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Title: PC Alert: Rev. Franklin Graham Banned by the Pentagon for Telling the Truth About Islam
Source: townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/Doug ... _telling_the_truth_about_islam
Published: Apr 25, 2010
Author: Doug Giles
Post Date: 2010-04-25 09:11:58 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 540
Comments: 57

PC Alert: Rev. Franklin Graham Banned by the Pentagon for Telling the Truth About Islam
Doug Giles
Saturday, April 24, 2010

Franklin Graham, distinguished Christian minister and son of an American evangelical treasure (i.e. Billy Graham) was banned from praying at the Pentagon for their upcoming May 6th National Day of Prayer event because he called Islam “evil.”

Apparently Franklin didn’t get the memo that we can’t say squat about Islam anymore. Oh, hell no. Muslims are groovy no matter what they do, and anyone who says otherwise … is … well … evil … in the eyes of the thought police who’re heading up the United States of Political Horse Smack.

Check it out: When Muslims kill 3,000 Americans, we can’t call them “wicked.” When they abuse women, cut off little girls’ clitorises, stone unruly wives, honor kill their teenage daughters for texting someone not named Achmed, and keep precious women in stone-age bondage worldwide, we can’t say that’s BS because that might offend them. And God forbid we should offend folks who’re six bubbles off level and don’t get basic women’s rights.

I’m scratching a bald spot on the back of my head on this one because we won’t put up with that bollocks with any other people or religion except with Islam; they get a free pass. Yes, we’re being whipped into believing that we’re misjudging them even though the preponderance of historical evidence indicates that those who believe they’re bogus are spot on.

I think it is legitimately safe to say—and extremely sad to say—that Political Correctness has officially seeped its fetid sewage into the brass inside the beltway.

Matter of fact, I’m wearing black today because I’m in mourning. As far as I’m concerned, it’s calamitous when the U.S. Army bans a solid Christian minister and upstanding citizen (who has added much to America’s Christian heritage and the well-being of millions of suffering people worldwide) from praying for our troops just because he called Muslim crap crap. You can read the full horror story here.

Lastly, I’d like to thank Franklin for having the holy testosterone—amidst the many craven and neutered capitulating clerics, pundits and politicians across our land—to call Islam’s actions wicked because … duh … they are. Good job, old chap. It seems as if only South Park, Robert Spencer, David Horowitz, a smattering of other analysts (mostly women) and Graham will come out and verbally hammer these cats for their “faith”-inspired atrocities against non-Muslims and their own women.

Oh, by the way: If you’re not convinced Islam is evil, check out this video.

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#24. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Islam was evil from the git-go; Christianity's been perverted.

Turtle  posted on  2010-04-25   14:32:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Turtle (#24)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-25   14:50:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Eric Stratton (#26) (Edited)

The message of Mohammed and Islam and the Koran is anti-social, psychotic, and oppressive.

More psychotic than the Inquisition and the Thirty Years War?

I'll take the Gospels over the Koran any day, but the even Gospels have not prevented the purported followers of Christ from perfecting mechanized slaughter of their fellow man on a mass scale. I'll bet you - and it would be an interesting exercise to prove it - Christians have killed more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians.

Look at the mayhem that Americans have unleashed Iraq. THAT'S psychotic. A "Christian" nation. Thanks a bunch.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-25   17:19:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Eric Stratton (#30)

Are you suggesting that those are consistent with the teachings and commandments of Christ?

NO.

I'm just suggesting that Christians went along with these things. Just like the German went along with Hitler and Americans followed Curious George into two bloody and unnecessary wars.

Where are the Christian voices? Few and far between.

It appears that Christ's teachings are not strong enough to keep men from acting like beasts - worse than beasts.

I should not continue this disquisition with you. I'm sorry for heaving the mud. I have my problems with Christianity, but I have to say that I believe that IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND A SCIENTIFIC DICTATORSHIP. I should shut my mouth and speak no more about it.

If I have offended Christians here in any way, I sincerely regret that. Accept my apologies.

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#37. To: Eric Stratton (#36) (Edited)

Where are the Christian voices? Few and far between.

What, the real christian voices or the faux christian voices? You still haven't distinguished.

As far as the war goes, I'll take any Christian voices, faux or real.

But I don't hear any.

That's ok. Our victims are just psychotic muslims. Drop bombs on them. Poke their eyes out. Break their children's bones. Burn them out of their homes.

Xtians, covering themselves with glory. It's a great tradition.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-26   9:32:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Eric Stratton (#38)

I realize that I am being harsh, but that is due in large part to the area of the country that I live in.

Fact is, the parts of the world where we wreak our most grievous destruction are places that are largely not Christian. (I'll have to except Clinton's wanton bombing of Orthodox Serbia here of course.)

All of this is fine with most Christian Americans that I know.

I will say one more provocative thing. In my extensive dealings with Muslims, I have found that a far, far greater percentage of them disavow terrorism practiced in the name of Islam than the proportion of God-fearing Americans that disown the institutionalized terror practiced by their own nation.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-26   12:12:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Eric Stratton (#47)

then slay the idolaters wherever you find them,

What does your book tell you about idolaters?

It doesn't tell you to treat them to movie and a dinner, does it?

Look, I really have no "agenda." I should have kept my stupid mouth shut. I give a damn about Islam. But I've worked with a lot of Muslims, and I'll admit that the one's I've worked with are mostly above average people. I've found them to be more tolerant bunch than a lot of Westerners that I deal with.

I have a sentimental attachment to Christianity that is daily worn thinner and thinner by seeing how the Anglo-American West puts the screws to the East and many self-righteous Christians chalk it up to some sort of just retribution upon the dumb brown followers of a medieval pedophile's prophesies.

Sorry if I seem to have put all Christians in a box, but that is how most of my countrymen treat Muslims.

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#52. To: Eric Stratton (#49)

But it makes it terminally difficult to have a serious conversation on the matter.

It is very much so, and I am almost sorry that I broached some of the topics here. It's not easy to talk about these things.

I'll tell you my agenda here. My agenda is about the many fine Muslim people that I've worked with over the years, none of whom had the slightest desire to slay me or even convert me. You have to ask why that is so in light of many of the injunctions from the Koran which you have published above.

The truth is that the vast majority of Muslims see many of the verses that you quote as directed at the followers of Mohammad who were in a state of war with the prevailing powers that be with whom his generation of disciples were at war. The brute logic of war dictates that one deals with one's enemies before one is dealt with, and the blood of Mohammad and his people would have soaked the ground if they had lost the battle. (What this fight was about is a long story that we can discuss some other time.) The Muslims that I've known, however, do not feel enjoined to kill or hurt others.

The truth is that most Muslims do not feel enjoined to kill or hurt others. The problem admittedly is that it is not difficult to preach a much more militant line from the very same verses in your post. From my point of view, that is the great fault in the Islamic religion. I have great regard, on the other hand, for the Gospels and for the pacifist teaching embodied in Matthew that you quoted in your post.

43 "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.' 44 "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Christianity, whatever its later history, was born in pacifism and peace. Islam in contrast was born in war. You may call it terrorism, but remember that one man's war is another man's terrorism. It necessarily became a war for survival once the proto-Muslims had staked out their moral and political position vis a vis the local lords that were running things at the time in Arabia.

Be that as it may be, I find the Christian ethic to be infinitely superior that of Islam, and it is precisely Matthew that I mean and which forms the outlook that I have on life. There is nothing within the covers of the Koran that can replace those words for me.

I should not have taken the trouble to write all this stuff to you if it weren't for those same lines from the New Testament. Whether intended or not, it is precisely the other rhetoric that I've seen here, like that of a "psychotic religion" and a religion of "terrorism and pedophilia" that gives Americans license to dehumanize the people of the East and trample across that chessboard over there as if it were our own property. This is the sort of talk that the neo-cons feed the plebs.

A young Iraqi guy said to me recently, "Things are pretty quiet where I live." (He lives in Kurdistan.) "But," he went on, "from time to time we here frightening stories." He was talking about the kicking in of doors, the rapes and the shootings carried out by our troops. They're the stories that make page 39 of the Sunday papers if we read about them at all here.

I believe that it will be generations before we are ever again held in high regard by folks in Iraq and by their neighbors. That is in large part so because we took upon ourselves to act like a horde of marauding bandits and not at all like the "Christians" we hold ourselves out to be.

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#55. To: Eric Stratton, randge (#53)

A most excellent way to end a discussion.

Good job.

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