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Title: Now Ohio being pressured into AZ-style immigrant law
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URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0427/oh ... essured-azstyle-immigrant-law/
Published: Apr 27, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-04-27 22:15:47 by Horse
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An Ohio sheriff known for taking extreme steps to crack down on undocumented immigrants and a Republican state representative are urging the state to pass an immigration law similar to the controversial one in Arizona. Butler County Sheriff Richard K. Jones and state House Rep. Courtney Combs have sent a letter to Ohio Governor Ted Strickland asking him to pass a law that "mirrors" the one in Arizona, reports WLWT channel 5 in Cincinnati. “Our federal government has failed us when it comes to securing the border and stopping the flow of thousands of illegals entering this country on a daily basis," WLWT quoted Rep. Jones as saying. "If the federal government won’t do it, it is time that states take that responsibility upon themselves." Arizona's law allows police to stop and question anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant, even if they don't suspect that person of any other wrongdoing. Critics say the bill will lead to racial profiling, and some commentators have even compared the measure to race-based laws in Nazi Germany. For Sheriff Jones, the push to allow police greater powers to combat illegal immigration may be partly personal. Last week, his office paid $100,000 to settle a lawsuit brought against Jones by a man who said he was unconstitutionally detained by deputies during a 2007 illegal immigrant raid on a construction site. According to the Hamilton, Ohio, Journal-News, Luis Rodriguez had been living in Ohio for 11 years when he was arrested by Jones' deputies, charged with providing false identification, and deported to Mexico. The charges against Rodriguez were later dropped. In a 2006 profile of Butler, Right Wing Watch described the sheriff as "running his own personal campaign against undocumented immigrants. ... He’s taken out newspaper ads, he put up six billboards in the area with his personage warning 'Hire an Illegal—Break the Law!' and he even started his own blog on the web site of the sheriff’s office to organize a boycott of businesses that hire undocumented immigrants." Rep. Combs, a Republican whose district includes the Cincinnati suburb of Hamilton, also has a track record of fighting undocumented immigrants. Last year he introduced a bill that would require employers to check the Social Security numbers of new employees to ensure they are in the US legally. "Combs said in May 2009 the bill [is] about giving jobs to Americans and taking away a paycheck from illegal immigrants during tough economic times," the Dayton Daily News reports. WLWT reports that Combs and Jones hope to travel to Arizona to meet with Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed the state's immigration bill into law last week. Since the Arizona law came into force, it has been criticized by commentators and politicians who believe it goes too far. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who was Arizona's governor until last year, has said her department will "review" the law. Mexican President Felipe Calderon has said the law will lead to racial discrimination and hate, and his government has issued a travel warning for Arizona. Even Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham has said he believes the law may be unconstitutional.
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#2. To: Jethro Tull, Horse (#1)
Let's hope these laws go viral!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
It's time to put the cards on the table. Either you have them, or you fold'em. And the mexicans have nothing in their hand.
judging from the fertility rate... you're right
Has anyone noticed the sheer number of outright lies about this bill? This quote is a lie. The law specifically forbids stopping anyone just to ascertain their legal status. Suspicion of illegality is not reasonable cause by itself. Yet, look at this article and so many others. The writers aren't just wrong. They're flat-out lying.
it's not that hard to figure out mexicans are so far down that, despite america's problems, america still looks like up to them, so they're optimistic and they breed. it takes a genius to figure that out. and it's too goddamned bad that mexicans have a historical claim to the the land, and it's way way way too goddamned bad that they could give a fuck less about what happens to israel, israeli america and israeli american efforts to vilify the catholic church, which just happens to be the church most of these people belong to. it's likely that mexican catholics understand perfectly well, thank you, that catholics are gonna be fucked over by the israeli american press as long as popes keep opening their fat yaps about the immorality of israel's and israeli america's wars.
to put it in the simplest, most personal terms, if i had it to do over again, i would have non-existent mexican american grandkids instead of non-existent pure anglo grandkids. is it too late for you to take a mexican concubine, lod? insurance for your semi-precious genes, dont you know...
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
...and one other little thing: whereas mexicans used to have a reputation as being lazy and slipshod, lately the ones moving up to the states have become ambitious, and work their asses off, which explains why big corporations value mexican labor. too goddamned bad that mexicans work circles around black and white americans, isnt it?
one other other little thing: do you spose it's a coincidence that the housing crash and this arizona law are happening now, at more-or-less the same time? now that the big housing construction outfits dont need the labor, it's a fine time to scapegoat mexicans. especially in view of the fact that, after five years of flat oil production, failing wars, and massive looting, it's not likely that the american economy will ever, ever, return to its former glory.
putting it simply again: without airconditioning and colorado river water, phoenix is dead. the river will be gobbled up by energy companies refining shale oil upstream in utah and colorado, and the power that comes from the river, natural gas and oil will be too expensive to use. phoenix is dead.
The use of the word "Pressured" is a negative. Rather than use that term, it should be titled, "The People Want REAL Immigration Reform, And An End To Open Border Treason." I hope Ohio does pass the damned law, and I hope every state in the nation follows suit.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
the problem with your theory is that the spaniards and indians intermarried with the mexicans. might be kinda hard to sort out who owns what. the spaniards should have shot all the indians and mexicans instead of fucking them... then everything would have been hunky dory.
i hear that the mexicans are planting typhoid-infested blankets at walmart stores.
"rightful" is kinda slippery, isnt it? if you exterminate people to claim the land, then you are operating on the theory that "might makes right"... so americans own america. ...and israelis own the land they've stolen from palestinians... seeing as how "stolen" is an invalid concept, because anyone who's mighty enough to take something is its rightful owner. once you bring jesus into the picture, it really, really, really gets fucked up, because jesus said, as far as i know, "thou shalt not steal." well, fuck a bunch of jesus. might makes right, and that's that.
U R A WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
i'm talking from experience in las vegas during the housing boom right after 9/11. United States housing bubble wikipedia
They can arrest them and put them to work picking crops without pay.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
slavery is a good deal, no doubt. you've been paying minimum wage, but now you get your stuff picked for free by people you own. helluva deal.
think of the revenue the federal government could generate by renting prisoners to corporate farmers.
If ICE refuses to take them, why not just bus them down to Nogales or other port of entry and push them across? Or they could build a one way turnstile on state park land. Where there's a will, there's a way.
illegals enhance corporate profits, and the corporations have seen the handwriting on the wall. the party's over, so the corporations will do what they can to loot, and anything else is irrelevant.
Otherwise, what's the point AZ is enacting legislation that will create SELF deportation. That's the point. The states with the largest number of illegals are the states that subsidize and create "sanctuary" for illegals........they are also the states that are broke and laying off thousands of teachers.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
It is only a short term solution. It is just a matter of time--the Mexicans have one and the USA will become just like Mexico. Whites don't even bread at replacement rates and every Mexican wants six kids. Already there are 50 million in the USA and in another twenty years, that 50 million will be 150 million even without more entering. However, by then they will be such a political force that it will be open borders and another 100 million Mexicans will pour in making them the dominate race in 30 years. Once they are the dominate race, they, assited by white liberal women, will vote the whites out of their homes, jobs, and money.
the USA will become worse than mexico, and so will mexico. in the meantime, we can shoot mexicans and blacks to our hearts' content, but we wont solve a thing, except that we will solve problems for the folks who are orchestrating this bullshit, who are in desperate need of scapegoats. and the underlying reason is that america is so fucked up that it cant kowtow to israel, compete with china, and make a rational adjustment to declining oil production all at the same time. the supposed zionists have probably come around, by now, to realizing it's a lost cause, so they have reverted to their default position, looting.
guns will solve every problem of human nature. it's been proven time and time again, and that's why we, after so much bloodshed, are in such a wonderful state now.
of course, i'm leavng out the psychology, arent i? maybe there comes a point when the dominant culture or race or whatever gets so fed up with the status quo that they'd just as soon blow everything up and be done with it. blowing things up is so much more fun than the tedium of telling each other the truth and talking your way to a rational solution... especially if you've got an infantile feminist philosophy underlying your postion.
fuck it. blow the motherfuckers up. and that's what people finally come down to.
it seems likely that females are probably much more susceptible to getting fed up with the situation than males... females, after all, have the responsibility. any person, male or female, that has an appreciation of the idiocy of sexual reproduction and its attendant competition, will get discouraged. given that jewish culture is matriarchal, why should we be surpised if israelis are suicidal? baby israeli and israeli american boys do what their mothers tell them to do, and apparently those mothers are fed up.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
That is probably true. A liberal is a nice well to do person that is seldom exposed to blacks and Mexicans. And so they believe that everyone deserves a fair chance and expect blacks and Mexicans to act and behave just like them. However, once they lose their high incomes and start living amoungst them, and find when they attempt to be nice and helpful, they get robbed blind, lied to, and taken advantage of time and time again, their attitude changes.
Not at all. The Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, 1848, was a peace treaty between Mexico and the United states which ended the Mexican-American War. The treaty was negotiated by Nicholas Trist. It was signed on February 2, 1848 in the small town of Guadalupe Hidalgo, near the City of Mexico. The treaty set the southern border of the United States (and Texas) at the Rio Grande River. The United States also received California, Nevada, Utah, and parts of Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming. The treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was ratified by the Senate on March 10, 1848. The Mexican Congress ratified on May 25, 1848. Below we present the complete text of the treaty. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
i was saying that it might have been kinda hard to sort out ownership because it was hard to tell who was spanish, who was mexican and who was indian after they'd been breeding with each other for a couple hundred years. once you figure in the traditional "might makes right", then mix it with the interbreeding, you got no idea who you're dealing with. would have been so much more straightforward if the spaniards had treated their natives like we treated ours, and exterminated them, dont you think?
We didn't exterminate them. Evidently, though, they did exterminate the first two groups of Euro-settlers at Roanoke.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Geronimo didn't have that problem, and the Apaches were running around New Mexico/Arizona/northen Mexico/West Texas throughout the 1800's after the Comanches exited the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and chased the Apaches off of the Staked Plains. Geronimo exterminated every mexicon that crossed his path.
_________________________________________________________________________ we fucked it up, boys and girls... and that's about all you can say. we've painted ourselves into a corner with our predatory behavior... that's just how we are: predators... and in the process, we've allowed ourselves to be sucked into a scheme that's given a free lunch to the most predatory faction of our predatory race. it was fun, for some of us, while it lasted, but there's gonna be hell to pay when the fiddler stops.
it was fun, for some of us, while it lasted, but there's gonna be hell to pay when the fiddler stops. So you like Leonard Cohen's "Closing Time" song. His predatory-sounding one that practically smacks of 9/11-type "vengeance" and Holocaustianity Thought Control emanating from his ethnic group's think-tank would have been a more germaine selection, imo, for your gloomy post. Goes like this: "First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin." I like Semisonic's "Closing Time" song more than his: And here's a stretch-limo of sorts so you don't have to drive yourself silly anymore under the influence of so much negativity: Brulé & AIRO "Concert for Reconciliation of the Cultures" held on July 13th and 14th 2007 at the Mt. Rushmore Ampitheater at the base of the monument in the Black Hills of South Dakota Brule & AIRO LIVE at Mt. Rushmore Part 1 of 2 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=j4D55YO6rSQ Brule & AIRO LIVE at Mt. Rushmore Part 2 of 2 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=4CigviyuSjE&feature=related
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Great news!!
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
#4. To: Lod (#3)
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the mexicans have nothing in their hand
#5. To: Horse (#0)
"Arizona's law allows police to stop and question anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant, even if they don't suspect that person of any other wrongdoing."
#6. To: Lod (#3)
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#8. To: Horse (#0)
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#12. To: groundresonance (#6)
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#14. To: wetlandjack (#12)
It was obviously STOLEN if you follow that logic
#15. To: wetlandjack (#12)
get the hell out of America
#16. To: groundresonance (#14)
#17. To: groundresonance (#15)
#18. To: wetlandjack (#16)
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rightful owner
#19. To: groundresonance (#9)
too goddamned bad that mexicans work circles around black and white americans, isnt it?
#20. To: Flintlock (#19)
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mexicans work circles around black and white americans
Out of 20 largest metropolitan areas tracked by the S&P/Case- Shiller house price index, six (Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit, Denver, Atlanta, and Charlotte) saw less than 10% price growth in inflation-adjusted terms in 2001–2006.[58] During the same period, seven metropolitan areas (Tampa, Miami, San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Washington DC) appreciated by more than 80%.
#21. To: Eric Stratton (#8)
#22. To: Horse (#21)
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put them to work picking crops without pay
#23. To: Horse (#21)
#24. To: Eric Stratton (#8)
Can AZ deport them?
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#25. To: hondo68 (#24)
bus them down to Nogales
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#8)
Can AZ deport them?
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#28. To: DWornock (#27)
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USA will become just like Mexico
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#35. To: groundresonance (#30)
maybe there comes a point when the dominant culture or race or whatever gets so fed up with the status quo that they'd just as soon blow everything up and be done with it.
#36. To: groundresonance (#14)
might be kinda hard to sort out who owns what.
#37. To: GreyLmist (#36)
#38. To: groundresonance (#37)
would have been so much more straightforward if the spaniards had treated their natives like we treated ours, and exterminated them, dont you think?
#39. To: groundresonance (#37)
i was saying that it might have been kinda hard to sort out ownership because it was hard to tell who was spanish, who was mexican and who was indian after they'd been breeding with each other for a couple hundred years.
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#40. To: All (#37)
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#41. To: groundresonance (#40)
we've painted ourselves into a corner with our predatory behavior... that's just how we are: predators... and in the process, we've allowed ourselves to be sucked into a scheme that's given a free lunch to the most predatory faction of our predatory race.
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