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Title: Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections
Source: Examiner
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Con ... soil-just-before-Nov-elections
Published: Apr 13, 2010
Author: Anthony G. Martin
Post Date: 2010-04-13 18:08:37 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1930
Comments: 152

Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections April 13, 5:16 PMC Conservative Examiner Anthony G. Martin

n October of this year, one month prior to the November midterm elections, a special army unit known as 'Consequence Management Response Force' will be ready for deployment on American soil if so ordered by the President.

(AP Photo/David Longstreath).

The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops.

According to the Army Times,

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack. The key phrase is 'may be called upon to help with civil unrest.'

This afternoon a local radio talk show host reported that he had been in contact with a member of the military. This military source stated that the armed forces have been alerted to the strong possibility that civil unrest may occur in the United States this summer, prior to the midterm elections of 2010.

The source described this as 'our long, hot summer of discontent' that could be eerily reminiscent of the summer of 1968 when riots broke out in many of our largest cities.

However, the summer of 2010 could well be much worse due to the players involved. In 1968 the major players were war protesters. This time, the outrage simmering beneath the surface of American society involves a broad cross-section of the heartland, and most of them are heavily armed.

It is highly unlikely that these citizens would ever initiate armed conflict of any kind. In their view, gun rights are for self-defense--and for defense against tyrannical government, which our Founders regarded as the most dangerous force on earth.

However, it has become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an 'incident' that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens' guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it is deemed 'safe' to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote.

Tea Party members, for example, have been warned in recent days that members of Andy Stern's SEIU union and members of the organization formerly known as ACORN plan to infiltrate Tea Party gatherings in order to incite some sort of incident that could result in armed conflict.

In addition, all indications point to a humiliating defeat for the Democrats and Obama in November. Not only will the House in all likelihood transfer to Republican control, but it is increasingly possible for the Democrats to lose the Senate as well.

And there are Leftwing groups in this country that would use whatever means necessary to prevent that from happening.

ACORN has already gone underground, changing its name so as to fly beneath the radar screen. How many people will the group register to vote illegally?

And with Obama's plan to naturalize between 10 and 20 million illegal aliens, a brand new voter base for the Democrats will be in place prior to November.

Add to this the growing unrest over continued high unemployment, the coming spike in interest rates and inflation, and the still-boiling outrage over the manner in which Obama and the Democrats shoved ObamaCare down the throats of the citizens, and all of the ingredients are present for a major F-5 tornado to sweep across the heartland.

To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized? During the anti-war riots of the 1960s they killed student protesters. What about now?

The military source cited by the radio host today was asked this very question. He would merely say that the culture of the U.S. military is changing--half support Obama and the other half are dead-set against him.

His conclusion? There is no way to know for sure if they would obey an order to open fire on ordinary citizens.

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#53. To: All (#52) (Edited)

the neocons gave us a warning of 9/11 in that PNAC document... now another neocon think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, is giving us another warning...

The White House has warned state and local governments not to expect a "significant federal response" at the scene of a terrorist nuclear attack for 24 to 72 hours after the blast, according to a planning guide.

President Obama told delegates from 47 nations at the Nuclear Security Summit on Tuesday that it would be a "catastrophe for the world" if al-Qaeda or another terrorist group got a nuclear device, because so many lives would be lost and it would be so hard to mitigate damage from the blast.

The document is designed to help local officials craft plans for responding to a nuclear blast. The prospect is anything but far-fetched, says Rick Nelson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

"Do I think in my lifetime I'll see the detonation of a nuclear device? I do."

Nuclear blast victims would have to wait USA TODAY

well thank you, mr nelson

mr nelson neglects to mention that the most likely suspect for any nuke detonation in america would be neocons who need that blast to rejuvenate their project to achieve benevolent global hegemony, or israelis who need to rally support for their ethnic cleansing project.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-13   22:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: abraxas (#1)

Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?

First the obvious they, Oh'bummer and his Masters - the banksters and CIA/Mossad, are expecting something. Now the nature of that something is a matter of speculation. In order of possibility (before I look at anyone elses):

1. A staged provocation made to look like "civil insurrection" (ala Seattle WTO, Montreal NAU) in order to attempt to justify a crackdown. Likely this would involve a lot of gratuitous police brutality to really agitate and outrage the crowd. Tea Partiers beware they fear you and you are the most likely venue to have provocateurs/instigators inserted into. The other would be a "Militia" pumped up by the Feral Bureau of Instigation.

2. A staged false flag "terror" event - possibly involving a nuclear weapon.

3. Obama is assassinated by a "lone nut" or there is an attempted assassination.

4. Massive obvious vote stealing in the Fall (s)Elections which are expected to be resisted by the citizenry.

"2" and "3" are almost a tie. Beyond that they may have knowledge which is not yet public which is expected to inflame passions. Possibly forcing through a Shamnesty Bill.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-04-14   0:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas (#0)

To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized?

Dear Army,

We know who your parents are: the morons who drive around with bumper stickers stating that their brats are in the army. They shoot a civilian, we murder their parents.

Best regards,
Your civilian masters

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-04-14   0:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

He is a POS anti-liberty American, and there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions just like him in the military and LE.

Yes he is, and guess what? His Hessian's will point their guns where there told, when there told. See Kent State, the Bonus Baby March, Waco and New Orleans post Katrina. The men who understand the Constitution are in Oath Keepers and other groups and deserve our support. These punks are punks. Those who still live in Oz will see our wonderful troops and their well honed brutality shortly.

I would think it likely that belonging to Oathkeepers or some other Patriot group would likely be considered a disqualification for this unit. Of course they would never say that publicly, but then there are a lot of disreputable things the Brass do not want public.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-04-14   0:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: abraxas (#1)

Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?

Not sure what to think of this.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   0:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, groundresonance, all (#54)

2. A staged false flag "terror" event - possibly involving a nuclear weapon.

From groundresonance's link at #53:

The government's planning scenarios envision a terrorist strike in an urban area with a 10-kiloton device, slightly smaller than the roughly 15-kiloton Hiroshima bomb. A 10-kiloton device packs the punch of 10,000 tons of TNT.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   0:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: wudidiz (#57)

Not sure what to think of this.

Just a suggestion...you should think happy thoughts about being on the other side of the police state border.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-14   0:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: abraxas (#0)

I have a pretty good idea of what might be the real reason behind this.

I'm still collating data.

My best guess though, is some kind of distraction to screw with the elections so Obama and company like Pelosi and Reid aren't given their walking papers. Something big enough to suspend the election until the next big boom is dropped on us all.

Either way, like another poster said. The military needs to understand that we the people are the governing authority over them, and not the other way around.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-04-14   0:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas, All (#58)

We've been under threat of this happening since Hiroshima and it hasn't happened yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if it happened and wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   0:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: scrapper2 (#59)


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   0:57:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: wudidiz (#61)

I'm curious. What image of the CommunityOrganizerKenyanIposterInChief does the Cdn MSM - CBC, Globe and Mail etc - present to the folks in Canada Land. Do they talk him up like he's the smartest most divine leader ever?

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-14   0:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: scrapper2 (#63)

Same image I guess. Same MSM. (AP, Reuters, etc.) I can't say for certain because I don't pay much attention to it.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   1:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: scrapper2 (#63)

Do they talk him up like he's the smartest most divine leader ever?

Yes, I do recall some of that, scrapper.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   1:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: wudidiz (#65)

Do they talk him up like he's the smartest most divine leader ever?

Yes, I do recall some of that, scrapper.

That's so wrong! Cdn media don't need to worry about offending the DopeInChief- they don't need access. Leftie liars in media are all the same regardless of what nation they live in.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-14   1:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: abraxas (#0)

Honestly, I think all 80 thousand would get their asses handed to them if they fired on American citizens. People have had more than enough of this crap.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-04-14   1:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: ndcorup (#31)

But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered.

Cause they got shit for brains. Not hard to beat such a force. Iraqis aren't having much of a problem keeping them on their bases most of the time.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-04-14   1:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: scrapper2 (#66)

I think that those who own the media own both Obama and Harper.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   1:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: RickyJ (#67)

Honestly, I think all 80 thousand would get their asses handed to them if they fired on American citizens.

Imho, it is highly unlikely that the American born would fire on American civilians.

Rather they might in fact decide to be the defenders of American civilians.

Frankly I don't believe that the PTB would take such a risk, wherein there's even a 10% [we're talking 8000 armed military] chance of blow back, because then their whole House of Cards would fall down.

I think this info has been consciously planted/released to the media to cause shivers in rube land.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-14   1:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: wudidiz (#69)

I think that those who own the media own both Obama and Harper.

Hmmm....I think I know what you mean, wud...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFtv5qe5o3c

scrapper2  posted on  2010-04-14   1:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: scrapper2 (#71)

lol

Nice song anyways...


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-14   1:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: wudidiz, abraxas (#58)

Oh, and I left one off the list - kicking myself now because it was so obvious.

5. Financial melt down and currency collapse. This would be followed by widespread industrial dysfunction, famine, and eventually riots.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-04-14   2:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: abraxas (#0)

The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops.

ALL troops home now! -- not just them.

4um topic cross reference: UPDATED: Connecting the dots on Obama’s Council of Governors

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-04-14   3:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: groundresonance (#52)

is there any sense in violent resistance if there's no foundation of human decency behind that resistance?

Quite a question groundresonance. I do think that there is still human decency in this nation.....if you don't believe me go on vacation in Montana. : )

There is plenty worth saving......let us begin with what is left of our Constitution.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   11:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: RickyJ (#67)

Honestly, I think all 80 thousand would get their asses handed to them if they fired on American citizens. People have had more than enough of this crap.

Depends on where they are deployed. For instance, citizens aren't armed in Chicago.....

Looking back at the LA riots where the troops were brought in, it still took three days to regrain control.

Of course, they do have those sound weapons at their disposal now.......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   11:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Original_Intent (#73)

5. Financial melt down and currency collapse. This would be followed by widespread industrial dysfunction, famine, and eventually riots.

I was viewing this aspect as the catylst that the huge event would divert attention from..........nothing to see here looky lous, we've got civil disorder in various places, focus on the uppity citizens not the government incompetence and corruption.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   11:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: GreyLmist (#74)

ALL troops home now! -- not just them.

Are you concerned that 80K won't be enought to control the "radical" and uppity citizens of the US?

Thanks for the link. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   11:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: wudidiz (#61)

We've been under threat of this happening since Hiroshima and it hasn't happened yet.

Actually the round up and internment of Japanese American citizens did happen.......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   11:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: scrapper2 (#71)

lol. clever, scrap.

christine  posted on  2010-04-14   11:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: GreyLmist (#74)

ALL troops home now! -- not just them.

I have changed my thinking on this of late:

KEEP 'EM THERE

is my new bumper sticker idea.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-04-14   11:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: abraxas (#75) (Edited)

go on vacation in Montana

i worked in montana in the early 80s, in the plains just east of the rockies, between great falls and augusta... we stayed in augusta and choteau... right there amongst the missile silos...

the teen pregnancy rate was astronomical, according to the locals... high school girls compensating for the missiles, i spose.

anyhow, the military is going for green energy as fast as it can, which shows that they are anticipating oil shortages... it also shows a long-term sort of thought process, which would also show an intent to keep things under control for more-or-less ever.

whether they'll have enough energy to keep it all together... who knows?

meanwhile, will the peons be forced to humanize themselves again, if they have to cooperate to survive?

will the peons have to stay in one place long enough to get to know each other, because they'll have to walk or ride a horse to wherever they're going?

could it be that women would start selecting for productive, adaptive, decent mates, rather than predators and rich blowhards? ...would they start raising their kids to be respectful of reality instead of rock stars?

*shrug*

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-14   12:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: groundresonance (#82)

the teen pregnancy rate was astronomical, according to the locals... high school girls compensating for the missiles, i spose.

So teen pregnancy equates to no human decency? If that is the case, then there has never been any human decency to speak of and we should not waste time lamenting what we never had.

The US government owns Teslas patents.....there are other sources of energy that have been known for 100 years. Of course, sharing such knowledge would decrease profits for oil companies who line the politicians pockets. There will always be enough energy, groundresonance, fear not.

I don't think you will be able to reform those evil women. Better to accept that ALL women are evil to the bone (maybe even through the bone). Many religious folks would say this is the corruption of Eve and you just can't fix that. Apparently, you agree on this point. It's good that you find agreement within the fundamentalists. Don't you agree?

So, all children today are disrespectful......must be those evil women raising or not raising them. Apparently, evil begets evil. Why do you even foresee humanization as an alternative with such a perspective?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   12:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: abraxas (#83) (Edited)

teen pregnancy equates to no human decency

i'm saying that living in the middle of a bunch of nuclear missile silos may have accounted for the high pregnancy rate...

and to me, that seems to be a very human response to the certainty that, if reagan had pushed the button, that whole area of montana would have become a radioactive wasteland.

you've got to admit that, in normal circumstances, women have a certain responsibility for the way their children turn out.

sorry i hit such a sore spot.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-14   12:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: groundresonance (#84)

you've got to admit that, in normal circumstances, women have a certain responsibility for the way their children turn out.

HUGE responsibility....but where I disagree is that ALL kids are disrespectful and that ALL women are evil. It's those broad generalizations that I object too.

You do realize that Montana has always had higher birth rates in colder months because people are stuck indoors and there's not a lot to do, right? This was true before the missile silos moved in. : )

Have you factored the cold weather into your teen pregnancy accounting?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   12:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: abraxas (#85) (Edited)

your teen pregnancy accounting

i am repeating what the locals told me, something like half the high school girls in town were pregnant, or had been.

i did not say all women were evil... the worst i said about them is that they're human. mostly.

cold weather means more fucking... well, good enough, and that probably explains why the planet is swamped with eskimos, and probably explains why montana is the third least-populated state in america.

about tesla: if people make money selling the current forms of energy, dont you figure they'd figure out a way to make money from tesla's ideas, if they were workable?

the whole cornicopian idea of endless free energy does not compute, from any standpoint at all, except maybe from one standpoint: the apparently inextinguishable human yearning for magic solutions to real problems... solutions including the pie-in-the-sky religions.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-14   13:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: groundresonance (#86)

about tesla: if people make money selling the current forms of energy, dont you figure they'd figure out a way to make money from tesla's ideas, if they were workable?

I believe that's been the reason why the government suppressed the patents and the information and wrote him out of the history books. Tesla's grand idea was FREE energy--he stated at the time there was no way to monetize it. Westinghouse backed away from funding his reasearch because they found they couldn't monetize it.

Look at the world today--this is Tesla's world with cell phones, microwave, internet, HAARP and so much more. Were all of these "magic solutions"? At the time, people could not conceive it, but today we live it.

I'll put my money on Tesla, given his PROVEN track record. The government couldn't wait to gobble up his patents and write him out of history. They sure went to a lot of trouble to supress what he knew.........don't you ever wonder WHY?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   13:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: abraxas (#87)

the reason why the government suppressed the patents

so you think that every government in the world is cooperating to suppress tesla's magical energy sources.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-14   13:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: abraxas (#87)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-14   13:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: groundresonance (#88)

so you think that every government in the world is cooperating to suppress tesla's magical energy sources.

The US government took his patents. So there is no cooperation or lack of cooperation--one government holds them and suppresses them. Since Tesla was a Serbian national, Serbia tried to get the patents but were refused after Tesla's death.

I do know that scientists in Australia are working on free energy based on bits and pieces of Tesla's work that hadn't been supressed. They are having good success, but it's slow with no government and no energy company funding.

When you look at Tesla's body of knowledge you can see it in the US government-- just look at HAARP. Don't think for a minute other government wouldn't like to get their hands on that.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-04-14   13:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Eric Stratton (#89) (Edited)

meanwhile, eric stratton cant explain why those manifestly superior israelis havent decoded tesla's magic forumula, unveiled it to the world, declared the arrival of their benevolent global hegemony, and cranked up their tikkun olam.

i guess, in order to do a decent repair job on the world, the israelis think they have to destroy more of it by using oldfashioned nukes.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-14   13:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#40)

"GI's are going to do a whole lot of killing before the rank-in-file begin to question what they are doing and even more killing before they start going AWOL. "

My thinking as well. Having been in a Combat Arm in '65-'68, I've got a feel for the reflection capacity for the average troop. Not good.

ndcorup  posted on  2010-04-14   13:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: abraxas (#90) (Edited)

scientists in Australia are working on free energy based on bits and pieces of Tesla's work that hadn't been supressed. They are having good success, but it's slow with no government and no energy company funding.

if tesla's magic source is so complicated that it requires government funding, and takes so long to develop, then it must not be quite as "free" as it's cracked up to be.

meanwhile, after huge strides across the board in scientific knowledge and computing capability, nobody's been able to duplicate tesla's work, or has stumbled onto tesla's source of energy.

it doesnt hold water, and it smacks of another chemtrial, crop circle, abiotic oil, pie-in-the-sky myth.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-04-14   13:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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