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Title: Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections
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URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Con ... soil-just-before-Nov-elections
Published: Apr 13, 2010
Author: Anthony G. Martin
Post Date: 2010-04-13 18:08:37 by abraxas
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Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections April 13, 5:16 PMC Conservative Examiner Anthony G. Martin n October of this year, one month prior to the November midterm elections, a special army unit known as 'Consequence Management Response Force' will be ready for deployment on American soil if so ordered by the President. (AP Photo/David Longstreath). The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops. According to the Army Times, They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack. The key phrase is 'may be called upon to help with civil unrest.' This afternoon a local radio talk show host reported that he had been in contact with a member of the military. This military source stated that the armed forces have been alerted to the strong possibility that civil unrest may occur in the United States this summer, prior to the midterm elections of 2010. The source described this as 'our long, hot summer of discontent' that could be eerily reminiscent of the summer of 1968 when riots broke out in many of our largest cities. However, the summer of 2010 could well be much worse due to the players involved. In 1968 the major players were war protesters. This time, the outrage simmering beneath the surface of American society involves a broad cross-section of the heartland, and most of them are heavily armed. It is highly unlikely that these citizens would ever initiate armed conflict of any kind. In their view, gun rights are for self-defense--and for defense against tyrannical government, which our Founders regarded as the most dangerous force on earth. However, it has become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an 'incident' that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens' guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it is deemed 'safe' to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote. Tea Party members, for example, have been warned in recent days that members of Andy Stern's SEIU union and members of the organization formerly known as ACORN plan to infiltrate Tea Party gatherings in order to incite some sort of incident that could result in armed conflict. In addition, all indications point to a humiliating defeat for the Democrats and Obama in November. Not only will the House in all likelihood transfer to Republican control, but it is increasingly possible for the Democrats to lose the Senate as well. And there are Leftwing groups in this country that would use whatever means necessary to prevent that from happening. ACORN has already gone underground, changing its name so as to fly beneath the radar screen. How many people will the group register to vote illegally? And with Obama's plan to naturalize between 10 and 20 million illegal aliens, a brand new voter base for the Democrats will be in place prior to November. Add to this the growing unrest over continued high unemployment, the coming spike in interest rates and inflation, and the still-boiling outrage over the manner in which Obama and the Democrats shoved ObamaCare down the throats of the citizens, and all of the ingredients are present for a major F-5 tornado to sweep across the heartland. To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized? During the anti-war riots of the 1960s they killed student protesters. What about now? The military source cited by the radio host today was asked this very question. He would merely say that the culture of the U.S. military is changing--half support Obama and the other half are dead-set against him. His conclusion? There is no way to know for sure if they would obey an order to open fire on ordinary citizens.
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Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
What do you think, Cyni?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The first thing I ask myself is exactly what are they planning that they expect citizens to act in a manner that would require troops to be deployed. As for the question of whether or not soldiers will fire on American citizens, my opinion is yes, they will fire on us in a New York minute.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
The military source cited by the radio host today was asked this very question. He would merely say that the culture of the U.S. military is changing--half support Obama and the other half are dead-set against him. His conclusion? There is no way to know for sure if they would obey an order to open fire on ordinary citizens. It's silly and downright unpatriotic and very racist [ did I forget anything on the list?] to harbor and promote such outrageous scenarios. This army force would only be deployed for own good, to defend us grass eaters from foreigner bad guys, right? Here's some delicious punch flavored kool-aid to calm your little rube self down. I got the recipe from either a Nester or a Kossack, I can't keep them straight. Burp. Postscript: for further reading, cast your eyes on this:
Nothing here......move along.......they are us.....our friends.......has the US military ever turned on American citizens before?????
Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction- Civil Support Teams. A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event. In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C. Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1 army times . and who is the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade when it's at home? It represents the eyes and ears of the Division, much of the Division's tactical mobility, and a large measure of the Division's firepower. In 1993 the last of the AH-1s were phased out, leaving the Brigade with only the other 3 aircraft types in inventory. Elements of the reorganized and redesignated 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade deployed to Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom in late 2006 before returning to Fort Bragg. In 2007 elemenets of the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade "Too Easy!" globalsecurity.org well, it's nice to know these guys ought to be competent... practice makes perfect
I'm asking myself the same thing......you don't have 80K troops on hand for a just in case scenario or a natural disaster. You have them ready when you the S is about to hit the fan. This reminds me of FEMA setting up shop on Sept. 10, 2001, among other coincidences. They skirted the Posse Comm Act by claiming the troops are in place for disaster prevention, not as a military force, but I'm not smoking what they are rollin'. I don't know about that last question. I'd like to think not......but it's not as if I'm overbrimming with hope.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Thanks for that PS scrapper......... I'm beginning to smell smoke......no not your average idiot throwing a cig out the window or kiddies playing with matches, it has a Reichstag aroma to it.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Someone is going to light the fire and it is not going to be pretty.
it's been a long time coming, hasnt it? and now, in all the confusion, the zionist rats that started this bullshit ought to be able to scurry off to safety. good deal
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
it's essential that america be held together long enough that israel can complete its ethnic cleansing of the high ground in the west bank, as america subsidizes and protects israel. if america has to be held together by force of arms, so be it. meanwhile, the really big boys, the looters, can scurry off to safety, seeing as how they never bought into the zionist project in the first place.
Is the takeover of America coming? Free Press International United States Congressman, Jim McDermott addressed his concerns in 2003 SOURCE http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml Here is a transcript of his speech. MARTIAL LAW CONCERNS House of Representatives – March 11, 2003 Madam Speaker, I come to the House floor tonight to talk about an issue which I think is of grave concern to this country. I recently read an article published in the Sydney, Australia, Morning Herald entitled Foundations Are in Place for Martial Law in the United States. The author is a man named Ritt Goldstein, an investigative reporter for the Herald, and he said that recent pronouncements from the Bush administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States. When President Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua, he issued a series of executive orders which provided FEMA with broad powers in the event of a crisis, such as the violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a U.S. military invasion abroad. They were never used. But with the looming possibility of a U.S. invasion of Iraq, recent pronouncements by President Bush’s domestic security chief, Tom Ridge, and an official with the Civil Rights Commission should fire concerns that these powers could be employed or a de facto drift into their deployment in the future. On the 20th of July, the Detroit Free Press ran a story entitled “Arabs in U.S. Could Be Held, Official Warns.” The story referred to a member of the Civil Rights Commission who foresaw the possibility of internment camps for Arab Americans. FEMA has practiced for such an occasion. FEMA, whose main role is disaster response, is also responsible for handling U.S. domestic unrest. From 1982 to 1984, Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defense preparations. Details of those plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal. They included executive orders providing for suspension of the Constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the President and FEMA. A Miami Herald article on the 5th of July, 1987, reported that the former FEMA director’s, Louis Guiffrida’s, deputy, John Brinkerhoff, handled the martial law portion of the planning. The planning was said to be similar to one Mr. Guiffrida had developed earlier to combat a national uprising by black militants. It provided for the detention of at least 21 million American Negroes in assembly centers or relocation camps. Today, Mr. Brinkerhoff is with the highly influential Anser Institute for Homeland Security. Following a request by the Pentagon in January that the U.S. military be allowed the option of deploying troops on American streets, the institute in February published a paper by Mr. Brinkerhoff arguing the legality of this. He alleged that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has long been accepted as prohibiting such deployments, had simply been misunderstood and misapplied. The preface to the article also provided the revelation that the national plan he had worked on under Mr. Guiffrida was approved by Reagan and actions were taken to implement it. By April, the U.S. military had created a Northern Command to aid homeland security. Reuters reported that the command is mainly expected to play a supporting role to local authorities. However, Mr. Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security, has just advocated a review of U.S. law regarding the use of military for law enforcement duties. Disturbingly, and it just really should disturb people, the full facts and contents of Mr. Reagan’s national plan remain uncertain. This is in part because President Bush took the unusual step of sealing the Reagan Presidential papers last November. However, many of the key figures of the Reagan era are part of the present administration, including John Poindexter, to whom Oliver North later reported. At the time of the Reagan initiatives, the then-Attorney General, William French Smith, a Republican, wrote to the National Security Adviser, Robert McFarlane: “I believe that the role assigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the revised executive order exceeds its proper function as a coordinating agency for emergency preparedness. This department and others have repeatedly raised serious policy and legal objections to an emergency czar role for FEMA.” Criticism of the Bush administration’s response to September 11 echoes Mr. Smith’s warning. On June 7 of last year, the former Presidential counsel, John Dean, spoke of America sliding into a, quote, “constitutional dictatorship,” close quote, and martial law. The reason I raise this issue is that I come from a State where in 1941 under executive order by the President, 9661, we rounded up all the Japanese Americans in this country and put them in concentration camps. We have set in place the mechanism to do that again and we must not, we cannot sacrifice the Constitution in this rush to war that we are doing in Iraq. Below is a video of former President Bush Jr. expressing if there is a major crisis, do we not quarantine parts of America? In this video, Congressman Peter DeFazio states Congress and the Homeland Security Committee were denied access to the continuity of government plan. Below is a video of Congressmen Brad Sherman speaking of martial law. As Bush Jr. was leaving office, the White House prepared more than a dozen contingency plans to help guide President-elect Barack Obama if an international crisis were to erupt. SOURCE ………………………………………………………………………. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS. (a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations. (b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure– (1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster; (2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders; (3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security. SOURCE http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645 Doomsday: U.S. report warns of ’strategic shock’ leading to massive unrest WASHINGTON — The United States could be sleep-walking into its next crisis, a military report said. The report by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Institute, said that a defense community paralyzed by conventional thinking could be unprepared to help the United States cope with a series of unexpected crises that would rival the Al Qaida strikes in 2001, termed a “strategic shock.” The report cited the prospect of the collapse of a nuclear state leading to massive unrest in the United States, Middle East Newsline reported. “Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,” the report, authored by [Ret.] Lt. Col. Nathan Freir, said. “Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters are all paths to disruptive domestic shock.” Titled “Known Unknowns: Unconventional Strategic Shocks in Defense Strategy Development,” the report warned that the U.S. military and intelligence community remain mired in the past as well as the need to accommodate government policy. Freier, a former Pentagon official, said that despite the Al Qaida surprise in 2001 U.S. defense strategy and planning remain trapped by “excessive convention.” “The current administration confronted a game-changing ’strategic shock’ inside its first eight months in office,” the report said. “The next administration would be well-advised to expect the same during the course of its first term. Indeed, the odds are very high against any of the challenges routinely at the top of the traditional defense agenda triggering the next watershed inside DoD [Department of Defense].” The report cited the collapse of what Freier termed “a large capable state that results in a nuclear civil war.” Such a prospect could lead to uncontrolled weapons of mass destruction proliferation as well as a nuclear war. The report cited the prospect of a breakdown of order in the United States. Freier said the Pentagon could be suddenly forced to recall troops from abroad to fight domestic unrest. “An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home,” the report said. The report said the United States could also come under pressure from a hostile state with control over insurgency groups. The hostile state could force American decision-makers into a desperate response. “The United States might also consider the prospect that hostile state and/or nonstate actors might individually or in concert combine hybrid methods effectively to resist U.S. influence in a nonmilitary manner,” the report said. “This is clearly an emerging trend.” “The aforementioned are admittedly extreme,” the report said. “They are not, however, implausible or fantastical.” Source http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ss_military0790_12_15.asp
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Like today, for instance, when Obama is waring of Al Queda nuking the US? Or the newsflash from that ol' reliable Debka (eyes rolling) about if Iran is hit several US citiies will be hit. Or all this fuss about these homegrown radicals......these tea party types with their second amendment and "racist" agenda. So many ways that the MSM is making speculation without covering anything or offering ANY data to actually SUBSTANTIATE claims. Big clue right there I say. I'd be interested in knowing the dispersement agenda for the 80K troops--all in one place or in several key locations?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I can see that happening.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Congratulations Obama voters, you succeeded in destroying Posse Comitatus. That's change!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I went pee in my back yard a few days ago because my bathroom smelled like drain cleaner. Think we can bring Dow Chemical into this argument on our side?
“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
He's a low life, POS, anti-American. I don't care what uniform he wears.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Yes he is, and guess what? His Hessian's will point their guns where there told, when there told. See Kent State, the Bonus Baby March, Waco and New Orleans post Katrina. The men who understand the Constitution are in Oath Keepers and other groups and deserve our support. These punks are punks. Those who still live in Oz will see our wonderful troops and their well honed brutality shortly.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Good point........I'm just thinking 80K is a small force even to control a major city, although they did quite a job of disarming citizens during Katrina. I wasn't thinking 20 states, more like a half dozen or less cities. With the way Obummer is talking, folks should be on the look out for multiple targets.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Keep in mind, most of the citizens of New Orleans evacuated before that Hurricane hit that city.
it could be that we havent been terrorized enough by the apache videos, so they'll have to do a couple well-photographed examples here in the states to scare the hardcore resisters into submission... and that's just the beginning, if we're to take israeli treatment of palestinians as a preview... not to mention soviet treatment of dissidents, using family members as hostages to ensure politically reliable behavior.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
We were ready to in '68. I had returned from the Orient and stepped into Riot Control training at Ft. Hood. The Drilling was unrelenting, until I got onto the Pistol Team. But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered.
you got any family? ...what if NSA has you earmarked already as a potential troublemaker? ...are you gonna fight back if you get locked up and interrogated for a few days, during which you are assured that your family will be tortured if you dont behave yourself?
Yep, I'm thinking a veritble three ring circus.......diversion is to their benefit, especially afer 911 where the event is still getting scrutinized. To attain the level of control that they seek it has to be another massive scenario, which makes me think it will be multiple. Also, this will happen while diverting some major economic crisis--easier to do with coverage spanning from one place to another. Note that on 911, there was coverage at four locations, keeping the MSM and the people glued to the tube. Made it real easy to ignore those reports on 9-10 about 2 trillion missing from the Pentegon. Plus, the news is already laying the ground work for what to expect with their unsubstantiated reports about "what if" and the unsubstantiated plans of Al Queda........
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Probably, but I'll take it. I have never felt stronger that the US military will be used by O to suppress the American people as deemed necessary. Today's volunteer would have trouble spelling Constitution, never mind keeping their oath to it. Like every other institution, it's been debased, corrupted and filled with incompetents. Audie Murphy is long dead.
of course, the most heroic and public advocates of violent resistance are the people who are most likely to have some form of immunity, arent they? and who will be able to grant them immunity? which is why i'm so suspicious of the heroes on this forum.
;P
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
well, there's your heroism... notice how many people swarmed to your rescue. zero.
But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered. GI's are going to do a whole lot of killing before the rank-in-file begin to question what they are doing and even more killing before they start going AWOL.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Three pigs? It looked like eight to ten of them getting in their licks. Am I wrong, and need new cheaters?
They call it "wilding" when the other side does it.
But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered. Well after all, an order is an order.....
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
so what are you gonna do about it, hero?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Barack Obama Continues Bush Administration Policy Regarding Posse Comitatus It has been just over one year since the U.S. Army announced that the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team was being placed under the direct control of the US Army Northern Command (NORTHCOM), and was being indefinitely reassigned as an “on-call federal response force” for emergencies of all sorts, natural and man-made, including terrorist attacks, within NORTHCOM's area of responsibility — the United States, Mexico, and Canada. Although the assignation went mostly unheralded at the time, it marked the first time in the history of the United States that an active unit of the regular Army was placed under the immediate and exclusive command of NORTHCOM. The number of uniformed soldiers assigned to this duty continues to increase annually and the force is estimated to reach a strength of 20,000 by the year 2011. This massive force will all be trained and equipped to “subdue unruly or dangerous individuals” and “help with civil unrest and crowd control.” As usual, these directives are vague and could be applied to any number of scenarios. Furthermore, the critical question to be asked in light of such an arrangement is who will decide who is unruly or dangerous? Whoever is appointed the arbiter of such things will of necessity be feared as he will have 20,000 troops on alert and ready to quell these civil disturbances. This unconstitutional use of American military forces within the United States is back in the news as reports have recently been released reviewing the progress the team has made in training with other federal, state, and local peace officers and agencies. Constitutionalists will find these maneuvers worrisome as they are gross violations of the black letter and the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act. Posse Comitatus (18 USC § 1385) was a law passed in 1878 in response to the abuse of citizens by federal troops occupying the states of the former Confederacy during the period known as Reconstruction. In exchange for their votes in favor of the presidency of Rutherford B. Hayes, Southern Senators received the support of Republican Senators for the Posse Comitatus Act requiring federal troops to withdraw from southern garrisons, thus ending Reconstruction. President Barack Obama marches on headlong, bent on disregarding this act and the applicable provisions of the Constitution in order to continue training the United States military to participate in purposefully undefined “emergency” situations within the borders of the United States. Recently he and Congress received an analysis of how well this unlawful cooperation between state and national government is progressing. By all accounts, NORTHCOM is withholding some critical information regarding the activities of this force. When it does release the required information, it does so slowly and clumsily. In its defense, NORTHCOM commanders claim that the inconsistencies, mistakes, and delays are due to the difficulty they face in coordinating these exercises with the various states. In typical governmental “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile” fashion, NORTHCOM is complaining that unless they are given greater and tighter control over the state agencies and the armed forces with whom they are tasked with training that they will be unable to guarantee operational success, and it may in fact detrimentally impact the team’s ability to provide the services they have been ordered to provide. Unfortunately, NORTHCOM is training with numerous state and local forces. To date, more than 19 federal agencies and 17 states have participated in one or more of the seven “homeland security” exercises that NORTHCOM has conducted since 2005. Not surprisingly, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has examined NORTHCOM’s reports and agrees with the command’s assessment of the provenance of the difficulties they are encountering in the present arrangement, and they have accordingly suggested that states relinquish administration of their forces and agencies and cede management and command to NORTHCOM. There is fear among those zealous of the Constitution's prohibition of commingling of federal and state forces that Democratic governors and legislators may tamely acquiesce to President Obama's desires and thereby further debilitate the strength and sanctity of state sovereignty, the foundational principle of federalism, and the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution that protects it. Reassuringly, there are those raising the warning voice regarding the training and quartering of federal troops on American soil for the purpose of law enforcement and controlling potential civil unrest, especially given the wide berth extant in such vague terms in the legislation that ostensibly restricts the sphere of the army’s power. Some opponents of the Obama administration’s ongoing and little-publicized violation of the Posse Comitatus Act see the entire set up as a behind-the-scenes deal between President Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who curiously retained his post after his previous employer left office. “While Obama and his team are making it sound as if they will use the military in a non-combative roll, part of the training being conducted is in urban warfare,” warned Mike Baker, a political strategist. He continued, “Obama appears oblivious to Posse Comitatus and to the US Constitution when it comes to using the military against civilians within US Borders.” Heroically, there are local police officers who feel threatened by being placed on a short leash placed by the President in the hand of the U.S. Army. Former NYPD detective and U.S. Marine intelligence officer, Sid Frances has called upon the state houses and Governors to assert their constitutionally guaranteed sovereignty and outright refuse to place their state forces under the command of federal officers. “I cannot understand why the federal government is so intent on using such military force within our borders. It reminds me of the Branch Dividian massacre in Waco, Texas, when the feds used that deadly physical force based on false information.” Admonitions and fears such as these from legitimate sources with personal experience should be a clarion call to all Americans wary of their constitutional protections from government encroachment and weary of the daily usurpation of power by one presidential administration after another (of both parties, mind you). In this case the conglomeration of power is being reinforced with the magnificent might of the United States Armed Forces.
Thanks. Has anyone said, or does anyone know, what prompted this assault? Were these cops just returned from the ME?
...training that presumably includes a couple tours of duty shooting civilians in urban settings in iraq and afghanistan.
When will anyone challenge this half-gum? Clearly un-Constitutional, and clearly treasonous. imo.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
how many generations of poverty will it take for americans to become human again? is there any sense in violent resistance if there's no foundation of human decency behind that resistance? is there anything here, now, worth saving?
the neocons gave us a warning of 9/11 in that PNAC document... now another neocon think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, is giving us another warning... President Obama told delegates from 47 nations at the Nuclear Security Summit on Tuesday that it would be a "catastrophe for the world" if al-Qaeda or another terrorist group got a nuclear device, because so many lives would be lost and it would be so hard to mitigate damage from the blast. The document is designed to help local officials craft plans for responding to a nuclear blast. The prospect is anything but far-fetched, says Rick Nelson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "Do I think in my lifetime I'll see the detonation of a nuclear device? I do." Nuclear blast victims would have to wait USA TODAY well thank you, mr nelson mr nelson neglects to mention that the most likely suspect for any nuke detonation in america would be neocons who need that blast to rejuvenate their project to achieve benevolent global hegemony, or israelis who need to rally support for their ethnic cleansing project.
First the obvious they, Oh'bummer and his Masters - the banksters and CIA/Mossad, are expecting something. Now the nature of that something is a matter of speculation. In order of possibility (before I look at anyone elses): 1. A staged provocation made to look like "civil insurrection" (ala Seattle WTO, Montreal NAU) in order to attempt to justify a crackdown. Likely this would involve a lot of gratuitous police brutality to really agitate and outrage the crowd. Tea Partiers beware they fear you and you are the most likely venue to have provocateurs/instigators inserted into. The other would be a "Militia" pumped up by the Feral Bureau of Instigation. 2. A staged false flag "terror" event - possibly involving a nuclear weapon. 3. Obama is assassinated by a "lone nut" or there is an attempted assassination. 4. Massive obvious vote stealing in the Fall (s)Elections which are expected to be resisted by the citizenry. "2" and "3" are almost a tie. Beyond that they may have knowledge which is not yet public which is expected to inflame passions. Possibly forcing through a Shamnesty Bill.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Dear Army, We know who your parents are: the morons who drive around with bumper stickers stating that their brats are in the army. They shoot a civilian, we murder their parents. Best regards, _________________________________________________________________________ Yes he is, and guess what? His Hessian's will point their guns where there told, when there told. See Kent State, the Bonus Baby March, Waco and New Orleans post Katrina. The men who understand the Constitution are in Oath Keepers and other groups and deserve our support. These punks are punks. Those who still live in Oz will see our wonderful troops and their well honed brutality shortly. I would think it likely that belonging to Oathkeepers or some other Patriot group would likely be considered a disqualification for this unit. Of course they would never say that publicly, but then there are a lot of disreputable things the Brass do not want public.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Not sure what to think of this.
From groundresonance's link at #53: Just a suggestion...you should think happy thoughts about being on the other side of the police state border.
I have a pretty good idea of what might be the real reason behind this. I'm still collating data. My best guess though, is some kind of distraction to screw with the elections so Obama and company like Pelosi and Reid aren't given their walking papers. Something big enough to suspend the election until the next big boom is dropped on us all. Either way, like another poster said. The military needs to understand that we the people are the governing authority over them, and not the other way around.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
We've been under threat of this happening since Hiroshima and it hasn't happened yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened and wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
I'm curious. What image of the CommunityOrganizerKenyanIposterInChief does the Cdn MSM - CBC, Globe and Mail etc - present to the folks in Canada Land. Do they talk him up like he's the smartest most divine leader ever?
Same image I guess. Same MSM. (AP, Reuters, etc.) I can't say for certain because I don't pay much attention to it.
Yes, I do recall some of that, scrapper.
Yes, I do recall some of that, scrapper. That's so wrong! Cdn media don't need to worry about offending the DopeInChief- they don't need access. Leftie liars in media are all the same regardless of what nation they live in.
Honestly, I think all 80 thousand would get their asses handed to them if they fired on American citizens. People have had more than enough of this crap.
God is always good!
Cause they got shit for brains. Not hard to beat such a force. Iraqis aren't having much of a problem keeping them on their bases most of the time.
God is always good!
I think that those who own the media own both Obama and Harper.
Imho, it is highly unlikely that the American born would fire on American civilians. Rather they might in fact decide to be the defenders of American civilians. Frankly I don't believe that the PTB would take such a risk, wherein there's even a 10% [we're talking 8000 armed military] chance of blow back, because then their whole House of Cards would fall down. I think this info has been consciously planted/released to the media to cause shivers in rube land.
Hmmm....I think I know what you mean, wud...
lol Nice song anyways...
Oh, and I left one off the list - kicking myself now because it was so obvious. 5. Financial melt down and currency collapse. This would be followed by widespread industrial dysfunction, famine, and eventually riots.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
ALL troops home now! -- not just them. 4um topic cross reference: UPDATED: Connecting the dots on Obama’s Council of Governors
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Quite a question groundresonance. I do think that there is still human decency in this nation.....if you don't believe me go on vacation in Montana. : ) There is plenty worth saving......let us begin with what is left of our Constitution.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Depends on where they are deployed. For instance, citizens aren't armed in Chicago..... Looking back at the LA riots where the troops were brought in, it still took three days to regrain control. Of course, they do have those sound weapons at their disposal now.......
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I was viewing this aspect as the catylst that the huge event would divert attention from..........nothing to see here looky lous, we've got civil disorder in various places, focus on the uppity citizens not the government incompetence and corruption.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Are you concerned that 80K won't be enought to control the "radical" and uppity citizens of the US? Thanks for the link. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Actually the round up and internment of Japanese American citizens did happen.......
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
lol. clever, scrap.
I have changed my thinking on this of late: KEEP 'EM THERE is my new bumper sticker idea.
i worked in montana in the early 80s, in the plains just east of the rockies, between great falls and augusta... we stayed in augusta and choteau... right there amongst the missile silos... the teen pregnancy rate was astronomical, according to the locals... high school girls compensating for the missiles, i spose. anyhow, the military is going for green energy as fast as it can, which shows that they are anticipating oil shortages... it also shows a long-term sort of thought process, which would also show an intent to keep things under control for more-or-less ever. whether they'll have enough energy to keep it all together... who knows? meanwhile, will the peons be forced to humanize themselves again, if they have to cooperate to survive? will the peons have to stay in one place long enough to get to know each other, because they'll have to walk or ride a horse to wherever they're going? could it be that women would start selecting for productive, adaptive, decent mates, rather than predators and rich blowhards? ...would they start raising their kids to be respectful of reality instead of rock stars? *shrug*
So teen pregnancy equates to no human decency? If that is the case, then there has never been any human decency to speak of and we should not waste time lamenting what we never had. The US government owns Teslas patents.....there are other sources of energy that have been known for 100 years. Of course, sharing such knowledge would decrease profits for oil companies who line the politicians pockets. There will always be enough energy, groundresonance, fear not. I don't think you will be able to reform those evil women. Better to accept that ALL women are evil to the bone (maybe even through the bone). Many religious folks would say this is the corruption of Eve and you just can't fix that. Apparently, you agree on this point. It's good that you find agreement within the fundamentalists. Don't you agree? So, all children today are disrespectful......must be those evil women raising or not raising them. Apparently, evil begets evil. Why do you even foresee humanization as an alternative with such a perspective?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
i'm saying that living in the middle of a bunch of nuclear missile silos may have accounted for the high pregnancy rate... and to me, that seems to be a very human response to the certainty that, if reagan had pushed the button, that whole area of montana would have become a radioactive wasteland. you've got to admit that, in normal circumstances, women have a certain responsibility for the way their children turn out. sorry i hit such a sore spot.
HUGE responsibility....but where I disagree is that ALL kids are disrespectful and that ALL women are evil. It's those broad generalizations that I object too. You do realize that Montana has always had higher birth rates in colder months because people are stuck indoors and there's not a lot to do, right? This was true before the missile silos moved in. : ) Have you factored the cold weather into your teen pregnancy accounting?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
i am repeating what the locals told me, something like half the high school girls in town were pregnant, or had been. i did not say all women were evil... the worst i said about them is that they're human. mostly. cold weather means more fucking... well, good enough, and that probably explains why the planet is swamped with eskimos, and probably explains why montana is the third least-populated state in america. about tesla: if people make money selling the current forms of energy, dont you figure they'd figure out a way to make money from tesla's ideas, if they were workable? the whole cornicopian idea of endless free energy does not compute, from any standpoint at all, except maybe from one standpoint: the apparently inextinguishable human yearning for magic solutions to real problems... solutions including the pie-in-the-sky religions.
I believe that's been the reason why the government suppressed the patents and the information and wrote him out of the history books. Tesla's grand idea was FREE energy--he stated at the time there was no way to monetize it. Westinghouse backed away from funding his reasearch because they found they couldn't monetize it. Look at the world today--this is Tesla's world with cell phones, microwave, internet, HAARP and so much more. Were all of these "magic solutions"? At the time, people could not conceive it, but today we live it. I'll put my money on Tesla, given his PROVEN track record. The government couldn't wait to gobble up his patents and write him out of history. They sure went to a lot of trouble to supress what he knew.........don't you ever wonder WHY?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
so you think that every government in the world is cooperating to suppress tesla's magical energy sources.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
The US government took his patents. So there is no cooperation or lack of cooperation--one government holds them and suppresses them. Since Tesla was a Serbian national, Serbia tried to get the patents but were refused after Tesla's death. I do know that scientists in Australia are working on free energy based on bits and pieces of Tesla's work that hadn't been supressed. They are having good success, but it's slow with no government and no energy company funding. When you look at Tesla's body of knowledge you can see it in the US government-- just look at HAARP. Don't think for a minute other government wouldn't like to get their hands on that.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
meanwhile, eric stratton cant explain why those manifestly superior israelis havent decoded tesla's magic forumula, unveiled it to the world, declared the arrival of their benevolent global hegemony, and cranked up their tikkun olam. i guess, in order to do a decent repair job on the world, the israelis think they have to destroy more of it by using oldfashioned nukes.
My thinking as well. Having been in a Combat Arm in '65-'68, I've got a feel for the reflection capacity for the average troop. Not good.
if tesla's magic source is so complicated that it requires government funding, and takes so long to develop, then it must not be quite as "free" as it's cracked up to be. meanwhile, after huge strides across the board in scientific knowledge and computing capability, nobody's been able to duplicate tesla's work, or has stumbled onto tesla's source of energy. it doesnt hold water, and it smacks of another chemtrial, crop circle, abiotic oil, pie-in-the-sky myth.
Sheesh, look at the track record groundresonance. Tesla proved cell phone and internet communication A HUNDRED YEARS AGO--took awhile for the average mind to catch up and implement it. Most said his ideas were "pie in the sky myth" but that's not how we veiw them today. He designed what you see at the HAARP facility A HUNDERED YEARS AGO--took awhile to implement it with average goobermint scientists. I do know that his free energy concept has to do with the magnetic poles in the earth. He was using it when he was alive A HUNDERED years ago--so I wouldn't think it is THAT expensive, unless you consider the cost to energy companies when all the people no longer need what they are selling. There has been no strides like the strides Tesla made. In the past 100 hundred years the strides that have been made in his field of expertise have been made on his foundations. Even Einstein said that Tesla was THE GREATEST SCIENTIFIC MIND OF OUR TIME. Yet, you think these average joes can hold a candle........ Rather than arguing what you do not understand or have knowledge about, read up on Tesla.......then get back to me on what you find. What doesn't hold water is your analysis of a concept you have NO (nada, zip, zilch) understanding. Just because you can't fathom a concept, doesn't disprove it.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
so tesla's magical source of free energy is so complicated that after a hundred years, nobody's been able to duplicate it, despite the invention of computers, despite 100 more years accumulation of knowledge. show me some beef.
In such a situation, the major cities will run out of food within 24 to 28 hours. The rural, more heavily armed, areas will look after themselves first and will fight the fed when the feds try to seize all the food and resources (just like Stalin did in Ukraine) for their urban voting plantations.
Nobody? Took the goobermint a 100 years to get HAARP going. The goobermint has the patents. Who's to say the government hasn't implemented it? Like I said in prior posts--Austrailian scientists have had success in this field--a few others too but I'd have to research to recall exactly who they are. Instead, you should research the topic. You sit here and argue based only on what YOU can't fathom. Why don't you increase your own knowledge instead of arguing what you know nothing about? Time for you to find your own beef--begin with a simple google search of Tesla. You don't even fathom the mind of this man who at the age of 7 envisioned harnessing the energy of Niagra Falls and grew up to see his vision come to fruition--of course, that was "pie in the sky" myth before he did it. You wouldn't even have AC power without this man. The alternate current engine, which paved the way for industry in this nation--WAS ALL TESLA. Now, run along and educate yourself........
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
i concede. you win. of the six billion people on this planet, untold thousands of them have duplicated tesla's work, using the knowledge accumulated in the last 100 years, plus computers and vastly improved lab machinery. these people have all been bought off by exxon and the US government, in collusion with the UN, in the interest of preserving profits to arms manufacturers and energy companies. these people have all moved to new zealand, where they play in world-class yahtzee tournaments sponsored by the rockefeller foundation. i have seen the light, and the beef, and i have no further quarrel with you.
lol.......yeah it really is simply amazing, so difficult to comprehend, how any ol' tinkerer in the garage can't accomplish what the greatest mind since Newton could do. Even the scientists don't hold a candle to Tesla.........yet, you expect them all to accomplish what this genius could do. You just can't fathom that you are comparing a supreme apple to everyday oranges. Show me one of the 6 billion today that hold a candle to Tesla--JUST ONE. Your argument is ignorant--run along and educate yourself rather than expecting others to accomplish a goal of a man who was at least a hundered years ahead of his time. Tesla already proved that he could do WHAT NO OTHER COULD FATHOM--it's understandable that it takes others a hundred years to do what he did. Most can't think beyond their own tiny little perspective of possibility--Tesla never had that problem.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The Army Times source for this piece was from 2008, not 2010.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
A bit of delay in covering this important subject. Wouldn't want an informed public on such matters. That makes sense to me because all of this is possible with W's executive orders. I always said he was paving the way while his supporters refused to aknowledge this fact. He was simply setting the stage for the next puppet.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
In such a situation, the major cities will run out of food within 24 to 28 hours. The rural, more heavily armed, areas will look after themselves first and will fight the fed when the feds try to seize all the food and resources (just like Stalin did in Ukraine) for their urban voting plantations. Which is why I am glad to live near the city but not in the city. I also have a garden which I am expanding a lot this year. However, I'm small enough to avoid notice the way more rural people might be affected - I hope. We are looking at a nasty situation regardless, and pre-positioning troops to quell civil unrest is NOT a good sign. It means the PTB are expecting trouble. Lets just hope that the citizenry is up to giving them a bigger helping than they were expecting. However, something that people on this thread seem to have not taken into consideration is the mass weapons of population control - disease i.e., biological agents, chemical warfare, Electronic and Sound Wepons (think mood control frequencies on TV and Radio along with Sound Cannon), and militarizing Police Departments.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That makes sense to me because all of this is possible with W's executive orders. I always said he was paving the way while his supporters refused to aknowledge this fact. He was simply setting the stage for the next puppet. Duhbya was as much a puppet, and controlled by the same Banksters and Psychiatrists (thus the leak in "Slime" Magazine about his being on "anti-depressants" i.e., legal highly profitable Dope).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
dont forget the neutron bomb... it's supposed to irradiate people to death, but preserve the real estate. that's what i call a good deal.
Results 1 - 10 of about 18,200 for sharon we "control america".
Just remember, guns are immune to EMP. If they use any of the other wmd weapons, we're dead. They are doomsday weapons, with no way to defend against them, if they are used over and over in the same place. You either run out of gasmask filters (chemical), food (biological), or your bomb shelter collapses from the constant bombardment of nukes. On a side note, if the D.C. elitists do that, the other governments of the world will likely kill them to protect themselves from such destruction.
. Rather than responding to an incident within 96 hours of notification, the restructured unit will be able to respond within 24 hours of notification with up to 2,000 troops and an additional 3,000 within 48 hours. While the CCMRF will largely be made up of active-duty forces, a new response force will contain Guardmembers "One of the important requirements that we identified, and that we previously identified, frankly, was the need to be able to respond to multiple, simultaneous events," she said. "We felt strongly that we needed to have a federal ability to command and control multiple, simultaneous events." DoD relooks at plans for Guard response capabilities Mar 24, 2010 www.army.mil national guard people might be a problem... probly be hard to persuade them to shoot their neighbors, might even be hard to persuade them to shoot other americans, no matter where they ship the guard off to... so it makes sense that this outfit be made up of active duty guys who've been screened to make sure they have the proper psychopathic attitide, and have demonstrated that attitude in practice sessions in iraq and afghanistan. do you agree?
what if "the other governments of the world" have been observing american behavior, and have come to the conclusion that sharon was right about israel's control of america? who would the other governments of the world kill, then, to protect themselves?
in the best of all possible zionist worlds, we turn israel's samson option into a global samson option, with america carrying israel's water, dont we? one good deal after another for the dumb shits in israeli america.
You can be sure that if anyone gets close enough to the "Magic Negro" to off him it will be an inside job. The security around that guy is unbelievable, it is like they think they are guarding someone good and decent rather than a minion of Satan.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. ah. another sign of the imminent rapture. please rig your computer to automatically send us a farewell message after a certain amount of time, just in case you're sucked up out of your socks before you get a chance to say goodbye.
Not all of those 80,000 are combat troops. They couldn't secure a major US city. There are not enough in the entire armed forces to enforce martial law nationwide. This martial law scenario is another red herring, just like the chemtrail bullshit. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or well, if a couple of your favorite cities disappeared in mushroom clouds, maybe everybody would be stunned for a while... but the perps would have to get the local cops and national guard and everybody on the same page pretty quick, if you're right. the thing that bothers me is the russians, who stood for that kind of bullshit for hundreds of years... and when this latest revolution came, it came from the top, down. we really dont know, yet, how much gumption the american people have left, when it comes to this kind of thing. i'd say the chances are better that most americans would sit home, glued to the tube, swallowing every morsel of horseshit the media fed them... ...and we dont know the extent of the informer network yet... and that's gonna be a major problem if everybody's informing on each other. that's why i'm thinking there's not enough decency left ...not to mention... what? ...three or four generations' worth of zionist propaganda? ...crammed down people's throats. dont know.
the informer thing really bothers me... especially after watching how it's been working in iraq and afganistan... say you got a hard on for somebody, or some group of somebodies... you fabricate some kind of fairytale, feed it to the local political kommissar, who feeds it to the military, and the first thing you know, you got predators shooting rockets through the house... ...or, you stir up enough racial hatred ---a la the sunnis vs the shias in iraq- -- and let us kill each other off... there are probably arms dealers already licking their chops at the prospect of selling various american factions RPGs and IEDs and AKs and whatever.
the beauty of this false flag business, everybody's stunned for a while... everybody, that is, except the people who did the false flag. and they've been planning and planning and are ready to ram their policies through while everybody else is still in a daze... chertoff's patriot act after 9/11, for example.
He's wrong. By rights, We the People of the Constitution are the only lawful controlling shareholders of America 100%, and wannabe usurpers and gangsters like him only think they have the run of this place.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
quote your rights in one hand and shit in the other, and see which hand gets full faster.
Are you concerned that 80K won't be enought to control the "radical" and uppity citizens of the US? They should all be here at home. If that would make the radical and uppity tyrants uncomfortable, good. Thanks for the link. : ) You're very welcome. :)
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Don't be so pessimistic. Attacking our rights doesn't make our rights any less valid. It just makes the attackers outlaws here.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Nice statement.
yes, i've noticed that american penitentiaries are filled with israeli war criminals, israeli false flag artists and israeli human rights violators.
9/11 was a pretty slick operation, i have to admit... the israelis and israeli americans ---quite aware, thank you, of peak oil--- lured the american oil guys, like cheney, bush and lee raymond of exxon into the project with visions of billions of barrels of cheap oil, and visions of enough turmoil in central asia and pakistan that china wouldnt have access to persian gulf oil. the americans bit, hook line and sinker, participated in the 9/11 operation, which was, of course, the new pearl harbor they admitted they needed to get their PNAC project started. the beauty comes in when you realize that the american government cannot tell the truth now, about anything, because that would blow the cover of the 9/11 false flag operation... ...for instance, the most pressing problem we have is peak oil, which was the primary cause of the PNAC operation, seeing as how israel must be secured before its american protector runs out of gas... but the american government cannot admit to peak oil and rally support for ways to deal with peak oil, because then people would connect the dots... peak oil, israel, 9/11, the war on terror. so the american government is fucked, and all they can do is lie their asses off, and hope that everyone's forgotten about 9/11 by the time peak oil becomes too obvious to deny. so here we are, a trillion or so dollars later, no oil to speak of coming from iraq to show for our investment, but israel can breathe easier because the american dumbbells wiped out one of their primary enemies. not content with that, the israelis and israeli americans and the US congress are agitating for more war against another of israel's enemies, iran. that'll cost another couple trillion, probably more, and we'll still have the wars cooking along in iraq and afghanistan... in the meantime, we could have bought the oil without the trillions of dollars of war surcharges we're now paying to defend israel... americans are pretty goddamned stupid. but at least israel feels more secure with america mired ass over teakettle in the middle east. israel's still got a long ways to go before it's secure, especially if global warming turns out the be the real thing... the worst case melting would flood out 70% of the israeli population, which accounts for israel's relentless gnawing at the high gound in the west bank as it surrenders gaza, which is at sea level. and it doesnt make much difference how long this flooding takes, because israel must be secured now, before america, the big dumb muscle, runs out of gas.
anyhow, the american government cant admit to any of this without incriminating itself and israel, so we're stuck with lame excuses about bringing democracy to iraq and ensuring women's rights in afghanistan. any mention of israel's role in all this is strictly forbidden, and enforced by the main media gatekeepers, AIPAC, the ADL, and the whores for israel otherwise known as congressmen and senators. and that's just how it is... as the price of oil climbs, more people will start connecting the dots, and the government is anticipating a little unrest as a result... ...so we have combat-hardened psychopaths ready to move into american cities to keep a lid on things. it all hangs together.
Imagine how much oil we wouldn't need if there were underwater tidal and wave- powered wheels or something along coastlines generating energy for us.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
it isnt a matter of imagination... it's a matter of physics, and there's nothing in the tech pipeline, so far, that comes close to replacing oil, especially for transportation... ...including lykos, or fixxbah or whatever his name was, that invented the perpetual motion magical mystery energy tourbus. tesla (brain fart, there, for a second)
Thank you very much. Now, what to do about all those outlaws running wild around here? I think they should be dropped from America's citizenship rolls because they aren't really of our system and should be given a different designation like "Soviet Satelites" or something. Also, we should be able arrest them or try them in-absentia. Afterall, Brits and others think they can arrest foreign dignitaries on their soil, even off their soil, and these outlaw dudes and dudettes around here are just masquerading as "authorities". No sense expecting them to arrest themselves. Eventually, real Americans have to realize that's a task we need to do ourselves and stop himhawing about it like maybe we should outsource that responsibility to Mercenaries or whatever.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
There's synthetic oil on the market. I've even heard of cars that can run on garbage like used french-fry oil.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
2. Now, what to do about all those outlaws running wild around here? I think they should be dropped from America's citizenship rolls because they aren't really of our system and should be given a different designation like "Soviet Satelites" or something. Also, we should be able arrest them or try them in-absentia. Afterall, Brits and others think they can arrest foreign dignitaries on their soil, even off their soil, and these outlaw dudes and dudettes around here are just masquerading as "authorities". No sense expecting them to arrest themselves. Eventually, real Americans have to realize that's a task we need to do ourselves and stop himhawing about it like maybe we should outsource that responsibility to Mercenaries or whatever. 1. You're welcome. 2. Yea, it is all going off the rails. The elitists, have set up a crash of the currency markets, precious metals markets (such gold and silver), stock markets, economies, property, nations and several major current civilizations (not just nations) on Earth to crash at once. I have looked into several nations and markets, they are virtually all intentionally primed for collapse. The closest thing I have found for people to be a safe investment is guns and ammo and I am not even sure of that. And there is no where safe to run too. Lets be honest, the elitists are insane. They think they are starting minor brush fires all over the world that they can control. Too turn the world into a feudal global tyranny ruled by the elitists. What they are creating is a major firestorm that might make the wars of the previous century look like Sunday school picnics.
sounds to me like you need to do some homework... at least attempt to get a handle on the scale of the problem... america burns about 19 million barrels of oil a day... a barrel of oil is 42 gallons, so we're burning about 800 million gallons of french fry grease a day... which is about two and a half gallons per person per day.
the absolute worst part of the situation is this: the government is so high- centered on the 9-11/israel situation that it cant admit the truth, and mobilize properly to deal with peak oil. and now the situation has degenerated to the point that, even if the government told the truth about peak oil, no one would believe them, because people are disinclined to believe the government about anything. not to mention we got dingbats like alex jones, exxon, the AEI, CERA and tons of other loony tunes, especially economists and libertarians, attempting to deny peak oil with various hare-brained conspiracy and/or economic theories, none of which make any sense at all once you think about the whole situation for a while. meanwhile, the official government stats on oil production show that global production of crude oil and lease condensate peaked, year on year, in 2005, and that should be headline news. instead of headlines, we get total disregard from the mass media, and the government itself buries the stats in a dismal sort of database that's unhandy to get to, all of which is no wonder, in light of the fact that peak oil was the most pressing cause of the 9/11 false flag. here's the government website that reports oil production.. the table to look at is 1.1d, crude oil and condensate. part of the deception is the government's lumping french fry oil, tar sands oil, ethanol, palm oil, and vitalis in with crude oil production for their final "world oil supply" (table 1.4) figures.
Let's start building our own economy, stop trading with them, and not be distracted by their noiZ and nonsense as much as possible.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Someone tore a page from the Robert Mugabe HANDBOOK FOR SATISFACTORY DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS.
"I’m not going to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death."_Unknown
...which mugabe plagiarized from the NED, the national endowment for democracy.
sounds to me like you need to do some homework... at least attempt to get a handle on the scale of the problem... I'd rather keep watching music videos at the moment, if you don't mind too much. Might as well not burn midnight oil on that chore when I could do it better during the daytime after I'm rested up, eh? lol america burns about 19 million barrels of oil a day... a barrel of oil is 42 gallons, so we're burning about 800 million gallons of french fry grease a day... which is about two and a half gallons per person per day. Imagine how much oil we wouldn't need to burn if we brought the troops home. pipes of peace - paul mccartney Say it with me: All troops home now!
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
All troops home now! All troops home now!
That was wonderful! -- like music to my ears. Peace. :)
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
That was wonderful! -- like music to my ears. ...provided, of course, that, upon their arrival in the states, we take their weapons away from them, discharge them from the military, send them to rehab, and put them on probation for 5 years.
There you go again being pessimistic, meanspirited, and UnConstitutional too! You are grounded now, buster! No more videos tonight for you. Slamming the door on my way out...
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
you think it would be a good idea to leave those combat vets in the military? it's time you started thinking of a subsidiary function of these wars: combat training with live ammo, training for the real mission, which is keeping americans in line as we descend into ever deeper israeli and israeli american horseshit. america has to be held together as long as possible, by force of arms if necessary, to provide protection for israel as it completes its ethnic cleansing of the west bank. not to mention the fact that gas rationing is inevitable, and the general economic conditions will deteriorate... as the GDP shrinks, ever greater percentage will be siphoned off to protect israel, which will accelerate the decline of americans' standard of living. so the big cheeses will need a military to protect them from hungry, angry mobs.
i guess the basic question is this: do you think our israeli masters give a shit about how many americans are killed in the name of law and order, if that's what it takes to keep those checks rolling in to israel?
No but their idea of law and order doesn't jive with Constitutional America's. Who do you think would have any deterrant effect on their Tyrannosaurus Rex routines if the Military was layed off and disarmed? You? Don't make me laugh. I'm still annoyed with you right now.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This is true. But we gained a lot of numbers after this happened. We gained more since then. They woke up from their daze. Those that didn't, well, you have to ask yourselves if you really want those idiots on your side. My point is that they just don't have the numbers to enforce this martial law. This is a huge country. About the only thing they could ever do is block off a few cities, keeping people bottled up. Meanwhile, back on the ranch, mischief is the order of the day... About the only ones that give credence to this martial law scenario are the people that don't know how big this country is because they haven't traveled it. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or doubtful any of the shakers and movers, zionists or otherwise, believe martial law is anything more than a stopgap, a tactic. i'm thinking of a group of people, the most successful predators on earth, who buy a video camera ---ultrahigh rez, 3D, stereo--- and this camera produces the most faithful reproduction of reality possible... the predators know what reality is. they know that peak oil will cripple the global economy, they know that global warming will cause the dislocation of billions of people, they know that israel ---while being useful in the short term--- was such a bad idea from the start that it's doomed... they know that martial law in america is unsustainable. okay. that's what the ultimate reality video shows... so the predators send that video to dreamworks or james cameron for editing... and the editors come up with three or four versions, each version tailored to appeal to different factions of underdogs... meanwhile, the raw footage (reality) is top secret, reserved for use by the predators, while the different versions of the video are distributed to manipulate the underdog factions to behave in predictable ways, ways that can be exploited to make the predators more powerful, more wealthy. it looks like that's what's happening. . it wouldnt surprise me at all if the predators installed a dictatorship of some kind in america, a dictatorship defended by returning combat vets possibly privatized into blackwater or whatever... then the predators encourage the dictatorship to murder a few million people, "in defense of america". meanwhile, the predators are setting up factions to rebel against the dictatorship, as the dictatorship discredits itself by murdering all those people... the ensuing rebellion leading to the disintegration of america. also meanwhile, the real assets left in america are finding their way into predators' hands as america disintegrates... it will be something like the disintegration and looting of the soviet union, only bloodier. it's likely the predators will have a plan to defang israel before it defames jewishness past redemption with its samson option... or maybe the predators would just as soon get rid of jewishness altogether... whatever, the first tactic will probably be an attempt to buy the israeli leadership off ---israeli leadership will be offered gulfstreams stuffed with gold, and passports to wherever they want to establish their next colony... if the israeli leadership doesnt bite on the buyout, well, the predators' problem becomes, "how do we make sure the israelis dont obliterate the persian gulf oilfields with their samson option as they go under?" and that situation leads to all kinds of possibilities, most of them ugly.
the more i think about the quote above, the more i think it's wrong. it's likely, seeing as how jewishness has been such a useful tool down through the ages, that the predators will attempt to preserve jewishness, and they will dispose of israel in a way that will increase sympathy for jews, especially in light of the damage israel has done to jewishness. . defining "predators"... neocons, mostly jewish, with corporate fascist fellow travelers, and deathwish christian meatheads to make up the numbers, who are otherwise not to be taken seriously.
I trust we here at least are not that ready to be bluffed so easily! I agree with your general analysis as to the scenarios that the control-freak elites are hatching from their anal regions BUT we must realize that the best-laid plans of mice (rats) etc etc. Consider that all of the genetically engineered bio-weapons (AIDS, SARS, WNV, Bird Flu, H1N1 etc) released so far on a mass scale as ongoing testing have been duds, basically. And deployment of the tried and true diseases to reach significant numbers is actually very problematic. You could counter that all that is needed is a handful of deaths, with the MSM liars of the media-Matrix doing their mercenary best to blow the psychopaths' hard-on out of all proportion and let fear do the rest. However, the other tricks, the mind-control through the media-Matrix, both the explicit propaganda and the subliminal and psychotronic varieties, ARE ALREADY GOING FULL BLAST NOW! Just as the chemtrail project proceeds at full tilt, there are many dirty tricks in full deployment now, in a futile attempt to delay the awakening threshold point. As to the new high tech gadgets, even if they will be delivered in sufficient numbers before November 2010, they are far less robust than the traditional hardware: one well-placed round per unit, from a distance out of operational range and that toy is toast. The media blackout on the awakening distorts our perception of how close to game over we really are AND the game DEPENDS on being below the level of ordinary perception. Tilt the game too hard, cause people to see clearly for one moment the source and monstrous intent of the attack and the reaction is literally unpredictable. Tell even 9/10's of the big IP providers to shut down their T3 nodes and videos will still get posted and propagate world-wide in seconds. DARPA designed the Internet to be proof from decimation by nuclear war and did their job too well! The how-to videos on disabling the dirty tricks used against the sovereign citizens will get around faster than the controllers can react. Again, if some of the poorest and most brutalized people on the planet can find ingenious ways to force brute forces to stay within their fortresses, how predictable does anyone think an out in the open end game will play here?
Exactly much of their manipulations psyops etc., depends upon the subject being unaware that he/she is being manipulated. Once someone has that light bulb go on as to the existence of the manipulations they begin immediately to lose their effect. I am still hoping it does not come to violence and that the wake-up will begin occurring in sufficient numbers to constrain their ability to act. The "Tea Party" crowd is on the verge of waking up, some no doubt have, but a catalyst is needed to speed the reaction and the change. I can feel it coming but my gift is not strong enough to give me much more than a sense of it. And I have been wrong before, but not this time I don't think. Although I am much better with weather predictions. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The "Tea Party" crowd is on the verge of waking up, some no doubt have, but a catalyst is needed to speed the reaction and the change. I can feel it coming but my gift is not strong enough to give me much more than a sense of it. And I have been wrong before, but not this time I don't think. Although I am much better with weather predictions. ;-) Agreed that it will NOT come to a force-of-arms, push-come-to-shove scenario, even though some may fantasize that they will magically find their courage when events reduce to that level of simplicity, matching their level of understanding... 8=> I was merely trying to blunt the fear bluff with reason. We ask ourselves: "What is the worst that can happen?" Even if the answer is death, we can then go back up the list and reason with our fears until we master them. One way to strengthen any gift is to trust it more. Your finely honed intuition has served you well so far! It is not about predicting the day, which no man can, but in being prepared and maintaining morale until dawn breaks; preparing confidently for the new day even in the darkest edge of night. Thanks for the reply.
My pleasure. I always enjoy our exchanges. You provoke me to think - and this is a good thing. And yes there are fates worse than death. Although there are things about him I do not like Winston Churchill had a flair for eloquently describing human realities. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"DIVORCE AGREEMENT!!" ...WooHOOO!! THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT'S BY A YOUNG PERSON, A STUDENT!!! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I'LL VOTE FOR HIM. Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al: We have stuck together since the late 1950's for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce.... I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model separation agreement: Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar and biodiesel. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them). We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, parmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World. We'll practice trickle down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you Answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years. Sincerely, P. S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you. P. S. S. And you won't have to press 1 for English when you call our country. *Please note the new format for e-mail addresses reflecting the merger of SUEZ with GDF. Our physical office addresses and telephone numbers remain the same. Told ya...MUD
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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#3. To: abraxas (#1)
Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
#4. To: abraxas (#0)
o what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized? During the anti-war riots of the 1960s they killed student protesters. What about now?
#5. To: abraxas, move along little sheeple (#1)
#6. To: abraxas (#0)
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The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.
The 82d Aviation Brigade employed 132 AH-1 Cobra, OH-58 Scout, AH- 64 Apache, and UH-60 Blackhawk aircraft, approximately 325 ground vehicles, and 1,300 troopers.
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#9. To: abraxas (#1)
Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
#10. To: PaulCJ (#9)
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light the fire and it is not going to be pretty
#11. To: abraxas (#1)
#12. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
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look for "a good reason" for the FedGov to clamp down
#13. To: abraxas (#0)
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4.9.2010
By Greg Ericson
#14. To: abraxas, F.A. Hayek Fan (#8)
#15. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
So look for "a good reason" for the FedGov to clamp down, meaning one that most people will buy, meaning that like 9/11, it must be a perceived threat, not necessarily a real one, and it won't be truthful which goes without saying at this stage of the game, and one that threatens harm to most if not all Americans such that they're willing to trade away the farm simply for protection from whatever the threat is
#16. To: abraxas (#0)
However, it has become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an 'incident' that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens' guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it is deemed 'safe' to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#17. To: abraxas (#0)
#18. To: farmfriend (#16)
However, it has become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an 'incident' that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens' guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it is deemed 'safe' to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote.
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#20. To: Eric Stratton (#19)
Boy, that guy Boatner sure is full O shit, isn't he!
#21. To: abraxas (#15)
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#24. To: Eric Stratton, all (#22)
He is a POS anti-liberty American, and there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions just like him in the military and LE.
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#27. To: Eric Stratton (#21)
Remember, weapons change hands.
#28. To: abraxas (#27)
Good point........I'm just thinking 80K is a small force even to control a major city, although they did quite a job of disarming citizens during Katrina.
#29. To: abraxas (#27)
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a half dozen or less cities
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#31. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)
"As for the question of whether or not soldiers will fire on American citizens, my opinion is yes, they will fire on us in a New York minute."
#32. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
The citizens were caught w/ their pants down and didn't fight back. Ain't gonna happen when the man made shit starts.
#33. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
So you're thinking false flag FedGov ops in two/three areas?
#34. To: Eric Stratton (#26)
PS Oathkeepers isn't nearly big enough, what, like 3% of the forces?
#35. To: All (#32)
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The citizens were caught w/ their pants down and didn't fight back. Ain't gonna happen when the man made shit starts.
#36. To: scrapper2 (#4)
Here's some delicious punch flavored kool-aid to calm your little rube self down. I got the recipe from either a Nester or a Kossack, I can't keep them straight. Burp.
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#38. To: All (#34)
#39. To: Eric Stratton (#38)
#40. To: ndcorup (#31)
We were ready to in '68. I had returned from the Orient and stepped into Riot Control training at Ft. Hood. The Drilling was unrelenting, until I got onto the Pistol Team.
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#44. To: Lod (#41)
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#47. To: Flintlock, abraxas, ALL (#17)
www.thenewamerican.com/in...regarding-posse-comitatus
#48. To: Eric Stratton (#44)
#49. To: christine (#47)
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While Obama and his team are making it sound as if they will use the military in a non-combative roll, part of the training being conducted is in urban warfare,”
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#51. To: Lod (#48)
#52. To: christine (#47)
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#53. To: All (#52)
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The White House has warned state and local governments not to expect a "significant federal response" at the scene of a terrorist nuclear attack for 24 to 72 hours after the blast, according to a planning guide.
#54. To: abraxas (#1)
Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
#55. To: abraxas (#0)
To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such 'civil unrest' should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized?
Your civilian masters
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
He is a POS anti-liberty American, and there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions just like him in the military and LE.
#57. To: abraxas (#1)
Hmmmmmmmmm.......what do you all think of this?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#58. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, groundresonance, all (#54)
2. A staged false flag "terror" event - possibly involving a nuclear weapon.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#59. To: wudidiz (#57)
Not sure what to think of this.
#60. To: abraxas (#0)
#61. To: abraxas, All (#58)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#62. To: scrapper2 (#59)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#63. To: wudidiz (#61)
#64. To: scrapper2 (#63)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#65. To: scrapper2 (#63)
Do they talk him up like he's the smartest most divine leader ever?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#66. To: wudidiz (#65)
Do they talk him up like he's the smartest most divine leader ever?
#67. To: abraxas (#0)
#68. To: ndcorup (#31)
But I can assure everyone that the average joe the G.I. Will fire when ordered.
#69. To: scrapper2 (#66)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#70. To: RickyJ (#67)
Honestly, I think all 80 thousand would get their asses handed to them if they fired on American citizens.
#71. To: wudidiz (#69)
I think that those who own the media own both Obama and Harper.
#72. To: scrapper2 (#71)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#73. To: wudidiz, abraxas (#58)
#74. To: abraxas (#0)
The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops.
#75. To: groundresonance (#52)
is there any sense in violent resistance if there's no foundation of human decency behind that resistance?
#76. To: RickyJ (#67)
Honestly, I think all 80 thousand would get their asses handed to them if they fired on American citizens. People have had more than enough of this crap.
#77. To: Original_Intent (#73)
5. Financial melt down and currency collapse. This would be followed by widespread industrial dysfunction, famine, and eventually riots.
#78. To: GreyLmist (#74)
ALL troops home now! -- not just them.
#79. To: wudidiz (#61)
We've been under threat of this happening since Hiroshima and it hasn't happened yet.
#80. To: scrapper2 (#71)
#81. To: GreyLmist (#74)
ALL troops home now! -- not just them.
#82. To: abraxas (#75)
(Edited)
go on vacation in Montana
#83. To: groundresonance (#82)
the teen pregnancy rate was astronomical, according to the locals... high school girls compensating for the missiles, i spose.
#84. To: abraxas (#83)
(Edited)
teen pregnancy equates to no human decency
#85. To: groundresonance (#84)
you've got to admit that, in normal circumstances, women have a certain responsibility for the way their children turn out.
#86. To: abraxas (#85)
(Edited)
your teen pregnancy accounting
#87. To: groundresonance (#86)
about tesla: if people make money selling the current forms of energy, dont you figure they'd figure out a way to make money from tesla's ideas, if they were workable?
#88. To: abraxas (#87)
the reason why the government suppressed the patents
#89. To: abraxas (#87)
#90. To: groundresonance (#88)
so you think that every government in the world is cooperating to suppress tesla's magical energy sources.
#91. To: Eric Stratton (#89)
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#92. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#40)
"GI's are going to do a whole lot of killing before the rank-in-file begin to question what they are doing and even more killing before they start going AWOL. "
#93. To: abraxas (#90)
(Edited)
scientists in Australia are working on free energy based on bits and pieces of Tesla's work that hadn't been supressed. They are having good success, but it's slow with no government and no energy company funding.
#94. To: groundresonance (#93)
if tesla's magic source is so complicated that it requires government funding, and take so long to develop, then it must not be quite as "free" as it's cracked up to be.
#95. To: abraxas (#94)
your analysis of a concept you have NO (nada, zip, zilch) understanding
#96. To: Original_Intent (#73)
5. Financial melt down and currency collapse. This would be followed by widespread industrial dysfunction, famine, and eventually riots.
#97. To: groundresonance (#95)
(Edited)
nobody's been able to duplicate it, despite the invention of computers, despite 100 more years accumulation of knowledge.
#98. To: abraxas (#97)
(Edited)
#99. To: groundresonance (#98)
#100. To: abraxas (#0)
#101. To: SonOfLiberty (#100)
The Army Times source for this piece was from 2008, not 2010.
#102. To: PaulCJ, abraxas, wudidiz, Jethro Tull, Twenty Twelve, all (#96)
5. Financial melt down and currency collapse. This would be followed by widespread industrial dysfunction, famine, and eventually riots.
#103. To: abraxas (#101)
A bit of delay in covering this important subject. Wouldn't want an informed public on such matters.
#104. To: Original_Intent (#102)
people on this thread seem to have not taken into consideration is the mass weapons of population control
#105. To: Original_Intent (#103)
controlled by the same Banksters and Psychiatrists
#106. To: Original_Intent (#102)
However, something that people on this thread seem to have not taken into consideration is the mass weapons of population control - disease i.e., biological agents, chemical warfare, Electronic and Sound Wepons (think mood control frequencies on TV and Radio along with Sound Cannon), and militarizing Police Departments.
#107. To: SonOfLiberty (#100)
(Edited)
The Army Times source for this piece was from 2008, not 2010
The changes ahead, which came about as a result of the 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review, include a reworking of the organization of the CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF.
#108. To: PaulCJ (#106)
(Edited)
if the D.C. elitists do that, the other governments of the world will likely kill them to protect themselves from such destruction.
#109. To: PaulCJ (#106)
(Edited)
#110. To: Original_Intent (#54)
3. Obama is assassinated by a "lone nut" or there is an attempted assassination.
Lord Acton
#111. To: James Deffenbach (#110)
(Edited)
a minion of Satan
#112. To: groundresonance (#107)
so it makes sense that this outfit be made up of active duty guys who've been screened to make sure they have the proper psychopathic attitide, and have demonstrated that attitude in practice sessions in iraq and afghanistan.
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#113. To: PSUSA (#112)
(Edited)
This martial law scenario is another red herring
#114. To: PSUSA (#112)
(Edited)
#115. To: PSUSA (#112)
#116. To: groundresonance (#105)
Results 1 - 10 of about 18,200 for sharon we "control america".
#117. To: GreyLmist (#116)
#118. To: abraxas (#78)
#119. To: groundresonance (#117)
#120. To: GreyLmist (#119)
Don't be so pessimistic. Attacking our rights doesn't make our rights any less valid. It just makes the attackers outlaws here.
#121. To: GreyLmist (#119)
(Edited)
makes the attackers outlaws here
#122. To: GreyLmist (#119)
(Edited)
#123. To: GreyLmist (#118)
#124. To: GreyLmist (#119)
#125. To: groundresonance (#124)
#126. To: GreyLmist (#125)
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#127. To: PaulCJ (#120)
Nice statement.
#128. To: groundresonance (#126)
#129. To: GreyLmist (#127)
1. Thank you very much.
#130. To: GreyLmist (#128)
(Edited)
There's synthetic oil on the market. I've even heard of cars that can run on garbage like used french-fry oil.
#131. To: GreyLmist (#128)
(Edited)
#132. To: PaulCJ (#129)
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#133. To: abraxas (#0)
However, it has become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an 'incident' that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens' guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it is deemed 'safe' to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote.
#134. To: HOUNDDAWG (#133)
(Edited)
HANDBOOK FOR SATISFACTORY DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS
#135. To: groundresonance (#130)
#136. To: GreyLmist (#135)
(Edited)
Imagine...
#137. To: groundresonance (#136)
All troops home now!
#138. To: GreyLmist (#137)
(Edited)
All troops home now!
#139. To: groundresonance (#138)
#140. To: GreyLmist (#139)
#141. To: GreyLmist (#139)
(Edited)
#142. To: groundresonance (#141)
#143. To: groundresonance (#115)
and they've been planning and planning and are ready to ram their policies through while everybody else is still in a daze... chertoff's patriot act after 9/11, for example.
COONTACT! die kill ~~ Me
#144. To: PSUSA (#143)
(Edited)
About the only ones that give credence to this martial law scenario are the people that don't know how big this country is because they haven't traveled it.
#145. To: All (#144)
it's likely the predators will have a plan to defang israel before it defames jewishness past redemption with its samson option... or maybe the predators would just as soon get rid of jewishness altogether... whatever, the first tactic will probably be an attempt to buy the israeli leadership off ---israeli leadership will be offered gulfstreams stuffed with gold, and passports to wherever they want to establish their next colony...
#146. To: Original_Intent (#102)
(Edited)
We are looking at a nasty situation regardless, and pre-positioning troops to quell civil unrest is NOT a good sign. It means the PTB are expecting trouble. Lets just hope that the citizenry is up to giving them a bigger helping than they were expecting. However, something that people on this thread seem to have not taken into consideration is the mass weapons of population control - disease i.e., biological agents, chemical warfare, Electronic and Sound Wepons (think mood control frequencies on TV and Radio along with Sound Cannon), and militarizing Police Departments.
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!
#147. To: HighLairEon (#146)
The media blackout on the awakening distorts our perception of how close to game over we really are AND the game DEPENDS on being below the level of ordinary perception.
Again, if some of the poorest and most brutalized people on the planet can find ingenious ways to force brute forces to stay within their fortresses, how predictable does anyone think an out in the open end game will play here?
#148. To: Original_Intent (#147)
(Edited)
I am still hoping it does not come to violence and that the wake-up will begin occurring in sufficient numbers to constrain their ability to act.
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!
#149. To: HighLairEon (#148)
Thanks for the reply.
"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves." ~ Winston Churchill
#150. To: abraxas, Eric Stratton, SammieGee, JimmieDee, war (#1)
Yes, I agree, Marriage is a Blessed institution, but sometimes a cordial divorce is BEST fer all involved...
John J. Wall
Law Student and an American
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#151. To: Mudboy Slim (#150)
#152. To: Mudboy Slim (#150)
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