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Title: Fox News hit piece against 9/11 truth and Jesse Ventura inadvertently reveals a shocking truth; WTC leaseholder was "on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building" Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11
Source: www.informationliberation.com
URL Source: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=30060
Published: Apr 23, 2010
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2010-04-23 14:46:33 by Mind_Virus
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Views: 997
Comments: 77

Fox News hit piece against 9/11 truth and Jesse Ventura inadvertently reveals a shocking truth; WTC leaseholder was "on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building" Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Paul Joseph Watson

A Fox News hit piece against Jesse Ventura and the 9/11 truth movement written by former Washington D.C. prosecutor Jeffrey Scott Shapiro inadvertently reveals a shocking truth, that World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein, who collected nearly $500 million dollars in insurance as a result of the collapse of Building 7, a 47-story structure that was not hit by a plane but collapsed within seven seconds on September 11, was on the phone to his insurance carrier attempting to convince them that the building should be brought down via controlled demolition.

Writing for Fox News, Jeffrey Scott Shapiro states, “I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.”

“Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building -- since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.”

In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties’ estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. This building’s collapse alone resulted in a payout of nearly $500 million, based on the contention that it was an unforeseen accidental event.

“A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the building's imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of this possible option. There was no secret. There was no conspiracy,” writes Shapiro.

However, obviously aware of how it would impact his insurance claim, Larry Silverstein has consistently denied that there was ever a plan to intentionally demolish Building 7.

In June 2005, Silverstein told New York Post journalist Sam Smith that his infamous “pull it” comment, which has been cited as proof that Silverstein planned to take down the building with explosives, “meant something else”.

In January 2006, Silverstein’s spokesperson Dara McQuillan told the U.S. State Department that the “pull it” comment meant to withdraw firefighters from the building (despite the fact that there were no firefighters inside WTC 7 as we shall later cover). There was no mention whatsoever of any plan to demolish the building before it fell.

Shapiro’s faux pas has unwittingly let the cat out of the bag on the fact that Silverstein was aggressively pushing for the building to be intentionally demolished, a claim that he has always vociferously denied, presumably to safeguard against putting in doubt the massive insurance payout he received on the basis that the collapse was accidental.

For over five years since the infamous PBS documentary was aired in which Silverstein states that the decision was made to “pull” the building, a construction term for controlled demolition, debunkers have attempted to perform all kinds of mental gymnastics in fudging the meaning behind the WTC leaseholder’s comments.

“I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, ‘We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse,” said Silverstein.

Debunkers attempted to claim that Silverstein meant to “pull” the firefighters from the building due to the danger the structure was in, and this explanation was also later claimed by Silverstein’s spokesman, however, both the FEMA report, the New York Times and even Popular Mechanics reported that there were no firefighting actions taken inside WTC 7.

Another clip from the same documentary clearly illustrates that the term “pull” is industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

“While I was talking with a fellow reporter and several NYPD officers, Building 7 suddenly collapsed, and before it hit the ground, not a single sound emanated from the tower area. There were no explosives; I would have heard them. In fact, I remember that in those few seconds, as the building sank to the ground that I was stunned by how quiet it was,” writes Shapiro in his Fox News hit piece.

Shapiro’s contention that the 47-story building simply collapsed into its own footprint within seven seconds without making a sound, a feat only ever witnessed in world history on 9/11 alone, is contradicted by numerous other first-hand eyewitnesses.

Contradicting Shapiro’s claim that the collapse of the building was quiet, NYPD officer Craig Bartmer stated that he clearly heard bombs tear down Building 7 as he ran away from its collapse.

“I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn’t see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn’t hear any… I didn’t hear any creaking, or… I didn’t hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming ‘get away, get away, get away from it!’… It was at that moment… I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself… Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit’s hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you’re hearing “boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” I think I know an explosion when I hear it… Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they’re saying… Nothing to account for what we saw… I am shocked at the story we’ve heard about it to be quite honest,” said Bartmer.

EMT Indira Singh, a Senior Consultant for JP Morgan Chase in Information Technology and Risk Management, told the Pacifica show Guns and Butter, “After midday on 9/11 we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down. If you had been there, not being able to see very much just flames everywhere and smoke – it is entirely possible – I do believe that they brought Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it was unstable because of the collateral damage.”

The host asked Singh, “Did they actually use the word “brought down” and who was it that was telling you this?,” to which Singh responded, “The fire department. And they did use the words ‘we’re gonna have to bring it down’ and for us there observing the nature of the devastation it made total sense to us that this was indeed a possibility, given the subsequent controversy over it I don’t know.”

Another EMT named Mike who wished to remain anonymous wrote in a letter to the Loose Change film crew that emergency responders were told Building 7 was about to be “pulled” and that a 20 second radio countdown preceded its collapse.

“There were bright flashes up and down the sides of Building 7, you could see them through the windows…and it collapsed. We all knew it was intentionally pulled… they told us,” he stated.

Following news reports in the days after the attack that Building 7 had collapsed due to fire damage, Mike fully expected this mistake to be corrected after the chaos had subsided, but was astonished when it became part of the official story.

Mike’s report of a countdown preceding the collapse of WTC 7 was backed up by Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue, Kevin McPadden, who said that he heard the last few seconds of the countdown on a nearby police radio.

In addition, the language used by firefighters and others at ground zero shortly before the building fell strongly indicates that the building was deliberately demolished with explosives, and not that it fell unaided.

“It’s blowin’ boy.” … “Keep your eye on that building, it’ll be coming down soon.” … “The building is about to blow up, move it back.” … “Here we are walking back. There’s a building, about to blow up…”

Photo and video evidence of the collapse of Building 7 shows classic indications of a controlled demolition. The standard ‘crimp’ in the center-left top of the building and the subsequent ’squibs’ of smoke as it collapses clearly represent explosive demolition.

Veteran news anchor Dan Rather shared the view that the building looked like a controlled demolition during news coverage of the event on CBS.

Several news agencies, including the BBC and CNN, reported that the building had already collapsed 26 minutes and as much as over an hour before it actually fell.

Footage broadcast 20 minutes before Building 7 fell shows BBC reporter Jane Standley talking about the collapse of WTC 7 while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head. A Separate BBC broadcast shows reporters discussing the collapse of Building 7 26 minutes before it happened.

Just about every sentence of Shapiro’s hit piece is contradicted by numerous other eyewitnesses, so his feigned righteous indignation in ranting, “I was there. I know what happened, and there is no single credible piece of evidence that implicates the United States of America in the Sept. 11 attacks,” fails to ring true.

However, the most damning aspect of the article is Shapiro’s inadvertent revelation that Larry Silverstein was on the phone to his insurance company pushing for the building to be demolished, which is precisely what happened later in the day, and as innumerable eyewitnesses as well as video footage and physical evidence prove, the collapse of WTC 7 could have been nothing else than a controlled demolition, which would place Silverstein’s $500 million insurance payout in severe jeopardy if ever acknowledged.

Shapiro’s testimony, intended to debunk questions surrounding the official story behind 9/11, has only succeeded in raising more, because it completely contradicts Larry Silverstein’s insistence that he never considered deliberately demolishing WTC 7 with explosives.

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#20. To: farmfriend (#10)

IF it was brought down, and I believe it was, the explosives had to have been put in place prior to 9/11.

My exact sentiments.

"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

noone222  posted on  2010-04-23   18:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222, Farnfriend (#20)

IF it was brought down, and I believe it was, the explosives had to have been put in place prior to 9/11.

My exact sentiments.

Just goes to show you how evil the jew(s) are in this country and how they have no fear of prosecution. They have infiltrated our banks, Wall St., the courts, and politics and much more including the major media and television. They have done the same in every country throughout history. They are a plague and a curse on this nation.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-23   18:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222 (#20)

LOL ...

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   18:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: LACUMO (#21)

You are a total dumb shit... the issues of and about america are not about joos. It is because of lamer voters like you believing in one of the two fucking political parties that control Congress.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   18:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#23)

the issues of and about america are not about joos

You are right, buckeroo. We need to disabuse ourselves of these sloppy habits of thinking.

Whenever I'm faced with the latest political, moral, financial outrage, it's always Poles and Peruvians right there in the thick of things.

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-04-23   19:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#24)

Whenever I'm faced with the latest political, moral, financial outrage, it's always Poles and Peruvians right there in the thick of things.

Exactly. I think as TRUE and upstanding Americans, we dismiss the japs, chinks, wet-backs, the niggars beyond some of those muther-fucking celtic head hunters in Europe.

Let us stand HIGH beyond any remorse or grief offered. And if anyone stands in our way... kill 'em, by GOD.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   19:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#14)

Oddly enough an Israeli company was hired to work on the sprinkler systems in the twin towers, AND building 7 believe it or not. A google search will yield some interesting results.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-04-23   20:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#23)

You are a total dumb shit... the issues of and about america are not about joos. It is because of lamer voters like you believing in one of the two fucking political parties that control Congress.

I remember you on freak republic shilling your dumb ass off for Bush and now you are doing it for Obama. How in the hell did you go from one American traitor to the other? I guess the answer would be you are a certified one party liberal. I think you even supported billyjoejim bob clinton too. People with mental illness don't even realize what evil they are supporting. You happen to fit into that class of people.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-23   20:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: LACUMO (#27)

I remember you on freak republic shilling your dumb ass off for Bush

I never performed your suggested antics. You are a god danmed liar. So, go dig and back your fucking, god-damned lying shit up with fact.

I wager you wont come back, PUNK.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   20:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: RickyJ (#9)

I think another plane was suppose to hit WTC7 but for some reason it didn't.

WTC7 was only about 40 stories, half the height of the Towers and shorter than many of the buildings on the adjacent blocks. To hit it a plane would have to be in a kamikaze dive. Not possible, and nobody would have even considered it.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-04-23   20:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#19)

Thou Shalt Not Spam.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-23   21:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Shoonra (#29)

WTC7 was only about 40 stories.

It was 47 stories. No matter what you think about how it came down, the BBC report that it already collapsed while it was still standing behind the reporter is enough to know that it was a controlled demolition. The press release went out too early for some reason. Maybe done deliberately so people would know the truth.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-04-23   21:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#28)

I remember you on freak republic shilling your dumb ass off for Bush and now Obama.

I think I'll call you Buckerjoo from now on bug wit. I guess I struck a nerve! You can deny all you want but you're a switch hitter when it comes to politics and probably your sexual orientation as well.

Later Buckerjoo!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-23   21:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: wudidiz (#30)

Ya got a few stomach cramps, pal, about me..... telling the TRUTH? No? What is going in your life beyond NOTHING?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   21:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: LACUMO (#32)

Later Buck

A true fan, thank you so much.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   21:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#33)

Ya got a few stomach cramps, pal, about me..... telling the TRUTH?

I didn't read your post. It was too long.

You don't think it was controlled demolition?

Do you think 9/11 was an inside job?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-23   21:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: RickyJ (#9) (Edited)

I think another plane was suppose to hit WTC7 but for some reason it didn't.

I think building 7 was supposed to be taken down during the south tower collapse and was to be blamed on being hit with debris from the south tower.

However, when the dust settled, building 7 was still standing, and someone said, "Oh fuck!".

That's when they decided to let it burn while they fixed the rigging, and blame it on fire, which has worked, so far. How dumb is America? lmao!


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
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Critter  posted on  2010-04-23   21:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wudidiz (#35)

Do you think 9/11 was an inside job?

Nope. It was based upon the US government allowing illegal aliens into the USA. Perhaps that is an inside job; but to me, it is because of US government dereliction of duty to the American People.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   21:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#37)

Nope.

So who planted the explosives?


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
Hair Extensions Five Towns Merrick Manhasset Roslyn Massapequa Amityville Wantagh Farmingdale East Meadow Long Island, NY

Critter  posted on  2010-04-23   21:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Critter (#38)

The US Government.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   22:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckerjoo (#34)

A true fan, thank you so much.

You got it nimrod!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-23   22:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: LACUMO (#40)

I just luv ya LACKofbrains. Keep hitting the thread... you do me honours.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   22:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckerjoo (#41)

I just luv ya LACKofbrains. Keep hitting the thread...

Keep hitting the thread! Ya mean like you kept voting for a candidate in our one party, buckerjoo?

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-23   22:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo, Critter (#39)

The US Government.

You're not making much sense.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-04-23   22:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: LACUMO (#42)

I gave up on the Rs & Ds before you and I met on FR in 1999. I have always welcomed third party candidates to change the nature of American government.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   22:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: wudidiz (#43)

You're not making much sense.

And yet you said you don't have time to read my earlier post. Aren't you digressing a bit based upon your own posts?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   22:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#44)

I gave up on the Rs & Ds before you and I met on FR in 1999. I have always welcomed third party candidates to change the nature of American government.

Now this shows a little intelligence. You attacked me for no reason when I posted to noone222 and Farmfriend with my reply 21. That reply wasn't even to you but you had to throw on your vile two cents worth and attacked me for no reason whatsoever.

If you apologize to me and promise not to attack me ever again, we can be friends. It looks like you could use some friends on here because you have such an abrassive manner. The choice is yours!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-04-23   23:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TommyTheMadArtist, 4 (#26)

That, and they were also the security company for the airports.

Anyone who cannot connect these dots...

Lod  posted on  2010-04-23   23:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: LACUMO (#46)

If you apologize to me and promise not to attack me ever again, we can be friends.

Wanna go shooting for some ducks, sometime with me? You can stand out about 10 yards in front extolling how great you are.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-23   23:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo (#12)

But a government along with private industry can especially when the building represents a potential safety hazard to the publick.

It takes time to set the charges.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-04-24   0:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: farmfriend (#49)

How much time?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-24   0:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo (#50)

How much time?

More than they had on that one day.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-04-24   0:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: farmfriend (#51)

Are you saying that because GWBush was reading about "My Pet Goat" to a school classroom in Florida, it takes a lot of time for the CIA,FBI and the Delta Team to set some charges in New York City?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-24   1:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#52)

it takes a lot of time for the CIA,FBI and the Delta Team to set some charges in New York City?

Blow it up demolition? No. Precision, bring the building down in its footprint demolition? Yes.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-04-24   1:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: RickyJ (#31)

This website addresses most of your points.

www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Shoonra  posted on  2010-04-24   1:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: farmfriend (#53)

Why does it take so long? Because you think some of these government workers are on a donut break with a hot cup of Starbucks mucho Java?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-04-24   1:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: buckeroo (#55)

Why does it take so long? Because you think some of these government workers are on a donut break with a hot cup of Starbucks mucho Java?

You have to look at the building plans and figure out how to cut the structural supports in just the right way. The explosions have to be timed just right as well. A second off this way or that, supports not cut in the proper sequence and the building falls to one side or the other rather than straight down.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-04-24   2:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#37)

It was based upon the US government allowing illegal aliens into the USA.

So, precisely which illegal aliens flew planes into those buildings?

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-04-24   8:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Shoonra (#54) (Edited)

You would have to be dumb as a box of rocks to not know WTC7 was demolished after seeing it come down. There was so little damage to it compared to closer buildings which had more damage yet are still standing today. But even with extensive structural damage, which it didn't have, it would not have come down like that. WTC7 is the smoking gun of 9/11. Why do you think BBC announced it collapsed a full 20 minutes before it did?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-04-24   12:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

The entire collapse scenario of Building 7 was a faux pas which the PTB have been trying to cover and disinform on ever since.

To admit that Building 7 was intentionally "pulled" is to open the door to the eerie similarities in the collapse of WTC 1&2. From there it is a not a difficult leap to the conclusion that they too were "pulled" as part of the PsyOp.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-04-24   13:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: RickyJ (#58)

Madrid skyscraper fire, February. 2005

Building 7 fires, September, 2001

I see psyops everywhere.

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