it could be that we havent been terrorized enough by the apache videos, so they'll have to do a couple well-photographed examples here in the states to scare the hardcore resisters into submission... and that's just the beginning, if we're to take israeli treatment of palestinians as a preview... not to mention soviet treatment of dissidents, using family members as hostages to ensure politically reliable behavior.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
We were ready to in '68. I had returned from the Orient and stepped into Riot Control training at Ft. Hood. The Drilling was unrelenting, until I got onto the Pistol Team. But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered.
you got any family? ...what if NSA has you earmarked already as a potential troublemaker? ...are you gonna fight back if you get locked up and interrogated for a few days, during which you are assured that your family will be tortured if you dont behave yourself?
Yep, I'm thinking a veritble three ring circus.......diversion is to their benefit, especially afer 911 where the event is still getting scrutinized. To attain the level of control that they seek it has to be another massive scenario, which makes me think it will be multiple. Also, this will happen while diverting some major economic crisis--easier to do with coverage spanning from one place to another. Note that on 911, there was coverage at four locations, keeping the MSM and the people glued to the tube. Made it real easy to ignore those reports on 9-10 about 2 trillion missing from the Pentegon. Plus, the news is already laying the ground work for what to expect with their unsubstantiated reports about "what if" and the unsubstantiated plans of Al Queda........
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Probably, but I'll take it. I have never felt stronger that the US military will be used by O to suppress the American people as deemed necessary. Today's volunteer would have trouble spelling Constitution, never mind keeping their oath to it. Like every other institution, it's been debased, corrupted and filled with incompetents. Audie Murphy is long dead.
of course, the most heroic and public advocates of violent resistance are the people who are most likely to have some form of immunity, arent they? and who will be able to grant them immunity? which is why i'm so suspicious of the heroes on this forum.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
well, there's your heroism... notice how many people swarmed to your rescue. zero.
But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered. GI's are going to do a whole lot of killing before the rank-in-file begin to question what they are doing and even more killing before they start going AWOL.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Three pigs? It looked like eight to ten of them getting in their licks. Am I wrong, and need new cheaters?
They call it "wilding" when the other side does it.
But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered. Well after all, an order is an order.....
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
so what are you gonna do about it, hero?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Barack Obama Continues Bush Administration Policy Regarding Posse Comitatus It has been just over one year since the U.S. Army announced that the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team was being placed under the direct control of the US Army Northern Command (NORTHCOM), and was being indefinitely reassigned as an “on-call federal response force” for emergencies of all sorts, natural and man-made, including terrorist attacks, within NORTHCOM's area of responsibility — the United States, Mexico, and Canada. Although the assignation went mostly unheralded at the time, it marked the first time in the history of the United States that an active unit of the regular Army was placed under the immediate and exclusive command of NORTHCOM. The number of uniformed soldiers assigned to this duty continues to increase annually and the force is estimated to reach a strength of 20,000 by the year 2011. This massive force will all be trained and equipped to “subdue unruly or dangerous individuals” and “help with civil unrest and crowd control.” As usual, these directives are vague and could be applied to any number of scenarios. Furthermore, the critical question to be asked in light of such an arrangement is who will decide who is unruly or dangerous? Whoever is appointed the arbiter of such things will of necessity be feared as he will have 20,000 troops on alert and ready to quell these civil disturbances. This unconstitutional use of American military forces within the United States is back in the news as reports have recently been released reviewing the progress the team has made in training with other federal, state, and local peace officers and agencies. Constitutionalists will find these maneuvers worrisome as they are gross violations of the black letter and the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act. Posse Comitatus (18 USC § 1385) was a law passed in 1878 in response to the abuse of citizens by federal troops occupying the states of the former Confederacy during the period known as Reconstruction. In exchange for their votes in favor of the presidency of Rutherford B. Hayes, Southern Senators received the support of Republican Senators for the Posse Comitatus Act requiring federal troops to withdraw from southern garrisons, thus ending Reconstruction. President Barack Obama marches on headlong, bent on disregarding this act and the applicable provisions of the Constitution in order to continue training the United States military to participate in purposefully undefined “emergency” situations within the borders of the United States. Recently he and Congress received an analysis of how well this unlawful cooperation between state and national government is progressing. By all accounts, NORTHCOM is withholding some critical information regarding the activities of this force. When it does release the required information, it does so slowly and clumsily. In its defense, NORTHCOM commanders claim that the inconsistencies, mistakes, and delays are due to the difficulty they face in coordinating these exercises with the various states. In typical governmental “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile” fashion, NORTHCOM is complaining that unless they are given greater and tighter control over the state agencies and the armed forces with whom they are tasked with training that they will be unable to guarantee operational success, and it may in fact detrimentally impact the team’s ability to provide the services they have been ordered to provide. Unfortunately, NORTHCOM is training with numerous state and local forces. To date, more than 19 federal agencies and 17 states have participated in one or more of the seven “homeland security” exercises that NORTHCOM has conducted since 2005. Not surprisingly, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has examined NORTHCOM’s reports and agrees with the command’s assessment of the provenance of the difficulties they are encountering in the present arrangement, and they have accordingly suggested that states relinquish administration of their forces and agencies and cede management and command to NORTHCOM. There is fear among those zealous of the Constitution's prohibition of commingling of federal and state forces that Democratic governors and legislators may tamely acquiesce to President Obama's desires and thereby further debilitate the strength and sanctity of state sovereignty, the foundational principle of federalism, and the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution that protects it. Reassuringly, there are those raising the warning voice regarding the training and quartering of federal troops on American soil for the purpose of law enforcement and controlling potential civil unrest, especially given the wide berth extant in such vague terms in the legislation that ostensibly restricts the sphere of the army’s power. Some opponents of the Obama administration’s ongoing and little-publicized violation of the Posse Comitatus Act see the entire set up as a behind-the-scenes deal between President Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who curiously retained his post after his previous employer left office. “While Obama and his team are making it sound as if they will use the military in a non-combative roll, part of the training being conducted is in urban warfare,” warned Mike Baker, a political strategist. He continued, “Obama appears oblivious to Posse Comitatus and to the US Constitution when it comes to using the military against civilians within US Borders.” Heroically, there are local police officers who feel threatened by being placed on a short leash placed by the President in the hand of the U.S. Army. Former NYPD detective and U.S. Marine intelligence officer, Sid Frances has called upon the state houses and Governors to assert their constitutionally guaranteed sovereignty and outright refuse to place their state forces under the command of federal officers. “I cannot understand why the federal government is so intent on using such military force within our borders. It reminds me of the Branch Dividian massacre in Waco, Texas, when the feds used that deadly physical force based on false information.” Admonitions and fears such as these from legitimate sources with personal experience should be a clarion call to all Americans wary of their constitutional protections from government encroachment and weary of the daily usurpation of power by one presidential administration after another (of both parties, mind you). In this case the conglomeration of power is being reinforced with the magnificent might of the United States Armed Forces.
Thanks. Has anyone said, or does anyone know, what prompted this assault? Were these cops just returned from the ME?
...training that presumably includes a couple tours of duty shooting civilians in urban settings in iraq and afghanistan.
When will anyone challenge this half-gum? Clearly un-Constitutional, and clearly treasonous. imo.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
how many generations of poverty will it take for americans to become human again? is there any sense in violent resistance if there's no foundation of human decency behind that resistance? is there anything here, now, worth saving?
the neocons gave us a warning of 9/11 in that PNAC document... now another neocon think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, is giving us another warning... President Obama told delegates from 47 nations at the Nuclear Security Summit on Tuesday that it would be a "catastrophe for the world" if al-Qaeda or another terrorist group got a nuclear device, because so many lives would be lost and it would be so hard to mitigate damage from the blast. The document is designed to help local officials craft plans for responding to a nuclear blast. The prospect is anything but far-fetched, says Rick Nelson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "Do I think in my lifetime I'll see the detonation of a nuclear device? I do." Nuclear blast victims would have to wait USA TODAY well thank you, mr nelson mr nelson neglects to mention that the most likely suspect for any nuke detonation in america would be neocons who need that blast to rejuvenate their project to achieve benevolent global hegemony, or israelis who need to rally support for their ethnic cleansing project.
First the obvious they, Oh'bummer and his Masters - the banksters and CIA/Mossad, are expecting something. Now the nature of that something is a matter of speculation. In order of possibility (before I look at anyone elses): 1. A staged provocation made to look like "civil insurrection" (ala Seattle WTO, Montreal NAU) in order to attempt to justify a crackdown. Likely this would involve a lot of gratuitous police brutality to really agitate and outrage the crowd. Tea Partiers beware they fear you and you are the most likely venue to have provocateurs/instigators inserted into. The other would be a "Militia" pumped up by the Feral Bureau of Instigation. 2. A staged false flag "terror" event - possibly involving a nuclear weapon. 3. Obama is assassinated by a "lone nut" or there is an attempted assassination. 4. Massive obvious vote stealing in the Fall (s)Elections which are expected to be resisted by the citizenry. "2" and "3" are almost a tie. Beyond that they may have knowledge which is not yet public which is expected to inflame passions. Possibly forcing through a Shamnesty Bill.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Dear Army, We know who your parents are: the morons who drive around with bumper stickers stating that their brats are in the army. They shoot a civilian, we murder their parents. Best regards, _________________________________________________________________________ Yes he is, and guess what? His Hessian's will point their guns where there told, when there told. See Kent State, the Bonus Baby March, Waco and New Orleans post Katrina. The men who understand the Constitution are in Oath Keepers and other groups and deserve our support. These punks are punks. Those who still live in Oz will see our wonderful troops and their well honed brutality shortly. I would think it likely that belonging to Oathkeepers or some other Patriot group would likely be considered a disqualification for this unit. Of course they would never say that publicly, but then there are a lot of disreputable things the Brass do not want public.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Not sure what to think of this.
From groundresonance's link at #53: Just a suggestion...you should think happy thoughts about being on the other side of the police state border.
I have a pretty good idea of what might be the real reason behind this. I'm still collating data. My best guess though, is some kind of distraction to screw with the elections so Obama and company like Pelosi and Reid aren't given their walking papers. Something big enough to suspend the election until the next big boom is dropped on us all. Either way, like another poster said. The military needs to understand that we the people are the governing authority over them, and not the other way around.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
We've been under threat of this happening since Hiroshima and it hasn't happened yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened and wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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#23. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#24. To: Eric Stratton, all (#22)
He is a POS anti-liberty American, and there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions just like him in the military and LE.
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
#27. To: Eric Stratton (#21)
Remember, weapons change hands.
#28. To: abraxas (#27)
Good point........I'm just thinking 80K is a small force even to control a major city, although they did quite a job of disarming citizens during Katrina.
#29. To: abraxas (#27)
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a half dozen or less cities
#30. To: abraxas (#27)
#31. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)
"As for the question of whether or not soldiers will fire on American citizens, my opinion is yes, they will fire on us in a New York minute."
#32. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
The citizens were caught w/ their pants down and didn't fight back. Ain't gonna happen when the man made shit starts.
#33. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
So you're thinking false flag FedGov ops in two/three areas?
#34. To: Eric Stratton (#26)
PS Oathkeepers isn't nearly big enough, what, like 3% of the forces?
#35. To: All (#32)
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The citizens were caught w/ their pants down and didn't fight back. Ain't gonna happen when the man made shit starts.
#36. To: scrapper2 (#4)
Here's some delicious punch flavored kool-aid to calm your little rube self down. I got the recipe from either a Nester or a Kossack, I can't keep them straight. Burp.
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
#38. To: All (#34)
#39. To: Eric Stratton (#38)
#40. To: ndcorup (#31)
We were ready to in '68. I had returned from the Orient and stepped into Riot Control training at Ft. Hood. The Drilling was unrelenting, until I got onto the Pistol Team.
#41. To: Eric Stratton (#38)
#42. To: Eric Stratton (#38)
#43. To: ndcorup (#31)
#44. To: Lod (#41)
#45. To: Eric Stratton (#44)
#46. To: Lod (#41)
#47. To: Flintlock, abraxas, ALL (#17)
www.thenewamerican.com/in...regarding-posse-comitatus
#48. To: Eric Stratton (#44)
#49. To: christine (#47)
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While Obama and his team are making it sound as if they will use the military in a non-combative roll, part of the training being conducted is in urban warfare,”
#50. To: christine, 4 (#47)
#51. To: Lod (#48)
#52. To: christine (#47)
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#53. To: All (#52)
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The White House has warned state and local governments not to expect a "significant federal response" at the scene of a terrorist nuclear attack for 24 to 72 hours after the blast, according to a planning guide.
#54. To: abraxas (#1)
Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
#55. To: abraxas (#0)
To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized?
Your civilian masters
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
He is a POS anti-liberty American, and there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions just like him in the military and LE.
#57. To: abraxas (#1)
Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#58. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, groundresonance, all (#54)
2. A staged false flag "terror" event - possibly involving a nuclear weapon.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#59. To: wudidiz (#57)
Not sure what to think of this.
#60. To: abraxas (#0)
#61. To: abraxas, All (#58)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#62. To: scrapper2 (#59)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
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