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Title: SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER PUBLISHES PATRIOT HIT LIST
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin583.htm
Published: Apr 21, 2010
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2010-04-21 09:52:06 by christine
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In a report on its web site dated April 2010, entitled "Meet The Patriots," the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) profiled "36 individuals at the heart of the resurgent [patriot] movement." (In reading the list, I counted only 35 "patriots" and 5 "enablers" for a total of 40. I'm not really sure how the SPLC came up with "36." Perhaps their ability to count is commensurate with their ability to appreciate patriotism and liberty.) The SPLC (founded by Morris Dees) sees itself as America's guardian against "right wing militias" and loves to label conservatives and libertarians that it doesn't like as "extremists." The SPLC is one of the most ultra-liberal organizations in the country and should be dismissed as a group of paranoid leftists, not worthy of thought or mention. The sad truth is, however, our federal government has chosen to exalt the SPLC to the position of being its "go to" source for information regarding "potential domestic terrorists" and similar characterizations. As a result, the information and reports disseminated by SPLC wind up in police reports and bulletins all over the United States. As an example, the SPLC had its fingerprints all over the infamous MIAC report. One could even question whether the SPLC is merely a front organization for Big Brother. Therefore, it is highly likely that the report negatively profiling 40 American patriots will find its way into Department of Homeland Security (DHS) fusion centers and be distributed to police agencies all across the country. So, should the 40 people who find themselves targeted by SPLC expect some kind of government/police attention? Are we really that close to Nazi-style persecution in America? If the SPLC has its way, the answer seems to be a definite yes. I remind readers that in the book, Nazi Justiz: Law of the Holocaust (page 3), there were five steps to Hitler's plans for the destruction of European Jews. Step 1: Identification/registration of the targeted group as a public menace. Step 2: Ostracism of the targeted persons. Step 3: property confiscation. Step 4: Concentration of members into geographical locations. Step 5: Annihilation. In this latest report, SPLC seems quite willing to accomplish steps 1 and 2. Here are the 40 names that are targeted in the SPLC report (and guess who is listed at the very top? Yours truly):
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Ron Paul, Glen Beck, Norm Olsen (he hasn't been on the circuit in 20 years)....if this doesn't discredit this sad bunch, nothing will.
Here are the 40 names that are targeted in the SPLC report (and guess who is listed at the very top? Yours truly): These 40 people if ever able to focus on THE FED ISSUE could sho nuff make a lot a freakin noise ... and they damn well should ! Now !!! Fuck Mo Dees and the SPLC and while were at it ... D.C. and everyone sucking off of the American teat !
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
No shit. Ted Gunderson and Red Beckman are about 80 years old !!!
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
on the go isn't a realistic option for me.
"Anarchy is any social relationship that involves neither dominance nor submission. It is the absence of social hierarchy, with no one imposing their will on another by force or threat of punishment. Anarchy means "without a ruler", or "without government". Government here is meant in the sense of "governing over" and forcing compliance through coercion. Such order is violent order. Anarchy, by contrast, is inherently cooperative- people relating to one another as equals."
I think I might be an anarchist as soon as we get even with the fucktards that have invaded and destroyed joy of life for the last 100 years. (Probably longer than a millenium, but it's hard to hate that much without irreversible side effects.)
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Exactly. Poverty pimps and race-baiting hustlers, the whole freakin' lot of them. And Dees is the worst. Still, if people paid them no attention and would stop being stupid and sending them money they would hush and go away.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Interesting list. It seems to be a mixed bag between those I consider somewhat trustworthy (for now) and those that I wouldn't so much as follow into the kitchen under any circumstances, and some I never heard of. I wonder what the point was. Are they trying to boost the credibility of people like Beck by "attacking" him? The SPLC knows it is one of the most despised .orgs out there. I don't get it. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Having now gone to the article and having read who all the bad folks are that the SPLC seems to be wetting themselves over all I could do (to the members of the SPLC) would be to point and laugh. And talk about what a sad bunch of bed wetters they are. A real terrifying bunch these people are, eh? Here are the 40 names that are targeted in the SPLC report (and guess who is listed at the very top? Yours truly): 1. Chuck Baldwin, Pastor, Radio Broadcaster, Syndicated Columnist, 2008 Constitution Party Presidential nominee. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Some scary people.....
Why did you post those scary pictures? They will probably disturb my mid-day nap. Now you've done it!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ya know, if they waited for all of us old farts to croak the future may see two sets of gang bangers going at it ... rich kids vs. po kids ... gimme the po kids for a C-Note !
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
Rest assured that the roster is well salted.
We need another Senator McCarthy who has his list of anti-constitutionalists, marxists, leninists and communists in an effort to level the playing field.
Surely the SPLC would make that list right after the fraud currently occupying the White House, the Kenyan. He would be the top of the list, they would be second.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. McCarthy took up the cause from Martin Dies of HUAC. HUAC was created to hunt for NAZI spies etc, when they found none, but instead found lots of communist spies, Dies was finished. "A member of the Democratic Party, Dies was first elected to the Senate in 1931. A passionate anti-communist, Dies was the first chairman of the Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) that was established in 1937. Soon afterwards Dies received a telegram from the Ku Klux Klan: "Every true American, and that includes every Klansman, is behind you and your committee in its effort to turn the country back to the honest, freedom-loving, God-fearing American to whom it belongs."
It makes me so sad that my work and advocacy go unrecognized. I had hoped so much to make the list this year. Well, there's always next year I guess.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Maybe that is where we should be looking for a leader ... in the membership of the KKK!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
I know what you mean. I was all breathless with anticipation that I would finally make the cut and get on the SPLC's enemies list. D@mn, foiled again! But as you say next year we'll make it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Guessing that Aaron Zellman, founder of JPFO, is pissed that he's not on the list.
I bet he isn't any more pissed off than SOL and I that we are not on the list.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I am not sure why, but that list reminds me of these two links: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwik.../ArsonMurderAndJaywalking tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AndZoidberg LOL!
Yeah, those were funny. Thanks.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. As in Kosher salt?
Jews play both sides of the street. In this case they WANT the rubes to accept all 36 or whatever as patriots, it aint true.
Therefore, it is highly likely that the report negatively profiling 40 American patriots will find its way into Department of Homeland Security (DHS) fusion centers and be distributed to police agencies all across the country. So, should the 40 people who find themselves targeted by SPLC expect some kind of government/police attention? Are we really that close to Nazi-style persecution in America? If the SPLC has its way, the answer seems to be a definite yes. I remind readers that in the book, Nazi Justiz: Law of the Holocaust (page 3), there were five steps to Hitler's plans for the destruction of European Jews. Step 1: Identification/registration of the targeted group as a public menace. Step 2: Ostracism of the targeted persons. Step 3: property confiscation. Step 4: Concentration of members into geographical locations. Step 5: Annihilation. In this latest report, SPLC seems quite willing to accomplish steps 1 and 2. The following was written in 2009, but applicable today. FBI's Robert Mueller recently stated that Domestic Terrorists are as big a threat as Al-Qaeda. [Hegelian-Dialectic/Bait-and-Switch Mission Accomplished]. FEMA is holding a Nuclear Drill next month [where "domestic terrorists" set off a nuclear device in America] and trying to cover it up. "Domestic Terrorists", i.e., patriots, Christians, tax protesters, Sovereign Citizens, white folk, etc. are being set-up to take the fall for the next false flag "terrorist" event, possibly coming soon to a city or town near you. The following sounds very plausible (IMO): "....prepare for the foreign troops to surface. But better to get them out in the open BEFORE they can perpetrate another FALSE FLAG!! That is coming, folks. You can see the build-up all over the news today. They are escalating the Alert Level from DHS in all public places. See the article below here: Anatomy of a False Flag and False Flag G-20 compilation of articles HERE......" "You know, the “endgame” was always to put us under UN/international/global government control, right? So looking at this document only confirms a belief we have that they may stage a “takedown” of the guy in the Oval Office so that Janet can step in and put us immediately under UN control. DHS was ALWAYS the initial Shadow Government created in the fear of 9/11 for this express purpose. They wanted us afraid so we would turn over our liberties in exchange for security. DHS came in (from UN roots) and began the process of coordinating the intelligence of ALL federal entities. Before DHS, the information was compartmentalized. Not ANYMORE. See the info on the new FUSION CENTERS. Fusion Centers are where our national information gets turned over to the international supercomputers for their control of our every thought, word and deed. But, poor Nancy. She won’t get to ascend the throne as she would have liked. Janet will be the next leader ahead of her. And the Czars will become the new ’cabinet’ members. America is gone. It is time for the 2nd Republic of America. Sign the Declaration of Independence Ver 2.0 HERE (PS – Don’t sign, just acknowledge to yourself.) ******* CHECK THIS OUT!!! ************** ......http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_pr...ary-of-Homeland-Security/ (Don’t visit here either, this is just confirmation of where the document came from.) So their goal is to take him out, blame it on “right-wing terrorists,” create “civil unrest” and a “national emergency” and turn us over to foreign troops flying the UN Flag (as seen during FEMA’s National Level Exercise in July)....... Officials See Rise in Militia Groups Across US, The Huffington Post, By Eileen Sullivan, Aug 12, 2009 WASHINGTON — Militia groups with gripes against the government are regrouping across the country and could grow rapidly, according to an organization that tracks such trends. The stress of a poor economy and a liberal administration led by a black president are among the causes for the recent rise, the report from the Southern Poverty Law Center says. Conspiracy theories about a secret Mexican plan to reclaim the Southwest are also growing amid the public debate about illegal immigration. Bart McEntire, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told SPLC researchers that this is the most growth he’s seen in more than a decade. “All it’s lacking is a spark,” McEntire said in the report. It’s reminiscent of what was seen in the 1990s – right-wing militias, people ideologically against paying taxes and so-called “sovereign citizens” are popping up in large numbers, according to the report to be released Wednesday. The SPLC is a nonprofit civil rights group that, among other activities, investigates hate groups....... Media Floats Talking Point that Gun Owners are Terrorists Paul Joseph Watson, Wed, Aug 12th “Southern Poverty Law Center report says growing militia movement portends domestic terror attack, despite the fact that the government itself was behind every domestic terror attack in the 1990’s.” The establishment media and the Southern Poverty Law Center are again floating the talking point that militia groups and worried gun owners are growing in the United States and that this could portend a violent act of domestic terror, despite the fact that every major domestic terror attack in the 1990’s was carried out by the federal government itself, from Ruby Ridge, to Waco, to the Oklahoma City bombing...... [hope i'm typing the link correctly...more at link]: freepeopleontheland.wordp...the-deal-2/g20-false-flag connects a lot of dots I ran across this while researching the upcoming FEMA NLE10 exercise ["domestic terrorists" exploding nuclear device in an American city (possibly in Nevada) in Mid-May: labvirus.wordpress.com/20...ce-in-falls-creek-nevada/ ]. Pastor Manning's trial of Obama is coming up then (why isn't HIS name on the list?)]. FEMA asked that their plan be taken down from the internet. Also see: Hitlery Clinton’s UN treaty to supercede the Second Amendment http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/slick-barrys-efforts-to-cancel-the-second-amendment/
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
This absurd list could have been cobbled together in 1995. If this is the level of intel the SPLC employs, I feel much, much better about our future. Congratulations John! You done good. You've been on their stinking lists for at least 20 years now and you're still cranking out the truth. It's time to support John and his efforts, folks.
If you want to make something irrelevant, laugh at it. Their list of, in effect, "and Ron Paul", pretty much "jumps the shark" for them.
What do you think of this list: "THE LABVIRUS.COM PSY0P WALL OF SHAME Please read the 25 Rules of Disinformation before proceeding. I decided to start this wall of shame to commemorate those who are engaged in either slanderous attacks against fellow researchers, or false accusations, or disinformation, or psychological warfare operations including mind control programming, fraudulent acts of any kind, murderous acts of genocide, malicious intent to harm others, cover-up of information and obstructing justice, other deceitful acts against the public-at-large, or any combination of the above. I will continue to edit this list as names come to mind or are submitted to me. They are in no particular order. ==================================== WELCOME TO THE LABVIRUS.COM PSYOP WALL OF SHAME! MEET THE INDUCTEES:......." labvirus.wordpress.com/psyop-wall-of-shame/ =========== I found this looking up info on General Stubblebine, who is one of the military who purportedly approached the Guardian Elders with the Grand Jury process to Restore The Republic [The RAP Plan, or TRAP as some call it.] I became concerned when I read that the RAP Plan was "proceeding as planned", and that the Elders were "running silent and deep". Knowing how the Illuminati telegraph coded messages through the media, I began to fear [and I know this is conspiracy theorizing of the highest order, but we ARE in the End Game, and I am throwing it out there for folks to be on guard, just in case] that the Elders were perhaps deep-sixed, or had become mind-controlled, or worst-case scenario, in it from the beginning [I truly hope the latter is not so, but they could have been "altered" www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=117150 . Stubblebine is apparently an expert in the field.] The following are articles I grabbed from a search engine regarding Albert Stubblebine [Men Who Stare At Goats] and "Sounds of Silence". Some may be duplicates, and some are not full URL's. My computer is full and acting up. I first read about this at educate-yourself.org , where there are at least 2 or 3 articles about this. Please acquaint yourselves with this. "Actionable Disinformation" Re: Rima Laibow, Albert Stubblebine ... Dec 23, 2008 ... Re: Rima Laibow, Albert Stubblebine, & **** Sounds of Silence. ... educate-yourself.org/lte/actionabledisinformation2... Are Gen. Stubblebine/Rima Laibow Disinfo Specialists? ****The Sound of Silence: The Antithesis of Freedom by A ... It would then make sense to employ General Stubblebine as a consultant. ... educate-yourself.org/cn/soundsofsilence11dec08.sht... informationliberation - Digital TV: Mind Control by the Sound of ... For instance, during the first Gulf war, the man who most likely ordered the deployment of the Sound of Silence was Major General Albert (Bert) Stubblebine, ... www.informationliberation.com/?id=26530 The Sound of Silence – The Antithesis of Freedom « Grand Delusion The Sound of Silence **** Digital TV - Mind Control By The Sound Of Silence Sounds of Silence and Mind Ops >> Four Winds 10 - fourwinds10.com ... www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/mind_contr...
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
They did that several names before they got to Ron. In fact I didn't see a name on that list of anyone I would be afraid of. Glenn Beck is the one name on the list of someone I have no trust in. But as for the rest of them, the ones I know a bit about anyway, I wouldn't mind sharing a beer with them. And I certainly would trust anyone on their list more than I would Dees and his outfit because I KNOW what scum they are.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. For a search engine that does not record, or reveal, your IP address try startpage.com - they also have a proxy service for even more (but slower) secure searching.
Thanks! I'll check that one out; I think the problem now is that I just have too much stuff on it [although not as much as I'd like :} my kids think I'm nuts to put so much stuff on my computer at one time.]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Why these guys have no had a libel suit filed against them recently, I don't know.
"Tuesday, April 20, 2010 DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office [link to canadafreepress.com] [typing: canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221 ] The certification of constitutional qualification for the office of president [see pics] DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds. What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it........" nesaranews keeps track of what's happening with RAP. They seem [except for possibly Casper, and a few shills, to be good folk just looking for answers and hope].
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
No need for "/s" - as your comment is so close to the truth as to be indistinguishable. The Bushbama "Brown Shirts" at Freeptard Rezpubik and Defective Underground stand as testimony to the truth in your comment.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds. What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it........" The solution is simple, as he is not legally eligible for the office no number of badly administered oaths can make it so. A simple court order vacating his installation followed by an arrest warrant for fraud, delivered by good stout Marshalls, and a frog march to the awaiting "Limo" is all that is needed. The real plus point is that every bill he has signed immediately becomes "not law" - including Obamacare.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
True, but not one in the judiciary seems to have the stones to issue the warrant.
I do believe congratulations are in order. To be placed at the top of the Southern Pimp Legalism Center's hate list is the mark of someone standing up for that which is right. A worthy and proud accomplishment. Kudos, and thank you for your service to God and Country.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
True, but not one in the judiciary seems to have the stones to issue the warrant. Not yet, but too many people are increasingly aware of the realities. Soon, there will be too many to continue ignoring them without threatening the continued viability of the FedGov. Like it or not the courts will be forced to act.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
What I can't understand is why Chuck Baldwin is at the top, and not someone like Tom Metzger, or some head of the latest fashionable White Supremacist Militia group.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
LOL! Lil'Dog made public enemy #7, an undeserved honor IMO. He's not retired from fishing. A Border Patrol friend of mine, said he saw him off of the Chanel Islands on a fishing boat recently.
This is a lengthy article from Pastor Baldwin, and perhaps some on this forum think that 30 or 40 folks on the SPLC's list aren't much cause for concern; however, far down in the article, the author says the following: This database of Americans who are perceived to be potential "enemies of the state" goes by the code name "Main Core." And according to the report, "One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick ('uniter' = G.W.)
and of course we're the Main Core....
I have obviously been a failure, since my name is not on the list. New Year's Resolution 2010: Get on the list for next year.
I don't know but someone should consider that, especially those on their lists who are not "public figures." Someone should sue and take everything Dees has.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Kudos, and thank you for your service to God and Country. Indeed. I would have been proud to make any mention on their list but Chuck did an outstanding job to be numero uno. Good on him.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Chuck apparently is much more dangerous (to liars like Dees and his sycophants and shills) than someone like Metzger.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ahahaha, I should have gotten his spot. But kudos to everyone who made the list I guess (except Glen Beck, I don't trust him).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He actually may be the most dangerous to the country of them all.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
I don't know why Baldwin would even make the list ... it's rigged or fixed. Beck doesn't belong on it either, he's pro government. EDIT: Beck MFs the truthers and birthers ... solid gold shill.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
You don't have a homepage on 4um. Are you physically located near the So.Cal border? What is your email addy?
"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14
I know I could be wrong about him but I don't think so. Not since he disses those of us who want to see Obama's actual birth certificate and don't believe he has a legitimate one, at least not one issued in any of the United States.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. What I meant was that most of the people on their (SPLC) list are pro- American, Beck acts pro-american but disses birthers and truthers. He's a gatekeeeper that keeps a lot of conservatives thinking there's a constitution, and the two party system is OK ... etc., ...
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
Spastic Psycho Leftist Communists like the SPLC run their demonization of Patriots maneuvers like clockwork everytime their "Democrat" masters have the reins of power. They are all Anarchists against our real government that is the Constitution and so are their "Republican" accomplices. That makes them all criminals chargeable with Treason. Resign. Also, every one of their invading hoarde that is out of uniform is chargeable as spies.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
you're not getting off that easy. you're in the Main Core. ;)
Anarchism often gets a bad rap~ Anarchy is any social relationship that involves neither dominance nor submission. It is the absence of social hierarchy, with no one imposing their will on another by force or threat of punishment. Anarchy means "without a ruler", or "without government". Government here is meant in the sense of "governing over" and forcing compliance through coercion. Such order is violent order. Anarchy, by contrast, is inherently cooperative- people relating to one another as equals."
do you think alex's credibility will be enhanced by his appearance on this list?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
i mean, alex has got a problem with his abiotic oil, chemtrail and rothschild theories... he's gonna need some help to get into political position high enough to do any good... maybe he's reached his peter principle limit, though, in this media job... what do you think?
I can see Lil'Dogs former position on the border (Patriot Point) from my window here in Campo, CA. It's empty except for the flagpole, and a memorial that we put up for a minuteman who died while watching the border. I'm the one who came up with the name Patriot Point. Before that it had been known as Buzzards Point. ridgerrrunner@yahoo.nospam.com (Take out the ".nospam") ~ridgerunner
Oh, I agree with you about Beck. Being a hard-core "birther" and "truther" (as if there is something wrong with wanting to know the truth and to see an actual birth certificate rather than a Photoshop pos short form that proves nothing other than what a bunch of liars and crooks Obummer has surrounded himself with). I don't trust Beck because if he were a real journalist, or even knew any, he would not have bought into the establishment's lies on those issues.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I would enjoy popping by to meet you at Campos, CA. I want to shake you down to observe your work. I emailed your website. No one answered me.
"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14
I don't have a website, just email if that's what you mean. Check your email now, I sent a reply.
Anarchy is any social relationship that involves neither dominance nor submission. It is the absence of social hierarchy, with no one imposing their will on another by force or threat of punishment. Anarchy means "without a ruler", or "without government". Government here is meant in the sense of "governing over" and forcing compliance through coercion. Such order is violent order. Anarchy, by contrast, is inherently cooperative- people relating to one another as equals." Like it or not, we do have a government here and it is the Constitution -- not the outlaw Anarchists and company trying to sabotage it as if it has no power over them and America is theirs for the taking. America is the private property of Constitutionalists and only Constitutionalists -- all of it. What would you suggest we do? Cooperate with their takeover assaults and wait until they are of a mind to willfully stop their coercions, vandalization of our system and our land, etc.?
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Exactly, which makes this list seem phony BS.
Exactly.
Any pundit that pretends to "know it all" that doesn't argue in opposition to the FED RESERVE or the STATE OF ISRAEL is a shill.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
As are, I suspect, quite a few of us on this forum.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
to those who now rule us, the constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper. it no longer is the limit on government nor of, for, and by the people. i'm not advocating anarchy, but honestly, if i had my choice between anarchism as defined in my previous post, i'd choose it over what we have now.
doesnt seem like anarchy is possible, given the variety of human nature... there's always gonna be people like alex jones, who are consumed with a drive to power over other people, and there will always be people who'd just as soon not bother with being a bigwig, and would rather live and let live.
and the "live and let live" people always wait until it's too goddamned late, and then they have to abandon their anarchy and organize to defend themselves from the egomaniacs. the anarchist cream rises and turns to scum... it happens every time, and that's why we keep making these feeble little attempts to write laws to ensure justice for all.
Southern Poverty Law Center: Liars Ca$hing in By: Devvy www.devvy.com/new_site/splc_041910.html I saw this referenced in a comment to an article at republicbroadcasting entitled: Proposed Bill Seeks Punishment for Unauthorized Militia (KTUL) Legislation proposed by state Rep. Mike Shelton would increase the penalty for individuals involved in unauthorized militias or similar domestic-terror groups. “There has been a great deal of attention given to increasing the penalties for those involved in gang activity, and while I agree that gangs are terrorizing many communities, they are not the only such threat in our state,” said Shelton, D-Oklahoma City. “In Oklahoma we have seen the damage done by militia fanatics and the Ku Klux Klan has a long history of violence and domestic terrorism. Involvement in those types of organizations should be treated no differently than participation in an urban gang.” Shelton plans to submit his legislation through amendments to Senate Bill 2018. Senate Bill 2018, which currently awaits a vote on the House floor, would increase the penalty for aiding or soliciting gang membership from one year in prison to five years in prison, and creates a new crime for gang-related offenses as a condition of membership, with the penalty being five years incarceration. Shelton’s amendments would extend those penalties to other groups, including, the Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and “any independent military organization that is neither recognized nor authorized by the Commander in Chief of the Militia for the State of Oklahoma.” The FBI recently arrested several members of the Michigan-based Hutaree militia, alleging the group was plotting to kill police officers. And several members of the Ku Klux Klan have been charged in the November 2008 shooting death of Cynthia Lynch of Tulsa (who had the mental capabilities of a child). It is believed that Klansmen recruited Lynch online and killed her when she told them she wanted to leave the initiation ritual. “Recent news reports have graphically illustrated the threat posed by domestic terror groups like the Klan,” Shelton said. “Sadly, these groups are very much alive and active in Oklahoma. In fact, officials say Klan recruitment has grown faster in Oklahoma than any other state in the country. It is time they faced greater penalties for their activities.” Senate Bill 2018 and Shelton’s amendment could receive a floor vote this week. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
The following are articles I grabbed from a search engine regarding Albert Stubblebine [Men Who Stare At Goats] and "Sounds of Silence". Some may be duplicates, and some are not full URL's. My computer is full and acting up. I first read about this at educate-yourself.org , where there are at least 2 or 3 articles about this. Please acquaint yourselves with this. "Actionable Disinformation" Re: Rima Laibow, Albert Stubblebine ... Dec 23, 2008 ... Re: Rima Laibow, Albert Stubblebine, & **** Sounds of Silence. ... educate-yourself.org/lte/actionabledisinformation2... ============== note to self. feel foolish for posting "conspiracy theories" regarding RAP....however, a link at republicbroadcasting had a link today to A. True Ott, The Story Behind the Story. A. True Ott wrote "The Sound of Silence - The Antithesis of Freedom": ON AIR NOW THE STORY BEHIND THE STORY [ republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=5 ] CALL-IN NUMBER: When I clicked on the link I got "Reuested page is not here!" [sic] Further, Tim Turner, one of the Guardian Elders of the Restore America Plan [RAP], was scheduled to be on radio last night and wasn't. Wednesday, April 21, 2010 TONIGHT WED AT 10:15 pm EST www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe...jsp?masterId=46256&cmd=tc coffeetime said... According to the live Talkshoe broadcast this evening, Tim was not going to be available. As well, they were not taking questions on The Restore America Plan. April 21, 2010 7:27 PM I have a little difficulty navigating those sites, so maybe I'm missing something, but if not, it all seems a little strange. I hope everything is ok. Tim Turner IS on the road a lot, and maybe it just didn't work out for him to be there last night for that reason alone. I hope.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
_________________________________________________________________________ The chattering class is getting nervous. "Bad Sheep! You don't want to hurt the nice Too many people are getting irate to the point of arming themselves and joining groups. Too many groups and there aren't enough "snitches" to watch them all - particularly when some of the snitches have "accidents". Notice also that any group does not worship the government or has out of the mainstream views are now (((((shudder)))) scary scary "terrorists".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#2. To: christine (#0)
I remind readers that in the book, Nazi Justiz: Law of the Holocaust (page 3), there were five steps to Hitler's plans for the destruction of European Jews. Step 1: Identification/registration of the targeted group as a public menace. Step 2: Ostracism of the targeted persons. Step 3: property confiscation. Step 4: Concentration of members into geographical locations. Step 5: Annihilation. In this latest report, SPLC seems quite willing to accomplish steps 1 and 2.
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
Ron Paul, Glen Beck, Norm Olsen (he hasn't been on the circuit in 20 years)....if this doesn't discredit this sad bunch, nothing will.
#4. To: christine (#0)
#5. To: Eric Stratton (#4)
For what exactly, who knows, making it all that more difficult to be prepared since to prepare for being on the go is quite different than preparing to dig in.
#6. To: christine (#5)
"Anarchy is any social relationship that involves neither dominance nor submission. It is the absence of social hierarchy, with no one imposing their will on another by force or threat of punishment. Anarchy means "without a ruler", or "without government". Government here is meant in the sense of "governing over" and forcing compliance through coercion. Such order is violent order. Anarchy, by contrast, is inherently cooperative- people relating to one another as equals."
#7. To: christine (#5)
#8. To: christine (#5)
#9. To: christine (#0)
The SPLC is one of the most ultra-liberal organizations in the country and should be dismissed as a group of paranoid leftists, not worthy of thought or mention.
Lord Acton
#10. To: christine, all (#0)
COONTACT!
More COONTACT!die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#11. To: christine (#0)
2. Joe Banister, former IRS special agent, tax protester.
3. Martin "Red" Beckman, tax protester
4. Catherine Bleish, head of the Liberty Restoration Project.
5. Chris Broughton, Second Amendment advocate, member of "We The People" group.
6. Bob Campbell, head of American Grand Jury.
7. Robert Crooks, Army veteran, retired commercial fisherman, anti-illegal immigration proponent.
8. Joseph Farah, CEO of World Net Daily
9. Gary Franchi, producer of "Camp FEMA: American Lockdown," national director of RestoreTheRepublic.com.
10. Al Garza, head of the Patriot's Coalition, an anti-illegal immigration group.
11. Ted Gunderson, retired FBI agent.
12. John Hassey, "The public face of Alabama's militia movement in the late 1990s," says SPLC.
13. Alex Jones, Radio Talk Show host.
14. Devvy Kidd, "prolific columnist, blogger, and public speaker."
15. Larry Kilgore, telecommunications consultant, former US Senate candidate from Texas, pro-secession advocate.
16. Cliff Kincaid, syndicated columnist and author, editor of AIM Report (Accuracy in Media's publication), founder and president of America's Survival, Inc., a UN watchdog group.
17. Mark Koernke, associated with the now-defunct Michigan Militia.
18. Richard Mack, former Graham County, Arizona, Sheriff, author, and public speaker.
19. Jack McLamb, former Phoenix, Arizona, police officer, author, and public speaker.
20. John McManus, former member of the US Marine Corps, president of the John Birch Society.
21. Daniel New, father of Michael New (the Army medic who refused to wear a UN uniform), author, public speaker.
22. Norm Olson, founder of the now-defunct Michigan Militia.
23. Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America.
24. Stewart Rhodes, Army veteran and Yale Law School graduate, founder of Oath Keepers.
25. Jon Roland, computer specialist, founder of the Constitution Society. 26. Luke Rudkowski, founder We Are Change.
27. Robert "Bob" Schultz, founder of We The People.
28. Joel Skousen, editor, World Affairs Brief.
29. Jim Stachowiak, Radio Talk Show host, "Longtime militia organizer," claims SPLC.
30. John Stadtmiller, founder, Republic Broadcasting Network.
31. Orly Taitz, California attorney, a leader in the push to make President Obama disclose his US birth certificate.
32. Amanda Teegarden, executive director of Oklahomans for Sovereignty and Free Enterprise.
33. Mike Vanderboegh, anti-Obama health care activist.
34. Paul Venable, former candidate for the Idaho House of Representatives.
35. Edwin Vieira, Jr., attorney, author, proponent of constitutional State militias, lecturer.
36. Michele Bachmann, US Representative from Minnesota.
37. Glenn Beck, Fox News Channel TV host.
38. Paul Broun, medical doctor, US Representative from Georgia.
39. Andrew Napolitano, attorney, former State judge in New Jersey, Fox News Channel legal analyist, lecturer.
40. Ron Paul, former member of the US Air Force, medical doctor, US Representative from Texas, 2008 Republican candidate for President.
Lord Acton
#12. To: noone222, Be afraid, be very afraid (#2)
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#13. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
Lord Acton
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
#16. To: christine (#0)
The SPLC ... sees itself as America's guardian against "right wing militias" ...
#17. To: Phant2000 (#16)
We need another Senator McCarthy who has his list of anti-constitutionalists, marxists, leninists and communists in an effort to level the playing field.
Lord Acton
#18. To: Phant2000 (#16)
#19. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#20. To: Cynicom (#18)
Dies received a telegram from the Ku Klux Klan
#21. To: SonOfLiberty (#19)
It makes me so sad that my work and advocacy go unrecognized. I had hoped so much to make the list this year. Well, there's always next year I guess.
Lord Acton
#22. To: James Deffenbach, 4 (#11)
#23. To: Lod, SonOfLiberty (#22)
Guessing that Aaron Zellman, founder of JPFO, is pissed that he's not on the list.
Lord Acton
#24. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#25. To: PaulCJ (#24)
Lord Acton
#26. To: Cynicom (#15)
Rest assured that the roster is well salted.
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
As in Kosher salt?
#28. To: christine (#0)
our federal government has chosen to exalt the SPLC to the position of being its "go to" source for information regarding "potential domestic terrorists" and similar characterizations. As a result, the information and reports disseminated by SPLC wind up in police reports and bulletins all over the United States. As an example, the SPLC had its fingerprints all over the infamous MIAC report. One could even question whether the SPLC is merely a front organization for Big Brother.
#29. To: Cynicom, John Stadtmiller, all (#27)
#30. To: James Deffenbach (#25)
#31. To: Phant2000 (#16)
(Edited)
We need another Senator McCarthy who has his list of anti-constitutionalists, marxists, leninists and communists in an effort to level the playing field.
AKA
SWINDLER’S LIST
Stubblebine as a consultant. Of course, what would then stop BDM from marketing and selling the Sound of Silence to large corporations tied ... forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=73408.0
Feb 5, 2010 ... The Sound of Silence is a military-intelligence code word for certain .... the Sound of Silence was Major General Albert (Bert) Stubblebine, ... granddelusion.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/the-sound-o...
Dec 11, 2008 ... Sound of Silence was Major General Albert (Bert) Stubblebine, who was the Commanding. General of the U.S. Army's INTELLIGENCE SCHOOL AND ... gators911truth.org/PDF/mind-control-tv.PDF
By The Sound Of Silence From Ken Adachi Educate Yourself.com 12-22-8 www.rense.com/general84/edvv.htm
#32. To: PaulCJ (#30)
Their list of, in effect, "and Ron Paul", pretty much "jumps the shark" for them.
Lord Acton
#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, 4 (#28)
#34. To: Lod (#33)
#35. To: James Deffenbach (#32)
#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#31)
"You know, the “endgame” was always to put us under UN/international/global government control, right? So looking at this document only confirms a belief we have that they may stage a “takedown” of the guy in the Oval Office so that Janet can step in and put us immediately under UN control. DHS was ALWAYS the initial Shadow Government created in the fear of 9/11 for this express purpose.
By JB Williams Tuesday, April 20, 2010
#37. To: Eric Stratton (#4)
Yes, yes we are. We are that close, we've actually lived a bunch of it already in trial balloon fashion under Hitl..., I mean Junior. With the full support of people that weren't like Germans that supported Hitler in '30 Germany too it can be added. /s
#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#36)
DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office By JB Williams Tuesday, April 20, 2010
#39. To: Original_Intent (#38)
The solution is simple, as he is not legally eligible for the office no number of badly administered oaths can make it so. A simple court order vacating his installation followed by an arrest warrant for fraud, delivered by good stout Marshalls, and a frog march to the awaiting "Limo" is all that is needed.
#40. To: Pastor Chuck Baldwin, christine (#0)
(Edited)
Here are the 40 names that are targeted in the SPLC report (and guess who is listed at the very top? Yours truly)
#41. To: PaulCJ (#39)
The solution is simple, as he is not legally eligible for the office no number of badly administered oaths can make it so. A simple court order vacating his installation followed by an arrest warrant for fraud, delivered by good stout Marshalls, and a frog march to the awaiting "Limo" is all that is needed.
#42. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#43. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
7. Robert Crooks, Army veteran, retired commercial fisherman, anti-illegal immigration proponent.
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#44. To: christine (#0)
#45. To: Bub (#44)
#46. To: christine (#0)
#47. To: PaulCJ (#35)
Why these guys have no had a libel suit filed against them recently, I don't know.
Lord Acton
#48. To: Original_Intent (#40)
I do believe congratulations are in order. To be placed at the top of the Southern Pimp Legalism Center's hate list is the mark of someone standing up for that which is right. A worthy and proud accomplishment.
Lord Acton
#49. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#42)
What I can't understand is why Chuck Baldwin is at the top, and not someone like Tom Metzger, or some head of the latest fashionable White Supremacist Militia group.
Lord Acton
#50. To: hondo68 (#43)
LOL! Lil'Dog made public enemy #7, an undeserved honor IMO. He's not retired from fishing. A Border Patrol friend of mine, said he saw him off of the Chanel Islands on a fishing boat recently.
Lord Acton
#51. To: James Deffenbach (#50)
(except Glen Beck, I don't trust him).
#52. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#42)
(Edited)
What I can't understand is why Chuck Baldwin is at the top, and not someone like Tom Metzger,
#53. To: hondo68 (#43)
#54. To: noone222 (#51)
He actually may be the most dangerous to the country of them all.
Lord Acton
#55. To: James Deffenbach (#54)
#56. To: christine (#0)
In a report on its web site dated April 2010, entitled "Meet The Patriots," the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) profiled "36 individuals at the heart of the resurgent [patriot] movement." (In reading the list, I counted only 35 "patriots" and 5 "enablers" for a total of 40. I'm not really sure how the SPLC came up with "36." Perhaps their ability to count is commensurate with their ability to appreciate patriotism and liberty.)
#57. To: echo5sierra (#46)
#58. To: GreyLmist (#56)
#59. To: christine (#57)
(Edited)
you're in the Main Core. ;)
#60. To: Original_Intent (#37)
#61. To: christine (#57)
(Edited)
#62. To: buckeroo (#53)
Are you physically located near the So.Cal border?
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#63. To: noone222 (#55)
What I meant was that most of the people on their (SPLC) list are pro- American, Beck acts pro-american but disses birthers and truthers. He's a gatekeeeper that keeps a lot of conservatives thinking there's a constitution, and the two party system is OK ... etc., ...
Lord Acton
#64. To: hondo68 (#62)
#65. To: buckeroo (#64)
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#66. To: christine (#58)
Anarchism often gets a bad rap~
#67. To: noone222 (#52)
Beck doesn't belong on it either, he's pro government.
#68. To: James Deffenbach (#47)
I don't know but someone should consider that, especially those on their lists who are not "public figures." Someone should sue and take everything Dees has.
#69. To: James Deffenbach (#63)
I don't trust Beck because if he were a real journalist, or even knew any, he would not have bought into the establishment's lies on those issues.
#70. To: christine, echo5sierra (#57)
you're not getting off that easy. you're in the Main Core. ;)
#71. To: GreyLmist (#66)
(Edited)
#72. To: christine (#71)
i'm not advocating anarchy, but honestly, if i had my choice between ararchism as defined in my previous post, i'd choose it over what we have now.
#73. To: christine (#71)
#74. To: christine, Original_Intent, all (#0)
Devvy Kidd strikes back....
April 19, 2010
April 21, 2010
#75. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#31)
I found this looking up info on General Stubblebine, who is one of the military who purportedly approached the Guardian Elders with the Grand Jury process to Restore The Republic [The RAP Plan, or TRAP as some call it.] I became concerned when I read that the RAP Plan was "proceeding as planned", and that the Elders were "running silent and deep". Knowing how the Illuminati telegraph coded messages through the media, I began to fear [and I know this is conspiracy theorizing of the highest order, but we ARE in the End Game, and I am throwing it out there for folks to be on guard, just in case] that the Elders were perhaps deep-sixed, or had become mind-controlled, or worst-case scenario, in it from the beginning [I truly hope the latter is not so, but they could have been "altered" www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=117150 . Stubblebine is apparently an expert in the field.]
w/ Dr. A. True Ott
800-313-9443
Restore America Plan --- Tim Turner tonight at 10:15 pm
Go to Link on the left for Tim Turner Audio.
Posted by John MacHaffie at 3:46 PM ......
#76. To: christine (#0)
The SPLC can shove it bump
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#77. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine (#74)
“any independent military organization that is neither recognized nor authorized by the Commander in Chief of the Militia for the State of Oklahoma.”
crook politician now would you?"
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